This very much, is this going on on tumblr?
Yes. Fights over his sexuality. Fights over the tagging of posts with sexual content. It's boring. The fights make the character boring. I feel that there are two Solas': the part of him that is this sexually aggressive man-imal that everyone is arguing over and then sad, neglected nerd solas holding a book 'um...hello? does anyone like this part of me?' I do nerd solas. I heart that part of you.
Smething I've been wondering about Falon'Din and Dirthamen is why would ancient IMMORTAL elves would need a god linked to death. You might well be right that Dirthament and Falon'Din are actually the same person and his role changed when elves started dying after the quickening. Would explain why a temple to Dirthament have representation of Falon'dIn.
Ancient elves could die, whether by choosing to stay in uthenera until their bodies wasted away (not all could survive on the Fade energies), or dying through accident, murder, etc. They were only immortal in that they would live forever unless they decided to die, or something killed them.
This thread legit has the smartest humans.
Tell us examples about our intelligence!
*Rests hands on chin in anticipation* *twinkles of the eye*
Tell us examples about our intelligence!
*Rests hands on chin in anticipation* *twinkles of the eye*
Not OP (obvs), but I am frequently impressed by the literary/scientific references that are bandied about in a routine manner. We've got some of the more appealing high-brow/low-brow combinations I've seen on the Interwebs.
That's not how it works, that's not how any of this works. There can be abs but not significantly defined. Here's a picture of naked solas:
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Fair enough. 
Gosh, this shot of Solas with his lack of "equipment" never fails to creep me out. 
Ancient elves could die, whether by choosing to stay in uthenera until their bodies wasted away (not all could survive on the Fade energies), or dying through accident, murder, etc. They were only immortal in that they would live forever unless they decided to die, or something killed them.
Ah, yes. That makes sense. I hadn't thought it through. Still so weird the Dirthament temple has no sign of Dirthamen inside it. Maybe his follower took residence in an older temple to Falon'din?
trade whisky with something ph neutral like milk and then we're talking. Hard time drinking bitter with sweet.
BYOD to the fort, just hold me 
I don't know about you, but I can make some pretty awesome Guinness brownies, or Bailey's brownies. Two elves, one stone, and leaves a free hand for cocoa.
That sounds crazy but good! Will have to try!
It's..it's going on here too? Yeah that's pretty sad, tumblr I can take, but BSN as well? What on earth is going on? That people are getting so effing antsy about it? Did the Cullenites have to go through all of this too?
Not a Cullenite, but before I was permanently distracted by The Egg ™ I did frequent the thread since I liked his character and was excited for his romance. But yes... Lots of accusations about his inclusion in the game being fanservice (I think Gaider had a lovely retort to that, saying even if it was - which it wasn't - so what?), about how the only reason they liked him was because he crushed on their Warden (not true, and had these people bothered to ask....), being called squeeing fangirls and such. A lot of resentment towards the character, and to Bioware for continuing to include him.
I don't get it. I'm not that big a fan of Leliana (I like her well enough, but there's a LOT of characters I like better), and could do without her appearing in every game and every book... but I don't get all worked up over it (it's kind of a silly thing to get pissed about, plus I know she has a lot of fans so good for them). And I certainly don't go attacking people for liking her or writing long rants about all the reasons she sucks or what have you. It's childish... and a bit... creepy, I think?
Tasted differ and that's fine, but I wonder if these people are just mad because they know Solas has the potential to be pretty big deal in the future of the series, and the fact that he has a lot of devoted fans makes them afraid he'll get included more?
I'm curious - what do the other threads say about the Solas romance. (Sorry not interested in wading through forum garbage).
Ummm... there's the likening it to Twilight (because, you know, Twilight was the first piece of fiction ever to include the god/demon/mythological figure falls for a mortal thing... oh, wait 
), that's it's stupid to like a romance that ends in a break-up... There have also been people criticizing the lack of sex scene... Those are just off the top of my head.
um does anyone need an invite to AO3 I thought I'd ask since they have suspended automated invites I have 2 invites available that I can use to send
Not a Cullenite, but before I was permanently distracted by The Egg ™ I did frequent the thread since I liked his character and was excited for his romance. But yes... Lots of accusations about his inclusion in the game being fanservice (I think Gaider had a lovely retort to that, saying even if it was - which it wasn't - so what?), about how the only reason they liked him was because he crushed on their Warden (not true, and had these people bothered to ask....), being called squeeing fangirls and such. A lot of resentment towards the character, and to Bioware for continuing to include him.
I don't get it. I'm not that big a fan of Leliana (I like her well enough, but there's a LOT of characters I like better), and could do without her appearing in every game and every book... but I don't get all worked up over it (it's kind of a silly thing to get pissed about, plus I know she has a lot of fans so good for them). And I certainly don't go attacking people for liking her or writing long rants about all the reasons she sucks or what have you. It's childish... and a bit... creepy, I think?
Tasted differ and that's fine, but I wonder if these people are just mad because they know Solas has the potential to be pretty big deal in the future of the series, and the fact that he has a lot of devoted fans makes them afraid he'll get included more?
Ah, yes. That makes sense. I hadn't thought it through. Still so weird the Dirthament temple has no sign of Dirthamen inside it. Maybe his follower took residence in an older temple to Falon'din?
