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[Avejajed]

OK.  I must have misunderstood the tone of your post then.

 

It's easy to do- forums are really not suited to evaluating tone.

 

What I've tried to do (recently) is just assume they aren't being aggressive until they are being directly aggressive.

 

I always assumed the worst before and it made my life on the forums a nightmare.

[kalasaurus]

It's easy to do- forums are really not suited to evaluating tone.

 

What I've tried to do (recently) is just assume they aren't being aggressive until they are being directly aggressive.

 

I always assumed the worst before and it made my life on the forums a nightmare.

Good advice.  I should definitely put that into practice.  I'm self conscious enough as it is XD

[Siha]

Good advice. I should definitely put that into practice. I'm self conscious enough as it is XD

At least in this thread/forum. All people seem civilised and smart.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Hello, Solas thread. Is it okay to share small one-shot fics in this group?

[madrar]

What exactly do you wish to do? Just isolate theory chat or keep track of theories, cross-referencing them?

 

I don't necessarily want to isolate theory chat- I don't think anyone here feels they need to be "protected" from it, even if things can get a bit heavy during the tin foil part of the cycle.  I'm more interested in ensuring the bits that we put together are preserved and presented in a useful way so they can be refined, re-evaluated, and tossed as necessary when new theory and evidence comes in.   

 

The wiki idea seems somewhat useful, given cross-referencing utility and how so many of these things are interrelated... but also a huge amount of work to build and upkeep.  Hmm.

[kalasaurus]

Hello, Solas thread. Is it okay to share small one-shot fics in this group?

Definitely

[Doveberry]

I think having a specific place for all information is a great idea because the wiki is terrible sometimes. I think we should certainly find a place that we can create our own "wiki-like" area where we can group topics together and list theories. I'm not sure if a group is the best place for that or on some kind of website. I'm just afraid if a group is created all of the theory minded folks will abandon ship and the thread will lose it's charm.

We could create an actual Wiki.

 

http://www.wikia.com...l:CreateNewWiki

 

People could add to it when new theories come up, and the theorising would be kept here. The nice thing about wikis is that no single person needs to take responsibility for keeping it going. It's a collaborative effort.

[Avejajed]

We could create an actual Wiki.

 

http://www.wikia.com...l:CreateNewWiki

 

People could add to it when new theories come up, and the theorising would be kept here. The nice thing about wikis is that no single person needs to take responsibility for keeping it going. It's a collaborative effort.

 

I'm willing to help.  I think it's a good idea- and we can keep it how we want instead of all disjointed like the actual wiki.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Definitely

 

Okay, here goes.

 

The idea for my one shot was just "Lavellan's knee-jerk reaction to finding out Solas is the Dread Wolf.

 

Story is in the spoiler box below.

 

Spoiler

 

Delicate hands carefully opened the lid on the box, for she was afraid, perhaps unnecessarily, of hurting the content inside the box. Although the scroll inside had survived for centuries through the use of powerful elven enchantments, caution was still required she told herself. She gently drew out the scrolls, feeling the texture of paper in her hands.

 

“Perfect, no harm done,” Lavellan muttered to herself. It had been a long journey from the newly discovered shrine in the Barcellian Forest in Ferelden to Skyhold, and she had worried that the artifacts found there would have taken damage on the way back.

 

Peace had slowly, but surely been restored to the southern nations. And for the moment the inquisition lacked a purpose, so she had for the last few months dedicated all their resources to tracking down Solas. Some would perhaps have called it obsession, yet did she not have good reason? Yes, finding him was a personal matter, but there was more to it, or at least that was what she told herself. She remembered reading Leliana’s report, how her spies had tracked down the village from which the elf supposedly had originated from, only to find centuries old ruins. She had suspicions before, remembering how the temple guardian Abelas had asked him, he answered

 

“Yes, elvhen… such as I”

 

“Such as I”

 

As if there were a clear separation of what she and he were. And yet, there must have been. Was he simply another elvhen of old? No, she thought, it was more than that. Ever since the inquisition began its search, reports from across Thedas had emerged, rumors of an elven apostate matching his description, seemingly appearing in a corner of Ferelden one week, only for a rumor of a similar nature to appear in the most northern parts of the Free Marches a few days later. And every time they went out to follow these leads, elven ruins would be found, but no sign of where he had gone after, so they had scoured whatever they could from the ruins, hoping to learn what he was doing or planning to. Yet, even with all they had managed to find, they were no closer to understanding, it something to do with a key and Fen’Harel, but a key to what? And how did it relate to Fen’Harel? A key to an eluvian? His lair or temple? None of it was clear.

 

Perhaps this scroll would finally reveal everything?

 

She tried to clear her mind of all distractions and began reading. Only two years ago she would have difficulty reading any of the words it spoke, yet after having drunk from the well of sorrows. It all was as easy as reading a children’s book.

