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Janic99

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Can't have him because he's fictional. :ph34r: *Runs away because I will get tomatoes thrown at me.*

YES T_T FOREVER ALONE 

*storyofmylife*

* fallsinlovewithavideogamecharacter *

* avideogamecharacterbreaksupwithme *

*foreveralone*


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Sorry, pretty random here, but can someone try to explain to me what the heck Mythal is holding in her mural?

 

Mythal-_the_Great_Protector.png

 

Are those elves? Snakes? A very strange peacock tail?



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Cullen is the hunkiest hunk in all of Thedas.  It was like romancing my Ken doll.  I was so happy. 

 

Solas is like Indiana Jones.  Even if it takes the shittiest reboot known to man - he will finally be with his Mary Ann Ravenwood and I will be vindicated for my years of waiting.

My Lavellan was the luckiest girl in Thedas to have caught the attention of both of them at the same time, bug or no <3

 

oh lol I've seen your vids XD

Sweet :D


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Sorry, pretty random here, but can someone try to explain to me what the heck Mythal is holding in her mural?

 

Mythal-_the_Great_Protector.png

 

Are those elves? Snakes? A very strange peacock tail?

 

Reminds me of Guan Yin and the vase with a plant that she always carries.

 

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Edit: Pic taken from this website: http://portalarcoiri...agrosadekwanyin

 

I can't read the language on the site.


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Sorry, pretty random here, but can someone try to explain to me what the heck Mythal is holding in her mural?

Mythal-_the_Great_Protector.png

Are those elves? Snakes? A very strange peacock tail?


Dunno,they always looked like elven babies to me.
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*Heart is ripped out*

 

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Yeah, it's my headcanon now.

Spoilers for Crystal White.

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Sorry, pretty random here, but can someone try to explain to me what the heck Mythal is holding in her mural?

 

Mythal-_the_Great_Protector.png

 

Are those elves? Snakes? A very strange peacock tail?

Her children.


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Sorry, pretty random here, but can someone try to explain to me what the heck Mythal is holding in her mural?
 
Mythal-_the_Great_Protector.png
 
Are those elves? Snakes? A very strange peacock tail?


They look like little baby elves wrapped in blankets to me. LOL

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Yeah, it's my headcanon now.

Spoilers for Crystal White.

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*Heart is ripped out*

 

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DON'T DO THIS T_T 

how many times you want me to cry T_T



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DON'T DO THIS T_T 

how many times you want me to cry T_T

 

I just replayed that scene about two dozens times to get the shots/vids...*is a sad broken thing now*


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The Qunari reminds me of the Romulans from Star Trek. Both races try to conform to a very strict way of being partly because if they don't, their emotions would get the better of them or something.

 

I am not a Trekkie, but I got this impression too, mostly from Iron Bull's dialogue about the Tal-Vashoth.  Especially playing as Adaar. Bull seems to imply that a switch flips in the Tal-Vashoth, and without the Qun most become animalistic beasts that could hardly be considered people.  He's cool with Adaar, but genuinely impressed and surprised that Adaar and his/her parents aren't like that.  

 

If you think about it, that's a very weird perspective to have.  People IRL change cultural identities and assimilate all the time, sometimes completely rejecting their parent cultures, and if one of them went the stereotypical way of the violent Tal-Vashoth, we'd chalk it up to that individual being crazy.  But Iron Bull talks about it like it's a systemic thing, like all Tal-Vashoth except a rare few will lose their essential humanity, for lack of a better way of putting it.

 



Reminds me of Guan Yin and the vase with a plant that she always carries.

 

I grew up on the janky but classic 80s version of Journey to the West, and I remember seeing her and thinking, I want to be that awesome and wise when I grow up.

 

Fast forward 20-odd years, and I am technically grown up but still not nearly that awesome  :lol:



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Sorry, pretty random here, but can someone try to explain to me what the heck Mythal is holding in her mural?

 

Mythal-_the_Great_Protector.png

 

Are those elves? Snakes? A very strange peacock tail?

