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[Kulyok]

Boring stuff from the World of Thedas(just finished the book):

(spoilers!)


- Normal dreamers(even mages) who get killed in the Fade wake up right before their death, but lucid dreamers and those who use lyrium actually die. So, no tranquility for Felassan. The guy is truly dead.
(Despite Marethari telling us that death in the Fade=Tranquility. Huh.) And someone possibly could kill Solas in the Fade if our wolf is not careful.

- a corruption at the heart of the Fade is said to set in motion the Blight, plus it is said that Dumat himself(according to some ancient lore) created the first darkspawn, plus some sources say that Dumat assaulted the City together with ancient magisters. Which probably means that Dumat did it.
(Given how angry Mythal is at how she was betrayed and how the world was betrayed, the events might be related)

- also, Celene is younger than Cailan? Seriously? She looks fifty at the ball!

- Turns out Bhelen is the middle child. Huh. Always thought he was the youngest.

- Once the book said that Anders did blow up the Chantry. But two or three times the book hinted that he just claimed responsibility/possibly wasn't the only one responsible. Huh. Did they mean Justice? Someone else? Just awkward phrasing? I wonder.

- Stuff about the Fade: old elven beliefs call it the Beyond, "a holy place once home to their gods. What little of elven lore has survived speaks ofFen'Harel, a trickster god who schemed to take the Beyond for himself, imprisoning his brethren in the Eternal City at its heart. The elves believe their gods remain trapped in the prison to this day, as Fen'Harel, the Dread Wolf, gleefully patrols the Beyond to feast upon the souls of the dead".

- Traditionally, the Wardens are allowed to recruit one member from each Circle of Magi. So, not just "one mage", but one from each Circle.

[jellobell]

Unpopular opinion time....please dont hate me. XD

I was just thinking that maybe the reason he isnt the aggreser in most romance scenes isn't because he had hypersensitivity or anything like that, but simply because he knew he shouldn't be engaging her, even though he wants to because it will distract him from his mission and likely hurt her in the end. But he ends up not being able to help himself, and once he gives in, that aggressive nature, and thirst for touch comes out. I think the reason he is so handsy in the last scene is because he knows it is the last time he will kiss/hold her.

Anyways, to me anyway, it seems like he is reserved because his brain is telling him no, but his body, his body is telling him yessss! XD

Anywho, im laying in bed beside my sleeping boyfriend, who thinks im also sleeping....so I gotta go night night. Goodnight wolf pack!

*edit* I forgot to add that I do think they had sex sometime between the second and last scene, which is the reason he's so at ease grabbing that booty. XD But that just my own take on it. Lol

 

 

Hypersensitivity... I hate people touching me. I remember being, what, 7 years old, and if someone stroked my head, I'd jerk away and get a wish to hit whomever was touching me. At the same time, I am completely ok with touching others, so maybe it's not hypersensitivity, but just some weird quirk of my psyche.

 

*ahem* back to Solas. I may see this a bit differently. I don't think he doesn't like touching. Someone mentioned his usual "hands behind his back" posture a few posts ago. I find it sort of symbolic; just like he keeps his hands behind, he has to keep his emotions in check. He's basically restricting himself, in both physical and psychological sense. He knows he cannot let his emotions win over. However, he is an emotional and passionate person, so ofc he's going to slip. That's what happens in his romance scenes with Lav. He tries to leave before his emotions take over - she does something that breaks his self-control - *kiss*. And then he has to leave before he completely loses control (...alright, this one sounded... dirty). He knows that it won't end well. He doesn't want to give in. So he tries to keep any physical contact to minimum - because it leads to an outburst of emotions - but Lav breaks through his defences again and again. 

 

As always, imo only don't kill me  

 

No, I think you're both right. I don't think he's hypersensitive (I just relate to his situation because of my own sensory issues), I think he's starved for touch. He wants physical contact but is unable to let himself have it not because of medical factors (like hypersensitivity) but because of his whole tragic situation. So he bounces between extremes until he finally becomes both emotionally and physically comfortable with Lavellan.

