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[Rabbitonfire]

Its like saying reading a crime novel is going to make you a criminal. Sure, twilight might be the junk food of literature, but at least people are reading. One day maybe they'll pick up a good book. Or they'll decide to write their own book or fanfiction. 

This is funny but that's how I got into art. I watched too much CSI, wanted to get into forensics. Friends draw anime bodies for their forensic papers, I didn't like it. So I studied human anatomy for a month to draw a more anatomically accurate dead bodies. Funny how far you could go just to prove a point.

 

edit: I draw the living nowadays.

[TanisLave]

Art time!

 

Ugh! Poor Solas. ;___; 

Smiley Solas is adorable though.

 

 

Source: http://mabiruna.tumb...-solas-found-it

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Source: http://blueberry-me....ation-507504346

 

My heart will crack If he ends up looking like that Middle/cursed type picture in the center.

 

Just no. 

[Rabbitonfire]

My heart will crack If he ends up looking like that Middle/cursed type picture in the center.

 

Just no. 

But he did look like that in the future due to being caged with red lyrium. He was dying. That one rebel mage quest.

[CapricornSun]

Can I just show off some shots of Solas in his tangerine/carrot robes? (These are actually some of my more decent phone pics of my TV so, YAY! xD)

 

Spoiler

 

 

 

And a shot of my (barefaced) Tala in her Dalish Scout Armor because, why not?

 

Spoiler

[Sah291]

I never really got into Twilight when it was out, but...the whole tragic/can't be together romance trope is older than dirt and has been done so many times long before Twilight... Twilight is just a recent example in pop culture, so I guess we get the comparisons.  I think people who criticize it for being too Twilight-ish just haven't read or seen enough stories? Everyone always thinks their generation invented everything. 

[TanisLave]

But he did look like that in the future due to being caged with red lyrium. He was dying. That one rebel mage quest.

GUESS WHO DIDN'T BRING HIM FOR THAT.

 

This girll.

[Eivuwan]

 

I think perhaps Meredith wanted to think she's like Andraste. Maybe that headgear just looks like it's cool and powerful so flemeth has it too. Maybe it's some ancient symbol of authority.

 

Edit: Oh, only the Flemeth pic got quoted. The original post had a pic of Andraste and Meredith looking the same.

[CapricornSun]

So... when I was taking pictures of Solas in his Battlemage Mail (don't remember the exact name but it is some variant of it), Cassandra suddenly piped in about the vallaslin again.    (This must be the 5th or 6th time now. I'm keeping tabs.)

 

Spoiler

 

 

 

 

Ugh! My heart... 

[TanisLave]

So... when I was taking pictures of Solas in his Battlemage Mail (don't remember the exact name but it is some variant of it), Cassandra suddenly piped in about the vallaslin again.    (This must be the 5th or 6th time now. I'm keeping tabs.)

 

Spoiler

 

 

 

 

Ugh! My heart... 

 

The ritual requires you to break up immediately after, It's so obivous now. 

[TheComfyCat]

As someone who has little to no interest in the twilight books [but did watch most of the films in connection to riftrax]...it is time for the twilight circlejerk to come to an end. I somewhat dislike the notion that girls and women aren't capable of distinguishing fiction from reality. Like anyone who reads twilight is now doomed to having problematic relationships for the rest of their lives.

Its like saying reading a crime novel is going to make you a criminal. Sure, twilight might be the junk food of literature, but at least people are reading. One day maybe they'll pick up a good book. Or they'll decide to write their own book or fanfiction.

Whether or not Solas romance is 'twilight' romance is a null point. You can certainly critique things you don't like about the particular romance. I could certainly say a few things that turn me off from Bull's or Blackwall's. But when you get to the point that you're saying: 'all fans of this romance are X', you've destroyed your argument. It just comes off as someone who is really committed to their romance, and is incapable of imagining someone else wanting to experience something different.

Also remember that this sort of generalizing is not limited to Solas romance. I think just about every romance has had something nasty said about it towards their fans. [IE; Sera/Iron Bull is abusive111, Cullen/Josie is just for disney babies, ect ect.] Just be aware of it, laugh it off, and make sure not to respond by making similar comments.

TLDR; Critique is fine, generalizing just makes you look silly.

Yes, agreed! And also, those movies were perfect for rifftrax. All the pausing reminded me of Touch of Satan (if you also watch mst3k).

I seem to have stepped into this thread at an odd moment, but honestly I don't see what's wrong with people reading/enjoying bad romance novels.

[Eivuwan]

Yes, agreed! And also, those movies were perfect for rifftrax. All the pausing reminded me of Touch of Satan (if you also watch mst3k).

I seem to have stepped into this thread at an odd moment, but honestly I don't see what's wrong with people reading/enjoying bad romance novels.

 

It started when someone on Reddit claim that the Solas romance sucks because it's like Twilight.

[Little Mama]

I never really got into Twilight when it was out, but...the whole tragic/can't be together romance trope is older than dirt and has been done so many times long before Twilight... Twilight is just a recent example in pop culture, so I guess we get the comparisons.  I think people who criticize it for being too Twilight-ish just haven't read or seen enough stories? Everyone always thinks their generation invented everything. 

