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[WildSky214]

During the destruction of Haven quest, when you're supposed to be turning the trebuchet, I noticed that while my Lavellan was turning it and not fighting, romanced Solas was right next to her the whole time launching spells at incoming enemies. It was probably a coincidence, but the way he was positioned was just so cute!

 

On a side note side, when I did a Sera romance playthrough, the exact same thing happened, but its most likely because they're both ranged fighters.

 

 

A little off-topic, sorry, but I haven't seen very many smooth transitions here.

[Sah291]

I agree. And it makes sense that the romance softens him up and makes him question his plan to the point of almost abandoning it. It establishes a positive connection with current Thedas and pulls him away from his grim fatalistic thoughts. Lavellan tames the dark wolf side, gives him hope that there might be a brighter fate than lonely death awaiting him, and Thedas . She makes him feel "human" again.
 
It just seems sad and unfair that only romantic love can do the trick and save Solas from himself. Some might find that very romantic, but it would render any friendship meaningless and I'd hate that. Solas can be impressed with a non-romanced inquisitor too, right? Doesn't make sense to me that everyone else gets the scary wolf card.
 
This is Bioware though, it probably won't really matter that much in the end *g* Would be cool, but I have my doubts.

I don't know, the tower card isn't always negative, even though it is scary, so hopefully there is a chance for a positive outcome either way. I've read the hierophant is a really good card to come up in a romantic context...so I'm going with team optimism...for now.

[buyachakka]

By the dread wolf! You guys are fast with your postings... I can barely keep up

 

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I am not sure if it suits Solas/Lavellan but there is a beautiful song by Kodaline (an irish group) and there
in the comment section is this specific comment that hit my little Solas-heart:

Person A: One of the most beautiful and honest song about love, heartbreak, and moving on. I get chills at 3:40. It's like all the pain and hurt is expelled. 

Person B: Like a pack of wolves who lost a part of themselves and howling in the dark cold silent night under the moon. That's what I fell at that moment

[BoscoBread]

 

BTW; I just made a rather interesting discovery. Maybe it's old news but its new for me. During my latest playthrough I'm playing an elven female mage that's intended for Cullen _{(Have to try his romance after all, being the fangirl I am)}  I've just reached the attack at Haven wich my IQ says Corry can have her if it saves the village. Now to my discovery; when I made that line with my Solas romancing elf he dissaproved rather strongly but this time theres no reaction from him, neither good nor bad. i thought then that it was beacuse my IQ carried the mark, but maybe that wasn't why...  

 

I find that very interesting...

 I got that on my human mage and friend Lavellan.  Solas likes when you think before your act - that's why you get all the approval when you ask questions.  So when you say 'NO BIG GUYS! I'LL DIE FOR YOU" even though you have no real understanding why Corypheus is there and what he wants, Solas is going to disapprove of your stupidity.  The Inquisitor holds his mark and if you die then so does the magic so to lose it all for a bit of heroics - he's not impressed.

[NightSymphony]

I am so glad they are fixing Varric's legs....that drives me crazy!!

[Sifr]

I don't know, the tower card isn't always negative, even though it is scary, so hopefully there is a chance for a positive outcome either way. I've read the hierophant is a really good card to come up in a romantic context...so I'm going with team optimism...for now.

 

Exactly, the Tower card can be interpreted as a sign that change is imminent and to quote Morrigan;

 

"Sometimes, change is what they need the most. Sometimes, change is what sets them free"

[Moirin]

I don't know, the tower card isn't always negative, even though it is scary, so hopefully there is a chance for a positive outcome either way. I've read the hierophant is a really good card to come up in a romantic context...so I'm going with team optimism...for now.

 

The hierophant is definitely a better card to have than the tower, but I wonder where the people that chose these cards took their interpretations from? I recall one of the Devs comparing the romances to Persona 4, so if they got the tarot card ideas from that then the meaning that was intended for some of these might be slightly different than a more traditional interpretation of the tarot that we all seem to be expecting.

[Kappa Neko]

If we don't get a the possibility of a good ending like the Morrimancers did I will be most annoyed.  If male wardens get the option of having a happily ever after with their morally ambigous apostate partner, then so should Lavellans.

