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He has less content in general than the other companions.  It's not just romance content.  It's also easy to burn through all of his conversations not long after getting to Skyhold.  I always make the same mistake with Dorian as well.  I really need to stop talking to Dorian so much, long before midway he has nothing left for me, once his personal quest is finished.  

 

I think the biggest culprit in causing confusion is the assumption that all of the companions have equal amounts of content and dialogue.

 

In regards to Solas, I think it's deliberate.  Whether you romance him or not, in light of the reveal of his identity, they might have decided to hold back on letting the players know too much.  Plus people already feel like they were betrayed and he was just lying and manipulating the Inquisitor.  More content might have made that reaction even more strong.  

 

It sucks, I know.  Especially if you like Solas.  And I like Solas.  Not because of only the romance, I just enjoy the character in general.  The lack of a repeatable fluff scene doesn't bother me too much.  I know that if I want a romance that has more of that there's multiple options in the game.  Cullen's romance was very satisfying in that regard.  I haven't finished Iron Bull's romance yet, but I like that one too.  I like variety, and when you make everything equal for every character so that it's fair and even, I dunno it doesn't always work as well as you think it would.  The Solas romance isn't for everyone.  I know there are folks that look at us that repeatedly choose Solas for LI like we're nuts.  Why on earth would you go back again and romance the guy that ruins your face and leaves you?  He has less content and no fluff scene, gross what a terrible romance!  I know right, we must be off our meds! :P  Yikes that paragraph got away from me, sorry.

 

It's 3:20am here, I really should be sleeping, lol.  Sorry for rambling.

 

Thank you for the response, I know I get rambly at 3 am too, but you're perfectly coherent.

 

I think my biggest problem is that I felt more (except for the vallaslin/break up scene of course because feels) for Solas as a friend. I feel like I had more meaningful content with him in my first 3 playthroughs with him as another companion than while I was romancing him. Which I think is a problem, nad slightly unfair.

 

I do still think he's an incredible character, but I felt his romance arc is severely lacking.

 

*Note to any lurkers: I'm trying to be really respectful here and convey my disappointment without bashing BioWare or offending anyone, so please don't be upset that I preferred Bull's romance. <3



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sad lavellan <3 T__T


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Thank you for the response, I know I get rambly at 3 am too, but you're perfectly coherent.

 

I think my biggest problem is that I felt more (except for the vallaslin/break up scene of course because feels) for Solas as a friend. I feel like I had more meaningful content with him in my first 3 playthroughs with him as another companion than while I was romancing him. Which I think is a problem, nad slightly unfair.

 

I do still think he's an incredible character, but I felt his romance arc is severely lacking.

 

*Note to any lurkers: I'm trying to be really respectful here and convey my disappointment without bashing BioWare or offending anyone, so please don't be upset that I preferred Bull's romance. <3

No worries, not offended!  We all have our preferences, and that's great.  Would never be bothered by someone preferring one romance to another.

 

I think I would feel differently about the Solas romance if I hadn't done it first, to be honest.  Don't get me wrong, I really do wish we could have had at least one more scene.  Or not had most of the romance scenes also be part of scenes everyone gets.  I know he was added late as a romance in that year they pushed the game back.  So I try to keep that in mind so I don't let my disappointment go too far.


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Easy way to get around this, it's a war table tied cutscene, so wait until after the breakup.

 

Then you can canon that the gang took you out for drinks to cheer you up after getting dumped.

 

I definitely must do this. 

 

It sucks, I know.  Especially if you like Solas.  And I like Solas.  Not because of only the romance, I just enjoy the character in general.  The lack of a repeatable fluff scene doesn't bother me too much.  I know that if I want a romance that has more of that there's multiple options in the game.  Cullen's romance was very satisfying in that regard.  I haven't finished Iron Bull's romance yet, but I like that one too.  I like variety, and when you make everything equal for every character so that it's fair and even, I dunno it doesn't always work as well as you think it would.  The Solas romance isn't for everyone.  I know there are folks that look at us that repeatedly choose Solas for LI like we're nuts.  Why on earth would you go back again and romance the guy that ruins your face and leaves you?  He has less content and no fluff scene, gross what a terrible romance!  I know right, we must be off our meds! :P  Yikes that paragraph got away from me, sorry.

