I got the romance card but the "will you explain after the battle" never triggered for me. After the breakup, he was back to coldly calling me Inquisitor and having nothing much to say.
I believe that whether the conversation option will be present or not depends on your approval rating post-breakup.
Anyone watched Hellsing? I'm just saying...
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So is Lavellan Integra? Yes please. I'm totally into that.
Woah, that's new, can you get us screenshot Gloves?
Yep- Give me a sec. Gotta get breakfast for the man-cub and then do the conversion process from the PS4.
Woah, I haven't seen the card of unromanced Solas yet. Scaaary
Why the hell is it so sinister?! The one with the white wolf is so fluffy cute. Damn, they are really playing on the duality of his character big time. Savior or hangman? I really hope we get to have a say in what he becomes in the end...
Also, in the Tower card .. the wolf is huge, black ... like that's his dominant personality now. In the romance card the wolf is smaller, the elf is larger. Or maybe I'm reading too much into that.
Quite frankly... That does rather sound like things sometimes are in the real world...So he resorted to terrorism as a vendetta of a single cat? Condoning the rest of the cat population in kirkwall to be killed either from an official order, mob superstition, or desperate starvation of the sapient populous during the mage-templar conflict?
I sort of came around on this. At first I was like, NO WAY, b/c Solas is too noble. And then I was like, ya know what? I bet that impulsive bastard (said w/ exasperation and affection) did allow it to happen, at least once. Oh sure, he felt guilty afterwards, but what's a little more guilt on top of the massive complex he already carries around?
That said, I really do believe that it can be ambiguous, depending on Lavellan. For all the dom!Solas fic out there, I really think that Lavellan set the boundaries and called the shots. Thus, a very come-hither character could easily have overcome Solas' misgivings (Solas: No, we shouldn't. Lavellan: Come on, you'll like it. Solas: Okay.), whereas a reserved and demure Lavellan would never have pushed things to that point. Of course, it's harder (but not impossible) to RP the latter, since all the flirts have to come from Lavellan.
It never worked for me before, I was starting to think it was another thing that was cut from the lastgen versions of the game. Then today, suddenly it worked. Don't give up!
It's really schizo. The necklace never worked for my Lavellan Solasmancer. 
I got it now on my dude Lavellan and it sometimes works and sometimes doesn't. The Hinterlands wolves growl and act unfriendly, but don't attack. I grabbed a few screenshots (may try to post them later, none were really that great). Then, as I was walking back towards camp, I was jumped by some mercenaries, the wolves came to help fight, but then they somehow drew Cassandra's aggro so then my whole party started attacking, and they all ended up dead.
I was bummed, and reloaded to the save I had just made while I was standing in the middle of them with them not attacking while I was screenshotting. I loaded up that save... that exact moment in time when they were all behaving... and as soon as I loaded in, they all started attacking the party despite my wearing the necklace. I just tried to tell my party repeatedly to disengage and hauled ass away to try and spare the wolves.
Something is definitely not working as intended somewhere. 
I got the romance card but the "will you explain after the battle" never triggered for me. After the breakup, he was back to coldly calling me Inquisitor and having nothing much to say.
I believe he never said he'll tell Lav what's going on. Only that you'll see...
Yep. -> https://www.youtube....h?v=deVDJvcg-DM
Oooh, I love that! And others - if it's not a stretch. Sylaise being a spirit of Home, Mythal - of protection/judgement, Anduril - of sacrifice, Falon'din - well, Solas did say about his vanity. Interesting indeed.
Thanks! I'm not sure about the other members of the pantheon having the same origins - Fen'Harel seems to be set apart in his ambiguity. Ghilan'nain specified as being "uplifted". Others supposedly children to Mythal. Something to consider however, certainly.
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Just finished Masked Empire and I believe it was Felessan implied that Briala might be seen as a God. Briala is someone who has a lot of knowledge sure, but big world changing knowledge that would preclude further interactions(probably not).
Anywhooo...just really hoping his involvement is something like that. Small in the scope of his time, revolutionary perhaps...only elevated to Godhood and game changing status over the course of thousands of years of telephone. In my head this could mean DLC for him is a distinct possibility.
Ah! This supports what I was saying about the connection between Solas and Briala in my previous post, too.
I shall name all following dwarf PC's and their weapons Sister Squish in your honor.
'The Stone lives beneath Orlais' sounds like one of those lines you'd expect to be handled in Inquisition.
It seems only fair that we find out about the Stone soon, indeed!
Also, in the Tower card .. the wolf is huge, black ... like that's his dominant personality now. In the romance card the wolf is smaller, the elf is larger. Or maybe I'm reading too much into that.
I noticed that too and wondered if it symbolized anything.
It's a battlemaster set made with silverite to remove class distinctions. And of course it looks like he picked it out of an alienage rag bag. Sadly it also has the male elf arm bug, so that in cutscenes he sometimes looks deformed.What armor is he wearing in that pic? I don't recognize it...
Also, in the Tower card .. the wolf is huge, black ... like that's his dominant personality now. In the romance card the wolf is smaller, the elf is larger. Or maybe I'm reading too much into that.
I think I read somewhere that if you're his friend, his card also turns to the hierophant one or do you only get that if he's romanced?
It's a battlemaster set made with silverite to remove class distinctions. And of course it looks like he picked it out of an alienage rag bag. Sadly it also has the male elf arm bug, so that in cutscenes he sometimes looks deformed.
Side note: The sads in these shots kills me. Have a happy hobo to offset.
