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[tsunamitigerdragon]

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[Hedinve]

Avejajed. I... just LOVE YOU!

[tsunamitigerdragon]

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[Moondreamer01]

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Which is what leads me to my Friday night (or day, or whatever crazy Past or Future time zone you are in) question for you! Cos I know you guys enjoy talking about your Lavellan's

Did your Lavellan go through a personality change at all during their Inquisition time? Were they stoic from start to finish? Or did something happen along the way that made you change the way you played?

 

[snip]

Oh my, I love those questions!

 

My Lavellan starts out almost 90% snark. She was a loner while in the clan, the scout who went ahead of the other, and after being thrown in the midst of the Inquisition, she snarks to hide the fact she's terrified half off her mind. She does get to be more serious as the game progresses though. Under it all, she has a soft heart (yay, I didn't harden Leliana this playthrough!) and is very protective of those she comes to consider her new clan. Here Lies the Abyss was tough. I'm glad to know I'm not the only one to exile the Wardens out of spite, lol. Then, that village gets massacred by darkspawns and she sees the very real consequence of her rash decision and it cools her down somewhat, makes her think more before she does something. It worked well that Solas' personnal quest happened just after that and she told him not to kill the mages. She didn't want her regretting his brash decision the way she did (having no idea at this point that he's got much more to regret in his long life, eh).

 

By the end of the playthrough, I've been using the "diplomatic" thing to say a lot more often than the snarky one. She's more grounded, and more at ease in her role, than at the beginning. She lost her **** when Solas broke up though. She was NOT happy. I tried the more sad option but it just didn't suit her style.

 

Now, I want want to start another Lavellan who starts shy and fluffy and ends up more hardened. That should be fun.

[Avejajed]

I swear I had plans for the day - analyzing Tyrdda Bright-Axe's poem so it made sense. But the chat. It's so compelling!

 

I feel sad I can't contribute to chat.

[Hedinve]

You're welcome if you're able to at some point, but it's mostly chatter atm

[Moondreamer01]

I'm afraid I can't contribute much to a wiki, but I really love the idea and I'm looking forward to seeing where it will lead!

[Sah291]

Which is what leads me to my Friday night (or day, or whatever crazy Past or Future time zone you are in) question for you! Cos I know you guys enjoy talking about your Lavellan's

Did your Lavellan go through a personality change at all during their Inquisition time? Were they stoic from start to finish? Or did something happen along the way that made you change the way you played?

 

 

Yes, I basically played it like a fish out of water story... Lavellan leaves the comfort of her small clan and suddenly has to adapt and deal with all sorts of different (crazy) people and ideas she isn't used to. She befriends Solas right away, because she sees him as a fellow mage and ally when she doesn't trust the chantry folks at all in the beginning. But she's curious, and slowly starts to care for her Andrastian friends/companions over time... I think the scene where Roderick dies really had a big impact on my character. I think that was the moment she started to soften towards them. She's forced to confront her own beliefs and question everything she's ever believed in as a Dalish. So she starts off kind of naive and inexperienced, but becomes a capable leader by the end.

[Kryllian]

Solas was where Varric was when the explosion happened, according to a trailer. In some tavern nearby.
 
One of my biggest questions when it comes to Solas is how much he was aware the opening of the orb would be catastrophic. Did he know that Corypheus would use such an important blood sacrifice and didn't care? Would the orb have caused so much destruction if the Inquisitor hadn't intervened and ripped some of the power from it? Did he know that it would cause such a mess but under normal circumstances it would have been more contained or stoppable? He definitely didn't seem happy with all the chaos Corypheus wrought with it.
 

Do you have a link for that trailer? I only found one with Varric, nothing in Solas' location. Would love to see.

My opinion is he had to know there would be repercussions to Corypheus opening the orb, but I doubt he predicted the explosion, especially if that was caused by the Quizzy interfering. I think he knew there would be a sacrifice, though he may not know the specific details, he would have to know and was willing to allow such deeds to happen, 'for the greater good' sort of thing. He wouldn't be happy about it, but I think he already has enough guilt on his conscience that a bit more to fix his past mistakes wouldn't be out of the question. I am assuming (all opinions here, no fact) Solas was intending on either reobtaining the orb once opened and fixing everything himself once he had the power, or, to piggyback on whatever Corypheus did (entering the Fade??) to fix his past mistakes (by freeing the other elven gods???). I think he realized the instant the explosion happened that he'd screwed up again, and was willing to get outside help for the first time ever, because the resulting chaos was more than he could handle. Solas, as the dread wolf, is fine with chaos if the end justifies the means, but the outright destruction of that many people, was too much. IMO

Welcome discussion on the matter

[Lady Luminous]

 

Did your Lavellan go through a personality change at all during their Inquisition time? Were they stoic from start to finish? Or did something happen along the way that made you change the way you played?