 

In a way, he's like his orb. Something that's sought release for ages and when it finally is opened it's so much more powerful than it should be (wait...that sounds wrong XD).

[SolaceInSolas]

Just saw this beautiful comic by K-yon, over at devianart. Enjoy! Under spoilers because it's biiiiig.
@Renmiri1 that comic is killing me OMG hahahah

Spoiler

Read part 2 here.

Omg this is beautiful! T_T

[CapricornSun]

The Pugquisition. (I'm sad that Solas is just an egg in this one. xD)

 

 

Source: http://pugletto.tumb...he-pugquisition

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Source: http://pugletto.tumb...ition-pugvisers

[Sifr]

Boring stuff from the World of Thedas(just finished the book):

(spoilers!)


- Normal dreamers(even mages) who get killed in the Fade wake up right before their death, but lucid dreamers and those who use lyrium actually die. So, no tranquility for Felassan. The guy is truly dead.
(Despite Marethari telling us that death in the Fade=Tranquility. Huh.) And someone possibly could kill Solas in the Fade if our wolf is not careful.

- a corruption at the heart of the Fade is said to set in motion the Blight, plus it is said that Dumat himself(according to some ancient lore) created the first darkspawn, plus some sources say that Dumat assaulted the City together with ancient magisters. Which probably means that Dumat did it.
(Given how angry Mythal is at how she was betrayed and how the world was betrayed, the events might be related)

- also, Celene is younger than Cailan? Seriously? She looks fifty at the ball!

- Turns out Bhelen is the middle child. Huh. Always thought he was the youngest.

- Once the book said that Anders did blow up the Chantry. But two or three times the book hinted that he just claimed responsibility/possibly wasn't the only one responsible. Huh. Did they mean Justice? Someone else? Just awkward phrasing? I wonder.

- Stuff about the Fade: old elven beliefs call it the Beyond, "a holy place once home to their gods. What little of elven lore has survived speaks ofFen'Harel, a trickster god who schemed to take the Beyond for himself, imprisoning his brethren in the Eternal City at its heart. The elves believe their gods remain trapped in the prison to this day, as Fen'Harel, the Dread Wolf, gleefully patrols the Beyond to feast upon the souls of the dead".

- Traditionally, the Wardens are allowed to recruit one member from each Circle of Magi. So, not just "one mage", but one from each Circle.

 

Just to note, that they later posted a bunch of corrections for errors in the book, like some minor timeline errors and stuff like the Bhelen being the "middle" child, when he is canonically the youngest.

[Aroihkin]

Note: I have no idea what the view on Solas/male is 'round here -- I write him with a gal, and just haven't given any real thought one way or another on the subject despite usually not writing het. I actually romanced him first in part because I expected it to grab me less. Whoops.

 

This picture was to fill a prompt for a no-context-necessary make-out session between Solas and Zevran.

 

Spoiler

 

I've posted it on Deviant Art, and on Tumblr.

 

But hey, since I'm here and curious, has anything been definitively stated about his orientation? I've heard the male Lavellan dialogue clips, but do we know if m!Lavellan/Solas was cut for time, or for some other reason?

 

Straight or bi, I think he's awesome either way.

[_Lucinia]

 

But hey, since I'm here and curious, has anything been definitively stated about his orientation? I've heard the male Lavellan dialogue clips, but do we know if m!Lavellan/Solas was cut for time, or for some other reason?

 

Straight or bi, I think he's awesome either way.

I think they have the actors record dialogue for both since they're in the studio anyways, in case they take the character in that direction.  As far as I know they've never specified if it was cut for time, or because they decided in the end he is straight.  Same thing with Cullen.  Better to have the dialogue recorded and not need it, rather than have to bring the actors back in after the fact. 