It wouldn’t take long.

 

-

 

Pure shock, she felt as if she had trouble breathing for a moment. No, it couldn’t be, it was impossible, the scroll had to be lying, it couldn’t be true.

 

And yet it all made sense now, it all fit together now. He had been searching for a key, a key to an eluvian which only he could enter, a door to his domain.

 

The Dread Wolf’s domain.

 

Memories came crashing down on her, each and every moment since the temple of sacred ashes was remembered, reexamined.

 

How much of it was a lie? How much had he deceived her? She felt tears trying to escape her eyes; her breathing became strained. She thought back to the moments they had, that they shared. She had thought she had found someone special in him, someone to help guide her, help ease the burden she carried. But he had never cared; all that ever must have mattered to him was the orb. Whatever plan he had involving Corypheus and the orb had failed, and she had fallen right in the middle of his scheme and became branded by the mark in the process. So he had joined, hoping to recover the orb.

 

And oh how perfect it must have been for him to find that it was she who had been branded, that it had been one of the people. How fun it must have been to have had a new Dalish to torment as if she were a plaything. How amusing it must have been to have been given the opportunity to trick and seduce the first of the keeper of clan Lavellan, the one who was meant to guard her people against you.

 

Had all the misfortune befallen her been his influence? The destruction of her clan, had he pulled the strings? She remembered her grief when she heard the news; he had visited her in her chambers and tried to comfort her, and in her inner turmoil she had escalated it, first with a few kisses which, despite his seeming reluctance, in the end led to an intimacy which she had never before allowed or experienced with any other man. Had it been a trick? A tragedy created to get her into bed to fulfill some twisted sense of pleasure or amusement?

 

And what of the well of sorrows? He had pleaded for her not to drink from it. He had sounded so concern, so worried, but had that concern been genuine? She raised her right hand, half closed into a fist, and with a single thought a small flame sprang from the palm of her hand.

 

Yes, his concern had been genuine.

 

But not for her.

 

He had been afraid, afraid of how powerful she could become from drinking it. It was obvious, ever since she consumed the well’s power she had felt it, that day by day, month by month, her powers had increased even further. Spells she had once struggled to maintain for even a second now came as easy as breathing to her. And she knew her powers would only continue to grow from here. Yes, she had been bound to Mythal, but that a small price to pay for the knowledge and power the well provided. And her only meeting with the goddess had gone reasonably well, she did not fear her.

 

She rose up from her chair and went to look at a small mirror she had on her wall, she looked at the bare face that starred back at her. She let the fingers from her left hand glide over her face, touching where her vallaslin once were. It had been his final “gift” to her, to remove the vallaslin that once covered her face. Given that she at that point lost her clan, she wondered if this was the final touch to complete her separation from her people. Had she returned to her own clan with her vallaslin, they would still have welcomed her back, but the rest? She still remembered with bitterness the hateful words and suspicious eyes she received when she greeted them barefaced. She truly had become an exile.

 

The Dread Wolf had taken too much, from her and from her people. She knew what her goal now was, to hunt him down. Wherever he tried to hide, she would follow. Whatever he would scheme, she would stop it.

 

She would hunt him down, to the ends of the earth.

 

 

Please comment. ^^

[Siha]

I don't necessarily want to isolate theory chat- I don't think anyone here needs to be "protected" from it, even if things can get a bit heavy during the tin foil part of the cycle. I'm more interested in ensuring the bits that we put together are preserved and presented in a useful way, so they can be refined, re-evaluated, and tossed as necessary when new theory and evidence comes in.

The wiki idea seems somewhat useful, given cross-referencing utility and how so many of these things are interrelated... but also a huge amount of work to build and upkeep. Hmm.

I still suggest setting up a wiki. Discuss ideas here and soon as you reach consensus on the relevance of a theory, the inventor rewrites it as a coherent, precise wiki entry. Is a little more work but usually worth it (if it's a hobby). Or tag you threads implicitly by introducing particular (unique) keywords to the respective threads.

[Illyria]

Celene and Briala sounds toxic. 

 

I thought that would be the case, but I had my Lavellan do it (because she knows they used to be a couple, but doesn't know everything I know).  It actually works out pretty well.  Briala is able to go back into the relationship with all the knowledge of what Celene has done, and now she's a noble the relationship is more equal.

[Seregwen]

I didn't notice the ears, so maybe? I'll keep an eye out on the next play through.   I also enjoy it when the companions move around a bit more. Even at Skyhold it's nice to see Cass training or Solas looking over his notes or the murals.

 

 

Speaking of Solas's murals, I got a closer look at the one he paints after Adamant:

Spoiler

 

I always thought of the Fade as one area separated from physical reality by the Veil, but the way Solas paints it, the Fade seems more like layers. Some of the circles look like bricks, which makes me think of walls. The silhouette of the Black City is at the center, which makes sense since it's visible from everywhere in the Fade.

