My warden would be only mildly interested in the inquisition for the sake of how it effects her kingdom and her family.
She's entirely too focused on curing the calling so she and Alistair can have many babies before they both die.
This is really late to the conversation but whatever.
I've actually done a decent job with not getting my heart broken until now...
DAO: Romanced Alistair with my female mage elf. Made him king, became his mistress, did not make him marry Anora. I did make him have a God baby with Morrigan though, but we live happily ever after so it's ok. :-P (for now)
DA2: Romanced Anders and let him live, now they are in hiding but they are together. Happy ending (for now) since I killed poor Stroud in DAI.
ME1: Romanced Kaidan. So sweet..I feel in love with him too.
ME2. Romanced Thane since Kaidan was being a butt.
ME3: Thane died, I was sad...but I went back to my true love, Kaidan..and it's ok. WE WERE ON A BREAK!!
DA1: Well...Solas...we all know how that went...
I'm pretty sure Solas (or someone) says that the foci were used by elven gods not just one god, but then since he can't reveal at that point who he is I suppose he would be deliberately vague about it. Just been replaying the early conversation with him about what may have caused the explosion at the beginning and I must say in hindsight he is being a sly so and so. He suggests that it must have been some powerful magical item to have caused it and that we ought to look into it. When I say may be it was destroyed in the blast, he replies he will only believe that when he sees the pieces in his hands. Hmmm. Then after we have been confronted by Corypheus suddenly he knows exactly what caused the blast and claims it to be elven, even though Dorian later says to him that Tevinter also had such artifacts and since Cory was an ancient Magister, it could just as easily have been a Tevinter relic. So I was wondering, did he only suspect what caused the blast until Cory turned up or did he actually know it must have been his orb? You see, looking back on it, if he even slightly suspected that Cory had anything to do with it, he was not only an extremely good deceiver (only to be expected of the dread wolf) but he nearly got us all killed. (I am going through one of my depressive episodes when everything he did appears in a bad light).
I also wonder at the decisions over scripting when it comes to the eluvians. Now I realise that Michel was someone you didn't have to recruit or might even potentially kill so scripting something specific to him if you chose to assign him to talking to Solas about Briala's network might have been considered a bit of a waste. However, Morrigan is a given; you can't avoid her or her revelation about her eluvian. Now to my mind, unless you already mistrusted him/were bad terms with him, any Inquisitor, but particularly an elf, would immediately think of Solas and want to discuss the artefact and her theory about Corypheus with him. Yet I rush round to tell him and get nothing. Clearly they thought it would reveal too much about him or future plotlines but to my mind it just doesn't seem credible that it wouldn't be discussed.
Hmmm... I'm starting to get the sneaking suspicion Fen'Harel/Solas might not be a god in the way Mythal, Elgar'nan, Dirthamen and cie are. I have very few clues that tell me this, but there's a few evidence there:
- He has a foci. An artefact said to channel the power of a god. Why would a god need a foci to channel his own power? If it was to channel someone else's power though...
- He (as far as we can tell) went into uthenera the way ancient elves would. He was powerful enough not to need substance, but woke up so weak he couldn't use his own foci.
- On the other hand, Mythal even as a wisp is quite powerful. Powerful enough to transform her own human vessel into a dragon at will (no one else, apart from Morrigan if she drinks from th well, can do so).
- We have found temples to other gods across Thedas, and yet apart from that small shrine to Fen'Harel (which doesn't seem that old), there are no hint that Fen'Harel was ever worshipped. On the other hand, we have he wolf statues, the wolf serving as some sort of protector to the elf. That same statue is in the temple of another god, Mythal, which everyone finds strange.
