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[Prince of Keys]

Hmm. Thanks. Is the artwork the same as in the game? Because I'm not seeing 4 of coins in it either. Maybe I haven't seen enough decks.... Really wish I had the DA deck for myself

 

The elf cards in the deck look like this:

[AutumnOracle]

When will Bioware announce DLC and stop toying with my heart

 

Seriously.  I did the math for DA:2.  They had announced DAI at two months and had the first DLC at 4 months.  We're past 2 months now.  Please just some details.  Please???  I can find sprinkles to put on top if that sweetens the deal.  I am dying for any news on the DLC front.

[tsunamitigerdragon]

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[Addai]

Every time I catch my screenshots from the end of the battle my heart plummets through the floor at lightning speed. It's the saddest of sads.

He's so devastated. I didn't realize it until I took screenshots and looked at them. I guess it goes by so fast in the game.
 

It pretty obvious they don't. But I can't say I'm surprised. If you look at the elven culture in previous games intimacy on that level is rather 'sacred'. Merrills a virgin, and the romance between the Dalish elves in DA:O is just 'kindergardensih'. They haven't even kissed.
And then that's without Solas little dillemma of knowing its wrong all along...

Eh, what? To me it's blatantly obvious that they do. He talks about her "enjoyable side benefits" pretty casually. But I think this is an area we leave to personal interpretation, as the writer intended.
 
And ack- please, please don't use Cammen and Gheyna as evidence of anything, or I'll have to hate the Dalish.   Merrill says she was isolated from the clan because she was First, and she's socially awkward, but that's not going to be the case with all Dalish. I definitely headcanon Mahariel x Tamlen having shaken the shrubbery.
 

BTW; I just made a rather interesting discovery. Maybe it's old news but its new for me. During my latest playthrough I'm playing an elven female mage that's intended for Cullen _{(Have to try his romance after all, being the fangirl I am)}  I've just reached the attack at Haven wich my IQ says Corry can have her if it saves the village. Now to my discovery; when I made that line with my Solas romancing elf he dissaproved rather strongly but this time theres no reaction from him, neither good nor bad. i thought then that it was beacuse my IQ carried the mark, but maybe that wasn't why...  
 
I find that very interesting...

I'm sure he also gave disapproval when my human rogue said this. In fact I know he did, because I registered it along with Blackwall approving. Maybe there's some randomness or it's based on approval level when you pick that option.

I never noticed that the wolf had such adorable ears!

Also, I love Solas' outfit in that pic, I hope we see him wearing that or something similar in game.   It looks so noble, I bet it's what he used to wear in ancient times and court intrigue!

I really, really want a wolf companion. Pleeeease Biowaaaare! My Dalish ranger in DAO always had a wolf summon with her. Lavellan just has to get one, and a big fluffy white one like in Solas' tarot.

[Illyria]

Patch 3 is out.  All New, Faded For Her is fixed, but not that mythical third quest.

[Caddius]

Whoa, those are interesting.  The only pseudo-explanation I can offer is that they might have been getting close to the actual heart of the Stone.  (The thrumming quakes and audible Song being its heartbeat.)  In that context, the thaig and the pillars of lyrium may not have been entirely inexplicable... perhaps shaped from the heart itself.  

 

Really good point about the Archdemons' "learning curve".  That's something I can't explain, unless there's still a dream path open and Falon'Din is still able to... uh, steer them a bit.  Totally reaching there, though.   

 

OH!  One more thing about the Qunari and the Egypt-or-Mesoamerica question.  It's not definitive by any stretch, but I noticed the overall pattern matches up pretty well if you flip the map....

 

 

Doesn't completely nix the idea of Fex = Maya/Aztec, but if the overall pattern of fade/game world = basic rules of reality but twisted, there's a good chance we'll be dealing with something more classically Egyptian.  

Sorry to nitpick and for catching up so later, but I have a few adjustments.

Free Marches=Holy Roman Empire. (A group of former 'barbarians' in a very loose confederation that quarrel with each other but often band together against invaders with an impressive army? Bordered by the French and Italian analogues? They just lack an Emperor, though there's certainly been a few who've tried to change that.)

