trade whisky with something ph neutral like milk and then we're talking. Hard time drinking bitter with sweet.
I don't know about you, but I can make some pretty awesome Guinness brownies, or Bailey's brownies. Two elves, one stone, and leaves a free hand for cocoa.
I read a short fiction story in high school based in the Victorian era. Apparently cucumber sandwiches offered by the hostess of the household were used as a sex euphemism during conversation. I don't know why that cucumber comment made me remember, but it did. Apparently way back in the Victorian era people would use the topic of food if they wanted to talk about sexy things.
And on that note: what foods would Solas use as sex euphemisms for flirting? >.>
Interesting stuff about the cucumbers. Learn something new everyday!
I so desperately want to answer that question but I'm drawing a complete blank. Are there any foodstuff mentioned in the lore particular to the elves? Uhhhh... darn. The only thing I can think of was his Haven line about some fruit being tempting. Aw yis. Fruit so sessy.
Interesting stuff about the cucumbers. Learn something new everyday!
I so desperately want to answer that question but I'm drawing a complete blank. Are there any foodstuff mentioned in the lore particular to the elves? Uhhhh... darn. The only thing I can think of was his Haven line about some fruit being tempting. Aw yis. Fruit so sessy.
I imagine fruit would be the easiest to pair with sex talk, but yes, for that story it was all about the cucumber!
Sera uses a peach to describe. Well. Things to Blackwall. Solas would probably be classier and use particularly bright fruits to tie in with his quip about temptation. Cherries, kiwi. Dragonfruit or Passion if he wanted to get exotic.
We're Big Damn Theorists
Starting with the Magisters and Lyrium.
From What we know about Lyrium, It can mutate mages who use it extensively. So, we know that the magisters also used very,very large amounts of lyrium when they preformed the ritual to breach the fade. I personally do not think they manage to make it to the fade, but instead it was the earthly equivalent that possibly lays at the center of the world. The use of the large amount of lyrium is what could have created the first Darkspawn, by mutating the mages. An the reason they did not reach the fade is because they lacked the old blood of the Calenhad line.
The Taint. The Calling. The Cure
I think the taint is caused from the tevinter mages getting their ritual wrong in some way. The calling might have something to do with the call that brought the dragons to the temple in the silent grove, before they went extinct. I am almost positive that the cure has something to do with the Calenhad line. Fiona was cured and though she seems unsure how, I think it has something to do with carrying the child of Maric. As we know the possibility of a Grey Warden reproducing is extremely unlikely, but Fiona managed to get preggers, then is mysteriously cured.
The Old Gods.
They are not gods at all. They are in fact Great Dragons. We know of one Great Dragon that is already awake, The Queen of the Dragons (Possibly Flemythal), who was awakened by the blood of Calenhad. Calenhad supposedly drank the blood of a dying Great Dragon in a cave, if you go by Qunari belief of the tale. It is also said by Aurelian Titus that the tevinter mages were close to reclaiming the power of the dreamers (Who could shape the fade), but all they needed was dragon blood. I am still trying to find the attachment of the dragons and the elven gods. I am not sure as to why they seem to parallel each other so much. Any thoughts?
The Dreamers and gods
I do not believe that all of the ancient elven gods were dreamers. There were considered to be 7 sleeping dragons. I personally believe there are only seven true elven gods. Elger'nan, Fen'heral, Mythal, Dirthamen/Falon 'din (Same person), Andruil, Sylaise, and June. I do not think Ghilan'nain was really a god, maybe someone who was highly praised and later was attached to the gods.
The Veil and The fade.
The Fade did not always exist as we know it. I think the veil was created using blood magic of some kind, perhaps related to the great dragons. The reason I think it was created by blood magic is because it is not a true physical barrier, but one of the mind.