Now, I might be tally wrong there, but here's what I think. Solas isn't a god. He never was (although he IS an ancient elvhen, and a quite powerful one at that). One of the themes of DA;I seem to be how history distorts the truth and will make demi-gods of ordinary people. The Herald is the perfect example of that. So, I think he didn't lie. He was born in that small village and spent his youth exploring the fade. Possibly, there he caught the eye of one of the deities (quite possibly Mythal), the same way Gilal'nain is said to have, and brought into the inner circle. I like the idea that he might have become the protector of the pantheon. In short, he wasn't that dissimilar to Abelas. He was given the foci to help him in his task. But at one point, something changed and from protector he became their betrayer. Maybe that was due to Mythal's murder or Andruil's madness or a combination of things. Then he went to sleep. History became blurred in time and he was remembered as a god himself while he never was.
Anyway, I might be totally wrong there, but I think it would fit.
Cousland Warden -
1. Quizzy and her would have gotten along - they are both rogues. Quizzy would have been like 'hey, want to build a bomb?' and Cousland would have been like 'sure.' They have similar senses of humors.
2. Solas - Somewhat. She would certainly respect him and he her, but she's very proud to be a Warden and his views would totally ****** her off. she would think he was being too flippant about it and she's been through too much to have someone just say they no longer serve a purpose. she would be happy to tell him about her trip to the fade though and would be somewhat happy to have someone understand what she was talking about.
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With all the Warden-talk around.
How well would your Warden and Quizzy get along? (Ignore question if you play self inserts
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And how would your Warden react to Solas or vice versa? (So the post is at least somewhat on topic!)
Lavellan should have met Surana a decade ago, all that idealism and good naturedness, they'd be like long lost siblings. Surana's gotten a lot rougher around the edges and more jaded than he used to be; Lavellan would have to earn his trust to get past the stoic and hard*** facade. But I think he would respect Lavellan, he has an idea of what it's like to be under that much pressure. Since Surana is an Arcane Warrior, and Lavellan is a Knight Enchanter, I imagine they would end up exchanging notes on that. If he learned that she had saved Alistair from the Fade and all that mess with the Wardens, Lavellan would definitely have his favor.
Lavellan would probably find Surana's personal beliefs strange ("You believe in the Creators *and* you believe I'm the Herald of Andraste? Did I hear that right?"), but she's getting used to strange. If she ever fought beside him, she might be really, really creeped out by him, but otherwise, she is unlikely to see or know anything about him that might bother her. She appreciates kind and honorable people, and he is, for the most part.
I think Surana would be a bit suspicious of a non-Dalish apostate who has never been inside a Circle and knows as much as Solas does. The last one he met like that was a Witch of the Wilds. He would probably prod him with all kinds of questions, the sort that might end up annoying Solas. Eventually, Solas might turn the tables on him and start asking *Surana* equally uncomfortable questions, like whether he noticed that Kieran has an odd resemblance to him, and how did he survive slaying an Archdemon anyway? I think Surana would generally find Solas interesting, while Solas might approve of Surana's particular brand of moral greyness.
That moment when you have written your first Lavellan/Solas fic and you realise it's kinda terrible.
Anyone else tried that? 
So I was wondering, did he only suspect what caused the blast until Cory turned up or did he actually know it must have been his orb?
He definitely knew it was his orb. He's the one who gave it to Corypheus. He was in the area [the tavern, specifically] before the explosion even happened. We don't know if Solas knew what was going on with the Divine and the blood rituals. But I think he probably had a good idea that something was happening and...he did nothing.
It was only when the orb exploded and his plans were shattered for a second time that he went about trying to stop Corypheus.
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Quick question, I'm trying to replay the endgame (Arbor Wilds onward) with a gamepad my beau let me borrow. I'm still getting used to the controls, but for the life of me I can't figure out how to do the "search" mechanic (the little sonar "bling-bling!" thing). For those playing on console or with a gamepad, which button do you press?
I used to be mad at Merrill for what seemed like betraying Mahariel and Tamlen's sacrifice, but I've forgiven her since she indeed was proven right. Even if we've now seen the consequences twice over (her clan and Virnehn) of what happens when you seek lore knowledge by binding a demon.I've never understood this rationale. Hawke is a human who knows nothing about elven culture, the Dalish, or the Eluvians, while Merrill is someone who painstakingly put the time into studying the lore on the Eluvians and extrapolating information from the shard. Hawke is ignorant about this, while Merrill is informed, but people act like Merrill should simply fall in line to rivalry Hawke.