 

Dammit now i'm going to have to think about this until i figure out some deep meaning.

 

 

In other news.

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You guys can switch characters to Solas and then ride your elk around pretending to be Prince Ashitaka with eyes unclouded by hate.


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I will never tire of this screenshot...

 

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Oh and I repost this for those who do not want to go pages back or have not seen this one..

I made a new fan video of DAI MEN (It was supposed to be funny and short) I hope you like it.. many on blackwall's thread and cullens + dorians liked it:

 

HNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGG.  :wub:  :wub:  :wub:


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The Qunari reminds me of the Romulans from Star Trek. Both races try to conform to a very strict way of being partly because if they don't, their emotions would get the better of them or something.

 

Mmmm like a bit of romulan a bit of klingon? Uuuuh I have very limited star trek knowledge.

Sorry, pretty random here, but can someone try to explain to me what the heck Mythal is holding in her mural?

 

Mythal-_the_Great_Protector.png

 

Are those elves? Snakes? A very strange peacock tail?

 

A bouquet of crystal grace or whatever that pretty flower that's in interesting places is called. But... you know it dooooooes look like creepy elfy babies.
 



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I...always thought they were lillies. But now that you mention it, they are babies. They have the same white-face as Ghilan'nain. So they are probably mortals. 



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Eugh every time someone suggests Mythal and Solas were lovers it makes me feel like Leliana when you ask if what she had with Divine Justinia was more than friendship (insinuating something romantic) and she totally rips you a new one.

 

Whoa, whoa!  Metaphorical lovers.   @w@  

 

Historical interpretation is wide open: you can keep their connection entirely ideological, if you want.  The Wife-Husband-Lover triad is only provably literal in the case of Flemeth's personal history, and only as a reflection that motivates her to willingly take in Mythal.  The writers carefully left everything else up to your individual Solas/Mythal head canon.



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Its actually Vulcans that constrain their emotions. The split between Romulans and Vulcans is mostly based on how they handle their emotions. Romulans are certainly a rigid society, but they don't tend to endorse the emotional suppression that the Vulcans do. They enjoy backstabbing far, far too much. Not sure if they can go into a Romulan rage like a Vulcan can. 

 

I should probably know that.


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Someone asked me what I think Solas' penis looks like on tumblr.

 

HAHA PPL THOUGHT I HAD NOT THOUGHT DEEPLY ON THIS BUT I HAD.

 

My friends call me the penis whisperer for a reason.


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Wait, what?  I'm still catching up, but I'm totally confused about where people are picking up on the Qun = eastern philosophy vibe.  It seems like a pretty direct and pointed mirror of Marxist socialism, doesn't it?  Or am I off here?

 

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need."   This is the absolute dead-center heart of the Qun, philosophically.  The individual's place in society is literally dictated by what she contributes to it.  They go so far with this concept that your role stands in for your "self"- it is what -and all- that you are within the Qun.  Individuals don't have names.  They have titles, descriptors of what they Do.

 

Also, "Every citizen will make his particular contribution to the activities of the community according to his capacity, his talent and his age; it is on this basis that his duties will be determined, in conformity with the distributive laws" sounds to me like a word-for-word description of Iron Bull's upbringing.  

 

No?  Am I missing something?  

 

As for his particular hatred of what it has become, well... that's pretty self-explanatory.  Pretty much every attempt at socialism or communism in history has twisted to fascism or authoritarianism in practice, and the Qun is clearly no exception.  Given what I think Solas' likely role was in trying to build the thing, I think there's an enormous degree of self-recrimination and personal disappointment in "human nature" when he talks about it.  

 

It was a system that he really, really hoped would work... but like so many others, it backfired horribly.  

 

In particular, I think the comparisons are coming from the quotes about suffering. That is probably the most direct comparison. Except, Buddhism at least doesn't teach that everything has an ideal "essence" or "form"-- that sounds more like Aristotle or Plato to me. So I'm not sure, if that is a misunderstanding about Buddhism, or if it was just inspired by something else.

