Andruil trying to make Fen'Harel into her sex slave doesn't sound terribly "pure".
Mahariel was also a lovechild of a forbidden affair. Just because cultural norms exist doesn't mean they're followed. And Fen'Harel is the "rebel wolf", after all.
From tvtropes (again):
"If a female elf romances Sera, Solas comments that he finds it natural to desire a fellow elf and seems to fancy her himself, whether or not she has shown any interest at all."
'nuff said. 
The real question is: for being the god of mothers, why is Mythal/Flemeth raising such incorrigible children? It seems like every member of the Mythal/Flemeth 'line' needs some sort of extensive therapy.
Well anybody raised with an Ayn Rand personality in a world dictated by faith would naturally seem incorrigible.
Andruil trying to make Fen'Harel into her sex slave doesn't sound terribly "pure".
Mahariel was also a lovechild of a forbidden affair. Just because cultural norms exist doesn't mean they're followed. And Fen'Harel is the "rebel wolf", after all.
True. But if there were to have been anything like that between them, don't you think BW would have empathized it by given us a scen for it?
I think that the last *breakup* scen could have been it, but Solas realizes that if he does go through with it that would mean he needs to give up his own 'mission' and thereby lose himself, so he ends the romance before that happens.
Just my thought on the whole thing...
Have you already mooded the game? That's not Solas usual outfit..
http://www.nexusmods...n/?tb=mod&pUp=1
You won't be disappointed. 
This community is fantastic.
"Getting her into bed" isn't a sexual reference? I don't consider sex impure, and it annoys me when people consider elves ethereal beings whose farts don't smell. But that gets into areas of personal belief so like I said, whether they had a physical relationship or not is best left to personal interpretation. To me there's no doubt that they did, but Bioware chose to leave it open with Solas and that's fine. I'm sure some people would feel squicky about it given the deception in their relationship."enjoyable side benefits" that's just flirting. It has nothing to do with them having sex.
Hey, I hated those two too. I'm just giving an example to the Dalish culture from previous games.
Besides, if BioWare has taken anything from the original elves that turns up everywhere, it should likely be their purity.
And there's more to love than just being physical...
I don't think Dalish are necessarily pure as a rule, it just makes more sense to wait for a potential mate than to than to do it like rabbits since clans are so small. I mean, unless you go looking for another clan, your dating pool is pretty small. Imagine the bad feelings of the broken hearts for the ones you slept with but didn't want to mate for life with.
Hello Solasians. I have been reading in this forum for quite a while, but this is the first time I'm posting anything. I usually prefer to just be a silent onlooker and observe conversation rather than participating, but recently I've realized I have a very real (really stupid) problem that I can't really talk to anyone about. (sorry for making my first post a dramatic one, but I have few options and you all seem very nice) It revolves around the DAI Solas romance in contrast to relationships I've had in the past. I've decided it would be easier in the long run to explain my past relationship experiences to someone who understands my feelings about Solas as opposed to trying to explain my feelings about Solas to someone who understands my relationship history. I am not looking for advice or counsel so much as I am looking for someone to simply understand what I'm currently going through.
My issue: in the game, Solas invarriably breaks it off with a female elven inquisitor in attempt to save her from his fate, as I'm sure you all well know by now. Indeed, I knew this, too, going in to my second playthrough (my first playthrough was as a human so I did not have that option the first go-round, though that slick elven bastard had already stolen my heart within five minutes of opening his mouth.) "It won't be a problem." i told myself. "I already know this will happen, so I can prepare myself for sadness and it won't hurt. Besides, it's just a game, right? It will be fine."
It was nt fine. Watching Solas break up with my very own, handcrafted to look cute standing next to him, Levellan, watching his expressions change as he does the inevitable--something the game makes it clear he does not want to do-- completely broke my heart. Because I've been that guy (or girl, rather) I've been the one who broke up with someone I was completely in love with and would have been happy to spend the rest of my life with because I wanted to "save them" from themself--and from me. Being able to see that from both sides, from Solas's and from Lavellan's, shouuld have made it easier for me, but it didn't. In my experience, ending the relationship made everything about a thousand times worse for both of us. Had I have known, I would have just stayed with him and stuck it out...