If anything, TME and Inquisition only proved Merrill right about how beneficial the Eluvians would be for the Elvhen, particularly as it's an asset that Briala used to get her elven network up and running against one of the strongest empires in Thedas. And the Inquisitor has an Eluvian in Skyhold, a gateway to the Crossroads.
That's why it's kind of fun to see Solas turn a corner, a bit, when you talk about the vallaslin, and he tells you "don't say that" when you knock the Dalish. I can't fault DAI for its elven stuff, because we got so much of it. It's rough on the traditional Dalish outlook but that's for the sake of restoring a truer elvhen heritage.As much as I liked having Solas as a friend, I really miss having a pro-Dalish character in Inquisition. It felt too biased in favor of the Andrastian mindset in many places (particularly when so many characters speak negatively about the Dalish, while the only person in the inner circle who can speak positively about them is my character), while we get a plethora of positive dialogue from our advisers, companions, and even minor characters about the Chantry or the Andrastian faith. Cassandra even talks with Lavellan about following the Maker, even when he's explicitly stated he follows his own gods, and she says the same to Solas. I don't really understand why it's so one-sided, which made it quite lonely and frustrating as Inquisitor Lavellan.
Given all the negativity towards the Dalish and the lack of coverage for the elves (particularly in the Dales, which is supposed to be predominantly elven, and yet focuses on human characters over elven characters), it would be nice if Solas heralded some positive coverage for the elves for a change when he returns. I'm a little tired of the Andrastian human bias thus far.
Random thought, why would removing the valaslin be so speacil of a moment that it would warrent being your last memories of eachother? I get that it is a bombshell that they are slave markings and all but we know Lavallen is speacal to him. He could of done that before. Why where the veil is so thin you can feel it tingling on your skin? Makes me think removing the valaslin was more than just removing it. Maaaayyyybbbeee.....it was some kind of binding if you will?? Feedback from those wicked familar to the lore would be appreciated!
Quick question, I'm trying to replay the endgame (Arbor Wilds onward) with a gamepad my beau let me borrow. I'm still getting used to the controls, but for the life of me I can't figure out how to do the "search" mechanic (the little sonar "bling-bling!" thing). For those playing on console or with a gamepad, which button do you press?
At least on a PS3 controller, press down on the left stick.
Quick question, I'm trying to replay the endgame (Arbor Wilds onward) with a gamepad my beau let me borrow. I'm still getting used to the controls, but for the life of me I can't figure out how to do the "search" mechanic (the little sonar "bling-bling!" thing). For those playing on console or with a gamepad, which button do you press?
Left joystick push down
Random thought, why would removing the valaslin be so speacil of a moment that it would warrent being your last memories of eachother? I get that it is a bombshell that they are slave markings and all but we know Lavallen is speacal to him. He could of done that before. Why where the veil is so thin you can feel it tingling on your skin? Makes me think removing the valaslin was more than just removing it. Maaaayyyybbbeee.....it was some kind of binding if you will?? Feedback from those wicked familar to the lore would be appreciated!
The vallaslin actually has nothing to do with the 'special' nature of the scene. Initially, he was planning on telling her the truth about him. That was why he took her so far out, and to a place where the veil was thinner. At the last minute, he backs out, and tells her about the vallaslin instead. It wasn't his intention to even break up with her.
Random thought, why would removing the valaslin be so speacil of a moment that it would warrent being your last memories of eachother? I get that it is a bombshell that they are slave markings and all but we know Lavallen is speacal to him. He could of done that before. Why where the veil is so thin you can feel it tingling on your skin? Makes me think removing the valaslin was more than just removing it. Maaaayyyybbbeee.....it was some kind of binding if you will?? Feedback from those wicked familar to the lore would be appreciated!
I don't think so. Mages throughout the series have always been somewhat able to feel the veil. It's just part of being a mage. Solas is super sensitive to it though.
