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[Caddius]

So going off the stuff that goes on in the Towers Age, it's a good thing Tevinter and Orlais are at odds most of the time.

When they've collaborated before...

Just casually throwing off the sieges of the Blight, and spend fifteen years or so kicking Toth's ass left and right, then in celebration, conquering the world together.

EDIT: What Giton said.

What's ironic is that Solas's tendency to generalize that is in sharp contrast to his defense of the importance of individuality when arguing about the Qun with Iron Bull. And his general beliefs that things are complicated.

[NightSymphony]

Someone make me a cupcake. I need one.

[Rabbitonfire]

Someone make me a cupcake. I need one.

Why have a cup of cake when you could have cake?

[BoscoBread]

I can still see him as prideful. I think one of the first "elf topic" conversations you have (the city elf one?), you can ask why he doesn't share his knowledge. He notes that it would be futile. You then reply that he has already decided the elves' reaction for them.

 

He has the weight of years on his side and can still be surprised, but I feel that he still has a tendency to "know better."

 

I am still bothered by his "The Dalish did one thing right" comment. That he views Lavellan as exceptional--as in the exception is problematic for me. He tends to look at the world macroscopically and generalize the collective. He pulls back and is surprised when individuals push against his pre-conceived notions about them. But I am not sure that is enough.

I liked it and am loving your post.  He views the whole Inquisition this way - especially his friendship with Cassandra and Varric.  He seems to be constantly surprised by their wisdom and insight but seems to chalk it up to them being exceptional.  The rest of humanity is brutish and awful. The Dwarves are narrow-minded, stubborn fools chained by their own tradition.   You just want to shake him and say "NO! YOU AREN'T RIGHT ALL THE TIME.  WE ARE WORTH SAVING."  I'm still amazed that I romanced this nerd.

[tsunamitigerdragon]

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[Avejajed]

Why have a cup of cake when you could have cake?

I don't need a whole cake....



Actually yeah a whole cake will do.

My aunt just Facebook messaged me asking if I'm pregnant, which i don't ..think..so, but now I want cake. Lol.

[AlleluiaElizabeth]

So, I'm running thru the game again on my Lavellan, prepping a let's play. And I was going thru the prologue, laughing as Solas makes educated "guesses" about, say, Cory's voice in the temple being the voice of the one who made the rift. Anyway, I had a thought while I was there regarding Justinia and her appearance in the Fade later.

 

Cole tells our inquisitor that he can't read their minds b/c they are "too bright". Logic says they are too bright b/c of the anchor. We know this anchor comes from Solas, ultimately. From his power in his orb. And we know she got this anchor from touching the orb at the right moment.

 

Now on to "Justinia". When we see her in the Fade, once she's shed the human appearance, her whole being is what I'd describe as "bright".  Human Justinia touched the orb too, just before the inquisitor did, when she smacked it away from Corypheus. Real!Justinia's final words to the Inquisitor were used to tell her to run and warn the others. Protecting this person who just walked in and, by extension, the other thousands (and ultimately millions in the spiritual sense) she was responsible for -- these were her final, strongest thoughts.

 

We're left with questions and theories about what the fade!Justinia is, but no answers. What if fade!Justinia is a manifestation of Solas' power, reacting to her desire to protect the inquisitor and the people of Thedas?

 

 

(Pardon me if this has been discussed before, but forum search isn't helping me here. lol)

[Rabbitonfire]

Yeah, how are brows done in this game? Could you mod those? My head sees them as a texture, which could definitely be altered. But If they have a mesh to them... I don't know. And are they melded onto the faces of your companions?

They're textures of their own but kind of like alpha channel textures with shaders to determine the color. Kind of like the tattoos. It's not like npcs like companions whose brows are ON the face texture. 

[Meer]

I imagine the three of them being close friends. They just seem so natural on Cole's quest, trying to solve the problem together. I guess my Lavellan had more of a sibling vibe with Cole rather than a motherly one, because I headcanon her as having a brother back with her clan....who is really just my male Lavellan who I made to romance Dorian (in an alternate reality where he went to the conclave instead of her, lol)

Mm, right! That quest really tipped the scales on the dynamic for me; it felt, as you mention, very natural. I think that's part of the reason I did not take Varric's suggestion,  aside from the fact that the spirits in this series fascinate me. It wasn't really so much a question of approval as how I kept envisioning my character, if that makes sense? For my Lavellan, it was almost like an intrusion into her inner circle and she strongly worried that pushing Cole might create a demon. Of course both decisions end up making perfect sense and have their merits, but she has no way of knowing, ne? But that's very cute! Your Lavellan took Cole in as something of a surrogate sibling then; it was more that way for my Trevelyan, for much the same reason. She has a Dorian-loving brother as well, haha.

