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You would think that smaller societies (especially the Dalish) Sex wouldnt be a taboo thing. It would be vital to survival, and with the clan being so small it would be impossible to keep children jaded on the subject. In my opinion the Dalish wouldnt necessarily be promiscuous but would be open to physical love but still hold firm (pardon the pun) the idea of an appropriate couple forming a lasting bond and starting a family. Considering the ancient romans ingenuity if you will (regarding activities at the brothels) i can imagine there being means not to have a child out of a Dalish union. Some clans did trade with one another.....and shems.

 

Well, if we're talking about the dalish from a cultural perspective. You want to control your population, particularly when we are talking a relatively small group of people. I doubt most dalish clans number more than a hundred. That means you don't want surplus children eating up resources during lean seasons. You need a constant flow of hunters, workers, and the occasional mage- but you can't have excess. Excess in any one thing leads to death. Either due to hunger, or humans starting to view you and your numbers as a threat. 

 

Another problem- you are a tribe with limited numbers. It is very likely that much of your clan is interrelated. Arranged matches ensures that you are keeping bloodlines at a healthy distance. If you left everything up to free love, you would run into problems further down the line. 


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I'm reading the patch notes and the only quests they fixed were sera's and dorian? Where are you finding the solas' quest notes?

 

'Fixed an issue with the demon that could spawn during Solas' personal quest.'



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@bunniebean

 

Yeah, but if the Dalish did have a way to prevent pregnancy, then wouldn't Fenarial's (can't remember the spelling) mother in 2 have used it when he was conceived? She was kicked out of her clan for having a human baby.

Things do break my dear lol



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 *blinks*

 

For a moment there, I imagined your Lavellan as being bright green.

 

loll, it's a common Chinese description. The jade is not jadeite. It refers to old Chinese nephrite jade which is white in color and a bit translucent in luster.

 

hetian-jade11.jpg

 

Pic taken from: http://www.jadefinej...etian-jade.html


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Personal headcanon is after a lot of fooling around in the Fade and little less so outside of it my Lavellan and Solas had sex after the Winter Palace ball. He had that dance in more ways than one ;)


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@bunniebean

 

Exactly, because nothing is fullproof.

 

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Did Solas have a physical relationship and/or get freaky in the Fade with Lavellan?

 

No idea?

 

Did Solas want to have a physical relationship and/or get freaky in the Fade with Lavellan?

 

Do the Dalish poop in the woods?

 

:whistle:


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You would think that smaller societies (especially the Dalish) Sex wouldnt be a taboo thing. It would be vital to survival, and with the clan being so small it would be impossible to keep children jaded on the subject. In my opinion the Dalish wouldnt necessarily be promiscuous but would be open to physical love but still hold firm (pardon the pun) the idea of an appropriate couple forming a lasting bond and starting a family. Considering the ancient romans ingenuity if you will (regarding activities at the brothels) i can imagine there being means not to have a child out of a Dalish union. Some clans did trade with one another.....and shems.

Agreed. In fact, according to the codex, Witherstalk is a safe, abundant, and reliable form of birth control. That's something that we didn't get until the 60s! If birth control is in fact available, then I can't see why the Dalish would be all that rigid about sex outside of marriage, and I suspect that it really isn't that big a deal.

 

Given that, I don't think it's implausible to think a Dalish Inquisitor wouldn't be too fussed about having sex with Solas. My Lavellan, for example, slept with him after Halamshiral. And I think there's ample room to imagine their relationship being sexual or not. Every single one of those kiss scenes is bursting with sexual tension. He certainly seems interested, both through body language and in his dialogue. But I can also imagine him respecting Lavellan's boundaries, if she's too hesitant to go all the way.



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loll, it's a common Chinese description. The jade is not jadeite. It refers to old Chinese nephrite jade which is white in color and a bit translucent in luster.

 

hetian-jade11.jpg

 

Pic taken from: http://www.jadefinej...etian-jade.html

 

I'm with you!  It just took my brain a second to catch up. The image of a blonde-haired, blue-eyed, gloriously green Lavellan was hard to shake.  


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My Lavellan and Solas definitely did the deed. It took them a while, and they don't do it often - it's a spontaneous thing - but they both see it as a nice side-benefit. XD Terrwyn sees Solas as a kindred spirit...being with him is on a whole different level than what she's used to. 


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As far as personal head canons go- I definitely assume my Lavellan and Solas were intimate. Probably a bit sooner than most, since by the time I got to Skyhold I had enough approval to chain up all the romance scenes at once. 