[DrTeatime]

Note: I have no idea what the view on Solas/male is 'round here -- I write him with a gal, and just haven't given any real thought one way or another on the subject despite usually not writing het. I actually romanced him first in part because I expected it to grab me less. Whoops.

 

But hey, since I'm here and curious, has anything been definitively stated about his orientation? I've heard the male Lavellan dialogue clips, but do we know if m!Lavellan/Solas was cut for time, or for some other reason?

 

Straight or bi, I think he's awesome either way.

I absolutely wish we could have romanced him with male Lavellan, some part of me is still hoping they'll add it.

[Sable Rhapsody]

I think they have the actors record dialogue for both since they're in the studio anyways, in case they take the character in that direction.  As far as I know they've never specified if it was cut for time, or because they decided in the end he is straight.  Same thing with Cullen.  Better to have the dialogue recorded and not need it, rather than have to bring the actors back in after the fact. 

 

Yes.  VAs always record extra lines, like extra takes in filming.  Always easier to take more than you need than to not have it later.  They did the same thing for romance-specific dialogue in Mass Effect 1 and 2: you can find fully voiced dialogue for ManShep/Kaidan and FemShep/Ash, though neither option was implemented in that game.  I think you can also find a few pieces of recorded ManShep/Garrus and ManShep/Thane dialogue in ME2.

[Sifr]

I think they have the actors record dialogue for both since they're in the studio anyways, in case they take the character in that direction.  As far as I know they've never specified if it was cut for time, or because they decided in the end he is straight.  Same thing with Cullen.  Better to have the dialogue recorded and not need it, rather than have to bring the actors back in after the fact. 

 

Yeah, kinda like when FPJr had to do re-recording after the fact because they initially had him gated for Qunari-only because they couldn't get the animations right with the other races, only to then fix it and have to bring him back into the booth to record the new dialogue for the other races.

 

Having them record both genders on the off-chance, seems like it saves time and money in the long run?

[electricfish]

I had the second best brain blast about Solas while I was at work. It's second best because I read about it in a fanfiction (this one). The author kind of had Solas/Fen'Harel mention offhandedly, but he says he gave the elves art and music and some other artsy thing I can't remember.

 

The point is, I think it actually fits with his character very well! Fen'Harel, the god of rebellion teaching muggles how to use their imagination to break free of the mundane slavery of routine and ritual. Solas now is a patient teacher with a passion for memories, stories, and painting. He seems to hold stories and books rather dearly for both the information and the imagination in the pages. Solas is very respectful of Master Tethras (a title of respect not used with other companions) when talking about his books or stories. 

 

Think about it. Solas would be the biggest theater nerd. There's plenty of pride in imaginations creating beautiful art. Not to mention, plays have been historically used to convey information to the common people without having them be literate. It allowed people to explore both the brighter and darker aspects of their psyche without getting too personal about it.

 

And while in that line of thinking...who else can be tied into art and beauty? Perhaps.. Urthmiel, the Old God of Beauty? That possible soul that Flemeth takes control of if you did the Dark Ritual. The Old Gods might not be directly tied to the elven pantheon as we know it, but it's still potentially an interesting tie. I know people tend to associate Fenrir with Fen'Harel, but it's totally possible for it to be an assimilated constellation of the ..Nerominians or whoever came before the Imperium.

[Siha]

I'm confused... are you arguing that despite what the character's writer said, that Solas wasn't actually intending to tell the truth to Lavellan, or that they didn't portray this in a way that you thought was effective?

Either or. From the cutscene I doubt that they tried to express him changing his mind at the last second. But if they did try that it was really executed poorly.
I claim no knowledge, I cannot read minds.

[jellobell]

But hey, since I'm here and curious, has anything been definitively stated about his orientation? I've heard the male Lavellan dialogue clips, but do we know if m!Lavellan/Solas was cut for time, or for some other reason?

 

Straight or bi, I think he's awesome either way.