I keep being fascinated by the way the Weekes characters seem to interact though. Solas x Cole is one of my favorite friendships in the game, and being able to be a part of that via my characters is a gift.

[Monica21]

Yeah, how are brows done in this game? Could you mod those? My head sees them as a texture, which could definitely be altered. But If they have a mesh to them... I don't know. And are they melded onto the faces of your companions?

 

There are a couple of people working on modding eyebrows. My Lavellan has some. They can be a replacer or part of the complexion itself. The only problem with it being a replacer is that you'll end up with some people in game who use the same texture and they have double brows.

[Elven_Glory]

So, I'm running thru the game again on my Lavellan, prepping a let's play. And I was going thru the prologue, laughing as Solas makes educated "guesses" about, say Cory's voice in the temple being the voice of the one who made the rift. Anyway, I had a thought while I was there regarding Justinia and her appearance in the Fade later.
 
Cole tells our inquisitor that he can't read their minds b/c they are "too bright". Logic says they are too bright b/c of the anchor. We know this anchor comes from Solas, ultimately. From his power in his orb. And we know she got this anchor from touching the orb at the right moment.
 
Now on to "Justinia". When we see her in the Fade, once she's shed the human appearance, her whole being is what I'd describe as "bright".  Human Justinia touched the orb too, just before the inquisitor did, when she smacked it away from Corypheus. 
 
We're left with questions and theories about what the fade!Justinia is, but no answers. Real!Justinia's final words to the Inquisitor were used to tell her to run and warn the others. Protecting this person who just walked in and, by extension, the other thousands (and ultimately millions in the spiritual sense) she was responsible for -- these were her final, strongest thoughts.
 
What if fade!Justinia is a manifestation of Solas' power, reacting to her desire to protect the inquisitor and the people of Thedas?
 
 
(Pardon me if this has been discussed before, but forum search isn't helping me here. lol)

That is a really interesting theory and I am out of likes, but I like it.

[Caddius]

So, I'm running thru the game again on my Lavellan, prepping a let's play. And I was going thru the prologue, laughing as Solas makes educated "guesses" about, say Cory's voice in the temple being the voice of the one who made the rift. Anyway, I had a thought while I was there regarding Justinia and her appearance in the Fade later.

 

Cole tells our inquisitor that he can't read their minds b/c they are "too bright". Logic says they are too bright b/c of the anchor. We know this anchor comes from Solas, ultimately. From his power in his orb. And we know she got this anchor from touching the orb at the right moment.

 

Now on to "Justinia". When we see her in the Fade, once she's shed the human appearance, her whole being is what I'd describe as "bright".  Human Justinia touched the orb too, just before the inquisitor did, when she smacked it away from Corypheus. 

 

We're left with questions and theories about what the fade!Justinia is, but no answers. Real!Justinia's final words to the Inquisitor were used to tell her to run and warn the others. Protecting this person who just walked in and, by extension, the other thousands (and ultimately millions in the spiritual sense) she was responsible for -- these were her final, strongest thoughts.

 

What if fade!Justinia is a manifestation of Solas' power, reacting to her desire to protect the inquisitor and the people of Thedas?

 

 

(Pardon me if this has been discussed before, but forum search isn't helping me here. lol)

Hello there, new headcanon. 

[Rabbitonfire]

I don't need a whole cake....

Actually yeah a whole cake will do.

My aunt just Facebook messaged me asking if I'm pregnant, which i don't ..think..so, but now I want cake. Lol.

Is your aunt subtly telling you that you are fat? You know, "Sweetheart, you're getting a little chubby around gut" vs. "My, you've grown. Are you pregnant?" 

 

It's a motherly thing to do. At least my mom. Stop feeding me.

