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Plus, you know, a separate world close to the Fade where someone with enough power could cross over sounds like the perfect escape route for a demon.

You know, like the one she was listening to.

Audacity wasn't in the Crossroads though. He was in the statue.


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I feel like there are two general mindsets in DAI: "I believe in the Maker" and "I don't believe in any gods". And since my character believed in Dalish gods but not in the Maker, the game pretty much wrote her off as atheistic. <_<  

Might as well be one, you heathen.



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Please source art. If you can't find the source, it's probably best you don't share it. It does the artists a huge disservice.

 

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It's hard for me to respect the Dalish because talking to them is like shopping on Rodeo Drive with clothes from Old Navy on.

I want to see the clan Solas tried to help find out he is an Elven God.

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I wanna bang this man like a door in a hurricane.


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I saw a theory on tumblr I was really digging for the whole rebirth scenario, but I'm unsure If I can find it..

 

Here It is. It seems plausible enough, atleast to me. But we all have our own Headcanon/theories of course.

http://spectreoftheg...uture-isnt-real

 

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I know this has been discussed last night but I never can keep up with this thread. I just wanted to add a way in which this theory might be somewhat true without involving time travel (time travel is such a cop out in my book most of the time!)

 

So, Fen'Harel/Solas went to sleep at least a thousand years ago. when he finally wakes, he is faced with pretty much a nightmare. Everything he's known and loved and gone and the sacrifice he's done to try to make things better in the past has backfired spectacularly. Not only that, but when he tries to connect with this new world (trying to contact the Dalish), he's rejected. In this new world, he has no one alive, only spirits as company. I can see, in that state of mind, the world of the future not seeming "real" to him. It's easy then to plan on making changes without caring about how it'll affect people. It's quite easy to be very ideological when you have no personnal stakes in the matter.

 

But then, he meets the Inquisition. Whether he romances Lavellan or not, he still starts, slowly, to make friends. It's easy to see, I think, how aloof he is at first. He doesn't really want a relationship with anyone, as it would complicate his plans so much, but almost in spite of himself, he starts caring for people in the here and now. Much harder to pull off his grand plan now that the people of the future are starting to become quite "real" to him. I think this hits him in the grove, when he realizes he's about to tell Lavellan the truth. He's gone too far; if he doesn't pull back he'll never be able to be detached enough from present Thedas and its inhabitants to put his plan to execution. You can quite literally see his face fall when Lavellan tells him she loves him. As long as he was the only one who'd talked of his feelings, he felt...safer I think? But now, he needs to leave. He needs to put some distance so he can think clearly again. So, no need for time travel at all for Solas to feel alienated from the present. For him, he's quite the nightmare compared to what he used to know, and he's lost everything.

 

Finally, I have the feeling that the orb breaking pushes him to implement some kind of plan B. Seeking Flemeth/Mythal wasn't his first choice. I still wonder how he found her though. Or maybe she's the one who summoned him? Someone talked about how Flemythal might be manipulating even him into playing into her "reckoning". I wouldn't be surprised at all if that were the case. We'll see.

 

P.S. : Sorry if this has been discussed before. I'm still 15 pages late on the thread. I just didn't want to lose my train of thoughts.


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Merrill problem wasn't that she wanted to restore the eluvians, but the methods she used to get there. Blood magic, deals with demon? That never ends well. Not to mention that Inquisition reveals that her pursuit is utterly pointless, without an key, she will never activate her Eluvian.


Merrill used blood magic to cleanse the shard, but she brokered no bargain with Audacity, who was trapped in the real world and impotent.

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Not sure if everyone has seen this already. I just found this fanart of younger Solas recently and I wanted to share it because he's just so hot here , I nearly died on the spot. (and still dying XD)
 
 
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Finally, I have the feeling that the orb breaking pushes him to implement some kind of plan B. Seeking Flemeth/Mythal wasn't his first choice. I still wonder how he found her though. Or maybe she's the one who summoned him? Someone talked about how Flemythal might be manipulating even him into playing into her "reckoning". I wouldn't be surprised at all if that were the case. We'll see.