 

It's 3:20am here, I really should be sleeping, lol.  Sorry for rambling.

 

haha ikr? 2:00 AM here. I can barely type, let me know if I say anything weird lol

 

*sigh* us crazy Solasmancers. My little brother asked me, "So if Zevran and Solas were in one game, who would you pick?" (way to ask the hard questions bro) and I said I'd have to wait until the end of the game just in case. Weeeell, I finish the game, and as the credits are rolling a tears are pouring down my face I manage to wail "I CHOOSE SOLAS *sob*" and he looks at me like I'm crazy XD "But he dumped you!". I'm like, "Hey, I'm just as confused as you are!" ...as heartbreaking as the Solas romance is, I don't think I could ever romance anyone else in Dragon Age again <3


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...Well, I made it to 2:30 AM. I need sleep or else I'll start posting some really ​weird stuff in my sleep-deprived state XD

 

fingers crossed for another Solas dream <3

 

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Am I not Solasmancer-ing enough that I'm not dreaming about it? How much are you thinking about Solas that you dream about it?


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Aw I'm sorry! *hugs*

 

Being a horrible person, I'm kinda glad you feel the same way regarding that particular line though. It's not fun being this anxious about a fictional character alone. :(

 

*yells to the Dragon Age gods*

Could we please get a post-epilogue letter from Solas? No art assets or voice acting necessary! Here's an example:

 

Dear Vhenan,

 

Sorry to leave so suddenly, but I have a few minor things to take care of. Please don't concern yourself - I'm still the geeky Fade mage you know and adore. My personality has certainly not been altered in any way, shape, or form by absorbing the essence of an ancient elven goddess bent on heaven-shaking vengeance.

 

The Fade is really lovely this time of year. I'm definitely not here trying to tear down the Veil, or free ancient bloodthirsty gods, or any other insane plan that will surely have catastrophic consequences for all of Thedas. Don't worry, I'll be back to Skyhold before you know it! And when I return, it definitely won't be with army of newly awakened ancient elves ready to kill anyone or anything standing my way, including you.

 

Love and sloppy kisses,

Solas

 

Hmmm, this inspires me.

 

I'm sorry but I just had to share this. x'D

 

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Source: http://machakizi.tum...from-dragon-age

 

This reminds me of a Hungarian saying, that "one can look at the sun, but not at you" (implying they're so beautiful; the original is "a napra lehet nézni de rád nem"). Yep. Spot on.

 

Eh. I think the twilight thing is funny. We have made jokes on here relating to it. I can see the perspective of people who make some parallels for twilight. I may not have read the books and only watched one movie. People say twilight because it's one of the most notable cases of "Powerful Being falling for a Mortal" in pop culture. In twilight, edward at the beginning tried to keep vampire thing a secret and sucked at it. He watches bella while she sleeps just like Solas watching you while you sleep when studying the ancher. Edward always pushes Bella away because of the danger he could cause, just as Solas wanted to push Lavellan away. Edward is immortal and acts like from a different time, Solas is immortal and also acts like he's from a different time.

 

And yes, the racist fade nerd is pretty close, though prejudice is closer. And those things you pointed out? Not important if you didn't romanced him. It's as big of a deal as Cassandra fans fawning over her being a Divine. 

 

Also I think Alistair is lame at jokes and whines alot. Zevran rules.

 

Oh, no. No, no, no. I reject any Twilight comparison. While there are vague similarities, there is no real basis for comparing them - the meaning, the implications, the tangibility of the components of the romance are all absent from Twilight. You'd have to dig so far back into the brick and mortar that the essence would be utterly obsolete by the time you get there. Twilight is using a particular framework that thousands upon thousands of romance tales over the ages have used, yet that does not make them all equal, far from it; the real difference is always in the core substance of the story, the sojourn it takes you on - is there something more to it? Does it have a message? Does it evoke more than surface emotions, impressions? Is there a complexity in the characters that is completely independent of their romantic journey?