 

Rivain=Moorish Spain. Moorish Spain was a melting pot of Islam, Christianity, and Judaism, and surprisingly tolerant. The collaboration between the three groups of religions in economics and scholarship allowed them to achieve astonishing successes. There were times things got more violent, of course, and the Reconquista/Free Marces match up.

 

Antiva=Italian city-states with Spanish influence. The Antivans are only nominally held by a king's power, and merchant-princes hold most of the power. Real life Italy made do without a king for the Middle Ages, generally speaking. The focus on guilds, ships, commerce, and a mixture of Italian and Spanish accents points to a realistic blend of Italy and Spain. After all, the Spanish conquered and oversaw parts of Italy for quite some time.

 

Nevarra=Austria: Nevarra was formerly a Free Marches state that has ascended. It now has a rather strong monarchy and is a leader on the world stage in its own right, and frequently butts heads with Orlais, and tries to take over the rest of the Free Marches. Strange burial rights aside, they're Austria, complete with their own version of the Hapsburgs, the Pentaghasts.

 

Anderfels=Prussia. A Germanic, highly religious warrior people, influenced more by the leader of an Order that's as badass as it is scary ruthless than by any king or lord? Are we talking about the Anders or the Prussians under the Teutonic Order? This analogue, taken to a further logical extent, would make uncomfortable and extremely unkind comparisons between darkspawn and pagan Lithuanians, but it would still fit the average Teutonic Knight's perspective. The city names are things like Hossberg, furthering the Germanic comparison.

 

Tevinter=History of Roman Civilization+Blood Magic: The ancient Neromenian tribes are the Latin tribes of Central Italy. Tevinter, through diplomacy and war, absorbs them all. They take over and absorb the culture of their more advanced neighboring civilization, the Greeks/Arlathan. Including many elements of their religion, though they change the names and add many elements of their own mythology in. They begin conquering Thedas, reaching their height as the Tevinter/Roman Empire. Eventually, constant power struggles within begin to tear them down. They suffer a prolonged collapse, but are so fiercely determined that ruling the world is their birthright that, no matter how many thousands of years go by, they survive. Modern Tevinter is the Byzantine Empire, if they'd stayed in Italy instead of Greece. More specifically, it's what would have happened if the Siege of Constantinople by Mehmet II had failed due to a combined force of Catholic Alliance and ex-patriate Tevinter forces driving the Ottomans off. (At one point, the Qunari reduced the Imperium to Minrathous, but could never break the city. I guess magic proved the hard-counter to the bombards.)

 

Seheron doesn't bring any place to mind, but Sicily was certainly fought over enough by Byzantines, Italians, Normans, Arabs, Turks, and Spaniards to make a comparison.

 

Par Vollen: Impressively the Qunari pose a similar threat to the Caliphate of old, while only occupying that tiny island and Seheron. So yeah, North Africa, including Egypt, as well as Iran and Mesopotamia and the like.

 

Donarks=Indian Jungle. The Tevinters get their war elephants from here. Not enough is known about the Donarks beyond the one Grey Warden from there talking about consuming the blood of their enemies to gain their strength, which honestly seems to be pretty commonplace. 

 

Orlais and Ferelden are spot on France and England, with the added caveat that the Orlesian Occupation mimics the Norman Invasion, managing to influence culture and politics for a longtime, even fashion, but in this case it was thrown out. Basically an uglier version of the old English/French rivalry, due to them not having the Channel between them.

[tsunamitigerdragon]

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[HurricaneGinger]

Patch 3 is out.  All New, Faded For Her is fixed, but not that mythical third quest.

 

[Illyria]

Do you have a link to the patch notes? Last I checked they were close but not complete.

http://blog.bioware....-patch-3-notes/

 

I just booted up my game and didn't get an update, so it may not quite be ready yet.

 

EDIT:  I missed the word 'upcoming'.

