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[Little Mama]

I always wondered about those wolfs untill I'd finished the game. I mean, I knew all along that Solas wasn't 'normal'/who he said, but who'd be able to figure out that he was the dread Wolf...

 

_{Works out really good with my IQ's backstory though...}  

[vierrae]

 

I think that's made deliberatly.

As I said at a quick look I only saw two dragons, but the one to the left defenativly have paws... so - must be a wolf...

 

 

 

Yep. That's what I meant when I said that "he doesn't look wolfy enough"   On the other frescoes, these are clearly wolves. Here... I don't know.

It's almost like Solas started painting a wolf, but then decided to make it a dragon

[Sifr]

Solas himself says it wasn't your fault. And it was whole when the IQ put it away/dropped it  Maybe it survived before because Corry held it or it might be that without the 'magic' activated it was more fragile/had no protecting barrier. 

 

That's why I wondered if we'd drained the power from it and remove it's magical protection, so when it was struck by the falling debris, it shattered like an ordinary stone? It did seem that we might have gotten a powerboost when we were able to create that rift that tore Corypheus apart and punted him into the Fade, something that'd never been able to do before hand?

 

(Before, whenever we opened a rift, it was in the presence of an inactive tear that already existed)

[Little Mama]

It's almost like Solas started painting a wolf, but then decided to make it a dragon

 

What i relly are curious about though, is when he had the time to paint it? He didn't return from the battle yet it was there after the ending... Was it there before the final fight? I can't remember. 

[Cezelle]

Hm I can't decide either if the animal in the fresco on the left is a wolf or a dragon but the thing that's catching my attention too is how immense the wolf/dragon looks compared to the killed dragon on the right. I mean, a dragon is pretty massive already, but the other animal looks REALLY big compared to it.

[Siha]

Hm I can't decide either if the animal in the fresco on the left is a wolf or a dragon but the thing that's catching my attention too is how immense the wolf/dragon looks compared to the killed dragon on the right. I mean, a dragon is pretty massive already, but the other animal looks REALLY big compared to it.

Sometimes size (in art) is not meant to be photorealistic but to express an idea, a superiority.

[Little Mama]

That's why I wondered if we'd drained the power from it and remove it's magical protection, so when it was struck by the falling debris, it shattered like an ordinary stone? It did seem that we might have gotten a powerboost when we were able to create that rift that tore Corypheus apart and punted him into the Fade, something that'd never been able to do before hand?

 

(Before, whenever we opened a rift, it was in the presence of an inactive tear that already existed)

 

That could be a possibility. It also may be so that it was the IQ's own streght that made it possible. She/he has learned alot about it during the game. The IQ did for instnace open that path into the fade during the Grey Warden quest. Wich brighs me to another question. All those little things that the IQ does - closing and opening rifts, the fade ability, getting in and out of the Fade in natural form as they 'pleases', and more - did Solas himself have that ability? Is that perhaps what the 'could walk freely between both factions' are refering to in the legend about Fen'Harel? That he could walk in and out of the fade as he wished, befreending the spirits... 

[MaidenM]

Regarding the last fresco, are we sure it is supposed to be the victory over Cory? What if it instead would be the alliance (for want of a better word) with Mythal? The "wolf" or whatever would represent the inquisition or the Inquisitor, the defeated dragon would be either the tamed dragon Inqui gets or Morrigan, who at long last has been "defeated" by her mother, bound to her forever?

 

If so, it would make sense that he started it before the fight with Cory but never got to finish it. If his intentions with the fresco where to make sure that the inquisition is remembered, I think siding with an elven goddess would be pretty important to remember, right?

[Little Mama]

Regarding the last fresco, are we sure it is supposed to be the victory over Cory? What if it instead would be the alliance (for want of a better word) with Mythal? The "wolf" or whatever would represent the inquisition or the Inquisitor, the defeated dragon would be either the tamed dragon Inqui gets or Morrigan, who at long last has been "defeated" by her mother, bound to her forever?

 

If so, it would make sense that he started it before the fight with Cory but never got to finish it. If his intentions with the fresco where to make sure that the inquisition is remembered, I think siding with an elven goddess would be pretty important to remember, right?

 

I can also be an indication of what he intends to do. The dragon is Flemeth, killed by himself _{(the wolf)} 

 

In any event, i think the wolf is bigger becaue it shows its superiority in the picture. It is - simply put - a message.