Every time I catch my screenshots from the end of the battle my heart plummets through the floor at lightning speed. It's the saddest of sads.
I noticed that too and wondered if it symbolized anything.
I think it's proof that the romance meant something to him.
I think I read somewhere that if you're his friend, his card also turns to the hierophant one or do you only get that if he's romanced?
That's romance-only. If a friend!inquisitor got it then it's a bug.
I think I read somewhere that if you're his friend, his card also turns to the hierophant one or do you only get that if he's romanced?
My human mage and him were pretty good buddies and I got the Tower card.
Yeah, Hold Position also only works sometimes on the console. (But I suspect that they disabled it deliberately for some situations.) But I cannot judge the PC version. I've heard it's a pain in the neck. On the console you can use the tactical camera and plan your every move so it's probably a whole different feeling.I would probably agree with you except that I still have such issues with what they've done to the PC combat system. They've made it sooo much harder to get your party to do what you want, I've spent entire battles screaming at them to just hold bloody still.
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Have a happy hobo to offset.
It's little things like this that make it hard for me to believe Solas and Lavellan never had sex. It's like he pretends to have his indomitable self control...except he loses control in battle (lighting his breeches on fire), getting tipsy at Halamshiral, at the mages who killed his spirit friend (don't blame him for being pissed, just saying), every time you touch him he can't help but kiss you...etcetera. I mean, my Lavellan wouldn't have kept her hands to herself for that long and I can't imagine he could help himself. And yet the story does seem to indicate they never actually got it on,though it is slightly open to interpretation. IMO
It pretty obvious they don't. But I can't say I'm surprised. If you look at the elven culture in previous games intimacy on that level is rather 'sacred'. Merrills a virgin, and the romance between the Dalish elves in DA:O is just 'kindergardensih'. They haven't even kissed.
And then that's without Solas little dillemma of knowing its wrong all along...
BTW; I just made a rather interesting discovery. Maybe it's old news but its new for me. During my latest playthrough I'm playing an elven female mage that's intended for Cullen (Have to try his romance after all, being the fangirl I am) I've just reached the attack at Haven wich my IQ says Corry can have her if it saves the village. Now to my discovery; when I made that line with my Solas romancing elf he dissaproved rather strongly but this time theres no reaction from him, neither good nor bad. i thought then that it was beacuse my IQ carried the mark, but maybe that wasn't why...
I find that very interesting...
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It's little things like this that make it hard for me to believe Solas and Lavellan never had sex. It's like he pretends to have his indomitable self control...except he loses control in battle (lighting his breeches on fire), getting tipsy at Halamshiral, at the mages who killed his spirit friend (don't blame him for being pissed, just saying), every time you touch him he can't help but kiss you...etcetera. I mean, my Lavellan wouldn't have kept her hands to herself for that long and I can't imagine he could help himself. And yet the story does seem to indicate they never actually got it on,though it is slightly open to interpretation. IMO
They are. The tower and the hierophant are cards very much opposed to one another. The tower demands change by tearing the structure down, while the hierophant encourages to stay the course and not take hasty action.
I know the official tarot labels his romanced card as Hierophant, but I can't help thinking The Fool is a better post-game fit. The bonus symbolism of his "stepping from the physical world into the Void" is too good not to raise an eyebrow at Gaider & co, intended or not.
On that note, does anyone with the deck know what the official DA Fool card is?
All this talk about happy and sad endings...
I want a Scooby Doo ending!
The Tower card sure makes it look like Solas and the spirit of the Dread Wolf are separate entities, however bound. Or perhaps Solas really does cast a gigantic six eyed shadow.
In the Tower Card, it looks like the black wolf is overwhelming him; they're in the Fade, away from the real world. In the other, the wolf is walking alongside Solas out in nature, in the real world.
I think it's almost like that story - whichever wolf you feed is the one that wins. Romanced Solas - he becomes more in-tuned with reality. Non-romanced - he's a bit distant, and daydreamy.
I'm not saying a romanced path should be the only chance for resolve at all, I just think it may be more difficult to dissuade him from his goal if...when...we get that chance. My Trevelyan is very fond of Solas, she doesn't want him to destroy himself to accomplish whatever he's doing.
A little of both I think. What I got from Mythal/Flemeth is she very much has a dual nature...maybe that comes from Mythal being merged with Flemeth, who was once mortal, or being consort to Elgar'nan...or maybe because all spirits/gods have a dual nature to them. She is a protector and represents justice, but her help comes at a cost (always has a catch) and she also represents vengeance. She represents nature and rebirth, so therefore she must also represent death--nurturing but vengeful.
Morrigan misunderstands her intentions and thinks she wants to steal her body as a hostile takeover, but I don't believe Flemeth sees it that way. She seems genuinely hurt when Morri calls her a bad mother. I also find it interesting how Morri is surprised (and somewhat appalled) Flemeth would consider possessing a male, when she finds out Flemeth wants her son.
I like Morrigan's character development a lot, in the world state where she has Kieran. She seems bound and determined to be a different sort of mother, which fits nicely with the theme of Morrigan representing the new goddess/mother figure for the new age. She has some different and new ideas on how to approach the world.
Has anyone seen American Horror Story, the 3rd season "Coven"? Reminds me a bit of the relationship between Cordelia and Fiona.
No mother wants their child to tell them that. Flemythal's parenting was harsh...but it was intended that way.
"She's a girl who thinks she knows what-is-what better than I or anyone. And why not? I raised her to be as she is, I don't expect her to be anything less."
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