Maybe Solas didn't have that option, but another thing the relationship did not have (as with my relationship) was closure. I feel like, in no way can this end well for Lavellan. Solas broke off the relationship. He is moving on to do what he thinks needs to be done, leaving her behind with no rationale as to why the relationship even ended in the first place. Now she has all these feelings and has no idea what to do with them, which is a really difficult place to be when you are also trying to do something of import such as lead an inquisition. More or less all I'm hoping is that she will be granted the closure that she needs, otherwise she's just sort of stuck.
Thank you for reading my post. I'm thinking about starting some fanfic to kind of explore all these risidual feelings left over from the game, which I've never done before, but now seems like as good a time as any to start, considering how I have all these headcannons inspired from my own experiences in the matter, such as Solas possibly forgetting he had broken things off with Lavellan, going to reach for her, she being accepting of the advance, thinking the tides were turning, and then him remembering and drawing back. I hope they provide Solas DLC soon. Patience is hard.
I didn't have any problem with Dorian's quest up until today: went to the tavern, it was empty, but his father wasn't there. Going outside and trying again ended with the same result...
I have solas outfit mod and lavellans outfit mod, hair color mod, hd eye texture mod + vallaslin mod + face texture mod for lavellan 
"enjoyable side benefits" that's just flirting. It has nothing to do with them having sex.
Hey, I hated those two too. I'm just giving an example to the Dalish culture from previous games.
Besides, if BioWare has taken anything from the original elves that turns up everywhere, it should likely be their purity.
And there's more to love than just being physical...
Getting you into bed is an enjoyable side benefit of one of my personality traits sounds like more than just flirting to me. Also no one ever denied that there is more to love then being physical, but that doesn't mean being physical with each other needs to be treated a such a horrible villainous thing.
And anyway it doesn't matter, Weekes said it's up to each player, if your Lavellan and Solas didn't get intimate, then they didn't, but if I decide that mine did, then they did.
So I went to tvtropes to refresh my memory, aaand:
"Maya represents the Hermit S. Link, which begins when Junpei gives the MC a copy of the old MMORPG Innocent Sin. The link consists mainly of Maya not really understanding why she's so unmotivated regarding her career and social life and instead choosing to waste time on an MMO. In addition, her interactions with the MC consist largely of complaining about her coworkers, all the while dropping small hints regarding her identity and occupation. Her true identity is not revealed until the very last days of the game."
In tvtropes terms, Does This Remind You Of Anything?
So... what you said might be at least partially true.
I'm not saying it's 100% the case, but some of the themes seems to match the Persona ones.
EDIT (for top Pic):
Solas isn't Dalish though. We have no way to know that the Ancient Elves and the "gods" were chaste or pure. So it's still open to player interpretation. Anyone that sees it as confirmation of the frick-frack snick-snack wouldn't be wrong, for their play through.
Apologies if I misunderstood this conversation, I am kind of just butting in.
No, he isn't but the IQ is. He's likelly enough knowledge of their ways to know what that would mean.
Honestly, I don't really like the thought that the romance should be all about that. As I said, love is about so much more than just sex. That you desire someone doesn't necessarily mean you have to jump the sack at first opertunity.
I'd like to think that the love between the IQ and Solas are more than just physical attraction. But maybe that's just me...
Now I feel old
Thanks, but I already know that. I'm just surprised that there are mods out already.
Sorry to nitpick and for catching up so later, but I have a few adjustments.
<snips awesomeness>
*grabs Caddius and does the crazy-eyed shake*
The next time you apologize for nitpicking, I hurt you. I don't have enough Thedas history under my belt to appreciate the fine details (time demands of work has me stalled out at WoT:1 p.50) but that was really interesting and no doubt a much better fit. Any chance you have time to whip up a more accurately labelled map to stick in the wiki? If not, I'll try to throw together a proper Caddius™ version when I can snag the time.
"enjoyable side benefits" that's just flirting. It has nothing to do with them having sex.
It's also a nice little callback to one of their earlier conversations in Haven and their flirtation over his use of the phrase "side benefits" when talking about their class, although now I think about it, it could also be Solas-speak for "Dat ass"...
No, he isn't but the IQ is. He's likelly enough knowledge of their ways to know what that would mean.
