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[Willow_Elessidil]

Who wants a midnight ride with Solas....

 

[HurricaneGinger]

I definitely think it is more than just the ancient gods sealed away. It would be kind of hard to tell all the gods, "Hey, come meet in this place. But totally, totally don't bring anyone else, right?" and not have it sound suspicious. 

 

Even more so if part of Arlathan is a trap. You can't really evacuate if you're trying to catch extremely powerful beings off guard. Which might be part of the reason why Solas is so guilt ridden. 

 

There may have been a ceremony they were traveling to, and Solas is like "GOTCHA" and shut down all the eluvians in that area.

 

 

omg baby i still love you come back T_T

[Sashimi_taco]

Who wants a midnight ride with Solas....

 

 

Yeah i'll take him for a ride

[Caddius]

Ferelden seems to me kind of like a cross between Viking and Celtic cultures, just going by their art and sculpture.

Anglo-Saxon England if they threw off the Norman yoke and retained some influences of the Normans. (Orlais has probably had an influence on fashion and 'gentrified' the nobility, but they're still Fereldans.)

Add in lots of Celtic myth (Calenhad and Arthur) and names and Irish and Scottish influences.

And the Anglo-Saxons were basically demoing a Viking Invasion of England for their northern cousins, in retrospect.   

Liz, so...dammit. Why do I feel so sure there were seven magisters? I must investigate!

[tsunamitigerdragon]

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[madrar]

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EDIT: Yeah, Solas's knowledge of Mhris is a red flag. Killing Felassan doesn't seem his style, though.

 

I'm not so sure about his "style", sometimes...  If he considered it a necessary death, as it might have been if using Felassan's body to get the passcode from Briala was as critical as it seemed to be, I don't think he'd hesitate for a second.  

 

Greater good and all.  Don't doubt that Solas is utterly ruthless when he sees no alternative.

[Caddius]

Also, @Caddius, the Freed Are Slaves mosaic had seven entities originally. As the second craftsman altered the original by carving away what was there, he put in a single Tevinter magister and his trophies (ie two individuals/ trophy slaves). So four entities in total flattened, three entities carved down to make way for the new narrative.

Hmm. *strokes beard thoughtfully*

To add to your ideas about hornlessness being a sign of being scary among Qunari, the old theory that was tossed around is that Ben-Hassrath Qunari sent to other lands probably freak people out less if they have horns. Cue the tamrassrans breeding Ben-Hassrath stock for hornlessness, along with Vanguards like Sten. All Public Relations.

The secret police having no horns has now led to them associating hornlessness with fear. *shrug*

That being said, the tamrassrans could also be doing that as a nod to the past.

Heh.

Qunari slaves had hornless masters, the elves had bare-faced masters...

And Madrar, what I meant by 'style' is Solas just cutting Felassan down. I figured if he decided he was going to execute Felassan, he'd give him a chance to give him as much knowledge as possible. I guess with him being Dirthamen, that wouldn't be an issue.

The way Felassan insisted he not even hear the passphrase does point fingers at Dirthamen, though.

http://dragonage.wik.../wiki/CorypheusWiki claims seven magisters. Checking their sources to see if we're both mad. 

[tsunamitigerdragon]

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[BlueElf2]

Who wants a midnight ride with Solas....
 

Elven glory! =P

[k_drake]

Better than the Wolf and the Halla. Wolves eat Halla. People tend to forget that.

 

Having a history in Elder Scrolls, you don't want to get killed by a unicorn.

Yeah, I'm not crazy about the imagery of Lavellan being a prey animal, all trembling and fragile.  I'd like to think Solas was attracted to her, not because of her exquisite vulnerability, but because of her fierceness and strength.  

[FiveThreeTen]

I wouldn't be surprised. The elven "gods" and their crowd of supporters locked away...and their slaves are left behind to fend for themselves?

 

...Oh god.