 

Taking the character aspect aside- I can’t promise there will be a happy ending for my Lavellan. Or Solas, for that matter. But I want to think that there was a short time that they were able to be happy together. Not that happiness needs to involve sex or anything- I just know that it would be important to my Lavellan to have had that.

 

Also I need my ‘break glass in case of emergency’ baby should they off Solas. 


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This rather unrelated to the current topic going on in the thread, but why the general consensus is that Fen'Harel appears an actual wolf in his true form? Am I the only who thinks he possibly looks like an elf-like figure with wolfish characteristics (tail and all)? 

 

Now if I could only get my digital pen to work...



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I imagine the Dalish would know about witherstalk.

 

http://dragonage.wik...ry:_Witherstalk

 

 

@bunniebean

 

Yeah, but if the Dalish did have a way to prevent pregnancy, then wouldn't Fenarial's (can't remember the spelling) mother in 2 have used it when he was conceived? She was kicked out of her clan for having a human baby.

 

If she conceived Feynriel in a moment of impulse, that would explain it.



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Well, if we're talking about the dalish from a cultural perspective. You want to control your population, particularly when we are talking a relatively small group of people. I doubt most dalish clans number more than a hundred. That means you don't want surplus children eating up resources during lean seasons. You need a constant flow of hunters, workers, and the occasional mage- but you can't have excess. Excess in any one thing leads to death. Either due to hunger, or humans starting to view you and your numbers as a threat. 

 

Another problem- you are a tribe with limited numbers. It is very likely that much of your clan is interrelated. Arranged matches ensures that you are keeping bloodlines at a healthy distance. If you left everything up to free love, you would run into problems further down the line

It has been said that the various clans can be very different. So i agree with everything youre saying but, for some clans, it could be the opposite because they interact with others. Therefore it is safe to say some aspects of their society would change.



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I imagine the Dalish would know about witherstalk.
 
http://dragonage.wik...ry:_Witherstalk
 
 
 
If she conceived Feynriel in a moment of impulse, that would explain it.


Well, even if my birth control argument is disproven (even though it wasn't part of my argument, just a character aside) I still maintain that its probably not common practice to go through several lovers in a clan. There has been a decent number of exclusive partners mentioned, so I'm assuming that's the norm.

Of course this is all just speculation on my part.

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This rather unrelated to the current topic going on in the thread, but why the general consensus is that Fen'Harel appears an actual wolf in his true form? Am I the only who thinks he possibly looks like an elf-like figure with wolfish characteristics (tail and all)? 

 

Now if I could only get my digital pen to work...

 

I don't think his true form is a wolf.  I think he looks the way he is, an elf.  The elven gods seem to have been shapeshifters though, so I imagine he can take wolf form.  And as that unfinished fresco may suggest, a wolfy dragon form, especially since dragon shapeshifting was apparently an elven god thing in particular.


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Guys, live and let live. No one here threatens anyone's headcanon. Peace.  ^_^

 

Remember the days when we were all hippies who wrote Disney song paraodies and handed out flower crowns?  Let's try and go back to those.


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I don't think his true form is a wolf.  I think he looks the way he is, an elf.  The elven gods seem to have been shapeshifters though, so I imagine he can take wolf form.  And as that unfinished fresco may suggest, a wolfy dragon form, especially since dragon shapeshifting was apparently an elven god thing in particular.

In DA:O Morrigan (who we can agree is very much like Solas) says how she would take the form of a wolf and wander the Arbor Wilds. I wonder if that meant anything? Even if its just a lil easter egg in the series.


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I imagine the Dalish would know about witherstalk.
 
http://dragonage.wik...ry:_Witherstalk


I just read this and laughed so hard at the "tired old dip and stir" ha! Wtf? *giggle*
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You would think that smaller societies (especially the Dalish) Sex wouldnt be a taboo thing. It would be vital to survival, and with the clan being so small it would be impossible to keep children jaded on the subject. In my opinion the Dalish wouldnt necessarily be promiscuous but would be open to physical love but still hold firm (pardon the pun) the idea of an appropriate couple forming a lasting bond and starting a family. Considering the ancient romans ingenuity if you will (regarding activities at the brothels) i can imagine there being means not to have a child out of a Dalish union. Some clans did trade with one another.....and shems.

Yup. If real life examples mean anything, tribal societies are often very open about sex to the point where it is unknown who fathered the children. In some tribes, refusal of sex is considered a great insult. Ideas about purity didn't really come about until the agricultural revolution. Agriculture brought about the ownership of land and inheritance issues; thus, paternity became important and women's sexuality began to be controlled.


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*randomly grabs out posts*

 

Aye,  Scotland here too... I didn't realise how much we drank until speaking with folks who moved here from other places (USA mainly) and finding out that this is not what happens everywhere.

