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[tsunamitigerdragon]

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[Sable Rhapsody]

I know, right?!

I tell myself: When there's a DLC where the hero cures the Calling, then maybe they just came for Alistair and they left the Wardens together, riding into the sunset or something. (Don't take that hope from me! It's the only thing that keeps me going T_T)

 

I know it's never going to happen because of the whole voiced/unvoiced protagonist thing and the possibility that s/he is dead, but I would love DLC where we get to play as the Hero of Ferelden.  On one hand, it's a beloved and familiar character.  On the other hand, it's been a decade.  My Amell's not the same person she was at the beginning of Origins; she's older, wiser, definitely a little crankier and more cynical.  It would be so much fun getting to RP that.

 

EDIT: Oh, and I want her to meet Cullen again, and for them to be friends.  I thought his comments on the mage Warden were really sweet, especially since I was SUPER creeped out by him back in Origins.

[k_drake]

I find it fascinating that Corypheus called the Qunari a mistake. A mistake is different than an experiment. Experiment says, hey, I want to see what happens when this and this come together. A test of a hypothesis.

A mistake means there was a desired result, a thing they wanted to create, and this was the failure. It was discarded and likely another experiment was done to push for what they DID want. What DID they want? 

Maybe whatever they wanted, they were intending to fill Skyhold with it?

Seriously, it drives me crazy how the game repeatedly and teasingly asks you, "But it's so HUGE.  What did they put in here?"  And I'm like, I don't know, I use all the storage space for liquor bottles.  Is the intended answer obvious?  Or is there something we're still missing?

[tsunamitigerdragon]

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[Wheels]

I know it's never going to happen because of the whole voiced/unvoiced protagonist thing and the possibility that s/he is dead, but I would love DLC where we get to play as the Hero of Ferelden.  On one hand, it's a beloved and familiar character.  On the other hand, it's been a decade.  My Amell's not the same person she was at the beginning of Origins; she's older, wiser, definitely a little crankier and more cynical.  It would be so much fun getting to RP that.

 

So much this. I wouldn't even care if they'd communicate in grunts or something equally silly 

It would be such a nice wrap-up for their story. People who don't want to play as the Hero again don't have to buy it, the rest finally gets solution. Either way I want to know what's going on in the west... = great opportunity to bring the warden in one last time! And as you said, they're older now. God would I love to play as my Tabris again...

 

Sorry, I'm just into that idea a little too much. I just want one of my PCs to be happy 

[madrar]

A mistake means there was a desired result, a thing they wanted to create, and this was the failure. It was discarded and likely another experiment was done to push for what they DID want. What DID they want? 

 

My guess?  Strong, obedient slaves with super-charged blood.  What they got was a face full of rebellion, made up of the incredibly strong-willed / strong-bodied slaves they'd just created.

 

*edited my first post!  Under these assumptions, the figures in the actual mural would have to be kossith- no Qunari as we know them until Tevinter starts tinkering.  Kossith still entirely possible as Ghil's babies, though. Which in itself suggests she'd have had to have been granted access to the original Sun before the song was Sundered, which is an really interesting timeline point: kossith coming before blight-slaves.

 

...Crap.  That makes a certain amount of sense.  Maybe the sundering was actually an accident.  It's entirely possible, if what Elgar'nan is going for is just stronger and more useful followers.  He's tinkering with the blood, hits a critical tipping point, and the sheer force of Will suddenly becomes cancerous.   hmm.  Going to have to think about this. 

[CapricornSun]

I know it's never going to happen because of the whole voiced/unvoiced protagonist thing and the possibility that s/he is dead, but I would love DLC where we get to play as the Hero of Ferelden.  On one hand, it's a beloved and familiar character.  On the other hand, it's been a decade.  My Amell's not the same person she was at the beginning of Origins; she's older, wiser, definitely a little crankier and more cynical.  It would be so much fun getting to RP that.

