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This theory is rather solid, but here comes question of Inquisitor's mortality. Clearly, the Anchor would vanish along with her/him, so what will be holding the Veil in this case?

 

Would it? Maybe it would just be stuck to the bones? Removing it kills the Inquisitor, that doesn't mean killing the Inquisitor removes it does it? Unless I've missed some important dialogue somewhere. :wacko:



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*gets the crazy eyes and hisses "wikiiiii"*

 

I'm not on board, but would take a few pages to explain why.  Interested in taking these things apart, or just want to keep them as they are?

 

They are hypotheses, just as yours are.  They have flaws, but so do yours.  Neither is likely to be canon.

 

I'm just poking around with ideas I've had; there's actually pretty good evidence in the codex entries and dialogue (the sinner codex mentions gods and their chosen being allowed the divine winged form, Abelas tells you that people like the Venatori murdered Mythal, if you side with the templars and fight the Venatori, and we know that they took down Mythal instead of Elgar'nan).  BUT, the codex entries have proven to be unreliable, and character dialogue relies on that given character's perspective, so take that as you will.

 

As for the Anchor, or Mythal being head of the pantheon, there's no real evidence one way or another, but the comment many pages back that there is more than one focus suggests to me that there are more than one.  But, the Anchor was once part of Solas's orb, and that one's just wild theory.  There's no evidence either for or against it, except that an anchor holds something in place.  Does the Inquisitor need to be anchored into place?  I doubt it.  What else needs to be anchored into place?  Maybe something that might have to do with magic tied to the Fade? ... Hm, the Veil?  So it's a guess.  Probably a wrong one, but I'm not throwing theories out there to be right.  If I'm right I'll be highly entertained.  If I'm wrong, I'll be like:  Ooooh I was wrong, it wasn't for anchoring the Veil, it was for X reason!  (Bearing in mind that I'm probably wrong because Corypheus did some kind of ritual to get the Anchor and it took him years--so the orb's original purpose could have bee something entirely different.  Perhaps the Veil was torn in the past as well, shortly after its creation, and the orb was made to help, or perhaps it has nothing at all to do with the Veil.  But, if the Anchor DID exist before, and Solas DID wield it, that still doesn't necessarily mean he ever walked physically in the Fade, which I am sure is another argument against it.  It's likely he was unaware that he would be able to do such a thing.)

 

Back to my concept about Mythal and her murderers:

 

Was talking in chat just now about that idea about the Old Gods NOT being the Creators, or keys, but the chosen of the Old Gods, and it led to the discussion of what Venatori-esque group killed Mythal.  It could have been the "sinner" from that one codex, sometime after he was punished.  The Creators themselves may have been involved, since the sinner said Dirthamen ordered him to do what he did.  More accurately, the "sinner" felt wronged, especially if he'd been telling the truth, so he may have gathered followers after being corrupted/punished/etc. and set forth to become a god himself.  Or maybe that was his goal all along:  to become a god.  It seriously looks as if the ancient gods were playing the Orlesian Game, so, who can say?


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OMG, since I started fast traveling from the war table I'm hearing music and banter I never heard before. I hadn't even realized that Val Royeux was supposed to have ambient music. And there's this banter where Solas asks Cole if he's never been interested in women since he became human. :blink:

Curious thing is that the music playing in Val Royeaux is actually a bug, same as drums in Skyhold, as stated in this tread. So the fix for the banter bug produces another bug :lol:



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Behold:

 

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Thank the Maker for flycam :3


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This theory is rather solid, but here comes question of Inquisitor's mortality. Clearly, the Anchor would vanish along with her/him, so what will be holding the Veil in this case?

 

That's something I thought of in the past, too.  Unless the Inquisitor is somehow made immortal by the Anchor, which I doubt even for an elven Inquisitor, without any means of removing the Mark, the magic probably just returns to the Fade, or does whatever happens to magic when someone dies.  Or maybe it remains attached to the Inquisitor's hand bones long after his/her body decays.  That'd be uber-creepy, though.



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Behold:

 

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Thank the Maker for flycam :3

 

That first one is so sassy.


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Possibly, but if art assets are limited (which I know they are, budget and all that), why waste that on two different types of wolf statue when one would have sufficed?

You may be unto something but remember what happened with the Temple of Mythal animation? People were saying Mythal could possibly be human because the model they used for her was that of a human but then one of the devs just said they were reusing assets? It could go either way though. I was wondering too why they had two different types of wolves for him but I just assumed it was a technical thing.

 

 

Yeah.  One of the howling wolf statues in Exalted Plains is a landmark labeled "Broken Dog".

Actually wasn't one of the wolves used for Fereldan decorations or am I confusing it?


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That's something I thought of in the past, too.  Unless the Inquisitor is somehow made immortal by the Anchor, which I doubt even for an elven Inquisitor, without any means of removing the Mark, the magic probably just returns to the Fade, or does whatever happens to magic when someone dies.  Or maybe it remains attached to the Inquisitor's hand bones long after his/her body decays.  That'd be uber-creepy, though.

 

Inquisitors bone-hand is the new Foci, of course. 