 

Politically, it does have comparisons to Marxism, and I think that's probably intentional. Marx was influenced by German philosophers like Kant and Hegel, and French philosophers like Rousseau. Some people think some of Hegel's ideas have paralles with Buddhism, and there are Marxist influences in some sects of Buddhism for sure, just as there are Marxist influences in some segments of Christian thought as well.



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Whoa, whoa!  Metaphorical lovers.   @w@  

 

Historical interpretation is wide open: you can keep their connection entirely ideological, if you want.  The Wife-Husband-Lover triad is only provably literal in the case of Flemeth's personal history, and only as a reflection that motivates her to willingly take in Mythal.  The writers carefully left everything else up to your individual Solas/Mythal head canon.

I believe the OP meant,  it's like a really deep friendship.  You know how people were always like like 'HUR HUR FRODO AND SAME R GAY' because men can't possibly have very close and deep friendships*sarcasm*. That's the way it was for Justinia and Leliana.  It was probably the same for Solas and Mythal. But they could have also left that totally left it up to headcanon - though I doubt that. We'll probably get a clearer picture later. One of my best friends is a man - we're super close.  I would never dream of dating him. He's married and I've been with my partner for a decade.   We're just sympatico.  Peas in a pod.  Kindred spirits.



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What a dragon age inquisition DLC will be about.

 

I think one of the DLCs for Dragon Age Inquisition will be about the Grey Warden’s Calling and how to cure it with the aid of The Architect. This is foreshadowed in many ways in the game.

 

<snip DLC theory>

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Looks entirely plausible and awesome to me.  @w@  We need an in-game path toward understanding the Blight to have any hope of eventually fighting it, and that's a pretty direct route right there.  Bonus: potential collaboration with the Architect would be amaaazing. 


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Looks entirely plausible and awesome to me.  @w@  We need an in-game path toward understanding the Blight to have any hope of eventually fighting it, and that's a pretty direct route right there.  Bonus: potential collaboration with the Architect would be amaaazing. 

 

I have a crush on The Architect. 


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I am not a Trekkie, but I got this impression too, mostly from Iron Bull's dialogue about the Tal-Vashoth.  Especially playing as Adaar. Bull seems to imply that a switch flips in the Tal-Vashoth, and without the Qun most become animalistic beasts that could hardly be considered people.  He's cool with Adaar, but genuinely impressed and surprised that Adaar and his/her parents aren't like that.  

 

If you think about it, that's a very weird perspective to have.  People IRL change cultural identities and assimilate all the time, sometimes completely rejecting their parent cultures, and if one of them went the stereotypical way of the violent Tal-Vashoth, we'd chalk it up to that individual being crazy.  But Iron Bull talks about it like it's a systemic thing, like all Tal-Vashoth except a rare few will lose their essential humanity, for lack of a better way of putting it.

 

Iron Bull is also impressed because he's never met any Tal-Vashoth, or Vashoth that also weren't trying to kill everything that moved. His experience with them has been limited to Seheron and bandits. There seem to be very few Qunari operating in Ferelden or Orlais, especially after that Kirkwall thing, so he wouldn't have been exposed to Tal-Vashoth, or Vashoth who were reasonable people.

 

I take the Tal-Vashoth to be more like a mob invigorated by the newfound freedom. Mob thinking gets violent, impulsive, and emotional even when individuals are mostly rational and non-violent. These are people who have spent their whole lives being controlled psychologically and/or physically by the Qun. Qunari are pretty savage by nature, and suddenly throwing away all the Qun principles and being anarchists does nothing to hamper the barbarianism that seems to show up in Tal-Vashoth who try to kill and pillage just because they feel like it.

They are a bit like dragons in that sense. They are powerful and chaotic beings who refuse to submit to order (in any fashion) and act like animals, living solely on instinct because mom can't tell them what to do anymore.

 

I'm sure Tal-Vashoth who keep some semblance of Qun order are less rare than the Qunari propaganda lead others to believe. After all, it doesn't do them any favors to admit that the Qun is not the ideal, or perfect way of living.


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