Solas
So, I think I have an idea of Solas's agenda. In a conversation he has with the inquisitor (I think a rival relationship) She approaches him about not caring for the elves. The quizzy can ask if he can think of know way, and he states not unless we collapse the veil and casually reshape reality. I think this is possibly his true plan. I know you have a quest to strengthen the veil for him, but perhaps he knows of a way to bring it down that is not as destructive.
Interesting stuff about the cucumbers. Learn something new everyday!
I so desperately want to answer that question but I'm drawing a complete blank. Are there any foodstuff mentioned in the lore particular to the elves? Uhhhh... darn. The only thing I can think of was his Haven line about some fruit being tempting. Aw yis. Fruit so sessy.
http://dragonage.wik...les_of_Arlathan
"I like apples." - Fenris
There was also something about "salt chews" in Asunder, it was something that could only be found in the alienage.
*snip*
The Taint. The Calling. The Cure
I think the taint is caused from the tevinter mages getting their ritual wrong in some way. The calling might have something to do with the call that brought the dragons to the temple in the silent grove, before they went extinct. I am almost positive that the cure has something to do with the Calenhad line. Fiona was cured and though she seems unsure how, I think it has something to do with carrying the child of Maric. As we know the possibility of a Grey Warden reproducing is extremely unlikely, but Fiona managed to get preggers, then is mysteriously cured.
*snip*
Something that I always wanted to ask about this -- If curing the Taint has something to do with the Calenhad line, why is it that Alistair still managed to become tainted when he underwent the Joining? We know that the Grey Wardens tried to do the Joining again on Fiona after she was cured but it didn't work, so I'm wondering what's the explanation for Alistair's case?
Sorry if this is a dumb question, please don't yell at me. ^__^;
Something that I always wanted to ask about this -- If curing the Taint has something to do with the Calenhad line, why is it that Alistair still managed to become tainted when he underwent the Joining? We know that the Grey Wardens tried to do the Joining again on Fiona after she was cured but it didn't work, so I'm wondering what's the explanation for Alistair's case?
Sorry if this is a dumb question, please don't yell at me. ^__^;
I like to see Fiona's body having already gone through one Calling thanks to Archie and Renille snapping its fingers and kicking the darkspawn taint's butt whenever they tried to join Fiona again.
But yeah, Fiona being cured of the Taint was very, very strange. In addition to Alistair becoming a Warden, wasn't Sophia Dryden a descendant of Calenhad that became a Warden? A cadet branch or something?
Do we have any reasons other than Fiona to suspect the Calenhad Great Dragon blood to have to do anything with the Taint? 
Dragons have a natural resistance to the taint. That's from the Dragonology War Table missions. Resistance doesn't necessarily mean "immune", but it's still significant. Alistair's dragon blood may have been a key component in how Fiona was cured, but there's probably more to it.
http://fenxshiral.tu...-the-fear-demon
So this was posted earlier and I was going over it because I like the sound of elven, and while I agreed with the author on the most likely translation, (It's seriously cool that we have people talented enough in linguistics to figure out this much elven) one of the other ones really piqued my interest.
The version the translator goes with as most likely.
NIGHTMARE: Speak, rebel! You care for nothing but victory. Your pride will be your death.
SOLAS: Nothing is inevitable.
But the version that ties in with Solas being tied to certain all-consuming mysterious phenomenons of mass destruction...
NIGHTMARE: Speak, rebel! You are the Blight's victory. Your pride will be your death.
SOLAS: The Blight is inevitable.
This is probably just a result of banal being the word for nothing and banalhan being both 'blight' and 'place of the blight's origin'.
But still.
Plot bunnies.
Couldn't the taint have passed from Fiona to her child, thus curing her? Alistair's dragon blood could have been what kept him safe from the taint affecting him, maybe. Just a guess.
Dragons have a natural resistance to the taint. That's from the Dragonology War Table missions. Resistance doesn't necessarily mean "immune", but it's still significant. Alistair's dragon blood may have been a key component in how Fiona was cured, but there's probably more to it.