Solas also says himself at some point that "A real God doesn't have to prove it's a God"... _{And he never does}

 

_{BTW; the artword isn't there before the final fight. I just checked}   

[Cezelle]

Sometimes size (in art) is not meant to be photorealistic but to express an idea, a superiority.

 

Yes I was thinking it might have a more symbolic meaning but it makes me wonder why it would be depicted like that, it kind of reminds me of the scene between Solas and Mythal after the credits instead of the final battle with Cory, Solas becoming more powerful because of the exchange but feeling like he stabbed Mythal in the back because of what he had to do maybe?

[Lady Luminous]

Worst fight I ever had was two days ago: 2 giants and six brontos. AT THE SAME TIME. Because Solas can't keep his AoE in his staff like a good mage and not aggro every passive Thedosian bovine in the vicinity. 

Oh dear god... That right there is like my definition of hell. Something about giants and me don't get along. I don't know why they seem harder than dragons, but I can use up 8 bloody potions on one giant, let alone 6 brontos and 2 giants!

 

Did you at least get good loot?

[Elista]

I thought when I saw the last fresco that the wolf was changing into a dragon, after stealing the god essence of Mythal. The sword may mean that the dragon, Mythal, is sacrificed...

[Ajna]

He doesn't have Mythal's god essence as far as we know, just her power, god essence is going to Morrigan it's believed...through the eluvian.

*waits for someone to post dev notes*

[Avejajed]

10/10 I cried.
safe for work.

http://geeky-jez.tum...a-random-idea-a

[Lady Luminous]

As I said over on the Morrigan thread, when you look at their similarities (rebellious mages with secrets, join their respective parties with ulterior motives, leave at the end of the game to pursue those goals, try to break up with their LI to "save" them and are the resident fountain of ancient lore), the two of them really are peas in a pod.

 

I still love the fact that I get to tease them about arguing like a couple.  

[Suketchi]

Unlike the intelligent people here, I do not understand the meaning of the single frescos from that note. Yes, it is about the story progressing, I got that much. But (speaking as the inquisitor) what exactly does the artist want to tell "me"? "I" can only guess. Painting uncommented pictures is not the most transparent way to share important knowledge (I think). Too much room for interpretation leaves too much room for error. "I" did not encounter story-relevant wolves. Still, there's the pack of wolves in one. Sure, might make more sense knowing who he is. But I assume that the inquisitor does not know, not then and not by the end either (as the talk with Lelianna suggests). So what about those wolves... howling at (or away from)... the orb? That's what I do not think the inquisitor can understand (and never bothers to ask) so how would the frescos help him/her?

 

But that's so Solas, isn't it? Like the Fade, art is completely open to interpretation, a matter of perspective. It makes sense that he would record history that way. I always felt like he was painting these for the Inquisitor to show her the consequences of her actions. That's the only reason I can think of for coming back to Skyhold to hastily throw in that last one, when he's supposed to be working on some secret dread wolf-y plan :/

[Oswin]

*snip*

Are you an ancient Elvhen God about to make a universe altering decision you might regret in two or three millenia? Have you recently murdered a good friend of your’s in an attempt to further said potentially terrible decision? Did you in the past month commit to being forever alone after one of the hottest make out scenes in video game history?

STOP NOW. Seriously, stop the eff now, and try a sip of Lavellan fermented fruit juice. You’ll be ready to hop on a boat to the nearest secluded island for eternity. We guarantee it.

Find this on my tumblr here.

 

This is amazing 

 

 

Worst fight I ever had was two days ago: 2 giants and six brontos. AT THE SAME TIME. Because Solas can't keep his AoE in his staff like a good mage and not aggro every passive Thedosian bovine in the vicinity. 

 

Me too D: during my Nightmare run as well for extra fun. Managed to kill both the giants but the Brontos just kept on coming and took my team down. My quizzy was left to leg it back to the nearest campsite and regroup. I can't just blame Solas though, as it was a team effort. Dorian was sparking all over the place and my Inquisitor (artificer) had lined the place with traps. I think Cass was the only one not aggravating the wildlife. 

I had everyone throwing jars of bees all over the place in the hope it would help

It did not.