As others have said, the voice clips were likely recorded because it's SOP to have the player character actors record the entire script in case they miss something.

 

Personally, I have no objection to Solas being written as bi. I think the relationship would work just as well either way, and it might be a fun thing to explore. I know there was some tumblr hullabaloo over all of this, but as far as I'm concerned people can write him however they want. My bigger concern is if he's in-character. If he talks and acts like Solas then I'm good.

 

Think about it. Solas would be the biggest theater nerd. There's plenty of pride in imaginations creating beautiful art. Not to mention, plays have been historically used to convey information to the common people without having them be literate. It allowed people to explore both the brighter and darker aspects of their psyche without getting too personal about it.

I love this. Running around the Winter Palace and gathering codex entries, I kept thinking of how awesome it would be to go to one of the Orlesian plays that they described. And since Solas loved the ball so much, he'd probably find the whole experience of going to one fascinating. More than anyone else, Orlesians love their theater. The codex describes how attentive an audience of Orlesians is. I think Solas would appreciate a story well told to a respectful and receptive audience.

 

Ok, that's totally a Solas date night idea. Take him to see an Orlesian play.

[Addai]

Ok. So I don't want to make this into a huge debate, but I'm honestly curious about what people don't like about the PC controls. I'm ok with 99% of the default, and have only tweaked a few of keybinds. Is it the movement of the character itself that is imprecise with the controls, or something more related to how the hotkeys mesh with each other when you're trying to fight 4 bears and a Mabari at once?
I kind of feel like I'm in a minority whenever people talk about hating the controls for DAI, or really any other Bioware game. People never seem to expand on the reason other than "it's awful." :/

Where to begin. The tactical camera is useless, for starters- which means other mechanics like Hold are useless, and it's out of the question to put the difficulty up or turn on friendly fire. The loot mechanic requires you to sidle up to something and find the tiny, tiny hit box and get it to line up just right then watch an animation- over and over again. Navigation is awkward and requires both a hand on the mouse and on the direction keys. If there's an auto-run I haven't found it yet. Combat requires a constant hold on the R key, which is just ridiculous, and no auto-target of enemies so you can end up flailing at nothing. There are other annoyances like only having 8 ability slots, but these are the main ones. Since the game is so big and requires a lot of farming and fetching, having the basic mechanics be so tedious pretty much kills it.

I actually bought a controller because I heard how much easier it was to play with one, and it seems game developers aren't going to make proper PC versions anymore since this happens with other games as well. Unfortunately the controller I got seems to not mesh with the game because only one button worked, enough so that I broke my game and had to manually get it back to MKB controls. I'm not about to spend more money trying to make a bad control system work. I've gotten enough enjoyment out of the game with my Lavellan playthrough that I'm not sorry I bought it, but there's no way I'm getting any other character through Haven.

But hey, since I'm here and curious, has anything been definitively stated about his orientation? I've heard the male Lavellan dialogue clips, but do we know if m!Lavellan/Solas was cut for time, or for some other reason?

Gaider's comment on Twitter when asked about Solas and Cullen was "Do people have to justify being straight?" Take from that what you will.

[electricfish]

Thanks for the explanations about KB and M frustrations. I feel it's rather smooth to use mouse as camera with direction keys, so it's interesting seeing that some people find it frustrating. I like playing with a controller sometimes, but I don't like how..imprecise using a joystick as the camera movement can be if it's not supported properly. From the other few answers, it seems like it's mostly a camera/gameplay issue rather than specifically controls themselves. I think that's what was tripping me up since those two things are not necessarily mutually inclusive.

 

I'm pretty sure there is an auto-run key, actually. R or T or something, but you might want to take a look at the keybinds to be sure. But! I do agree about the tactical camera. DAO was much better implemented and I miss it.

[Addai]

R is auto-attack but not auto-target. You can R at the empty countryside all day- which I do, if I'm not paying attention. I've heard that melee combat is more frustrating because you can sit there swinging at air. Movement with the mouse also means I sometimes end up attacking when I want to move. Good thing you can disable friendly fire.