[Giton]

I liked it and am loving your post.  He views the whole Inquisition this way - especially his friendship with Cassandra and Varric.  He seems to be constantly surprised by their wisdom and insight but seems to chalk it up to them being exceptional.  The rest of humanity is brutish and awful. The Dwarves are narrow-minded, stubborn fools chained by their own tradition.   You just want to shake him and say "NO! YOU AREN'T RIGHT ALL THE TIME.  WE ARE WORTH SAVING."  I'm still amazed that I romanced this nerd.

That's a good point and really makes his conversation with Cassandra more poignant when she asks him why he never calls her by name. Cassandra surprises him with her moral integrity, but he also sees that integrity as aligning with her role as a Seeker. As in, she is one of the few who actually fulfills her institutional role with honor. She is an exception(al) Seeker. An ideal.

 

What I really love about this game is the exploration of the roles of individuals up against institutional power, whether it be figureheads (Inquisitor), agents (Cassandra), rebels (Sera), apologists (Iron Bull), etc. How are institutions built and what does that mean of the individual? 

[tsunamitigerdragon]

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[Patchwork]

I went ambitious with Lavellan's backstory and by Lavellan I mean the whole clan. Originally they're from Antiva, savage bandits that helped shape the legend, they attracted many like minded City Elves to their ranks. The clan grew large until a group of merchants pooled their money and hired a respected mercenary gang to kill the thieving knife-ears. For months the mercenaries tracked and killed members of the clan until finally they found the main camp. The Keeper gave the sacred relics of the clan and a large coin purse to his First and ordered her to lead half the clan away.

And Deshanna did, all the way from Antiva to the Free Marches. Deep in the forest they re-built the aravels, be-friended a herd of halla and using the old tradition of the new Keeper being allowed one request that must be followed she made the clan promise that they would never resort to banditry again, that they would help where they could regardless of race, be elvhen to be proud of.

 

At the next clan gathering she hoped and dreaded to see survivors but there were none.  

 

I have more but I'll stop there lol. 

[DragonRacer]

That's a good point and really makes his conversation with Cassandra more poignant when she asks him why he never calls her by name. Cassandra surprises him with her moral integrity, but he also sees that integrity as aligning with her role as a Seeker. As in, she is one of the few who actually fulfills her institutional role with honor. She is an exception(al) Seeker. An ideal.

 

What I really love about this game is the exploration of the roles of individuals up against institutional power, whether it be figureheads (Inquisitor), agents (Cassandra), rebels (Sera), apologists (Iron Bull), etc. How are institutions built and what does that mean of the individual? 

 

On that note, does he tend to refer to anyone by their name? I ask because I honestly can't remember. Seems like it's always "Seeker" or "Child of the Stone", etc.

 

As if he were on the outside looking in, a scientist observing the subjects under his microscope. A god looking down upon the mortal world.

 

And then Lavellan sort of pulls him in, makes him actually interact with the test subjects rather than simply studying them.

[Rabbitonfire]

There are a couple of people working on modding eyebrows. My Lavellan has some. They can be a replacer or part of the complexion itself. The only problem with it being a replacer is that you'll end up with some people in game who use the same texture and they have double brows.

Any notable npcs that have double eyebrows? If there are enough, I want to try this brow replacement mod. 

[Catriana]

I liked it and am loving your post.  He views the whole Inquisition this way - especially his friendship with Cassandra and Varric.  He seems to be constantly surprised by their wisdom and insight but seems to chalk it up to them being exceptional.  The rest of humanity is brutish and awful. The Dwarves are narrow-minded, stubborn fools chained by their own tradition.   You just want to shake him and say "NO! YOU AREN'T RIGHT ALL THE TIME.  WE ARE WORTH SAVING."  I'm still amazed that I romanced this nerd.

He's especially bad about the Qunari, and from what I hear he knows the difference between a Vashoth and a Qunari but still calls your Inquisitor a Qunari, as if it's a blanket term for a race instead of the religion/lifestyle. He tends to be insulting while at the same time going "But you're the exception!" it doesn't really make a person feel good to be told that (speaking from personal experience).

 

I love Solas, he's intelligent and thoughtful, but I feel like he either forces himself or genuinely has these racial biases (prejudices?) and that, I think, is sort of his big flaw. And I say that in the sense that he possibly does this because he has a strong need to reject 'this age' as it stands. Everything that has evolved, everything that is now is twisted and wrong and he cannot accept it. Anything that contradicts this opinion is an exception, because to believe otherwise would mean that the world isn't as bad as he's judged it to be.