The situation with Solas might be a tiny bit more complicated^^

They could make it work somehow though I guess. The DLC could certainly have Solas reveal his true identity. And then turn their romance into an epic us-against-the-world type of suicidal lover's crusade. *g*

Problem with that is, I doubt the inquisitor will return in DA4. So she'd have to be on the sidelines somehow like the warden. It will still need to be Solas' mission. But would Lavellan really not want to be at his side for this? The warden is probably a lot cooler with letting Morrigan follow her nebulous goals. She doesn't seem to have a specific plan that could potentially get everyone killed. She seems to be doing research and experiments mostly. She somehow wants to preserve the old gods and change society but she's clearly still rather clueless what's really going on at the end of the game. If I was the warden, I would probably find it adorable. Now Solas, he needs somebody to watch him closely and keep the wolf on a tight leash or we're all doomed.

 

Then again, now that he's absorbed Mythal, he might not be the same person anymore...

Hm, I'm not convinced there will be a Wolf Hunt DLC. I'd like one but I don't need one. I accept that he has chosen duty over love. I pray he will remember my Lavellan when the moment for big decisions comes...
 

[HurricaneGinger]

During the destruction of Haven quest, when you're supposed to be turning the trebuchet, I noticed that while my Lavellan was turning it and not fighting, romanced Solas was right next to her the whole time launching spells at incoming enemies. It was probably a coincidence, but the way he was positioned was just so cute!

 

On a side note side, when I did a Sera romance playthrough, the exact same thing happened, but its most likely because they're both ranged fighters.

 

 

A little off-topic, sorry, but I haven't seen very many smooth transitions here.

 

It could be coincidence, but I do noticed that Solas - like Zevran - stays relatively close to the player, even when you toggle his tactics. Whether he's friends with them or not, he knows the Inquisitor is literally the only person in Thedas that can stop whatever is happening, so he protects them.

 

and i am still so in love with the fact that he watches lavellan even when she's looking away just omg 

[LliiraAnna]

The hierophant is definitely a better card to have than the tower, but I wonder where the people that chose these cards took their interpretations from? I recall one of the Devs comparing the romances to Persona 4, so if they got the tarot card ideas from that then the meaning that was intended for some of these might be slightly different than a more traditional interpretation of the tarot that we all seem to be expecting.

Persona 3 was what got me into this whole tarot thing. But as far as I remember, none of the Persona romances - or frienships, etc. - resulted in someone actually changing cards. It's rather... they started out as a "twisted", wrong version of their arcana and were restored to their "proper" state by the end of their character arc. So DAI is still different. 

[Kappa Neko]

I don't know, the tower card isn't always negative, even though it is scary, so hopefully there is a chance for a positive outcome either way. I've read the hierophant is a really good card to come up in a romantic context...so I'm going with team optimism...for now.

I know nothing about Tarot. Just went with the scary as hell picture *g* But good to know!

[Janic99]

Here. Have an adorable flycam kiss moment :3

[jawsisinmywc]

Well, the last time I played through was about 4 months ago, but my memory isn't what it used to be.  

 

The feeling I get from both Morrigan's dialogues is that Flemeth's parenting skills boil down to "emotions aren't important -- only survival is".  Morrigan even parrots that back to you before you get under her skin.

 

Then there's the scene in the Fade where demon-Flemeth slaps Morrigan in the face and Morrigan says, "That's more like it."

The story Morrigan tells the HoF about the mirror and how her mother broke it always got to me in DAO.

[Moirin]

Persona 3 was what got me into this whole tarot thing. But as far as I remember, none of the Persona romances - or frienships, etc. - resulted in someone actually changing cards. It's rather... they started out as a "twisted", wrong version of their arcana and were restored to their "proper" state by the end of their character arc. So DAI is still different. 

 

This is true, but I'm not talking about the romanced changing their tarot, I'm talking about the "main theme" each tarot seems to take in the Persona series. For example, the Hierophant social link in Persona 3, is the old couple (also Shinjiro Aragaki's Persona is classed a Hierophant, even if his social link with the female is the Moon), in Persona 4 it's Dojima, all these people have one theme in common, a regret from their past that they need to accept/move on from. That's why it makes me wonder if they went for the Persona interpretations.

[_Lucinia]

http://blog.bioware....-patch-3-notes/

 

I just booted up my game and didn't get an update, so it may not quite be ready yet.

 

EDIT:  I missed the word 'upcoming'.

Awww looks like they fixed Varric's squats in Haven.  I kinda loved that bug, it looked so odd, gave me the giggles.