Agreed. Dates back past even Romeo and Juliet. 

_{Twilight is just a very, very, very bad version... Sorry, really hate the series...)}

[MisterJB]

Is there a consensus in this thread for the apparent contradiction of Solas' motivations?

By the end of the game, he appears dedicated to restoring the elven people. However, when my Male Human (thus not a romance) Inquisitor asked him, after Halamshiral, who was his people, he didn't seem that particularly invested in the elves.

According to his own words, they were a "lost cause". I could understand an elven Inquisition convincing him they were still worth saving but what about other playthroughs? Was he simply deceiving the Inquisitor?

 

Of course, there is also the fact after Haven he appeared concerned of Corypheus' actions leading to a backlash against the elves so, yet another contradiction.

[TanisLave]

Agreed. Dates back past even Romeo and Juliet. 

_{Twilight is just a very, very, very bad version... Sorry, really hate the series...)}

I will not be the Juliet to Solas's Romeo.

 

Just sayin', I ain't dying for no man-elf. 

 

Is there a consensus in this thread for the apparent contradiction of Solas' motivations.

By the end of the game, he appears dedicated to restoring the elven people. However, when my Male Human (thus not a romance) Inquisitor asked him, after Halamshiral, who was his people, he didn't seem that particularly invested in the elves.

According to his own words, they were a "lost cause". I could understand an elven Inquisition convincing him they were still worth saving but what about other playthroughs? Was he simply deceiving the Inquisitor?

 

Of course, there is also the fact after Haven he appeared concerned of Corypheus' actions leading to a backlash against the elves so, yet another contradiction.

 

He doesn't consider Dalish his people, He considers the Elvhen his people, who people theorize he trapped inside the Eluvians. And -that- is who he's trying to save. 

[TheComfyCat]

It started when someone on Reddit claim that the Solas romance sucks because it's like Twilight.

Yes, I saw that. It's easy to make a Twilight/ Solas romance comparison if you dislike both and want to rant about it. But I just don't really find the comparison (or the ranting) a big deal.

 

ETA Top Solas

[Mims]

Yes, agreed! And also, those movies were perfect for rifftrax. All the pausing reminded me of Touch of Satan (if you also watch mst3k).
 

 

The second twilight film with rifftrax is almost my favorite comedy. Every line from it is hilarious. 

 

[Touch of Satan is also great, eheh.] 

[MisterJB]

He doesn't consider Dalish his people, He considers the Elvhen his people, who people theorize he trapped inside the Eluvians. And -that- is who he's trying to save. 

The elvhen? Would these be the elven gods?

If you are referring to ancient elves like Abelas, I would point out he said to him that his people remained (which I assumed it was the other elves) and that the elven slaves of the Imperium had to come from somewhere.

[kalasaurus]

Yes, I saw that. It's easy to make a Twilight/ Solas romance comparison if you dislike both and want to rant about it. But I just don't really find the comparison (or the ranting) a big deal.

I'd argue that the person was probably trolling for a response so to p*ss off the growing Solas fanbase.  Like was said before, it's usually something that's popular with mainly women/girls that seems to be the target for such ridicule.

 

It obviously worked, whether that was the intent or not.

[TanisLave]

The elvhen? Would these be the elven gods?

If you are referring to ancient elves like Abelas, I would point out he said to him that his people remained (which I assumed it was the other elves) and that the elven slaves of the Imperium had to come from somewhere.

 

Maybe? Some think he means the pantheon, others think he had to also sacrifice a small amount of the followers along with the gods to trick them into being locked into their "paradise".

 

No one really knows for 100% sure, but we know that he does NOT think the Dalish are even remotely his people. 

[Mims]

Is there a consensus in this thread for the apparent contradiction of Solas' motivations.

 

 

He doesn't see the Dalish/City elves as his people. Consensus is that he's talking about the elvhen.

 

That said, a lot of things Solas says are still contradictory. Most likely by intention to keep the 'audience' unsure what his end goal will be. Its very possible even he doesn't know what his motivations are. He just knows that he's made a mistake, and he's the one required to fix it. 

[Illyria]

 

I will not be the Juliet to Solas's Romeo.

 

Just sayin', I ain't dying for no man-elf. 

 

 

Romeo and Juliet were idiots and Romeo would've gotten bored of Juliet as quickly as he moved on from whats-her-name.

[TheComfyCat]

Romeo and Juliet were idiots and Romeo would've gotten bored of Juliet as quickly as he moved on from whats-her-name.

 

[kalasaurus]

Oh, thanks for sharing that video.  It's been awhile since I watched it XD

[Rabbitonfire]

Romeo and Juliet were idiots and Romeo would've gotten bored of Juliet as quickly as he moved on from whats-her-name.

Awww, young love.

[Illyria]

 

That seems about right.

 

Except 'wherefore art thou Romeo' means 'why are you called Romeo'