Argh I accidently send my post before forming a coherent sentence

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Here is my pretty simple theory:

Solas/Fen'Harel made a deal with Mythal to punish those they viewed as oppressors and imprisoned the Old Gods along with a good chunk of their followers.

Classic, so far.

 

But what I really wonder is Solas intent. Because tearing the Veil just for the sake of it is just not satisfying enough.

 

So one possibility is that  Solas awakened bc it was time to free them (they paid their debt to society).

I suspect they are all somniari and if they're in the Fade, functioning Eluvians is one way to gain access to them (like we go into the Fade chasing Morrigan).

And maybe if he fails to do it quickly they will all die/disappear into the Void/be corrupted by the Blight*/whatever. Hence his desperation and the use of the Orb.

 

TLDR: I think Solas basically created Arks into the Fade to preserve what could be preserved of the "sinners", or maybe even wanted them to be nurtured by their prolonged stay in the Fade (assuming they actually are in the Fade) into becoming better beings.

This crack theory would imply that it's not a good thing if the prisoners overdue their stay (they coud become corrupted for example).

 

So when he says to Flemythal that the people still need him, he is refering to those still trapped in "the Arks". A little too biblical but I have so much trouble trying to figure out what Solas wants precisely, I mean, except copping a feel with a Lavellan Quizzy

[Caddius]

Someone mentioned that number yesterday as well and I can't for the life of me imagine where they got it other than 7 old gods must mean 7 magisters. But if what the Draconis constellation codex entry says is true, there could be as many as eight of we go by 1 magister/ old god. I am just unsure if that is necessary.

Can someone check the World of Thedas Volume one, pp.27. 155? That's what the wiki lists as a citation on the Golden City. I'd like some clarification. 

[DrTeatime]

Yeah, I'm not crazy about the imagery of Lavellan being a prey animal, all trembling and fragile.  I'd like to think Solas was attracted to her, not because of her exquisite vulnerability, but because of her fierceness and strength.  

If my Lavellan had to be an animal she'd be a wyvern, 'cus she's lethal if you let your guard down for even a second.

That would make them The Wyvern & The Wolf, and I do love the alliteration on that.

[madrar]

The white curved lines coming from its head may mean horns... probably if they had made them into real horns it would be too obvious.

 

Possibly.  I took it as partially obscured "sun" iconography.  Also, the more I look at this, the more I think it fits the time frame of Ancient Arlathan.  The overall effect and technique - delicate patterns within seemingly solid color -  is somewhat similar to Solas' Skyhold frescoes.  

 

It's also worth pointing out that it's painted on a rock face, while the "cave paintings" we've seen are on the sides of structures that would have been concurrent with Halamshiral, not Arlathan.   Post-rebellion.   Perhaps strongly hinting at the reason Mythal switched sides from Elgar'nan to Fen'Harel.  Faced with his use of blight as a method of ensuring Order, she could no longer ignore what he'd become.  

[Caddius]

If my Lavellan had to be an animal she'd be a wyvern, 'cus she's lethal if you let your guard down for even a second.

That would make them The Wyvern & The Wolf, and I do love the alliteration on that.

Anyone ever seen that one episode of Supernatural?

Unicorns will straight up murder you.

[Fialka]

Hmm... So I really don't want to believe that Solas was Felassan's master, for, well... Reasons. But... His metaphor with Briala as the flower - tear the one out and a bunch more grow in its place. Felassan realizes that even if he gets rid of her, others will take her place. The elves are pissed. They're rebelling - Halam'shiral, Denerim... They fail, sure, but the desire for freedom and the willingness to fight are there. And Briala, with her cunning and inside knowledge of how humans and their politics work, can actually make a difference. She could be the spark... Where before Felassan likely saw the modern elves much as Solas does - as weak, broken, a shadow worthy of contempt.

It's an interesting parallel to Solas and Lavellan - 'it changes everything' he tells her. But... I don't know. After writing all that out its too easy. One of the things I love about Weekes's writing is how he can convince you of something, and then totally turn it around in a way that makes you feel like you should have seen it that way all along.