[tsunamitigerdragon]

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[AutumnOracle]

Not Solas related...but doesn't look like the patch will fix the broken mosiac piece in the Hinterlands. So kind of Solas related that I can't get the mosiac finished and figure out if the Codex related to it adds anything to his info...

 

Edit: Top of Page Solas

 

[Addai]

I always associated the Free Marches with the Hansa league. Loose confederation of independent trading states. HRE doesn't make much sense since the Free Marches don't even pretend to be unified.

Other stuff I agree with, except they seem to be blending in East India with Tevinter, judging by the accents on Dorian and his father.

[AutumnOracle]

Maybe we could get lucky and get some info relating to DLC/expansions when they go to PAX next weekend.  

[Kappa Neko]

Also, in the Tower card .. the wolf is huge, black ... like that's his dominant personality now.   In the romance card the wolf is smaller, the elf is larger.  Or maybe I'm reading too much into that.

 

In the Tower Card, it looks like the black wolf is overwhelming him; they're in the Fade, away from the real world. In the other, the wolf is walking alongside Solas out in nature, in the real world.

 

I think it's almost like that story - whichever wolf you feed is the one that wins. Romanced Solas - he becomes more in-tuned with reality. Non-romanced - he's a bit distant, and daydreamy. 

 

I'm not saying a romanced path should be the only chance for resolve at all, I just think it may be more difficult to dissuade him from his goal if...when...we get that chance. My Trevelyan is very fond of Solas, she doesn't want him to destroy himself to accomplish whatever he's doing.

 

I agree. And it makes sense that the romance softens him up and makes him question his plan to the point of almost abandoning it. It establishes a positive connection with current Thedas and pulls him away from his grim fatalistic thoughts. Lavellan tames the dark wolf side, gives him hope that there might be a brighter fate than lonely death awaiting him, and Thedas . She makes him feel "human" again.

 

It just seems sad and unfair that only romantic love can do the trick and save Solas from himself. Some might find that very romantic, but it would render any friendship meaningless and I'd hate that. Solas can be impressed with a non-romanced inquisitor too, right? Doesn't make sense to me that everyone else gets the scary wolf card.

 

This is Bioware though, it probably won't really matter that much in the end *g* Would be cool, but I have my doubts.

 

[Moirin]

That was the response I picked, still got the card. Were you able to talk to him about the breakup at Skyhold? I did notice when I was playing through that one of the options seemed to glitch, and I was no longer able to talk about the romance and it acted like it was not engaged. [And this was not by picking the break up option before he did.]

 

Sounds like a bug. 

 

Welp, tried it again. This time it's locked on the romance card instead of the Tower. Seems like it was just that one playthrough that bugged.

[Addai]

Not Solas related...but doesn't look like the patch will fix the broken mosiac piece in the Hinterlands. So kind of Solas related that I can't get the mosiac finished and figure out if the Codex related to it adds anything to his info...

Ugh, that patch looks completely useless. Only thing I've experienced on there is sometimes you can't switch to other party members. Reloading always fixed that.

All that multiplayer stuff makes me madface.

[Sister Squish]

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Orlais and Ferelden are spot on France and England, with the added caveat that the Orlesian Occupation mimics the Norman Invasion, managing to influence culture and politics for a longtime, even fashion, but in this case it was thrown out. Basically an uglier version of the old English/French rivalry, due to them not having the Channel between them.

 

English here, and can confirm the right-at-home feel of Ferelden (and the tingling-in-the-spine brought on by Orlesian accents!   )

[drake2511]

More party banter! YAY!

[dragondreamer]

I guess they're fixing the immortal Pride demon that shouldn't be there...  I tried fighting it after Solas went away... 

 

Fixed issue that could result in party members not following orders to revive a party member in Tactical Camera mode.

 

 

That's nice, it always annoyed me that you could order them to do that, but they'd just ignore it.

 

Fixed issue that could result in people being unable to discover all the regions in the Exalted Plains.

 

The legendary Area 21! 

 

Fixed issue that could cause Varric’s legs to do odd things in some opt-in conversations.

 

 

Aw, I always thought that was hilarious.

