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[TanisLave]

This thread moves super fast.

 

Now I can never sleep If I wish to keep up. 

[Illyria]

 

It makes sense!  If you read the horsemasters notes on horses it matches perfectly.

 

Also, that gif is hypnotic.

[Illyria]

Hey, theorycrafters, can you make something of this?

 

In the ritual that created the breach the Divine is floating above a seal of some kind.

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And here's a close up of the seal, also, a video since the lines were kinda shifting about.

I can't really make anything of the symbols but maybe someone else can?

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I am almost certain those are the same markings seen on the ground in Mesuring the Veil.  I'll have to check, though.  Could be a case of re-used art assets, however.
 

[dragondreamer]

Hey, theorycrafters, can you make something of this?

 

In the ritual that created the breach the Divine is floating above a seal of some kind.

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And here's a close up of the seal, also, a video since the lines were kinda shifting about.

I can't really make anything of the symbols but maybe someone else can?

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Someone posted before:

 

 

"An eclipse as Fen'Harel stirred." The eclipse from the Emergent Compendium codex, it makes sense now.  Clearly, this all means one thing: Solas could only be summoned during the Great Conjunction.

 

 

No wonder we had to collect shards.

[vierrae]

I bet my hat, it's just a re-used art. Like I said, here's the very same glyph in Hushed Whispers

 

EDIT: whoops, it's not exactly the same. Sorry 

Modifié par vierra, 18 janvier 2015 - 04:01 .

[CapricornSun]

"An eclipse as Fen'Harel stirred." The eclipse from the Emergent Compendium codex, it makes sense now.  Clearly, this all means one thing: Solas could only be summoned during the Great Conjunction.

 

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No wonder we had to collect shards.

 

OMG, I love The Dark Crystal! Now that's a blast from my childhood.

[dragondreamer]

Fen'Harel enansal!  Finally got that Battlemage Mail schematic. 

[tsunamitigerdragon]

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[madrar]

Hmm. From the wiki.

"Warden legends sing of their leader Carinus, and the sacrifice the founders made as they tried to save the world while their families perished. It is thought that Nakiri of the Donarks was the one who first suggested imbibing the blood of the darkspawn, as his people were known to consume the blood of their enemies to absorb their power. Tevinter mages in the group added to this knowledge, and it is said elven slaves also contributed ancient knowledge from Arlathan. This was in return for being treated as equals in the Order, and with the intention that, after the Blight was ended, they would concentrate on freeing the elves. The Joining symbolically cut their ties to all worldly concerns, in order to dedicate themselves to fighting the darkspawn. They called themselves the Grey Wardens, and would accept anyone, no matter their race or background, without distinction if only deemed suitable to join the Order.

The Grey Wardens first appeared on the battlefield during the attack on Nordbotten, arriving mounted on griffons, plunging into the darkspawn with each Warden taking on crowds of ten or twenty darkspawn at once."

 

I'm with you on the timing and collaboration being suspicious.  People happened to stumble on the idea for Grey Wardens just as civilization was on the knife edge of crumbling entirely?  Coincidences like that tend to make the little voice in my head start screaming about Falon'Din manipulation, but that forces re-examination of why I thought he lured Corypheus to the City to begin with.  I thought his objective was freeing his physical OGS to start fixing the mess his earlier revolution had become, but that doesn't jive with how long he "allowed" the actual Blight to last. Why not shove the Gray Warden idea into peoples' brains right away, killing off Dumat as quickly as possible so his OGS could get back to work?

 

One possibility is that being blighted wasn't Plan A.  It was a known risk, but he imagined Corypheus would be willing/able to wake him directly and didn't expect the magisters to welcome the power of blight with open arms and intentionally blight Dumat.  At that point, it would have been time for emergency Plan B, where the blighted release of his OGS had a useful side-benefit in tearing down a huge part of Tevinter's strength, in combination with representing as long and drawn out a speedbump against the new darkspawn's true objectives as possible without utterly destroying civilization. 

 

...or what I'm describing as "emergency plan B" was Plan A the whole time.  Depends on how much calculated risk and 'necessary death' you're comfortable attributing to the guy in the name of restoring Balance.  

 

I'm not convinced either way.  It's entirely possible the core assumption here is wrong, and that Falon'Din had nothing to do with the rise of the Wardens.  =w=  Not enough data to be sure about anything yet.