 

P.S. : Sorry if this has been discussed before. I'm still 15 pages late on the thread. I just didn't want to lose my train of thoughts.

I think hunting down Mythal was always the plan, as the developer notes from the ending suggest that she had always been waiting for him to come claim her power.



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Not sure if everyone has seen this already. I just found this fanart of younger Solas recently and I wanted to share it because he's just so hot here , I nearly died on the spot. (and still dying XD)
 
 
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Yup, I wanna bang him. Like now.



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I feel like there are two general mindsets in DAI: "I believe in the Maker" and "I don't believe in any gods". And since my character believed in Dalish gods but not in the Maker, the game pretty much wrote her off as atheistic. <_<


The same is true if Cadash tells Josephine she believes in the Stone; the narrative never explores it, and this makes no sense to me. I think it hinders Inquisition to put so much emphasis on the Andrastian perspective, particularly when you have multiple racial options.

I also don't see why we couldn't explore positive representations of the Dalish at the forefront of the story, while Minaeve, Sera, and the merc Dalish bombard us with so much negativity about the Dalish. Inquisition felt very one-sided.
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Ugh! I really need to get my hands on TME one day. I need to know more about Fen'Harel, eluvians and the elves. And I'm fascinated with this Felassan character that people keep mentioning (I've spoilered myself a bit so I know his fate in the book). Plus, I hear that Briala is a lot better in TME?

 

I know I could just read it all up on a wiki but reading the book myself is so much better I feel.

 

Sorry about that, I'm just having a having a hard time trying to look for the book here at my local stores (they're always unavailable). I might have to resort to ordering them online. :(



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Ugh! I really need to get my hands on TME one day. I need to more about Fen'Harel, eluvians and the elves. And I'm fascinated with this Felassan character that people keep mentioning (I've spoilered myself a bit so I know his fate in the book). Plus, I hear that Briala is a lot better in TME?

 

I know I could just read it all up on a wiki but reading the book myself is so much better I feel.

 

Sorry about that, I'm just having a having a hard time trying to look for the book here at my local stores (they're always unavailable). I might have to resort to ordering them online. :(

I can't even imagine playing Hushed Whispers without having read TME.



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I can't even imagine playing Hushed Whispers without having read TME.

Lol, you mean Wicked Eyes?



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Ugh! I really need to get my hands on TME one day. I need to more about Fen'Harel, eluvians and the elves. And I'm fascinated with this Felassan character that people keep mentioning (I've spoilered myself a bit so I know his fate in the book). Plus, I hear that Briala is a lot better in TME?

I know I could just read it all up on a wiki but reading the book myself is so much better I feel.

Sorry about that, I'm just having a having a hard time trying to look for the book here at my local stores (they're always unavailable). I might have to resort to ordering them online. :(


You get insight into Briala's losses and motivations, and what she gave up when she decided to fight for her people. You never understand the depth of her character or who she really is without TME.

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You know, there is something that I had been wondering about. Solas gives his orb to Corypheus apparently because his slumber made him too squishy to be able to activate it. But my question is, why he wanted to use the orb at all? As far as we know, this artifact only pourpose is to open rifts in the veil. Why Solas wanted to open rifts in the fade?

It probably can do more than that. It holds an immense amount of his power. He's essentially a shadow of what he once was without it.  It's a focus - so he would probably channel it to do whatever he needed to do.   



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I'm watching a video of the Flemeth Kieran Morrigan scene in the Fade.

Still one of the best scenes. Chills everytime. And a giant nerd-grin.

"I'm sorry mother. I heard her Calling to me."

So Kieran has the soul of an Old God, and Flemethyal can call to him through the Fade/Eluvian?

That's...interesting.