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Behold:

 

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Thank the Maker for flycam :3

 

I still have the insatiable desire to slip up from behind and goose him.  :lol:


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OMG, since I started fast traveling from the war table I'm hearing music and banter I never heard before. I hadn't even realized that Val Royeux was supposed to have ambient music. And there's this banter where Solas asks Cole if he's never been interested in women since he became human. :blink:

 

Spoiler

 

The answer was "no." Heh. I'd have loved a birds and bees discussion.

 

Also, I'm somewhat inclined to think that Falon'din is also stirring and that he was the entity that... TME spoiler

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And he's after Solas. There's this little nook in the Exalted Plains that's marked with Falon'din's symbols (is that right?) and it gives you a codex on Fen'Harel, the traditional story of him as betrayer. With the creepy skull that has tentacles growing out of its base.

 

Spoiler

 

This actually refers to a movie, Meet Joe Black.  The original is a classic, but there's a newer version and Brad Pitt played Death in it. It was named after the name of the man Death was possessing.  Basically, Death agrees not to take a man for a while so that he can take the man's daughter instead.  In the old version, Death does take the woman, but in the newer version, he lets her live and then she falls in love with the man Death was possessing.  The story Solas and Cole are telling is only different in that Death didn't want anything until possessing someone.

 

A lot of dialogues between Solas and Cole refer to movies.  I can't identify all of them.  One of them is It's a Wonderful Life, though.


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It's terrible when there are all these movie references you don't get because you didn't watch them.


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You may be unto something but remember what happened with the Temple of Mythal animation? People were saying Mythal could possibly be human because the model they used for her was that of a human but then one of the devs just said they were reusing assets? It could go either way though. I was wondering too why they had two different types of wolves for him but I just assumed it was a technical thing.

 

 

Actually wasn't one of the wolves used for Fereldan decorations or am I confusing it?

 

I've heard that there's wolves in the Ferelden decor, but I haven't looked at it yet. 

 

This actually refers to a movie, Meet Joe Black.  The original is a classic, but there's a newer version and Brad Pitt played Death in it. It was named after the name of the man Death was possessing.  Basically, Death agrees not to take a man for a while so that he can take the man's daughter instead.  In the old version, Death does take the woman, but in the newer version, he lets her live and then she falls in love with the man Death was possessing.  The story Solas and Cole are telling is only different in that Death didn't want anything until possessing someone.

 

A lot of dialogues between Solas and Cole refer to movies.  I can't identify all of them.  One of them is It's a Wonderful Life, though.

 

I was wondering if that's what the reference was...  



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That's something I thought of in the past, too.  Unless the Inquisitor is somehow made immortal by the Anchor, which I doubt even for an elven Inquisitor, without any means of removing the Mark, the magic probably just returns to the Fade, or does whatever happens to magic when someone dies.  Or maybe it remains attached to the Inquisitor's hand bones long after his/her body decays.  That'd be uber-creepy, though.

Somehow I doubt it'd remain attached postmortem, because then Cory would just kill Quizzie and go off with her hand to use it as he saw fit. But I think it's valuable and important thing, otherwise it wouldn't be called an Anchor.

Or it would, for dramatic effect. 

Anyway, makes me wonder just how much power Inquisitor really aquired. Plus, it seems she/he's becomes more proficient with using the mark by the end of game, so just maybe we haven't actually seen its full potential.

 

 

I've heard that there's wolves in the Ferelden decor, but I haven't looked at it yet. 

 

 

I was wondering if that's what the reference was...  

There are, they even give you additional codex entries for examination.

 

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Setting up Drawing chatroom. Just gotta find my phones.

 

 

OPEN:

Drawing Chatroom


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Setting up Drawing chatroom. Just gotta find my phones.

 

 

OPEN:

Drawing Chatroom

 

I don't have a Webcam, anyway to somehow use OBS projector for it?



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I seem to be on a screenshot binge today. So here's some more I wanted to share. There's no fun theories attached to these though, just some Solas.

Tiger Festival made him an outfit and staff especially for him to keep when he runs off. They were crafted partly to fan the tiny spark of hope I'm hiding that it isn't all over, but mostly I made them to guilt trip the hell outta him.

Here they are:
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Also I would like you all to meet my new dwarf Inquisitor, Kitty. I always have to have at least one PT in games like this where the heroine is named Kitty. It's a long story. One of those "You had to be there." sort of tales.

Here she is:
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Based on that last shot, I can already tell I'm going to appreciate seeing things from her perspective.
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It's terrible when there are all these movie references you don't get because you didn't watch them.


Cole also makes references to KOTOR and Jade Empire.
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Yeah, I just watched The Prophecy so I could understand the "It was wrong to put it in a child. It hurt her." line Cole says in a banter with Solas.

 

That movie is WEIRD.

 

But Walken is so awesome in it!  @w@


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There are, they even give you additional codex entries for examination.

 

 

Oooh, I'm going to check that out then.  Thanks. :D


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How did you get the white so white, Kittn? Is that cotton?

BTW you have a sweet Lavellan :)