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[Mims]

Huh?

 

Here:

 

Spoiler

[Sashimi_taco]

Nope, there is no red lyrium there.

 

Isn't there? I swear I walked by some. Making **** up in my head as usual.

 

lol

 

I just checked. There is some.

[Arlee]

Here:

 

Spoiler

I can't see it because I'm at work

[TanisLave]

Here:

 

Spoiler

 

That has to have something to do with whatever/whomever is trapped within the Eluvians, It's too creepy.

 

Reminds me of the whispers of that dwarf woman during the broodmother quest.

[Mims]

I can't see it because I'm at work

 

Oh! My apologies. It says:

 

Whispers Written in Red Lyrium

 

We are here

We have waited

We have slept

We are sundered

We are crippled

We are polluted

We endure

We wait

We have found the dreams again

We will awaken. 

 

It definitely does sound like it could have to do with the elven gods, or whatever Fen'Harel trapped. Maybe. 

[Hedinve]

I think recreating the wiki is a project worth keeping in mind, but maybe we should stick to the lore relevant to the theories at first? 

[Sable Rhapsody]

Oh! My apologies. It says:

 

Whispers Written in Red Lyrium

 

We are here

We have waited

We have slept

We are sundered

We are crippled

We are polluted

We endure

We wait

We have found the dreams again

We will awaken. 

 

It definitely does sound like it could have to do with the elven gods, or whatever Fen'Harel trapped. Maybe. 

 

It reminds me of the codex entry for the Profane from DA2:

 

We who are forgotten, remember,

We clawed at rock until our fingers bled,

We cried out for justice, but were unheard.

Our children wept in hunger,

And so we feasted upon the gods.

Here we wait, in aeons of silence.

We few, we profane.

[electricfish]

Not sure if anyone's seen all the concept arts of Abelas, but there is one where he has lots of horns growing out of his head like a dragon. Or.. Qunari. He obviously looks nothing like this in the game, but I thought it was really interesting and could add a bit of legitimacy to the theory that Qunari/Kossith are dragon people that were created by elves/Ghilan'nain.

Spoiler for size.

Spoiler

 

Additional question: Is Uthenara a state of being that can be taught, or was it intrinsic to ancient elves and was later lost? Inquiring minds ought to know, especially if anyone plans fanfics of Abelas x Inquisitor where she somehow "rediscovers" or is taught how to access Uthenara and is therefore immortal.

[LliiraAnna]

You could do it as a google doc! That way we'd all have access

 

I'm reading through the wiki and what is already posted there.

 

http://virdirthan.wi...ir'dirthan_Wiki

 

 

I'm gathering, from reading the comments already on the wiki, that re-creating the wiki may be a project people find unnecessary, which is fine. I thought it would be a worthwhile pursuit since so many of us have frustrations with the organization of the current wiki, but my goal is not to take over leadership or force anything down anyone's throat.

 

 

In which case the only thing that would need done is to craft theories and post them. They can be categorized later.

I think I'll still do this. Even if we won't need them at the wiki, categorized codex entries could still be useful. I'll upload them as soon as I'll get at least some substantial part of the work done, and will update it as needed. Hope that'll help someone.   

 

Edit: I wonder if it's better to upload it in parts. "Elves", "Humans", etc.

[madrar]

I really, really hate to do this, but before we jump in and commit wholesale, I'm going to take a second to see if there's not a better wiki option out there: one where we can dig around in the design guts and give admin rights to anyone we feel like giving them to.  The more I try to work with wikia, the more the ads, workflow, and general hideousness grate on me.  

[Arlee]

Oh! My apologies. It says:

 

Whispers Written in Red Lyrium

 

We are here

We have waited

We have slept

We are sundered

We are crippled

We are polluted

We endure

We wait

We have found the dreams again

We will awaken. 

 

It definitely does sound like it could have to do with the elven gods, or whatever Fen'Harel trapped. Maybe. 

 

Oh, I always took that to mean it was written like on paper in red lyrium like it was ink. Which I guess technically would be red lyrium there. But I thought the question was more if like there was a chunk of it there like there is in some of the other areas. I don't recall that being there, and I'd think it would stick out like a sore thumb because of how red/green contrast. I could have misunderstood the question though.

[Avejajed]

I really, really hate to do this, but before we jump in and commit wholesale, I'm going to take a second to see if there's not a better wiki option out there: one where we can dig around in the design guts and give admin rights to anyone we feel like giving them to. The more I try to work with wikia, the more the ads, workflow, and general hideousness grate on me.

I think a website of some kind would be easier, personally. Something with nesting options. There has to be something.

[Avejajed]

Oh, I always took that to mean it was written like on paper in red lyrium like it was ink. Which I guess technically would be red lyrium there. But I thought the question was more if like there was a chunk of it there like there is in some of the other areas. I don't recall that being there, and I'd think it would stick out like a sore thumb because of how red/green contrast. I could have misunderstood the question though.

I'm pretty sure there are big chunks there.

[Siha]

I'm gathering, from reading the comments already on the wiki, that re-creating the wiki may be a project people find unnecessary, which is fine. I thought it would be a worthwhile pursuit since so many of us have frustrations with the organization of the current wiki, but my goal is not to take over leadership or force anything down anyone's throat.

 

 

In which case the only thing that would need done is to craft theories and post them. They can be categorized later.

No, go ahead. If the existing wiki is insufficient, copy the contents to the new wiki and organise them in a more suitable fashion.

And people should start copying their theories that already exist. To gather them quickly. The more theories are together in one spot, the simpler it might be to assign them to categories and build a hierarchy. I assume that many have already been forgotten, burried under a few hundred pages.

[Mims]

Nah, you actually click on a giant piece of lyrium to get that message. It might be etched into the stone, or maybe its just the whispers you hear when you go near it. Definitely a ton of lyrium there. 