[Tielis]

When I played DAO a few years ago I did not feel that Morrigan started out thinking she was a bad mother. When she speaks of her childhood she seems rather fond of Flemeth. She enjoyed fooling Templars, she enjoyed being raised in the Wilds, she seemed happy (even if a little lonely, maybe). Also when she and Flemeth part there is some sadness/melancholia. It is only when she discovers about the transfer of Flemeth's soul into new bodies that she becomes all aggressive against her. I am replaying DAO now and again this is the feeling I get.

 

Well, the last time I played through was about 4 months ago, but my memory isn't what it used to be.  

 

The feeling I get from both Morrigan's dialogues is that Flemeth's parenting skills boil down to "emotions aren't important -- only survival is".  Morrigan even parrots that back to you before you get under her skin.

 

Then there's the scene in the Fade where demon-Flemeth slaps Morrigan in the face and Morrigan says, "That's more like it."

[Tielis]

It pretty obvious they don't. But I can't say I'm surprised. If you look at the elven culture in previous games intimacy on that level is rather 'sacred'. Merrills a virgin, and the romance between the Dalish elves in DA:O is just 'kindergardensih'. They haven't even kissed.

And then that's without Solas little dillemma of knowing its wrong all along...

 

BTW; I just made a rather interesting discovery. Maybe it's old news but its new for me. During my latest playthrough I'm playing an elven female mage that's intended for Cullen _{(Have to try his romance after all, being the fangirl I am)}  I've just reached the attack at Haven wich my IQ says Corry can have her if it saves the village. Now to my discovery; when I made that line with my Solas romancing elf he dissaproved rather strongly but this time theres no reaction from him, neither good nor bad. i thought then that it was beacuse my IQ carried the mark, but maybe that wasn't why...  

 

I find that very interesting...

 

I'd love to see some documentation on this since apparently I missed all of it.

[Addai]

When I played DAO a few years ago I did not feel that Morrigan started out thinking she was a bad mother. When she speaks of her childhood she seems rather fond of Flemeth. She enjoyed fooling Templars, she enjoyed being raised in the Wilds, she seemed happy (even if a little lonely, maybe). Also when she and Flemeth part there is some sadness/melancholia. It is only when she discovers about the transfer of Flemeth's soul into new bodies that she becomes all aggressive against her. I am replaying DAO now and again this is the feeling I get.

Have you ever taken Morrigan into the Fade? Pretty apparent there what she thinks of Flemeth as parent. Also when she talks to Alistair about Flemeth's "company." (sorry, ninja'ed)

[dragondreamer]

Flemeth's Sarah Conner to Morrigan's John Conner.  That's what I started thinking of after we learned more about Flemythal.

[OxidantsHappen]

 

 

Tevinter=History of Roman Civilization+Blood Magic: The ancient Neromenian tribes are the Latin tribes of Central Italy. Tevinter, through diplomacy and war, absorbs them all. They take over and absorb the culture of their more advanced neighboring civilization, the Greeks/Arlathan. Including many elements of their religion, though they change the names and add many elements of their own mythology in. They begin conquering Thedas, reaching their height as the Tevinter/Roman Empire. Eventually, constant power struggles within begin to tear them down. They suffer a prolonged collapse, but are so fiercely determined that ruling the world is their birthright that, no matter how many thousands of years go by, they survive. Modern Tevinter is the Byzantine Empire, if they'd stayed in Italy instead of Greece. More specifically, it's what would have happened if the Siege of Constantinople by Mehmet II had failed due to a combined force of Catholic Alliance and ex-patriate Tevinter forces driving the Ottomans off. (At one point, the Qunari reduced the Imperium to Minrathous, but could never break the city. I guess magic proved the hard-counter to the bombards.)

 

I love that you're comparing Arlathan with Greece. My family moved here from Greece & this comparison makes me all fuzzy.  It totally explains the noses.  And the drama.  S'agapo

[Avejajed]

I always thought Arlathan was a mix between the fall of the Roman Empire and the myths of Atlantis.