And then there's the fact that Solas seems to care about all people, not just the elves. His bitterness toward all the races seems to stem from them not realizing their full potential. I'm more and more convinced that he wants to bring down the veil and 'free' everyone. To level the playing field, maybe? Its a scary thought, but I admit its also rather exciting...

Uh. I'm really far too obsessed with this character. Feel like a teenager with a crush all over again. SOMEONE HELP ME.

Ghah... Sorry for the rambling post. Its late and I'm sleepy but had to get that out there.

[Mims]

The idea of freeing possible innocents [or just 'mortals'] does fit well with some of the information we were given. We know from the interview with Weekes that he considered forgetting the past and dropping his plans. That's an important thing to consider, as it eliminates some possibilities. For instance, if his goal was just to keep the elven gods trapped within their respective prisons...that's not really a job you can just forget or put on hold. If the gods are breaking out, you can't put that off. There's no choice involved there.

 

He doesn't seem to like the gods themselves, although its very possible he views them as a necessary evil to returning the world back to where it started. But he refers to the group he's trying to help as 'the people', which doesn't sound like the way one would address your fellow gods. He would have probably said something like 'the others', or 'our friends', or 'those crazy assholes.' 

 

I don't think Solas's goal is going to be particularly evil. He might be willing to leave a trail of bodies behind him, but I think whatever goal he's focused on 'checks out' mentally for him. Trapped elves fit the book.

 

I just also get the sense that there's something going on beneath all of it, and that portion might not be in Solas's plotting. It could be the elven gods are already hard at work on their own scheme to free themselves. It could be that the elves Solas is willing to kill for have already been lost to madness. There will undoubtably be a catch. 

[madrar]

Can someone check the World of Thedas Volume one, pp.27. 155? That's what the wiki lists as a citation on the Golden City. I'd like some clarification. 

 

Is this what you're looking for?

 

p27

 

"In secret, a group of the most powerful Tevinter magisters open a gate into the Golden City, entering it physically.  They are cast violently back into the physical world twisted and corrupted- the first darkspawn."

 

p155

 

"When the Tevinter magisters were said to open a gate to the Golden City with blood magic in -395 Ancient, the result was catastrophic.  The city turned black, the Old Gods were lost, and the magisters found themselves cast out as the first darkspawn.  Eventually, these darkspawn found and corrupted the Old God Dumat with their taint, freeing and transforming him into the first Archdemon.

 

The darkspawn attacked en masse, concentrating at first on the underground Deep Roads used by the dwarves.   As the thaigs fell, the darkspawn used the Deep Roads to travel under all points of the continent.  All of the Imperium came under seige.  It was chaos."

 

The book is so very careful to only suggest they actually opened a path into the Fade, and not say so outright.  Irrelevant to the matter at hand, but I'm totally on the bandwagon that their blood ritual led directly to the physical City instead.  

[SolaceInSolas]

Has anybody posted this yet? I just saw it on tumblr and died. XD


http://tiny-tyke.deviantart.com/

[CapricornSun]

Just checked my Kindle and yep, he doesn't really want to answer that question:

 

Briala: "Are you even Dalish?"

[...]

Felassan: "Do you want to know the answer to that question, da'len, or do you want my help?"

[...]

Felassan: "That wasn't a rhetorical question."

She swallowed."I want your help, hahren."

"Good". And with that he pulled her into a hug. "And because you were wondering, you were the flower. Now..." He stepped back, and his grin now was predatory but familiar and safe, at least for Briala. "...let us go kill some itchweed." (referring to the Dalish clan in TME)

 

Even if I haven't read TME, I'm liking Felassan already.

 

It's a pity he gets killed though.

 

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Was this posted already? Maybe it's a good thing Solas wasn't around for a game of Wicked Grace. xD

 

 

Source: http://dreaming-of-g...up-for-the-last

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And for Abelas lovers.