[wildannie]

Well, duh. Ofc not every person with dreads is going to be the same. I just think that his concept art (with hair) would be more fitting for his younger self 

lol  it was you that was relating being 'hot blooded' etc with that look *shrugs*  The concept art is just another imagining of how the character would look in game at the age his is in game.  I personally don't think it would be a look I'd have expected a young Solas to have.  Doesn't mean I'm right, just my opinion 

[CapricornSun]

Fen'Harel enansal!  Finally got that Battlemage Mail schematic. 

 

Congrats! I seem to keep getting the Battlemage Mail armor itself instead of the schematic. Why does the schematic have to be so hard to obtain? 

[Illyria]

Something that occured to me about Solas: he's one of the few DAI companions not featured in the companion survey from ages back, right?  The one that showed Dorian, Sera, Josie, Blackwall, Cullen and Cassandra?  Which, when thinking about it, I thought was odd because Solas is by far the most important DAI character so it's odd that we heard very little about him prior to the launch (in fact, he featured so little in the pre-release stuff that many thought Viv would be our first mage).  But that makes sense.  Solas must be the only DAI character who was going to appear in the game no matter what.  Gaider said that the elven lore has been planned from the first game, so Solas was alway going to be a part of DAI.

 

Sorry if I'm stating the obvious.  I thought it was interesting, anyway.

[madrar]

http://fenxshiral.tu...-the-fear-demon

So this was posted earlier and I was going over it because I like the sound of elven, and while I agreed with the author on the most likely translation, (It's seriously cool that we have people talented enough in linguistics to figure out this much elven) one of the other ones really piqued my interest.

The version the translator goes with as most likely.

NIGHTMARE: Speak, rebel! You care for nothing but victory. Your pride will be your death.

SOLAS: Nothing is inevitable.

But the version that ties in with Solas being tied to certain all-consuming mysterious phenomenons of mass destruction...

NIGHTMARE: Speak, rebel! You are the Blight's victory. Your pride will be your death.

SOLAS: The Blight is inevitable.

 

This is probably just a result of banal being the word for nothing and banalhan being both 'blight' and 'place of the blight's origin'.

But still.

Plot bunnies.

 

I think extracting a direct reference to "blight" from "banalhan" is where the logic breaks down here.  "Banal" being nothing and "banalhan" being "the place of nothing" (Void) seems like the tighter and more logical fit to me, given what we think we know about the blight's source and where the Sun is being held.  owo

[nranola]

Guys, what if... What if Felassan is Solas, and the only reason Briala and the other TME people don't recognize him is because at the start of Inquisition, he shaved... his beard.

 

We know from Blackwall that a glorious manly beard does well enough to conceal one's identity. What's more, there are no descriptions for Felassan apart from what he wears, what he carries, and the color of his eyes, so there's no reason to believe that he did not, in fact, have a beard.

 

And finally, let me direct you to this slightly disturbing extracted texture of Solas's mouth-chin area.

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Is that not stubble I see? HMM??

 

What do you think? You have to admit, I'm making some very valid points here!

 

 

or maybe I just wanted to burn the image of a bearded Solas into your head

 

 

...

 

 

*cough*

[dragondreamer]

Congrats! I seem to keep getting the Battlemage Mail armor itself instead of the schematic. Why does the schematic have to be so hard to get it? 

 

Especially when all the ones I find are raspberry colored.   

[vierrae]

Whaaaat! That glyph has an Ouroboros!

More Info on the origins of snake eating itself imagery/ presence in magic glyphs: http://www.crystalin.../ouroboros.html

Indeed, now I see it as well. I think, Ouroboros present here is a subtle allegory for the whole quest, involving time travel, paradoxes etc. I will not quote quantum phisics theories here, just not to embaress myself.

 

Guys, what if... What if Felassan is Solas, and the only reason Briala and the other TME people don't recognize him is because at the start of Inquisition, he shaved... his beard.

 

We know from Blackwall that a glorious manly beard does well enough to conceal one's identity. What's more, there are no descriptions for Felassan apart from what he wears, what he carries, and the color of his eyes, so there's no reason to believe that he did not, in fact, have a beard.

 

And finally, let me direct you to this slightly disturbing extracted texture of Solas's mouth-chin area.