 

 

This reminds me of the balcony scene where Solas asks if the mark has changed you in any way, and for whatever reason I'm not allowed to say "Yes, yes it bloody has! Wouldn't having this power and being the leader of an organization after being brought up as a commoner change anyone?" Except I'm not allowed to and it bothers me. 

[Avejajed]

I would love further feedback. If my form of organization seems suitable I can create a document or PDF file that will be more in depth, and that can be changed or added to as requested based on input.

 

But I don't want to if that's not the form of organizing people were thinking, and my feelings certainly wont be hurt.

[Siha]

 

 

 

O_O

Overkill.
I totally appreciate that.

I totally do not want to do that.

 

Okay, now seriously, that is a splendid structure. But I have no clue how to fill it with content. Many parts of this would probably end up in replicating content from the existing DA wiki because it's just gathering facts - no?

And where exactly would the theories go? I suppose people would start having difficulties categorising their theories correctly. Difficult to separate "The Elven Pantheon" from "Connections To Other Deities" if you came up with a theory that... I dunno... explains how Mythal was born from metal particles washed out of The Stone through the voids of a loaded inverted filter, which particles were put together because Fen'Harel used his orb to channel the massive power of The Stone, which is actuelly a giant neural network powered by enslaving spirits from the Fade. (Yeah, I know, might even be true! ) Anyhow, even if this sentence made no sense: what category would that be?

[Kryllian]

 
Which is what leads me to my Friday night (or day, or whatever crazy Past or Future time zone you are in) question for you! Cos I know you guys enjoy talking about your Lavellan's
Did your Lavellan go through a personality change at all during their Inquisition time? Were they stoic from start to finish? Or did something happen along the way that made you change the way you played?

Personally, my Quizzy started out rather naive, mostly was at the Conclave out of curiosity, trying to get a feel for how the world was going to turn and if that would affect the clan at all. Thrown into the mess, she still clung to this naive way of thinking, trying to fix the world one person at a time. I think by the time she got to Halamshiral, she was exhausted from making everyone happy, and finally started getting jaded, and that came out in more snarky comments, quite a bit more sarcastic. But I think she retained an optimism that I certainly didn't share since I had fair warning that Solas would break her (my) heart. She continued to be lenient with most judgements, but there were some deeds she could no longer forgive and she began to see the darker side of life. I think any major personality changes would be seen post game since Solas has abandoned her and the inquisition will start to go there separate ways. She will always be an optimist, but no longer will have the patience for those who can't help themselves.

[Suketchi]

OMG, my first character I had to recreate three times. The first was because I accidentally picked the male option when I didn't intend to, go to the faces selection was surprised and restarted. The second time I hit the wrong button to customize the face so it just did all the default options ><  It was rough.

 

Also, yea I have made a male character to romance Dorian, I'll probably make another at some point to romance Cass as well. But yea, people using that statistic as proof of anything are quite flawed. I hope they release stats on what the most popular choice for a romance is, I'm super curious. I'm also curious about what the breakdown of classes/specializations is.

 

Cursed default option! I was so excited to start the game, I didn't notice the control changes until it was too late T_T 

 

I'd love to see the most popular romance and class/specialization choices, it would be interesting! Though I'd be willing to bet the most popular choice is something along the lines of 'Cullen and Mage' with varying specializations... probably has something to do with the lack of heartbreak in the end XD

[DrTeatime]

I regret nothing.

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[TanisLave]

he got a booty like a hourglass.

[DrTeatime]

Right, I should mention I didn't draw that or anything. It's just a shitty phottoshop job.

[Mims]

 

Did your Lavellan go through a personality change at all during their Inquisition time? Were they stoic from start to finish? Or did something happen along the way that made you change the way you played?

 

 

Very much so! Before the conclave, my Lavellan...was a bit of a brat. She developed magical talents at an early age, and for most of her life she has gotten a lot of attention from her parents and the keeper as she was groomed for eventual leadership. She was clever, so often times she was not corrected as harshly as she probably should have been. She was used to others deferring to her judgement. She loved drama. Dashana had a difficult time trying to mold her into a more compassionate leader, and part of the reason she sent her off to the conclave was to give Lavellan a taste of the outside world. Scare her a bit with the reality of their situation. War, even a war they had no stakes in, could destroy their clan and their family. And it wouldn't matter how smart Lavellan was. 

 

The lesson worked too well. Lavellan was cut off from her family, suddenly she was a prisoner with some sort of cursed mark on her hand. That terrified her. She couldn't control that sort of magic. To make matters worse, suddenly all these humans were looking to her for guidance, and I think only then it really settled into her just how terrifying leadership was. She resolved to be a bit more compassionate and thoughtful. It was her hope that when everything was over, she could return to her clan. 