 

EDIT: Oh, and I want her to meet Cullen again, and for them to be friends.  I thought his comments on the mage Warden were really sweet, especially since I was SUPER creeped out by him back in Origins.

 

I'd love to play as my Warden again! But yes, I doubt that's ever going to happen. ;__;

 

Oh! And I'm curious, what does Cullen say about the female mage Warden, if you don't mind me asking? 

[Ajna]

Hrm... I had been planning to save Hawk this time but idk now... I hadn't thought about the fact that would mean Alistair would be there. Maybe if I think of it as Alistair is just going to be rejoining the HoF it'll be ok ><

 

Wouldn't it be lovely if his last words were "I'll see you soon my love"? Or something, sad, but also quite lovely...

[madrar]

DEFINITELY. To me it spells... Dwarven DLC where we get some badass Anvil/ smithing thing and Dagna will become the modern smithing god (EDIT: insert sarcasm - I do not literally MEAN that thing). Heck, remember that giant metal spirit-ripper thing that was a part of the anvil of the void and necessary to make golems? That thing was HUGE.

 

I just want to get Dagna and Sandal in the same room together.

 

He would blow her mind.

[Arlee]

Well... I don't see the duplicative thing. I think it could be either Fen'Harel or Ghilal'nain or June missing.

But I want to place Ghilal'nain in there because I think the Qunari or the Kissith were her.. baby, so to speak. Not literally, but her experiment. And the sea creatures in the Par Vollen relief sculptures/ wall paintings feel super Ghilal'nain. 

I find it fascinating that Corypheus called the Qunari a mistake. A mistake is different than an experiment. Experiment says, hey, I want to see what happens when this and this come together. A test of a hypothesis.

A mistake means there was a desired result, a thing they wanted to create, and this was the failure. It was discarded and likely another experiment was done to push for what they DID want. What DID they want? 

 

Or they could have made them on purpose and they could have turned out physically the way they intended, but something socially went wrong. Like they were too hardy and rebelled but were too strong for the Tevintors to outright beat them. Then they went off and started their own society and the two have been fighting ever since. In that sort of situation I could see Cory saying the Qunari were a mistake.

[LliiraAnna]

Well... I don't see the duplicative thing. I think it could be either Fen'Harel or Ghilal'nain or June missing.

But I want to place Ghilal'nain in there because I think the Qunari or the Kissith were her.. baby, so to speak. Not literally, but her experiment. And the sea creatures in the Par Vollen relief sculptures/ wall paintings feel super Ghilal'nain. 

I find it fascinating that Corypheus called the Qunari a mistake. A mistake is different than an experiment. Experiment says, hey, I want to see what happens when this and this come together. A test of a hypothesis.

A mistake means there was a desired result, a thing they wanted to create, and this was the failure. It was discarded and likely another experiment was done to push for what they DID want. What DID they want? 

Well, if the theory about qunari having dragon blood is true... and since "dragon blood is the blood of the world"... 

 

There gotta be something important about dragons and their blood. It'd make sense for someone to try and create a dragon-like race. Same qualities, only humanoid and able to carry out orders. But they still lacked something the real dragons had. Maybe it wasn't a question of blood as much as it was a question of spirit/soul. Qunari may have dragon blood within them, but their souls are still... whatever they were before? Humans, elves? So that left them pretty much useless, and they were abandoned? 

 

...that sounded way better in my head.

[tsunamitigerdragon]

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[Arlee]

Wouldn't it be lovely if his last words were "I'll see you soon my love"? Or something, sad, but also quite lovely...

 

That would be amazing... I'm totally going to be sad if he doesn't say something like that now! But you solved my problem because now I need to find out if he does say something

[Tielis]

I've never understood this rationale. Hawke is a human who knows nothing about elven culture, the Dalish, or the Eluvians, while Merrill is someone who painstakingly put the time into studying the lore on the Eluvians and extrapolating information from the shard. Hawke is ignorant about this, while Merrill is informed, but people act like Merrill should simply fall in line to rivalry Hawke.

