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ZerebusPrime

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Hm, does Kieran have a soul now? Or did he have two all along? 

 

One would assume two.  He'd be dead or tranquil in this sort of setting if his human soul were ripped out without some form of magic to animate him (such as the Blight or a spirit).

 

Also, Morrigan would have freaked out if he were soulless now.



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I imagine he had two. He was conceived the night before the battle. And I doubt Flemeth would have left her grandson soulless. 



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The ME drama was terrible.  And there were individuals who fomented it on purpose, playing all sides against each other including the moderators.  Also, the Liara thread.  Indoctrination Theorists had to jump ship despite having a solid case (yes, even after every successive DLC where people said that BioWare canned the Idoc Theory, the case actually only grew stronger --- loud naysayers can work faster than theorycrafters can dive into new material to research it properly).

 

This thread is better.  Just as many tinfoil hats but none of the drama.

 

Speaking of tinfoil hat ideas, I noticed footage of Abelas getting killed earlier today and saw that he had the same smokey eyes that Solas does after he "kills" Flemmeth.  Implications?  I have no idea.

That'll change when we become emotionally distraught as that time. Also.. what happened in the liara thread?



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I did the whole series all in one go after everything already came out. They had that trilogy release with the dlc. So nice not having to suffer for ages between games, like I am now waiting to find out what happens to Solas :(

The wait after Origins, for Awakening wasn't too terrible.  And then the wait for DA2 after Awakening was doable.  The wait this time (after a paltry 2 months), ugggh I am going crazy!  :lol:

 

It's that damn stinger at the end.  What a cliffhanger.  As someone that had no idea what was coming, I sat at my screen with my mouth hanging open for a few minutes.  Keep in mind I was one of those poor unfortunate souls that ran right to the end after the final romance scene.  I was a mess.  

 

Damn you Solas!


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Hm, does Kieran have a soul now? Or did he have two all along? 

Depends. He definitely has his own soul + 1 extra IF the Dark Ritual was performed. If he's just a normal kid because of romance with the male warden, then obviously he has his own soul there as well.



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ZerebusPrime

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Also.. what happened in the liara thread?

 

Blue babies.  And the manufacturing thereof. 



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Ok I just now caught up with this thread and I saw that some amazing people are doing a website thing to keep track of the theory-crafting? I have just finished my complete and comprehensive biochemical analysis of magic in Thedas, but I don't really wan't to post it here because it's REALLY long. I have no life. I know.

I have made alterations and corrections to my Kossith theory after @Caddius pointed out some of the flaws regarding the Kocari Wilds colony. I have also updated my thermodynamic theory to be inclusionary of those infected with red lyrium.  Would the new theory wiki be the proper place to post it?

 

oooh.  This is good stuff.  @w@  

 

And yeah, you can put it anywhere.  That's the beauty of the wiki- we can build an organizational structure to get at things that's separate from the actual... things.  So just stick stuff anywhere- the important part is getting it all out.  (Oh!  And go crazy with the tags, so people can search on a term and get back everything associated with "Magic Theory" or "Abelas" or "Weird Physics", etc, etc.) 

 

Is everyone on board with wikispaces instead of wikia?  If so, I'll just yank over the pages to put everything in one place.



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Welp, I am sure this has something to do with impending menopause, but I got all teary again just now, this time in the Temple of Dumat.

 

When listening to most of Corypheus' memory crystals, all I could think was that it sounded just like what the Dread Wolf must have thought when he woke up:  The world sucks now, I am alone, only I can see what needs to be done.  :(

 

Man, I need to either get out more, start aging backwards, stop working the oncology floor, or all of the above.


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oooh.  This is good stuff.  @w@  

 

And yeah, you can put it anywhere.  That's the beauty of the wiki- we can build an organizational structure to get at things that's separate from the actual... things.  So just stick stuff anywhere- the important part is getting it all out.  (Oh!  And go crazy with the tags, so people can search on a term and get back everything associated with "Magic Theory" or "Abelas" or "Weird Physics", etc, etc.) 

 

Is everyone on board with wikispaces instead of wikia?  If so, I'll just yank over the pages to put everything in one place.

 

Thanks!

 

I posted my full "theory" on this site, because I noticed there are two different websites that people are using - http://virdirthan.wikispaces.com

I also referenced one of your theories, but I don't know how to insert a link so I can link your theory in my post. This was a great idea, thanks for doing it!



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Depends. He definitely has his own soul + 1 extra IF the Dark Ritual was performed. If he's just a normal kid because of romance with the male warden, then obviously he has his own soul there as well.

 

On that note, what do you all think Kieran's OGS "special ability" is? Andruil's seems to be marksmanship (and a penchant for chaos), Sandal-June has craft, Dirthamen-Solas has the ability to take Secrets from peoples' minds, Falon'Din-Solas can redirect souls via the Fade (theoretically)...