A god of secrets, is probably...secretive? I've considered the idea that Falon'Din and Dirthamen might be the same person, split personality, literally two souls occupying the same body, or potentially just a representation of the physical/spiritual duality of the ancient elves. But for the time being, I think they're separate people, with some unique elfy sort of relationship. I could imagine another scenario where they might have some strong spiritual link that was a sort of relationship that was unique to elves. But I'm not of a solid opinion on what's going on there yet. But I feel like it's significant, if only because I'm starting to think Dirthamen was significant to whatever happened.
Not going to lie, the personality of this Thread is like... Pixar's Up.
Whenever someone joins us, it's usually some form of:
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This is what the theorists do to the whole thread:
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Here's what our theories look like to the outside world:
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This is what the "Book Club" readers are like when they've found their new favorite piece of.. er... literature:
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This is what we're like when we're discussing pet theories and differing opinions
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This is what Team Optimism is hoping for:
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Here is what we're all collectively afraid of except with fifty times more blood, fifty less years together, fifty billion more lies and half-truths, and fifty more decapitated darkspawn magisters and/ or insane elven gods littering the foreground:
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Here's what Solas' romance does to our hearts:
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When trying to defend the awesomeness that is the romance:
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I'm done now. Haha!
Edit: Not gonna lie, I enjoyed reading through this very much! 
Fair enough.
Gosh, this shot of Solas with his lack of "equipment" never fails to creep me out.
I like it. It reminds me of cats. Because cats have retractable Ds. You know what? Everyone in thedas has retractable Ds, except qunari who have black boxes as Ds.
Tasted differ and that's fine, but I wonder if these people are just mad because they know Solas has the potential to be pretty big deal in the future of the series, and the fact that he has a lot of devoted fans makes them afraid he'll get included more?
With our without a romance - Solas was going to come back. He's too major of a character and I sense it was set up that way PRIOR to the additional year BW got to add the actual love story. Soo...people are just going to have to deal with it?
Anyone else got really depressed after romancing Solas or was it just me?
I really doubt that 
I'm working on 2 drawings, (a Cullen Trevelyan and a Solas Lavellan). While drawing I'm listening to the DAI soundtrack.
I listened to all tracks, until I got to the Thedas Love theme.. and was like " T_T I don't want to listen to this now" and moved back to listen to "Epilogue" (post credit scene) on a loop, for no apparent reason. Like listening to it can help me tell my heart why this had to be xD
Ummm... there's the likening it to Twilight (because, you know, Twilight was first piece of fiction ever to include the god/demon/mythological figure falls for a mortal thing... oh, wait
Criticising the lack of....? *throws hands in the air*..yeah, they're not worth it. I applaud the lack of it for reasons. It's clear we don't even need one, I have a good imagination...
Regarding the breakup, yeah come on, it doesn't exactly feel like one does it? (it doesn't to me anyway, and I know what they feel like)
I'm so glad I rarely venture outside.
With our without a romance - Solas was going to come back. He's too major of a character and I sense it was set up that way PRIOR to the additional year BW got to add the actual love story. Soo...people are just going to have to deal with it?
Usually the super big story DLCs are the last dlcs to be released. Early DLCs can be story driven but not the big reveal.
I think that every chracter gets at least some amount of hate - some more, some less. I romanced Zevran in DAO, and forums were full of people complaining about how shallow he is (among other things). Not to mention the whole Fenris/Anders thing where someone just had to pop in at least once per day to call the former a whiny emo and the latter - a liar and a murdering psychopath. The same can be said about almost everyone else.But I just... don't get this need to bash other characters. If I don't find a character interesting, I just leave them in peace - I don't go to their thread to complain or, God forbid, to insult their fans. This kind of behaviour makes one look rather childish. Just because you throw a tantrum, the character you like won't get more screentime, the character you dislike won't disappear, and the story won't miraculously change the way you want it to./rant finished/
It's a good rant and it's one of mine too!
I don't mind people poking at the theories, expanding on them, finding problems with them, etc. if it interests them and they do so respectfully. It bothers me not at all if it's posted on a wiki/etc.
Your eagerness to attack it, however, along with your phrasing, did put me a bit on the defensive. I will point out that you often speak of your own hypotheses as if they are canon, even if you do not believe they are canon. This makes me wary. I am open to discuss my ideas, certainly, but having my thoughts treated as if they were a condemned building in need of demolition would not, to me, be particularly fun. It's likely just a matter of semantics, and I misread your eagerness. It's easy to do so on the Internet.
That said, I don't have any hard feelings etc. You've come up with some amazing ideas since I popped back into the thread after I beat the game. I don't agree with all of them, but they're usually interesting.
I am eager. I don't deny that at all. The disconnect is interpreting that eagerness as "Yay! I get to smash somebody's carefully thought out idea to make them feel terrible!" instead of what it actually is: "Yay! New and interesting idea! I’m going to throw all the logic and counter-evidence I possibly can at this thing, and if it’s still standing at the end, maybe it’s solid enough for us to use as foundation!"
That core process is how we start to build the larger picture. Everything we post here is theory. Nothing is Law. Since our pool of evidence is limited, it's entirely possible for us to come up with ideas that are plausible but don’t reflect how Gaider’s actual world works. Still, if we start to use these solid pieces to build on, extrapolating further ideas using them as our basis, we should eventually spot the kinds of inconsistencies and counter-evidence that force us to re-examine the bad ones and discard them.
Yes, because the quality of EVERY romance is determined by the awkwardly animated pixel sex.
Not respect, boundaries, emotional connection and support, intellectual attraction, and really great make-out sessions.
Wow, I must be doing this marriage thing right. *finger guns* 
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