 

Definitely.  It makes sense in terms of Creation magic, though, and how Song seems to tie in to everything.   Mythal is a source of the Old Song.  (Half of it, at least.  Either dragon's blood -the Sun's or the Earth's- would be.)  The call of their combined Song can be kind of... blocked by the Song of the Stone (lyrium).   Not countered, just redirected, in a way.  Lyrium is "harmonic" with the mortal races, because its essential source is the same: one part from each Old Dragon.  Very different from the Sundered Song of red lyrium.  

 

Uh... I don't think I'm explaning well.  The thing that Templars are trying to reach for, that hole that lyrium fills, is a connection to the Earth, to the Fade.  Mythal.  Lyrium is like a slightly "newer" substitute.  Methadone to crack is not a great comparison, but is the basic idea, at least.  A substitute that has very close to the same effect, but isn't the "real thing".  

 

Does that... make sense?


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Just a boring note(probably been noted already: it's in the wiki and the World of Thedas):

 

There's a city called Solas in Tevinter Imperium! I'm totally going there. (starts packing)

 

The linguistic tie-in has got to be intentional on the a part of the writers, right?  owo   I mean, my latin is rusty as hell, but Dorian would probably find “Sol solus in solio sedet” somewhat amusing in terms of the big picture.

 

"Only one Sun can sit on the throne."   The true Sun, the false Sun, or Solas.  

 

*throws down $10 on the wolf*


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Lol, you mean Wicked Eyes?

Yeah.

I was thinking about names of quests and "Hushed Whispers" just seemed appropriate for court intrigue.



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You get insight into Briala's losses and motivations, and what she gave up when she decided to fight for her people. You never understand the depth of her character or who she really is without TME.

 

Yes, reading TME would have given me much better insight on the characters, especially Briala. *le sigh* :(

 

I was surprised to find many book characters in DA:I. I've only read The Stolen Throne and The Calling so I feel like I'm missing out on a lot of backstory. xD



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The Wicked quest is like a game of chess I can never win no matter how well I think I played.

It never goes the way I want.

This time I might say **** the elves (as I play my first elf) and have Celene murdered and put Gaspard on the throne.

I like him much better.

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Hello! I've been lurking around for a few days now (creepy, right?) but I've noticed how welcoming and interesting everyone is and couldn't resist for long. This is one of my first posts on the BSN in years, but I've caught the Solas bug. And I suppose you all know where that leads: here and desolate sobbing, always desolate sobbing. In any case, I just wanted to pop in officially. You may see me around a bit more after all. I hope to have something of value to add to these wonderful discussions on Solas.


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It's frustrating that the Inquisitor knows only the surface level of what Briala, Celene, and Gaspard's motivations are. There's just so much more going on there.

 

I played the Halamshiral mission before reading the book, and throughout the whole ordeal they all seemed nothing more than players of The Game trying to one-up each other. To me, it looked like Briala was just some scorned elven lover who wanted to take advantage of the situation. Had my Lavellan known what transpired between the three, gotten to know Briala better, what she was fighting for... Eisyrill would have likely have supported Briala, in part or in full.


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Hello! I've been lurking around for a few days now (creepy, right?) but I've noticed how welcoming and interesting everyone is and couldn't resist for long. This is one of my first posts on the BSN in years, but I've caught the Solas bug. And I suppose you all know where that leads: here and desolate sobbing, always desolate sobbing. In any case, I just wanted to pop in officially. You may see me around a bit more after all. I hope to have something of value to add to these wonderful discussions on Solas.


This is perhaps the best place in the public forums on BSN. It's very welcoming. Everyone is respectful and considerate, even when they disagree.
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Hello! I've been lurking around for a few days now (creepy, right?) but I've noticed how welcoming and interesting everyone is and couldn't resist for long. This is one of my first posts on the BSN in years, but I've caught the Solas bug. And I suppose you all know where that leads: here and desolate sobbing, always desolate sobbing. In any case, I just wanted to pop in officially. You may see me around a bit more after all. I hope to have something of value to add to these wonderful discussions on Solas.

 

Welcome to the thread!

 

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