Honestly, I don't really like the thought that the romance should be all about that. As I said, love is about so much more than just sex. That you desire someone doesn't necessarily mean you have to jump the sack at first opertunity.
I'd like to think that the love between the IQ and Solas are more than just physical attraction. But maybe that's just me...
Now I feel old
It's not just you. You can decide for yourself how far their relationship went, and you wouldn't be wrong for it. Many contributors in this thread decided for their Lavellan they didn't have sex. Thankfully it's easy to make a decision like that because Patrick Weekes left it open for players to decide themselves. Love is more than sex, but imo sex is love.
But those that did decide they also had a physical relationship as well as a deep emotional one, are not wrong either.
And ack- please, please don't use Cammen and Gheyna as evidence of anything, or I'll have to hate the Dalish.
Merrill says she was isolated from the clan because she was First, and she's socially awkward, but that's not going to be the case with all Dalish. I definitely headcanon Mahariel x Tamlen having shaken the shrubbery.
Haha, I think Cammen and Gheyna are pretty obviously misfits in some sense, no matter what you think about the Dalish.
Also I'm replaying Origins right now and trying to talk myself out of embarking on some kind of epic "Bring Tamlen Back" mod project >_<
True. But if there were to have been anything like that between them, don't you think BW would have empathized it by given us a scen for it?
I think that the last *breakup* scen could have been it, but Solas realizes that if he does go through with it that would mean he needs to give up his own 'mission' and thereby lose himself, so he ends the romance before that happens.
Just my thought on the whole thing...
We already know that the decision whether or not there was anything physical between them was left up to the player to decide. There's hints that they had sex. It could also be explained away if the player thought they never did. Personally, as soon as the "side benefit" dialogue appeared, it was just a confirmation of suspicions I'd had since the balcony scene.
Hey Hun, welcome to the blanket fort, have some cookies and some wine and lots of hugs from all of us who are just as heartbroken (I was prepared for it as well and am a complete wreck over the whole thing). I think the whole situation is a surprisingly moving one for a lot of people. I for one have never been remotely tempted to write any of my own fan fiction, but this has left me with so many unresolved feelings that even I am making an attempt. Hang in there and hang out in the blanket fort anytime.
True. But if there were to have been anything like that between them, don't you think BW would have empathized it by given us a scen for it?
I think that the last *breakup* scen could have been it, but Solas realizes that if he does go through with it that would mean he needs to give up his own 'mission' and thereby lose himself, so he ends the romance before that happens.
Just my thought on the whole thing...
Honestly, there is no point in debating this. It's been confirmed by Weekes that whether they had sex is up to player interpretation.
There's no sex scene because it would immediately cast doubt on what Solas's intentions were. It would make some players feel incredibly uncomfortable to find out that they had been potentially seduced by an enemy of their people. That's the simple answer. By leaving sex out of the narrative, we know that it was not the focus of his character. That doesn't mean sex never happened. It means that motivations spurned by sex aren't valid. [IE; 'He was just using Lavellan as a distraction while he bided his time.']
There are plenty of lines you can take to assuming that they did have sex offscreen, and plenty of lines you can choose to say otherwise. It is completely your choice. There is no right or wrong answer.
The only correct answer is that Solas's attraction and love for Lavellan was not motivated solely by lust. He did legitimately love her.
I don't think Dalish are necessarily pure as a rule, it just makes more sense to wait for a potential mate than to than to do it like rabbits since clans are so small. I mean, unless you go looking for another clan, your dating pool is pretty small. Imagine the bad feelings of the broken hearts for the ones you slept with but didn't want to mate for life with.
Thank you. That's more what I was after. Using the word 'pure/purity' was wrong. The IQ is likely not that experinced and I don't see Solas as one that would push such a big decision on her. Especially not since he knows he shouldn't even be with her in the first place.
My IQ didn't even if she thought about it, Other's may have, but that's not for me to say. Now I'm dropping this subject so please stop crowding together on me. 
No, he isn't but the IQ is. He's likelly enough knowledge of their ways to know what that would mean.
Honestly, I don't really like the thought that the romance should be all about that. As I said, love is about so much more than just sex. That you desire someone doesn't necessarily mean you have to jump the sack at first opertunity.
I'd like to think that the love between the IQ and Solas are more than just physical attraction. But maybe that's just me...
Now I feel old
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