Solas would never bind anyone - look how he reacts with Cole and Cole ASKS him. He respects free will too much to bind anyone least of all the woman he loves. He removes the vallaslin because it's a last minute confession - he was going to tell Lavellan everything and just chickens out. it's an important truth though and he wants you to be free of your ignorance - even if you dont remove it - the knowledge itself is its own freedom. you can make your own decision knowing what it meant/what it means.
Random thought, why would removing the valaslin be so speacil of a moment that it would warrent being your last memories of eachother? I get that it is a bombshell that they are slave markings and all but we know Lavallen is speacal to him. He could of done that before. Why where the veil is so thin you can feel it tingling on your skin? Makes me think removing the valaslin was more than just removing it. Maaaayyyybbbeee.....it was some kind of binding if you will?? Feedback from those wicked familar to the lore would be appreciated!
Solas was planning on telling Lavellan the truth about everything. Then he lost his nerve and told her about the vallaslin instead.
Hmmm... I'm starting to get the sneaking suspicion Fen'Harel/Solas might not be a god in the way Mythal, Elgar'nan, Dirthamen and cie are. I have very few clues that tell me this, but there's a few evidence there:
*snip*
I had this idea. I imagined Fen'Harel as being an immortal elf who somehow managed to grow powerful enough to mingle with the gods, yet never truly joined their ranks. Hence his ability to be viewed as friend by both sides.
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He definitely knew it was his orb. He's the one who gave it to Corypheus. He was in the area [the tavern, specifically] before the explosion even happened. We don't know if Solas knew what was going on with the Divine and the blood rituals. But I think he probably had a good idea that something was happening and...he did nothing.
It was only when the orb exploded and his plans were shattered for a second time that he went about trying to stop Corypheus.
To be fair, I don't think he could stop him before then.
He was too weak to unlock the Orb... but Corypheus wasn't. I think that's a good indicator that Corypheus would win in a fight if Solas said, "Hey! That's not why I gave it to you. Give it back!" Not only that, but Solas was on his own without any friends or followers in the world, while Corypheus had acquired a legion of Venatori cultists and Grey Wardens at his disposal. (As we see in the Inquisitor's flashbacks.)
What would Solas have done to stop him? If he'd confronted Corypheus directly, he probably would have gotten killed, and then were would we be? He couldn't have exactly gained followers, because what could he say? "I'm an ancient elven god who just woke from my millennium-long slumber and gave my super-powered ancient elven artifact to an ancient blighted magister (one of the magisters that caused the Blight, mind you), and now I think he's going to do something devious with it. Can you help me get it back? ... Why are you pointing those weapons at me?"
Heck, for all we know, maybe he was in the process of doing something about it but the Inquisitor wandering in and disrupting the ritual put a damper on it.
I don't know. But since I don't know, I'd like to give Solas the benefit of the doubt. 
I had this idea. I imagined Fen'Harel as being an immortal elf who somehow managed to grow powerful enough to mingle with the gods, yet never truly joined their ranks. Hence his ability to be viewed as friend by both sides.
I'm starting to think the same thing. It would fit with the theme Inquisition pushes about how gods aren't really gods but are seen that way through the lense of history. Andraste, and now the Inquisitor are in the same boat.
I don't think so. Mages throughout the series have always been somewhat able to feel the veil. It's just part of being a mage. Solas is super sensitive to it though.
Solas would never bind anyone - look how he reacts with Cole and Cole ASKS him. He respects free will too much to bind anyone least of all the woman he loves. He removes the vallaslin because it's a last minute confession - he was going to tell Lavellan everything and just chickens out. it's an important truth though and he wants you to be free of your ignorance - even if you dont remove it - the knowledge itself is its own freedom. you can make your own decision knowing what it meant/what it means.
Well that is awesome to hear he was at least going to tell her and stay with her even though he didnt. I wasnt suggesting he bound her but unbound her, from what i dont know.