 

 

Source: http://abelass.tumbl...t-thing-ever-im

[HurricaneGinger]

Hmm... So I really don't want to believe that Solas was Felassan's master, for, well... Reasons. But... His metaphor with Briala as the flower - tear the one out and a bunch more grow in its place. Felassan realizes that even if he gets rid of her, others will take her place. The elves are pissed. They're rebelling - Halam'shiral, Denerim... They fail, sure, but the desire for freedom and the willingness to fight are there. And Briala, with her cunning and inside knowledge of how humans and their politics work, can actually make a difference. She could be the spark... Where before Felassan likely saw the modern elves much as Solas does - as weak, broken, a shadow worthy of contempt.

It's an interesting parallel to Solas and Lavellan - 'it changes everything' he tells her. But... I don't know. After writing all that out its too easy. One of the things I love about Weekes's writing is how he can convince you of something, and then totally turn it around in a way that makes you feel like you should have seen it that way all along.

And then there's the fact that Solas seems to care about all people, not just the elves. His bitterness toward all the races seems to stem from them not realizing their full potential. I'm more and more convinced that he wants to bring down the veil and 'free' everyone. To level the playing field, maybe? Its a scary thought, but I admit its also rather exciting...

Uh. I'm really far too obsessed with this character. Feel like a teenager with a crush all over again. SOMEONE HELP ME.

Ghah... Sorry for the rambling post. Its late and I'm sleepy but had to get that out there.

 

I don't think Felassan was Solas' slave at all. He may have been another ancient elf that wanted the same thing as Solas and they teamed up. Felassan kept his valaslin to blend in, I'm sure. Then he actually became involved with the world, more than Solas did I bet, came to admire Briala, and gave up everything he was working for to give her a chance. 

 

Solas was about to do that in the glade, and he just couldn't. 

 

fucker better come back and i get to keep him

[Sable Rhapsody]

Yeah, I'm not crazy about the imagery of Lavellan being a prey animal, all trembling and fragile.  I'd like to think Solas was attracted to her, not because of her exquisite vulnerability, but because of her fierceness and strength.  

 

(Going to indulge in a bit of rather off-topic biology nerdery and character analysis here.  Not trying to knock any opinions, just adding a few extra cents on the animal motifs)

 

Prey animals aren't trembling and fragile; we just think of them that way as a literary thing.  And you don't have to be a predator to be freaking terrifying.  Elephants, gorillas, hippos, elk, and yes, deer can all seriously mess up humans and other animals that threaten them.  Even what we think of as small prey animals (rodents, passerine birds, etc.) will viciously fight among themselves and against other species for resources.  Nature is red in tooth and claw, and so is Dragon Age 

 

As for Lavellan, the only thing we really know about Solas's attraction to her is that her spirit is somehow unique.  We're never told why, probably so the romance can fit a wide spectrum of characters and headcanons.  If anything, the Solas romance is very flexible in this regard.  My Lavellan is definitely more the Sansa than the Arya, to use a Game of Thrones analogy.  To me she's not a heroine because she kicks ass.  She's a heroine because she's adaptable, intelligent, and one of the few truly decent people in Thedas.  The way he's written, Solas is capable of being attracted to a Lavellan like mine, a fierce firebrand, a stalwart protector, really anything as long as she's not closed-minded or cruel.

 

EDIT: Oh, and a silly piece of nerdery about the whole Twilight "lion and lamb" imagery: sheep will charge, headbutt, and kick to defend their young.  They establish dominance hierarchies through aggression like many social animals, and during mating season, males can become aggressive enough to even attack their human keepers.  They're intelligent enough to learn names, faces, and respond to clicker training.  So.  Even highly domesticated prey animals?  Capable of being badass.

[Mims]

Drunk Solas revealing who he was only to have it played off as a joke would have been hilarious. 

[CapricornSun]

Drunk Solas revealing who he was only to have it played off as a joke would have been hilarious. 

 

Indeed! I mean, he already slipped up at Halamshiral just from being a bit tipsy. Can you imagine during the Wicked Grace scene?

[SolaceInSolas]

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