 

But over time, she drew further and further away from that goal. She loved all the new things in the world, the new magic and ideas. She had always been a clever woman, and suddenly she had all this ample opportunity to direct herself in a way that actually helped people, rather than just causing drama. Even though she loved her people, at a certain point I think she knew she would never be able to turn away from the new life. 

 

Which was why the murder of her clan just destroyed her. It felt a lot like fate, even if she found herself no longer believing in the gods so strongly as she once did. She's resolved herself not to make the same mistakes with the Inquisition. And hopefully find a way that her position of power among the humans can be used to elevate elves further. 

[Avejajed]

O_O

Overkill.
I totally appreciate that.

I totally do not want to do that.

 

Okay, now seriously, that is a splendid structure. But I have no clue how to fill it with content. Many parts of this would probably end up in replicating content from the existing DA wiki because it's just gathering facts - no?

And where exactly would the theories go? I suppose people would start having difficulties categorising their theories correctly. Difficult to separate "The Elven Pantheon" from "Connections To Other Deities" if you came up with a theory that... I dunno... explains how Mythal was born from metal particles washed out of The Stone through the voids of a loaded inverted filter, which particles were put together because Fen'Harel used his orb to channel the massive power of The Stone, which is actuelly a giant neural network powered by enslaving spirits from the Fade. (Yeah, I know, might even be true! ) Anyhow, even if this sentence made no sense: what category would that be?

 

Theory is kept separate from Lore.

 

Lore is one organized area for codex entries. Similar (and mostly taken from) the actual wiki, but organized easier for cross referencing lore for theory building.

 

For instance, we could have all of the codex entries regarding the Pantheon on one page, easiest to follow. Or all of the codex entries on Fen'Harel and Solas on on page, making them easy to reference against codex entries that reference the same person, item or event.

 

Maybe Fen'Harels page and The Pantheon's page could even share certain codex entries, which would be okay, because we would get a clear and complete picture of all the available in-game lore referencing that particular category.

 

As for Theory, that's on its own. People can craft whatever theories they want, with linkage to the codex items (or in-game art, statues, etc). These can just be tagged- they don't even have to be particularly categorized, though it would help to have over-arching categories they think their theory would work best under. So we can see all the current theories about dwarves in one place, or whatever.

 

The chart is really just a visual to show how the lore portion of the wiki could be organized, but of course if it's too complex it can certainly be simplified. I find a well-organized webpage is easier all around to work with.

 

It'll take a lot of work and it wont be done right away, of course, but it would be beneficial in the long run if people continue to craft theories.

 

And yes, it really is just taking information from the other wiki, we would just be organizing it into a wiki that makes it easier for US. I find the actual wiki endlessly frustrating.

 

And of course this is all just my idea, I certainly am not the authority on how to organize wikis. I am happy to let someone else organize it.

[AryBoBary]

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I have nothing of substance to add, only, your frickin' signature...     

[AutumnOracle]

Going to join this list of recent additions.  I've been lurking since early December...but made a promise to not join until I had read all the lore, so I could catch up and follow along in the theory trail.  Suffice it to say this is me breaking my promise to myself.  

 

Ahhhh well...I am in Asunder, so only a few more books and I can't help it.  Some of the flycams and meme's are all that gets me through.

 

And as a throw in to what contributed to me finally posting, have the song that came up on my playlist.  Torn.  Throwback 90's.

[AryBoBary]

Going to join this list of recent additions.  I've been lurking since early December...but made a promise to not join until I had read all the lore, so I could catch up and follow along in the theory trail.  Suffice it to say this is me breaking my promise to myself.  

 

Ahhhh well...I am in Asunder, so only a few more books and I can't help it.  Some of the flycams and meme's are all that gets me through.

 

And as a throw in to what contributed to me finally posting, have the song that came up on my playlist.  Torn.  Throwback 90's.

 

[Illyria]

 

(http://textsfromthei...dad-are-walking)

 

So guess who figured out this 'image posting' thing?

[Kryllian]

 
I'd love to see the most popular romance and class/specialization choices, it would be interesting! Though I'd be willing to bet the most popular choice is something along the lines of 'Cullen and Mage' with varying specializations... probably has something to do with the lack of heartbreak in the end XD

Cullen was totally adorable too. The whole scene in the Chantry in Skyhold where he doesn't want to send you back out to face Corypheus gets me every time. I think though, despite the heartbreak, Solas felt more 'real'. Maybe it was all the time spent asking questions about the Fade and whatnot, but I felt much more in tune to his moods. I admit though, The Ironbull romance cracks me up and will always be something of a favorite.