Yes! I think it definitely had something to do with the blood, but there is a large margin for there the be way more to it. Maybe it is something similar to the dark ritual. >.< See :: Points to theory :: There are still many holes. It could be related to Maric himself, or a combination of the calling and being preggers. There is so much mojo going on :: rubs temple ::
Something that I always wanted to ask about this -- If curing the Taint has something to do with the Calenhad line, why is it that Alistair still managed to become tainted when he underwent the Joining? We know that the Grey Wardens tried to do the Joining again on Fiona after she was cured but it didn't work, so I'm wondering what's the explanation for Alistair's case?
Sorry if this is a dumb question, please don't yell at me. ^__^;
I think this is a great question and one I shall have to ponder on. I am not sure that baby Alistair is the cure but something involving the blood. It very well could be Something dealing with Maric and not Alistair at all.
I imagine fruit would be the easiest to pair with sex talk, but yes, for that story it was all about the cucumber!
Sera uses a peach to describe. Well. Things to Blackwall. Solas would probably be classier and use particularly bright fruits to tie in with his quip about temptation. Cherries, kiwi. Dragonfruit or Passion if he wanted to get exotic.
Someone should... you know... write... fruity fanfiction... 
http://fenxshiral.tu...-the-fear-demon
So this was posted earlier and I was going over it because I like the sound of elven, and while I agreed with the author on the most likely translation, (It's seriously cool that we have people talented enough in linguistics to figure out this much elven) one of the other ones really piqued my interest.
The version the translator goes with as most likely.
NIGHTMARE: Speak, rebel! You care for nothing but victory. Your pride will be your death.
SOLAS: Nothing is inevitable.
But the version that ties in with Solas being tied to certain all-consuming mysterious phenomenons of mass destruction...
NIGHTMARE: Speak, rebel! You are the Blight's victory. Your pride will be your death.
SOLAS: The Blight is inevitable.
This is probably just a result of banal being the word for nothing and banalhan being both 'blight' and 'place of the blight's origin'.
But still.
Plot bunnies.
"Your pride will be your death."
Oh my, I reeaaally don't like the sound of that. 
Banal nadas Capri.
Also completely hope this third patch covers Solas's quest bug
http://www.inquisitr...ter-appearance/
"Your pride will be your death."
Oh my, I reeaaally don't like the sound of that.
I've seen another translation out there somewhere... let me see...
Caddius, not Cassius.
I'm not the failure prone Denarian from Dresden Files.
And I am completely on board with a Theory-crafting wiki, and think Team Mordin's DA Lab is a perfect name.
Again, apologies if this is coming too late.
EDIT: According to http://dragonage.wik.../wiki/The_Stoneworship of the Stone has been practiced for two thousand years.
That's roughly around the time of Endrin Stonehammer and the Paragons, as well as switching capitals from Kal'sharok to Orzammar due to the Tevinter Civil War impacting trade.
That leaves 3500 years between dwarf-elf first contact and known worship of the Stone.
*facepalms hard*
Gah!! I get this instant association between you and Rome and massive history posts that makes my brain insist on "Cassius Dio" every time.
I'm so sorry about that. >w< Caddius. Caddius. Got it.
Interesting point about the rise of Stone worship, though. All the hints we have in game about dwarves losing who / what they once were are functionally explainable if we assume they were crafted with the singular purpose of protecting the integrity of the Stone, but just pointing out the difference between their original (theoretical) drone-like nature and their modern, almost entirely autonomous existence doesn't address the critical question of why they changed.
It may have simply been a gradual development in their sense of "self" as distinct from the Stone- almost like Cole gains as a spirit, but over hundreds of generations. Still, there seems to be certain seismic (hahaha) shifts in dwarven history, like the adoption of the Stone as a religion, the rise of Monarchy and the concept of Paragons that suggest an external force may have been pushing this evolution just a bit.