[Hedinve]

I found an interesting norse mythology tidbit that ties into the "June - dwarf" theory today. Dwarves in norse mythology does not procreate the normal way, they make themselves via smithing. June is suppose to have created himself and is the god of craft.

 

And some legends say the were co-creators of the human race. 4 dwarves holds the world up - titans. Just going to leave that here.

 

Totally not related but funny in a "yuck" way, they are said to originate as maggots in Yme's corpse and dvergamål (laguange of the dwarves) is the echo we hear (still not related to anything). 

[Sifr]

I found an interesting norse mythology tidbit that ties into the "June - dwarf" theory today. Dwarves in norse mythology does not procreate the normal way, they make themselves via smithing. June is suppose to have created himself and is the god of craft.

 

And some legends say the were co-creators of the human race. 4 dwarves holds the world up - titans. Just going to leave that here.

 

Totally not related but funny in a "yuck" way, they are said to originate as maggots in Yme's corpse and dvergamål (laguange of the dwarves) is the echo we hear (still not related to anything). 

 

Wait, people actually liked my June = Dwarf theory? Or did someone else independently come up with it as well?

[Addai]

Wait, people actually liked my June = Dwarf theory? Or did someone else independently come up with it as well?

I think it's pretty common actually. I'd heard it before DAI came out. Sandal= June, specifically.

[electricfish]

Ah, I found it. G is default auto-run toggle.

[Hedinve]

I can't remember where I read  the June-dwarf theory the first time, but I'll happily credit it to you Sifr

I'm just compairing Thedas mythology to norse mythology because it's fun.

[Sifr]

I think it's pretty common actually. I'd heard it before DAI came out. Sandal= June, specifically.

 

I can't remember where I read  the June-dwarf theory the first time, but I'll happily credit it to you Sifr

I'm just compairing Thedas mythology to norse mythology because it's fun.

 

Ah, I suggested it a couple hundred pages back when someone came up with a chart of all the Elven gods relationships with each other, so I might not be able to take credit for it after all... drat, and here I was wondering how no-one had suggested it before?

 

But yeah, the Norse parallels and typical Dwarven stereotyping as master craftsmen is what got me thinking that June might not be elven?

[Shari'El]

It's so very heartwarming. I really do love how I was able to play my Lavellan. She was so steady and understanding. She let Solas know what she wanted, and that she wasn't going anywhere, then waited for him to come to her. She didn't push, just consistently let him know that she cared about him, and wanted him to be happy, for no other reason than that she loved him. It's what Solas really needed at that point in time.

 

 

Exactly. Really, the way that Solas's romance uses touch is a wonderful parallel to the emotional dimension of the romance. He not only has to re-learn how to be physically comfortable with someone, he also has to regain his ability to trust and rely on another person. He has a "it's been a long time" comment after the kiss and, perhaps even more significantly, after the Inquisitor tries to help his friend. He came to them for help, opened himself up for disappointment, and the Inquisitor came through. The game heavily hints that he was betrayed in the past by someone very close, so this is a very significant expression of trust. And afterwards, even though he talks a lot about your insight and track record of wise choices in the post-mission conversation, I think what's foremost in his mind (which he won't admit) is that the Inquisitor was there for him when he needed them. The Inquisitor proved to Solas in a very personal way that they are a person that he can have trust in. And I think it was at that moment that he began to consider telling a romanced Inquisitor the truth about himself.

 

 

By the way, I'm sort of the same. It's really hard for me to go to concerts, if someone dances close to me I get nervous, if they touch me I can barely listen to the music afterwards :< I don't even hug my friends XD

[Hedinve]

I think I read your post on that. What had me thinking was the story of june creating himself and then the mastersmiths came on top of that. And I have no idea why I ended up in dwarf land at all, I was planning to write a reply to Gwyvain on literature...