 

He seems to have an immediate, fundamental understanding of a being's nature.  Like, at a genetic level.

 

Pretty solid fit for Ghilain'nain? That would match Urthemiel, right?

 

#1  Dumat - Dirthamen

#2  Zazikel - Andruil

#3  Toth - ???  ....Sylaise?  Elgar'nan?  Bad news for Team Freedom either way.

#4  Andoral - June

#5  Urthemiel - Ghilan'nain



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The ME drama was terrible. And there were individuals who fomented it on purpose, playing all sides against each other including the moderators. Also, the Liara thread. Indoctrination Theorists had to jump ship despite having a solid case (yes, even after every successive DLC where people said that BioWare canned the Idoc Theory, the case actually only grew stronger --- loud naysayers can work faster than theorycrafters can dive into new material to research it properly).

This thread is better. Just as many tinfoil hats but none of the drama.

Speaking of tinfoil hat ideas, I noticed footage of Abelas getting killed earlier today and saw that he had the same smokey eyes that Solas does after he "kills" Flemmeth. Implications? I have no idea.

Perhaps it's the visual representation of Mythal's power/energy.While Solas' appears to be greenish.

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I assumed whatever Abelas was using is fundamentally different then Mythal's actual power, and just a ability he had use of due to him being a "gatekeeper" to the well, so to speak. 



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On that note, what do you all think Kieran's OGS "special ability" is? Andruil's seems to be marksmanship (and a penchant for chaos), Sandal-June has craft, Dirthamen-Solas has the ability to take Secrets from peoples' minds, Falon'Din-Solas can redirect souls via the Fade (theoretically)...

 

He seems to have an immediate, fundamental understanding of a being's nature.  Like, at a genetic level.

 

Pretty solid fit for Ghilain'ain? That would match Urthemiel, right?

 

#1  Dumat - Dirthamen

#2  Zazikel - Andruil

#3  Toth - ???  ....Sylaise?

#4  Andoral - June

#5  Urthemiel - Ghil

 

Speaking of Gihlan'nain (spelling confirmed against the active game next to me), I just took Sera, female elf Inquis, and Solas into Gihlan'nain's Grove.  Sera gets the shivers and Solas asks her what she's feeling.  Sera replies that it's like she's seen all of this before, only differently (ie the scenery has aged compared to her memory).  She then refutes it being an "elfy thing" because the Inquisitor isn't shaking, too.  Sera is just different.  Cue Solas saying that Sera *is* different: she is the furthest thing from what she was meant to be.

 

Now I wonder what Solas thinks Sera was meant to be.  I also wonder if an Archdemon slain could shatter into more than one soul, given your identifying Urthemiel as Gihlan'nain and Sera's proximity to Urthemiel when the latter was killed. 



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I timed the Wicked Grace scene just right.

Since Solas doesn't attend the game, it feels like the gang took Aithne out for drinks to cheer her up after getting dumped. <3
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I dunno man, the theory for Sera being Andruil has alot of water. But It's going to be weird to just be like "Oops we had 2 gods in the inquisition, randomly."


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I assumed whatever Abelas was using is fundamentally different then Mythal's actual power, and just a ability he had use of due to him being a "gatekeeper" to the well, so to speak.

I don't think he used Mythal's actual power tbh,more like Mythal's magic.In the same sense that the anchor is Fen'harel's magic.

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I dunno man, the theory for Sera being Andruil has alot of water. But It's going to be weird to just be like "Oops we had 2 gods in the inquisition, randomly."

The "Oops" combined with your avatar had me reading that quote in Dorian's voice. 


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Hm, does Kieran have a soul now? Or did he have two all along? 

like all children, Kieran is a soulless creature bent on destroying everything good in the world

 

I mean yes I did just get home from a screening of Monty Python's Holy Grail at the Alamo Drafthouse and I'm four beers deep but I also dislike children like woop woop 


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I hadn't seen this codex entry on Falon'Din before! Here it is beneath a spoiler tag:
Spoiler

 

 

Hmm.  Can't get on board with reddit guy.  Seems to me like his reasoning is deeply flawed- starting with Mythal "piloting" one of the OGS dragons (as if she would need to, or could even if she wanted to) and just spiraling downward from there.  Falon'din as Lucascan is fine, and there's a decent chance he's right about Toth.  The rest?  ...no.

 

As for the "wings of death" surrounding Falon'Din, I took that as an oblique reference to the black wings of Dirthamen's ravens, Fear and Deceit: the tools he uses in the fade to twist the dreams of men.  

 

...no?



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Spoiler
 

 

Obviously, I haven't read TME yet, but I'm just wondering....

Spoiler

 

Sorry, I'm just really interested in this character. :P



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By the way, there's a dirty/Solas-themed Cards Against Thedas game going on:

 

http://pyx-1.pretend...ame.jsp#game=90

WHAT IS THE PASSWORD



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