 

If anything, TME and Inquisition only proved Merrill right about how beneficial the Eluvians would be for the Elvhen, particularly as it's an asset that Briala used to get her elven network up and running against one of the strongest empires in Thedas. And the Inquisitor has an Eluvian in Skyhold, a gateway to the Crossroads.

 

As much as I liked having Solas as a friend, I really miss having a pro-Dalish character in Inquisition. It felt too biased in favor of the Andrastian mindset in many places (particularly when so many characters speak negatively about the Dalish, while the only person in the inner circle who can speak positively about them is my character), while we get a plethora of positive dialogue from our advisers, companions, and even minor characters about the Chantry or the Andrastian faith. Cassandra even talks with Lavellan about following the Maker, even when he's explicitly stated he follows his own gods, and she says the same to Solas. I don't really understand why it's so one-sided, which made it quite lonely and frustrating as Inquisitor Lavellan.

 

Given all the negativity towards the Dalish and the lack of coverage for the elves (particularly in the Dales, which is supposed to be predominantly elven, and yet focuses on human characters over elven characters), it would be nice if Solas heralded some positive coverage for the elves for a change when he returns. I'm a little tired of the Andrastian human bias thus far.

 

Yes, I'm also extremely tired of it.  But the one thing that keeps me going is the idea that they are setting up Andrasteism for a huge fall.

 

I'm really looking forward to everything the Chantry believes come crashing down on their thuggish little heads.

[Rabbitonfire]

I don't know.. the HoF's story is complete. Their greatest achievement has been fulfilled. If you want to know more, their legacy lives through npcs.

[Avejajed]

Come on it is ridiculous to say that if I find the art on google and there is no source that I cannot even  share it. Even if you could not find my art because I am artist as well I mean the source I would not mind because I'd be happy if people would at least share it -.- 

Stop always complaining about the source if the art is amazing.

 

There should be no discussion or argument about this. You HAVE to source the art you post.  We all do.  It's to protect both you, us, and the artist.

 

ETA: This includes any and all fanart, edits or fan manipulations pulled from other threads on the BSN, like the Solas manipulation by R2 that was pulled from the Cullen thread last week.

[k_drake]

Truth. No matter how much anyone tries to argue with me that Hawke is happy because they're with their LI I just want to shake them.

Lose your home to the blight? Have one of your siblings killed while you try to flee? Become a refugee? Forced into indentured servitude to earn your family's ability to stay in Kirkwall? Having to live with your **** uncle who screwed your family over? Losing a sibling of yours to the taint, the only option to save them being to give them up to the Wardens - OR sent away to the circle? Your mom being murdered and patched up in some horrible Frankenstein experiment? Living through a qunari invasion you cannot stop because one of your team mates is/ was a selfish theif? Being betrayed by your friend/ LI as they commit an act of terrorism to suit their twisted form of justice? Your city torn to pieces in a fight you couldn't stop or prevent? No matter who you choose to support they succom to blood magic or psychotic obsession?

That's like... a clinical case of incurable PTSD. And a lesson in never trusting anyone. Ever.

Let's be honest, ALL of the DA protagonists would need years of therapy/sessions with a spirit of compassion to parse all the s*** they've endured.  The Inquisitor is arguably the least traumatized of the bunch, and s/he still had to witness the deaths of thousands of people/give up everything s/he has ever known to suddenly shoulder a huge burden (and the guilt that accompanies it) because of a fluke of fate.  

[HayleyDawn]

I always wanted to adopt multiple Nordic children but the house mods that I like don't have that many beds.

Also, dunmer rules you N'wah!

 

If this one doesn't suit your fancy, I've also got another one I need to finish that's been on a long hiatus. It's just outside.. *cycles through game cities in head*.. uh.. Kirkwall.. no, Stormwind, nope... Albion? no no... eh... WHITERUN. Yes. There. It's built into a cliff outside town. This time rather than an old English / Tudor style house, it looks more like an east coast, fisherman's cottage. Only mixed with a giant old, slightly run-down manor, because it's huge. I'll finish it sometime soon.