 

*forcibly stops rant*

 

I will try to be amused by this. I will try very hard.

 

It's so unfair - every night I've been in owl mode, and now it's Friday and I'm sleepy. And DAI crashed. *sigh*

 

Sorry everyone about the ranting. I love everyone here, don't let them tell you otherwise.

 

Music! https://www.youtube....h?v=bUIElvJRyNU This. Completely this.

 

Also here's a fun lurking Solas picture! There I was, innocently contemplating the task before my male Lavellan, and LO! I feel like I'm being watched by a wolf.  :ph34r:

Spoiler

 

 

...Maybe I should sleep sometime. I've heard it cures this kind of madness.


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I'd just like to say that I'm actually highly allergic to Twilight...
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I certainly don't see any parallels to Twilight, Solas' romance might involve deceit at a fundamental level but it's not an abusive mess like Twilight.


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I'd just like to say that I'm actually highly allergic to Twilight...

I grew up with girls liking twilight to the point of obsession. "Watch the movie" they say,  "It's not just romance, there's action" they say. I try my best to make light of it by liking the opposite of what they like. Go team Werewolves-who-aren't-real-werewolves-but-are-Native-American-Shapeshifters-that-can-only-shapeshift-into-wolves. 

 

The "what we do in the shadows" was a pretty good and close to accurate mockumentary of vampires and werewolves.


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And here I am, joining the army of all you Solas fans out there...  

 

I admit - without any torture necessary - I'm stuck on this guy! Hook, line and sinker.  :wub:


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He has less content in general than the other companions.  It's not just romance content.

Actually, when looking at those "full .... romance/content" videos on YouTube, Solas gets more than an hour (65 min or the like), while the others have less screen time. Cullen only adds up to 40 minutes or something. He has all those Fade stories and so on. He contributes more than others in missions if you take him along.

Anyway, there is the lack of a kissing/hugging cutscene, but maybe that was intentional? Like keeping a little barrier to stress his seclusion and reticence (and maybe to limit pain when the final break up scene hits)? Also, it might have felt weird to trigger that scene a few times and then have him break up with you, even more abruptly than he does already.


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I grew up with girls liking twilight to the point of obsession. "Watch the movie" they say,  "It's not just romance, there's action" they say. I try my best to make light of it by liking the opposite of what they like. Go team Werewolves-who-aren't-real-werewolves-but-are-Native-American-Shapeshifters-that-can-only-shapeshift-into-wolves. 

 

The "what we do in the shadows" was a pretty good and close to accurate mockumentary of vampires and werewolves.

 

I really try not to groan when people bring it up to me in that... fanatical tone of voice. I still remember a time not so very long ago when being obsessed with vampires was weird and terrifying. Back then I would have expected anyone who knows anything about vampires to invite me to a game of World of Darkness. Now I don't dare bring up the subject for fear of running into Twilight and being goaded into giving it a scathing analysis.


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...Well, I made it to 2:30 AM. I need sleep or else I'll start posting some really ​weird stuff in my sleep-deprived state XD

 

fingers crossed for another Solas dream <3

 

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But you know.. when mages dream they go into the fade.. maybe what we see is real after all and Solas comes to meet us through our dreams XD

LOL 

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Here have a surprised Solas:
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I really try not to groan when people bring it up to me in that... fanatical tone of voice. I still remember a time not so very long ago when being obsessed with vampires was weird and terrifying. Back then I would have expected anyone who knows anything about vampires to invite me to a game of World of Darkness. Now I don't dare bring up the subject for fear of running into Twilight and being goaded into giving it a scathing analysis.

My favorite quark about vampires is that they have to have permission to enter your home. How polite.


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All of these flycam shots of the romance scenes that are going around tumblr are killing me.

 

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http://ineffableigor...aps-of-the-same

 

/has a weakness for headbumps

 

Nope, you didn't miss anything. You get the final romance scene after What Pride Has Wrought.

I too have a weakness for headbumps ever since:

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That was my first epic romance obsession. I feel old now...