 

 

 

It reminds me of the codex entry for the Profane from DA2:

 

We who are forgotten, remember,

We clawed at rock until our fingers bled,

We cried out for justice, but were unheard.

Our children wept in hunger,

And so we feasted upon the gods.

Here we wait, in aeons of silence.

We few, we profane.

 

 

Very good point! I'll have to do some research on them. I don't remember them as well as I probably should. 

[Arlee]

Nah, you actually click on a giant piece of lyrium to get that message. It might be etched into the stone, or maybe its just the whispers you hear when you go near it. Definitely a ton of lyrium there. 

 

Well hell, now I have to go back and watch because idk how I didn't remember that. Thanks

[Siha]

http://en.wikipedia....osting_services

=> Wikispaces, maybe?

 

 

I really, really hate to do this, but before we jump in and commit wholesale, I'm going to take a second to see if there's not a better wiki option out there: one where we can dig around in the design guts and give admin rights to anyone we feel like giving them to.  The more I try to work with wikia, the more the ads, workflow, and general hideousness grate on me.  

If somebody has webspace at hand we could get some open source PHP wiki and set it up there. Though a free online tool is usually simpler (less overhead).

 

[Janic99]

I will repost my video for those who have not seen it because of the time difference

[Ajna]

Not sure if anyone's seen all the concept arts of Abelas, but there is one where he has lots of horns growing out of his head like a dragon. Or.. Qunari. He obviously looks nothing like this in the game, but I thought it was really interesting and could add a bit of legitimacy to the theory that Qunari/Kossith are dragon people that were created by elves/Ghilan'nain.

Spoiler for size.

Spoiler

 

Additional question: Is Uthenara a state of being that can be taught, or was it intrinsic to ancient elves and was later lost? Inquiring minds ought to know, especially if anyone plans fanfics of Abelas x Inquisitor where she somehow "rediscovers" or is taught how to access Uthenara and is therefore immortal.

 

I wonder if it's Flemeth-y hair...

[bunniebean]

    This. Wake me when Solas comes back.

[kalasaurus]

I'll be a copy cat and also repost my other most recent video (hehe, sorry ).  It's so easy for stuff to get buried in this thread.

 

[HurricaneGinger]

EDIT: Sorry, some of this is jumbled because of my anti-anxiety meds. They make me a bit loopy. XD

 

For the project: I still think it would be great to have a place for fan theories. An admin of that theory updates with new findings or voids it due to strong evidence to the contrary. Perhaps even a section that analyzes the Dragon Age tarot. We have the wiki already that gives us facts, we need a place where we can look up theories - shuffling through here and tumblr is time-consuming and disorganized. 

 

BTW Found a Solas/Lavellen song:

 

 

Lyrics

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Somewhere, far away from here
I saw stars, stars that I could reach (yeah)
It was a midnight, a silent twilight
Fell down, beyond the ocean beach (yeah)

I assemble all the sand that cover wedding beaches
To build a castle so your mom would have a place to stay
Behind the water slide and down the hill where heaven reaches
Land and time is left to float away (yeah)

So rest assured I have the key to every opening
To every wishing well deep that's enough to drink (drink)
I want to show you just how fascinating kissing is
When earth collides with all the space between (yeah)

I'm reaching farther than I ever have before
Leaving all who broke your heart upon the shore
I may be some sort of crazy
We may be some sort of crazy
But I swear on everything I have and more

So never look behind, there's spooky people breathing down
The world is ending there's a party by the bay
I'll wear my suit and tie, would I and I toss into
The way you put that smile upon my face (yeah)

Fill up the air balloon and ride with me
Yeah hell is just a parade (parade)
Make love like time and space Is ending
While befriending fade while luring way of putting us to shame

I'm reaching farther than I ever have before
Leaving all who broke your heart upon the shore
I may be some sort of crazy
We may be some sort of crazy
But I swear on everything I have and more

You make the sound of pulling heaven down
You brought the rain's romantic pour
You make the sound
You make the sound
Of pulling heaven down

I'm reaching farther than I ever have before
(god I've reached the top)
Leaving all who broke your heart upon the shore
I may be some sort of crazy
We may be some sort of crazy
But I swear on everything I have and more
(go go go go)

I'm reaching farther than I ever have before
(god I've reached the top)
Leaving all who broke your heart upon the shore
I may be some sort of crazy
We may be some sort of crazy
But I swear on everything I have and more
(go go go go)

[madrar]

*throws a pile of papers into the air dramatically*

 

AUGH.  Why doesn't anything simply do what we need it to do?   Something like Google docs might have its uses, but anyone who wanted to contribute would have to have an account, be invited to the group, etc, etc.  Same for pretty much any wiki.  Which yes, is good if we ever have to worry about random idiots passing through and deleting things wholesale for kicks, but until then is just an irritating speedbump to get everyone on the same page.  

 

No time for custom software, though I'm damn tempted to whip up something simple in perl or java and just host it locally.  We need nesting.  We need cross-linking.  We need collaborative tools that allow people who have the same basic idea but differ on one or two tiny points to share a page, make their point, and not have 1000 separate versions of "Yes, Solas is Fen'Harel, but..." clogging up the system.

 

Ave, I'm kind of looking at you.  @w@  Does anything out there look more useful than wikia?

[Ajna]

I will repost my video for those who have not seen it because of the time difference

 

Yeah ok, this gave me all the feels...

[electricfish]

I wonder if it's Flemeth-y hair...

That was my first thought. Flemythal has her hair styled into horns, but the concept has them actually looking like horns. We should probably take with a grain of salt since it's unused concept only, but I'm still wondering if it would have been natural, or somehow a result of Abelas being bound to Mythal.