[miraclemight]

I'm laughing because this has happened to me too, with a -third- giant coming up after the first two finally went down (luckily). This may have been my fault though, because I was rolling with a three mage party just for fun and ...well, the fireworks were pretty at least?

 

Are we talking about the Emerald Graves? Because this definitely sounds like a nightmare of a fight I had as I tried to get the landmarks. What started the fiasco was the passive ability, Stormbringer, which 'came to my aid' by zapping every living thing in the area. 

 

I never, ever, got that ability again.

 

On a side note - I recall someone mentioning having spare AO3 invites? If that is still the case, I can sure use one. Sifting through all the bookmarked fics to check for updates is no small feat without receiving update alerts.

[Rabbitonfire]

I'm reading the patch notes and the only quests they fixed were sera's and dorian? Where are you finding the solas' quest notes?

[Little Mama]

He's so devastated. I didn't realize it until I took screenshots and looked at them. I guess it goes by so fast in the game.
 
Eh, what? To me it's blatantly obvious that they do. He talks about her "enjoyable side benefits" pretty casually. But I think this is an area we leave to personal interpretation, as the writer intended.
 
And ack- please, please don't use Cammen and Gheyna as evidence of anything, or I'll have to hate the Dalish.   Merrill says she was isolated from the clan because she was First, and she's socially awkward, but that's not going to be the case with all Dalish. I definitely headcanon Mahariel x Tamlen having shaken the shrubbery.
 
 

 

"enjoyable side benefits" that's just flirting. It has nothing to do with them having sex. 

Hey, I hated those two too. I'm just giving an example to the Dalish culture from previous games.  

Besides, if BioWare has taken anything from the original elves that turns up everywhere, it should likely be their purity.

And there's more to love than just being physical... 

[Little Mama]

Here. Have an adorable flycam kiss moment :3

 

Have you already mooded the game? That's not Solas usual outfit.. 

[miraclemight]

I'm reading the patch notes and the only quests they fixed were sera's and dorian? Where are you finding the solas' quest notes?

 

I didn't have any problem with Dorian's quest up until today: went to the tavern, it was empty, but his father wasn't there. Going outside and trying again ended with the same result... 

[dragondreamer]

Andruil trying to make Fen'Harel into her sex slave doesn't sound terribly "pure".

 

Mahariel was also a lovechild of a forbidden affair.  Just because cultural norms exist doesn't mean they're followed.  And Fen'Harel is the "rebel wolf", after all.

[_Lucinia]

"enjoyable side benefits" that's just flirting. It has nothing to do with them having sex. 

Hey, I hated those two too. I'm just giving an example to the Dalish culture from previous games.  

Besides, if BioWare has taken anything from the original elves that turns up everywhere, it should likely be their purity.

And there's more to love than just being physical... 

Solas isn't Dalish though.  We have no way to know that the Ancient Elves and the "gods" were chaste or pure.  So it's still open to player interpretation.  Anyone that sees it as confirmation of the frick-frack snick-snack wouldn't be wrong, for their play through.  

 

Apologies if I misunderstood this conversation, I am kind of just butting in.

[LliiraAnna]

This is true, but I'm not talking about the romanced changing their tarot, I'm talking about the "main theme" each tarot seems to take in the Persona series. For example, the Hierophant social link in Persona 3, is the old couple (also Shinjiro Aragaki's Persona is classed a Hierophant, even if his social link with the female is the Moon), in Persona 4 it's Dojima, all these people have one theme in common, a regret from their past that they need to accept/move on from. That's why it makes me wonder if they went for the Persona interpretations.

So I went to tvtropes to refresh my memory, aaand:
 

Maya represents the Hermit S. Link, which begins when Junpei gives the MC a copy of the old MMORPG Innocent Sin. The link consists mainly of Maya not really understanding why she's so unmotivated regarding her career and social life and instead choosing to waste time on an MMO. In addition, her interactions with the MC consist largely of complaining about her coworkers, all the while dropping small hints regarding her identity and occupation. Her true identity is not revealed until the very last days of the game.

 

In tvtropes terms, Does This Remind You Of Anything? 

 

So... what you said might be at least partially true.

[Kryllian]

I didn't have any problem with Dorian's quest up until today: went to the tavern, it was empty, but his father wasn't there. Going outside and trying again ended with the same result...

You just keep going back in until it works, took me ten tries one play through.