 

I'm probably just taking his artistic representation too literally, but I found the layer idea kind of interesting.

How neat! The three eyes on either side of it. They look like the Fen Harel wolf eyes that I've seen in all that fan art. Are those eyes his eyes? Is he symbolizing how close he got, or how close he is to getting in there? Does he want to get in there?

[slmisfit]

I really need to read TME. I read the Stolen Throne way back in the day and I thought it was...alright. But it didn't grab me. Then again, back then I was more of a Mass Effect fan anyways. Inquisition really made me fall in love with the lore, especially elven lore.

 

Also, Kreebby on tumblr, the one who captured that awesome flycam shot of the fade kiss, just posted the video. And it is amazing.

 

 

http://kreebby.tumbl...o-of-the-flycam

 

Also, best tag ever.

 

 

It really is a big damn hollywood kiss! Just the way he grabs her waist and pulls her forwards. 

 

men still dominate gaming

 

The thing about that though is that this actually tells us jack-all.

 

I've made almost 30 Inquisitors. At least half of them were male. I've deleted the majority of them, and out of the ones I've kept, most are female.

 

None of that information actually tells you that I'm a woman.

 

Useless infographic is useless. I wish they'd start making ones that give actual relevant statistics.

[Shari'El]

We could create an actual Wiki.

 

http://www.wikia.com...l:CreateNewWiki

 

People could add to it when new theories come up, and the theorising would be kept here. The nice thing about wikis is that no single person needs to take responsibility for keeping it going. It's a collaborative effort.

 

This is a wonderful idea :|

Seriously.

We should do that! If we have all the information and theories organized then perhaps we'll reach conclusions.

[The Oracle]

Sorry, not sure if anyone has posted this before. It's just so lovely.

 

[Illyria]

Yes. Body-hopping souls means gender can go either way. Let's go with that. Thanks Ave 

 

I'm still not sold on this being a common thing.  I'm sticking to the 'gods were powerful mages' theory.  Mythal struck me as being a unique case due to her murder.

[Hedinve]

A wiki is probably the most tidy way of doing it, but we could also create a group and double post, original wherever and a copy in the group. That way we could keep track of it. Still a hassle perhaps. I struggle with composing one coherent post here and this is the only thread I post in.

[madrar]

The scope of a wiki project is definitely a bit daunting to me.  @w@   There's a crazy amount of historical back theory to dig up and restructure in this thread.   

 

*rolls up her sleeves*

 

Screw it, I'm in.  I've never messed with wikis before, though.  How do we get this party started?

[DrTeatime]

The scope of a wiki project is definitely a bit daunting to me.  @w@   There's a crazy amount of historical back theory to dig up and restructure in this thread.   

 

*rolls up her sleeves*

 

Screw it, I'm in.  I've never messed with wikis before, though.  How do we get this party started?

I can contribute with...screenshots and crappy photoshop jobs. >.>

[Kulyok]

@The Oracle - could you please link to the artist's site? That work of fanart you posted is so great, I'd love to see more.

[soragrey]

I kind of like the wiki idea. I wouldn't want it to inhibit discussion here, though, so I think it'd be decent to still have this thread as the main discussion but then have the wiki merely be an index of sorts for the more flushed-out theories, plus other good stuff that gets posted and then quickly buried. I've seen a lot of posts that are just asking for buried stuff "Does anyone have that link to that fanfic/fanart" etc. We could also have a section for movies/flycam/etc that's posted here as well. The question would then be, who would keep track of it all?

[Doveberry]

The scope of a wiki project is definitely a bit daunting to me.  @w@   There's a crazy amount of historical back theory to dig up and restructure in this thread.   

 

*rolls up her sleeves*

 

Screw it, I'm in.  I've never messed with wikis before, though.  How do we get this party started?

I've never even edited a wiki page myself, but I'd certainly be willing to help.

 

Not sure what would be a suitable wiki name, though. Dragon Age Theorycrafting? Or would we want to name it something that would mostly appeal to people who regularly visit this thread? Something along the lines of "Solas Thread Theorycrafting"? It might be a good idea in that less people are likely to barge in and start trolling about, but then again we might lose out on ideas from people that don't visit the thread, and who might want to contribute anyway.

[The Oracle]

@The Oracle - could you please link to the artist's site? That work of fanart you posted is so great, I'd love to see more.

 

Of course. http://lucife56.deviantart.com/Her work is lovely and there is a really interesting mix. Even some Tolkien/Thranduil in there too, for those Tolkienists amongst us.

[Avejajed]

Well, first we should name it. 

 

Something. AWESOME.

[Rabbitonfire]

something... tinfoil related... is there a crazy npc you could name it after?