 

Solas and Flemythal totally reminded me of that scene. It's my favorite love gesture in the world. Also, Scully tracing Mulder's lips with her thumbs in season 7 was awesome.So tender and so hot too. That romanced almost killed me. Nine years, nine fu*king years. But at least there was a happy ending.


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My favorite quark about vampires is that they have to have permission to enter your home. How polite.

 

Hahaha, yes. Tsk, tsk. Well, we can't have impolite vampires, now can we? :D

 

I too have a weakness for headbumps ever since:

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That was my first epic romance obsession. I feel old now...

 

Solas and Flemythal totally reminded me of that scene. It's my favorite love gesture in the world. Also, Scully tracing Mulder's lips with her thumbs in season 7 was awesome.So tender and so hot too. That romanced almost killed me. Nine years, nine fu*king years. But at least there was a happy ending.

 

Aww! I can completely relate.


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So I was mucking around with flycam today in my post-ending save. Remember that symbol we see on the walls of Kirkwall all the time? Well... I found something in Solas's room.

 

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It looks like some sort of scroll... or a letter. With that symbol on it. One more reason to believe that symbol is used for rebellion? Fen'Harel symbol?

 

When I first saw it I was all "HOLY CRAP DLC???", like maybe Solas left that for the Inquisitor post-ending? So naturally I clocked back on my earliest save to confirm. Alas, it's been sitting in that bucket ever since you got to Skyhold. Still, it's interesting that he has it at all. What do you think it is? What do you think it means?



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So I was mucking around with flycam today in my post-ending save. Remember that symbol we see on the walls of Kirkwall all the time? Well... I found something in Solas's room.

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It looks like some sort of scroll... or a letter. With that symbol on it. One more reason to believe that symbol is used for rebellion? Fen'Harel symbol?

When I first saw it I was all "HOLY CRAP DLC???", like maybe Solas left that for the Inquisitor post-ending? So naturally I clocked back on my earliest save to confirm. Alas, it's been sitting in that bucket ever since you got to Skyhold. Still, it's interesting that he has it at all. What do you think it is? What do you think it means?


It *could* be a document that he updates as the relationship progresses... I.e. "all the things I can't tell you" written in some flowery cipher that he plans to give you the key to once he's about ready to leave, with instructions in case he fails, you're a backup. But also in romance he'd say all that he cannot allow himself to now.

*Verrin*
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I really hope it's a lead for some sort of Solas-related DLC. It can't just be there for no reason... right...? :crying:


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Regarding Reddit comparing the Solasmance to Twilight: There's not nearly enough endless hours of expressionlessly staring at each other for the Solas Romance to be considered even remotely like Twilight.

So. Whatever.

And when it comes to vampires, I'll take Alucard (SotN and LoD version), Angel, Beckett (V:TM), and even Lestat. Will more than happily leave the Twilight ones to the ladies who have a glitter and angst fetish.
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With that symbol on it. One more reason to believe that symbol is used for rebellion? Fen'Harel symbol?

Far as I know it's a dragon. I can't tell you where I read that, though it's sure looked like a dragon to me ever since. So I have been wearing it around my neck believing it was a dragon for ... awhile now.

Not making an educated guess about any deeper meaning though.


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So I was mucking around with flycam today in my post-ending save. Remember that symbol we see on the walls of Kirkwall all the time? Well... I found something in Solas's room.

 

DragonAgeInquisition2015-01-1719-06-39-4

 

It looks like some sort of scroll... or a letter. With that symbol on it. One more reason to believe that symbol is used for rebellion? Fen'Harel symbol?

 

When I first saw it I was all "HOLY CRAP DLC???", like maybe Solas left that for the Inquisitor post-ending? So naturally I clocked back on my earliest save to confirm. Alas, it's been sitting in that bucket ever since you got to Skyhold. Still, it's interesting that he has it at all. What do you think it is? What do you think it means?

 

 

Uh... Isn't that a message from one of the workers saying that Solas has been doing the paintings in the room and expressing admiration for him...



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I never asked but were are you guys finding on reddit post of sola romance being compared to Twilight?