...have I mentioned that I'd really, really like to dig under one of the dwarven Proving Grounds to see if they're all built on a foundation designed to harness the blood spilled there, Kirkwall-style? Something about the whole idea just doesn't sit right. Feels almost like an intentional redirection of their purpose: internal, rather than external fighting...
*shakes herself*
Anyway. Dwarves are weird. Haven't reached their section yet in WoTv1, so hope there's a thread in there to start untangling some of this stuff. =w=
I'm reading through the Patient Observation codexes, and I never noticed this before:
-Day Two-Pulse normal, breathing normal.Still unresponsive; careful drop-feed of prep.Elfroot extract to hasten her recovery.A lot of thrashing. Mutters about too many eyes. Something about "the grey." Encouraging?
Any ideas what that could be?
Hmm. I'd been running under the assumption that Solas was up to something bizarre in her dreams- mentally prepping her subconscious mind into what he needed her to be: the eyes being the Dread Wolf, grey being balance.
I hadn't considered the Wardens before reading these posts though, and it seems possible, given the theoretical WoEternity reference, the probable mess at Weisshaupt and DLC leadup. Will have to keep that in mind.
*facepalms hard*
Gah!! I get this instant association between you and Rome and massive history posts that makes my brain insist on "Cassius Dio" every time.
I'm so sorry about that. >w< Caddius. Caddius. Got it.
Interesting point about the rise of Stone worship, though. All the hints we have in game about dwarves losing who / what they once were are functionally explainable if we assume they were crafted with the singular purpose of protecting the integrity of the Stone, but just pointing out the difference between their original (theoretical) drone-like nature and their modern, almost entirely autonomous existence doesn't address the critical question of why they changed.
It may have simply been a gradual development in their sense of "self" as distinct from the Stone- almost like Cole gains as a spirit, but over hundreds of generations. Still, there seems to be certain seismic (hahaha) shifts in dwarven history, like the adoption of the Stone as a religion, the rise of Monarchy and the concept of Paragons that suggest an external force may have been pushing this evolution just a bit.
...have I mentioned that I'd really, really like to dig under one of the dwarven Proving Grounds to see if they're all built on a foundation designed to harness the blood spilled there, Kirkwall-style? Something about the whole idea just doesn't sit right. Feels almost like an intentional redirection of their purpose: internal, rather than external fighting...
*shakes herself*
Anyway. Dwarves are weird. Haven't reached their section yet in WoTv1, so hope there's a thread in there to start untangling some of this stuff. =w=
No problem, madrassa. 
I take being associated with Rome and massive history posts as a compliment. Good thing it was Cassius Dio and not Gaius Crassus Longinus.
What I'm curious about is how an entire civilization can lose their history like the dwarves have. Kal'Sharok had been the capital for quite some time by the time Orzammar ascended. Neither city fell to darkspawn, neither race was enslaved (that we know of). Basically, they don't have the elves' trademarked excuses.
Very interesting thought on the Provings.
Do we have a timeline for when the rituals mentioned in Kirkwall were used? Emerius/Kirkwall was founded at roughly the half-way point between the formation of the Imperium and the Black City Goofball Trip. It also coincides with Archon Parthenius claiming the throne and ending one of the great Civil War Eras in Tevinter history.
As for the Inquisitor's comments in their post-Fade trip sleep, I think 'Grey' is a reference to the Wardens present at the ritual, and 'too many eyes' would be the spiders that both Hawke and the Inquisitor are so afraid of. Still can't help but think of the extra eyes on the Dread Wolf, though. And the many eyes in the Temple of Mythal Codex entry.
As for the wiki, I'm hopelessly inept when it comes to wiki-fu, but in the next day or so I should have the timeline updated to fit a FA standardized dating system. After that, I guess I'll help go back and organize theories? I'm decent with editing grammar and making things coherent when I'm not speaking 'casually'.
EDIT: If the dwarven Provings aren't Emerius style blood ritual glyphs, it wouldn't surprise me if the Tevinter knock-off gladiator games didn't have an enterprising magister or two changing things beneath the sands...
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