 

That is a gorgeous house! The furniture positioning is really creative.

 

I'm glad I'm not alone in my re-rollitis

 

Thank you. I should have taken the time to get better screenshots of it, but it's lovely, especially at night. I put lots of glowing firefly spawns outside in the courtyard. :3 I wish I could just take Solas over to Skyrim with me. Maybe I'll make a mod that turns Mjoll into Solas. Her repetitive story would sound much nicer coming out of Solas. *dreams*

[tsunamitigerdragon]

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[modernfan]

I've been thinking about the parallels between Varric's sad situation with Bianca & Lavellan's with Solas.  Varric just soldiers on despite getting his heart broken into a million pieces & channels his energy into writing great stories & helping his friends.  So when Solas walks away, Lavellan has a companion who truly understands what she is going through.  I see him as a huge inspiration to her to keep giving her best even if she can't have her heart's desire.

 

If we can't have a happy ending for Lavellan & Solas, I hope at least it will be possible for Varric at some point.  Dude totally deserves it.

[Sister Squish]

Catching up on all that happened last night and I'm also going to revisit the Freed are Slaves mosaic codex entry from a Tevinter-origin perspective. I really appreciate the holes in it people pointed out and I think a 7 Tevinter Magisters thing could totally fit as well. I'll just.. have to think about that.

I mean, the Qunari came from the north east, right? Further than Par Vollen north east? And wasn't that after the first blight? So if it were the 7 Tevinter Magisters, and these Qunari as slaves, I just.. I'm struggling to see how that lines up in time. If anyone has an answer, PLEASE tell me. I'd be super grateful.

 

According to WoT, year -395 was The First Blight, and Steel Age 6:30 was when the Qunari land in Par Vollen "from the sea" (the maps do not show any further North sadface). 

 

And my first guess regarding the "mistake" of the Kossith/Qunari was that breeding them with dragon blood would suggest expectations of superior magical abilities, for the same reasons magisters drank the stuff. They are not known for any significant superiority in that area, however?

 

Edit: Beaten

[zambixi]

I don't know.. the HoF's story is complete. Their greatest achievement has been fulfilled. If you want to know more, their legacy lives through npcs.

 

I'd have said that too, but now they're looking for a cure to the Calling. That's been on the edges of the Warden story as a whole for a while now, and I think it's something that Bioware wants to address. So why put a character they never want to bring back at the center of that?

 

I don't really want the HoF to come back, but I won't be surprised if they do.

 

 

Come on it is ridiculous to say that if I find the art on google and there is no source that I cannot even  share it. Even if you could not find my art because I am artist as well I mean the source I would not mind because I'd be happy if people would at least share it -.- 

Stop always complaining about the source if the art is amazing.

 

You need to source the art. If someone has enough time to find it on google in the first place, they have enough time to take the extra step and find out who it belongs to. Many artists have quit doing fanart because people spread and claim their art without credit. Just because you personally do not have a problem with citations does not mean that applies to everyone. I would be extremely put out if someone shared something I made without crediting me.

[tsunamitigerdragon]

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[Sable Rhapsody]

Oh! And I'm curious, what does Cullen say about the female mage Warden, if you don't mind me asking? 

 

[zambixi]

According to WoT, year -395 was The First Blight, and Steel Age 6:30 was when the Qunari land in Par Vollen "from the sea" (the maps do not show any further North sadface). 

 

And my first guess regarding the "mistake" of the Kossith/Qunari was that breeding them with dragon blood would suggest expectations of superior magical abilities, for the same reasons magisters drank the stuff. They are not known for any significant superiority in that area, however?

 

Edit: Beaten

 

Dragon blood is important all on its own though. The Therin (sp?) line is mingled with dragon blood and that's why the Ferelden kings are so important. As far as I'm aware, Maric, Cailan, and Alistair have no magical ability but their blood is supposedly special anyway.