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Is that not stubble I see? HMM??

 

What do you think? You have to admit, I'm making some very valid points here!

 

 

or maybe I just wanted to burn the image of a bearded Solas into your head

 

 

...

 

 

*cough*

Can elves actually have beards?

Well, we have this Andraste theory, so, why the hell not? In this case Solas is very vain, citing all these tales about himself in TME. But is it ok, that Felassan is... how can I put it... dead? A little?

[Moondreamer01]

So, I've finished the second doc, with "human" codex entries. Now, it does NOT include anything Blight/Darkspawn/Wardens or magic-related (these things'll get separate docs), because... even without them, it's 80 pages long T_T and I tried to avoid background fluff... 

 

https://drive.google...iew?usp=sharing

 

After downloading, you can Ctrl-click on things in the table of contents to get to the codex entry you need. 

 

The elven codexes are here: https://drive.google...iew?usp=sharing

This is pages ago, but I just wanted to give a HUGE thank you to you for compiling all those codexes. It's such a big help. also, I wonder if there could be some way at some point to compile actual dialogue in game or if it is too much of an undertaking. There seems to be a lot of foreshadowing in some of them, so it would help too.

[madrar]

 

 

 

That's definitely a match for the internal pattern, though I can't get a 100% read on whether the outside symbols match.  Where is this?  Could be as simple as a blood rune that holds a physical body in place, with no special connection to what C's trying to do with the orb, but still worth digging into.  

[Illyria]

Guys, what if... What if Felassan is Solas, and the only reason Briala and the other TME people don't recognize him is because at the start of Inquisition, he shaved... his beard.

 

We know from Blackwall that a glorious manly beard does well enough to conceal one's identity. What's more, there are no descriptions for Felassan apart from what he wears, what he carries, and the color of his eyes, so there's no reason to believe that he did not, in fact, have a beard.

 

And finally, let me direct you to this slightly disturbing extracted texture of Solas's mouth-chin area.

Spoiler

Is that not stubble I see? HMM??

 

What do you think? You have to admit, I'm making some very valid points here!

 

 

or maybe I just wanted to burn the image of a bearded Solas into your head

 

 

...

 

 

*cough*

 

Varric: Where's your beard, elf?
Fenris: Elves don't grow beards.

 

I don't think male elvens can even select them in the CC.  I've never actually made a male elf in DAO or DAI so I don't know that for certain.  But yeah, beardless elves seem to be a thing in Thedas.

[Illyria]

Especially when all the ones I find are raspberry colored. 

 

Everything I find is made of plaidweave.  I tried to equip it on Vivienne and she left my party.  I can't even find her at Skyhold.  I'm not companing about that, but she took a good staff with her...

[TanisLave]

Varric: Where's your beard, elf?
Fenris: Elves don't grow beards.

 

I don't think male elvens can even select them in the CC.  I've never actually made a male elf in DAO or DAI so I don't know that for certain.  But yeah, beardless elves seem to be a thing in Thedas.

 

Pretty sure It's canon elves can't grow beards, people asked numerous times If Fenris has stubble. (( IT always looked like he did, sorta.)) And were told he doesn't/can't grow a beardd.

[CapricornSun]

Especially when all the ones I find are raspberry colored. 

 

Haha! The ones I keep finding is this dark turquoise one. Which isn't bad, but I want to play around with colors, dammit. xD 

 

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[Avejajed]

Morning. I'm gonna spend some time later working on the wikiiiiii. And also I joined the "book club". Have to do some cleaning at my poor house that has been falling during my dragon age obsession. Also need to finish up t he exhalted plains.

[Addai]

Pretty sure I saw a screenshot in this thread somewhere of that same seal. Only much larger and painted in blood on the floor, with bones I think. I'm going to have to do some digging to find it.

It's the seal on the floor of an elven temple in the Hinterlands where you first get Solas' amulet quest, and meet Mihris. Hmmmmmm.  'ed many times over

 

I was noticing the resemblance of the astrariums to Solas' artifacts, and found the note that says the early Andrastian cults destroyed astrariums because they thought they maintained the Veil. Apparently they were trying to bring down the Veil in order to destroy the world. Hmmmmm.

[k_drake]

If only this were described by george r.r martin. then we would know all about thedas food.

Or Brian Jacques!