 

In Hungary drinking for every reason imaginable is a national pastime. :D Thus coming back to the US as an adult was... interesting. I was beginning to think everyone was looking at me askance as an alcoholic when, by Hungarian standards, I was really very reserved. Ah, culture shock, you do so like to surprise me in my own home countries.

 

Worst fight I ever had was two days ago: 2 giants and six brontos. AT THE SAME TIME. Because Solas can't keep his AoE in his staff like a good mage and not aggro every passive Thedosian bovine in the vicinity. 

 

Hahahaha, I had EXACTLY this. I see I'm not the only one.

 

 *snip*

I would like to imagine something inspired by one of the earliest frescoes: A portrait of a girl from Pompeii. It's one of my favorites since I used it to shutup a history teacher I didn't like when he said there weren't any depictions of learned women in European art.
 *snip*

 

Oh, Pompeii fresco, Renaissance art --  :wub: *gush* I so love you guys.

 

I agree and I like Dorian personally, but not everything can just be smiled over. Solas has experienced a lot personally that our characters haven't, so it's kind of much to expect him to just wave all that away simply because Dorian is gregarious. Especially a naturally suspicious, introverted person like Solas.

Don't you as an artist or writer have to mostly do it for yourself anyway? I think his painting is a way of meditating on his situation. He's trying to find a sense of place in the mortal world and tie it to his past experience.

Of course, as we know with the Dark Ritual and the Aimo comic, the same event can happen in a game and yet the motives and emotions associated with it are very different depending on the relationships involved. I don't think anyone imagines Solas painting the deeds of his lover with the same mindset as he would impartially depict the deeds of someone he's cool towards.
 
I'm lackadaisically trying to get a human mage through a Cullen-romance game and it's kind of killing me. I think it's going to be a truncated version. Not recruiting the optional characters, speeding through the main events.

 

I really like that about Dorian that he's striving for friendship. I agree that it's simply not always feasible to actually make headway, as you say from Solas' standpoint it's understandable why it's not enough to gain his friendship personally - but the effort does count, and I like him for it a lot. (Besides, he reminds me of myself and that's always fun.  :P)

 

As to the question, I wanted to answer it, because I don't write for myself, not at all. Creating for yourself and for others are two very different things in the long run, the intent behind it does matter, it shows in your work. I cannot simply write for myself if I want to do it professionally, as few other people can fully appreciate a work of mine that is tailored to my personal fancies; it's a fine line, as I am putting myself into my work, but what I personally strive for is not to display my heart and soul as I play out what I wish to see and feel, but to explain what I experience in a way that can be understood by as many people as possible - I write for you. I write because I have something to say to other people, not because I wish to get even more lost in my head than I already am. I experience there, and I want to bring that to the rest of the world, not to bury myself in deeper without a care for what is significant to people and what I feel could benefit them. That is my purpose.

I agree, however, that Solas' painting can be looked upon as his way of "meditating on his situation" as you put it - in fact, I believe that this is the quintessential heart of creation. An artist might be a conduit for all manner of things, yet the act of creating something is beneficial in sorting through things as much to the artist as to those who admire his/her work.

 

Ok, I must away to work. Sorry for my random bursts, it must seem utterly out of context as these are quotes from yesterday.  :D I'll go back to lurking now.


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I don't think his true form is a wolf.  I think he looks the way he is, an elf.  The elven gods seem to have been shapeshifters though, so I imagine he can take wolf form.  And as that unfinished fresco may suggest, a wolfy dragon form, especially since dragon shapeshifting was apparently an elven god thing in particular.

 

Like Falkor?

 

 

I'M SORRY I CAN'T HELP IT! HE'S A FURRY DRAGON THING!


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Well, even if my birth control argument is disproven (even though it wasn't part of my argument, just a character aside) I still maintain that its probably not common practice to go through several lovers in a clan. There has been a decent number of exclusive partners mentioned, so I'm assuming that's the norm.

Of course this is all just speculation on my part.

 

Probably depends on the particular Dalish elf.  I doubt it's common either, but not necessarily unheard of.  On a side note, I bet the Arlathvhen gets interesting. :lol:


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Remember the days when we were all hippies who wrote Disney song paraodies and handed out flower crowns?  Let's try and go back to those.

Being an adult is just so much fun though! Unless you mean THAT kind of hippie lol  *adjusts flower crown*



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Remember the days when we were all hippies who wrote Disney song paraodies and handed out flower crowns?  Let's try and go back to those.

 

Those days were amazing, I get nostalgic quite often *sniff*