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I used to be mad at Merrill for what seemed like betraying Mahariel and Tamlen's sacrifice, but I've forgiven her since she indeed was proven right. Even if we've now seen the consequences twice over (her clan and Virnehn) of what happens when you seek lore knowledge by binding a demon.
Really? I felt she was honoring their sacrifice. Tamlen and Mahariel discovered an ancient elven artifact that could benefit their people (Tamlen specifically touched it out of reverence for it), and got tainted for it. The rest of the Dalish wanted to pretend like they never found the mirror and move on, but I got the impression that Merrill wanted to restore it partly because she wanted something good to come from their deaths. Mahariel and Tamlen died from touching the mirror no matter what; but sweeping the mirror under the rug and pretending they never found it makes the tragedy just a loss of two lives. Restoring the mirror and using it to benefit the People everywhere would make it so at least something positive came of their deaths. That's the impression I got of Merrill, mind.
With all the Warden-talk around.
How well would your Warden and Quizzy get along? (Ignore question if you play self inserts
And how would your Warden react to Solas or vice versa? (So the post is at least somewhat on topic!)
^^your use of vice versa is fine. 
My canon Warden is a human noble (Cousland), non-magical, rogue. Overall she's fair-minded and good-hearted, but she has a ambitious/ruthless streak and a sense of entitlement that comes from being born a noble and groomed to rule. She was pretty much willing to do anything it took (Hello, creepy Dark Ritual) so that she could be Queen. My Inquisitor is a little more idealistic, a little more willing to entertain immediate emotional/compassionate impulses. She views her circumstances as extraordinary, but not herself; as far as she's concerned, the whole thing is an accident. Sometimes it tickles her to think that all of this could have happened to literally anybody else, and the outcome would be the same (not everyone agrees with her on this point, but that's how she feels). Where my Warden sees herself as unique, Lavellan feels replaceable. I don't think my Warden would understand Quizzy's preoccupation with her people; in fact, by this point my Warden is probably a bit frustrated with Dalish standoffishness. I would imagine she's been trying to make overtures to the clans in Ferelden, with mixed results at best. Like many people who enjoy privilege, my Warden likes to think that if the mages/elves/other minority would just try harder, they could make things better for themselves. Whereas my Inquisitor views her loyalty to the Dalish as a way to preserve an essential part of her identity when everything else she knows has been stripped away, my Warden would view this as a counterproductive bit of selfish obstinacy. Of course, she would keep all this to herself; my Warden and Quizzy would get along well, and my Warden would frequently cite the Inquisitor as what the Dalish could be, if only they would come out of the forests long enough to try. Quizzy would like and even admire the Warden Queen, but she wouldn't find a kindred spirit in her; rather, she would relate to the Warden in the same way that many others relate to her as the Herald.
I don't think my Warden would like Solas. She would be a bit offended by his imperious nature and sanctimonious attitude (her words, not mine ). The treatment of the Grey Wardens would be a sore point between them, if they ever happened to discuss it. Neither of them would likely forgive the other for what was said during that argument, and subsequently a stiff politeness would characterize their interactions.
Alright so I just did the Emerald Knight's grave bit.. Can we talk about that? How the architecture and sculpture is just ALL FREAKING WRONG. I mean, not in a the art department made a mistake, but that there are clearly layers of history, pieces of sculpture from earlier periods placed in later periods, the further you go down the more ancient it becomes. Again, this might just be the 4 years of art history speaking, and my lifegoal as a kid was to be THE female Indiana Jones... but this whole place is weird. Like art history spidey sense weird.
The first thing that clued me off that **** was weird about this place is that in the first main chamber you've got these heads plastered on the walls. They don't suit what we recognize as either Elven, Tevinter, Dwarven, or Avvar.
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Other strange things about this place are: 5 Elven Mosaics of Gods: Two of June, One of Falon'Din, Two of Mythal. 1 Elven Mosaic I don't recognize as being in existence anywhere else:
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This mosaic reminds me of a representation of a solar eclipse for some reason. Could it have to do with the Elgar'nan/Sun legend?
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