[Siha]

Yes I was thinking it might have a more symbolic meaning but it makes me wonder why it would be depicted like that, it kind of reminds me of the scene between Solas and Mythal after the credits instead of the final battle with Cory, Solas becoming more powerful because of the exchange but feeling like he stabbed Mythal in the back because of what he had to do maybe?

The dragon could be Mythal or could be Cory. The wolf could be Solas or somebody else who is to be introduced in the future. Or it could be an aspect of something. Also, the dragon could refer to the whole world or time - it is the Dragon age, after all. The dead dragon might express that the times are changing and a new order, a new age will dawn.
The wolf could be looking down in shame, but it could also be looking down on the loser in satisfaction or condescension.
The sword could mean defeat in battle, but why not also deceitfulness? The dragon was, after all, "stabbed in the back" as it looks. Also, the sword is an archetypical symbol not only for aggression but also for different sides to a story (due to being double-edged) or for the transfer of power (pull the sword from the stone to become new king, ennoble somebody by tapping his shoulders with a sword etc.).
I could go on like this.
That's the nice thing about it: it could mean nothing and everything.

I am sure the BioWare guys designed every bit in order to make it ambiguous. For once so that they keep the freedom to make up their mind as they move along or to still have room for change, but also to leave a few things open for fans to ponder on. If there were no ambiguity the game would be less I interesting and forgotten more quickly.

[Illyria]

Don't want to rain on your parade but although Solas is speaking English... His accent is Welsh, and Wales and Welsh are a different culture and language with a different history to the English.  The English (I am half English married to a Welshman, BTW) often take the ****** out of the Welsh because they sound very different, so it's a sensitive subject. Famous Welsh people in the arts include Antony Hopkins, Catherine Zita Jones and the late Richard Burton... Wales is a tiny, weeny country but in drama, writing, rugby and choral music it punches well above its weight.

 

And the Welsh are wonderful people!

 

And kudos to you for learning English, I began learning Spanish at that age and it is hard, hard, hard...

 

I think they mean Solas' English language voice.  It was a correct use of 'English' in that context.

[Little Mama]

The dragon could be Mythal or could be Cory. The wolf could be Solas or somebody else who is to be introduced in the future. Or it could be an aspect of something. Also, the dragon could refer to the whole world or time - it is the Dragon age, after all. The dead dragon might express that the times are changing and a new order, a new age will dawn.
The wolf could be looking down in shame, but it could also be looking down on the loser in satisfaction or condescension.
The sword could mean defeat in battle, but why not also deceitfulness? The dragon was, after all, "stabbed in the back" as it looks. Also, the sword is an archetypical symbol not only for aggression but also for different sides to a story (due to being double-edged) or for the transfer of power (pull the sword from the stone to become new king, ennoble somebody by tapping his shoulders with a sword etc.).
I could go on like this.
That's the nice thing about it: it could mean nothing and everything.

I am sure the BioWare guys designed every bit in order to make it ambiguous. For once so that they keep the freedom to make up their mind as they move along or to still have room for change, but also to leave a few things open for fans to ponder on. If there were no ambiguity the game would be less I interesting and forgotten more quickly.

 

LOL

Sorry, reading through this all I could hear was Morr's voice in my head, Since I just played a part of the Temple quest where she's trying to be so all-knowing but really knows nothing... _{(not saying you are, just explaining my foolish reacion.)}

 

But really, we could speculate on and on forever, but the only one's with the true answer are the devs...

_{And my headache's killing me btw..}   

[Sifr]

I still love the fact that I get to tease them about arguing like a couple.

 

Their acting like an old married couple who've known each other for years is even funnier, considering that her mother is (or was) one of his oldest friends, which just goes to show that Morrigan is far more like her mother than she likes to admit?

[Illyria]

I still love the fact that I get to tease them about arguing like a couple.

 

I was very disappointed at the lack of a response for that line from a romanced Solas.

[Lady Luminous]

Their acting like an old married couple who've known each other for years is even funnier, considering that her mother is (or was) one of his oldest friends, which just goes to show that Morrigan is far more like her mother than she likes to admit?

 

They're more like siblings than a couple! 

[Lady Luminous]

I was very disappointed at the lack of a response for that line from a romanced Solas.

 

I refused to choose that as I was romancing Solas, what does he say?

[Illyria]

I refused to choose that as I was romancing Solas, what does he say?

 

It was just a rather generic 'we should move on' and Morrigan agreeing.  I think. I reloaded the save and picked a different option in the end.