 

It's not the same sort of internalized prejudice that Sera has, it's like he just...refuses to believe there's anything solidly good about this age. He can't, and that's why he says a lot of the insensitive things he does. I find that aspect of him fascinating, and it makes me wonder if, given enough time, would Lavellan (or any other friendly inquisitor) have been able to change his worldviews just enough.

 

On a side note, he does question whether or not he was wrong about the Dalish as a whole during the romance so...*shrug*

 

/rambling

[Meer]

On that note, does he tend to refer to anyone by their name? I ask because I honestly can't remember. Seems like it's always "Seeker" or "Child of the Stone", etc.

 

As if he were on the outside looking in, a scientist observing the subjects under his microscope. A god looking down upon the mortal world.

 

And then Lavellan sort of pulls him in, makes him actually interact with the test subjects rather than simply studying them.

From what I can remember, Solas always refers to Sera, Dorian, and Cole by name. He uses them with Iron Bull, but also refers to him as -The- Iron Bull. Varric gets "Child of the Stone," and Master Tethras, while Vivienne is almost always Enchanter. I would say he tries to put distance between himself and others with such titles (particularly in Vivienne's case) but it may just be a quirk of manners or habit than anything else.

[RedMagister]

 

 

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I understand the limitations of game design and voice-acting and everything, but it really bothers me that we keep calling him Blackwall. Have that man as your standard to reach for if you wish, Rainier, but you haven't reached it yet. *shrug*

 

If you go the redeem route it's explained why the inq calls him Blackwall.

people choose to live by values they define and he wanted a reminder to not forget what he lived by. in this way it is fitting for him to use the name, the same way Solas uses the word solas.

 

i was personally disappointed in Blackwall as a character until he decided to admit who he was, which finally earned some of my approval, like Vivi. In convo he idealized too much and wanted a pure hero. Still don't understand why he comes off so bland. I just chalked it up to bad writing and voice acting, lol. or maybe it's me? :x

 

I should use him more in parties with Solas. i like their old people banter. Plus cole. 

[jellobell]

On that note, does he tend to refer to anyone by their name? I ask because I honestly can't remember. Seems like it's always "Seeker" or "Child of the Stone", etc.

No, he refers to people by name. Quite often, in fact. He uses Sera's name a lot. And Cole's. And Blackwall's. He even uses Cass's name a couple times, even though he does call her "seeker" a lot.

[vierrae]

There are times where Solas borders on being a significantly more palatable version of Javik. And I HATED Javik.  I appreciate the view point and history that he revealed to the player, that the Protheans were total *****, and ruthless conquerors. But oh god, whenever Liara ventured to his side of the ship I felt a palatable sense of dread. 

I think the difference is that Solas' curiosity and wisdom repeatedly rips holes in his carefully constructed pre-conceptions of the current Thedas he finds himself in  and the races living within it. The other aspects of his nature prevent him from blindly accepting a one-dimensional read of his surroundings. He's always looking for, seeking, and finding duality. He trends towards being upset at you WHEN you fit his preconceptions. He wants you to surprise him.

Unlike Javik who'd be happy to throw you back in the primordial soup you came from but... Reapers. Priorities.

(I know that's unfair to Javik, but man did he consistently brush me the WRONG way. All the time. Every time.)

[Elven_Glory]

If you go the redeem route it's explained why the inq calls him Blackwall.
people choose to live by values they define and he wanted a reminder to not forget what he lived by. in this way it is fitting for him to use the name, the same way Solas uses the word solas.
 
i was personally disappointed in Blackwall as a character until he decided to admit who he was, which finally earned some of my approval, like Vivi. In convo he idealized too much and wanted a pure hero. Still don't understand why he comes off so bland. I just chalked it up to bad writing and voice acting, lol. or maybe it's me? :x
 
I should use him more in parties with Solas. i like their old people banter. Plus cole. 

It is not just you. I feel the same way about Blackwall. I felt there was much to be desired and he didnt stand out among the rest of the characters.

[jellobell]

From what I can remember, Solas always refers to Sera, Dorian, and Cole by name. He uses them with Iron Bull, but also refers to him as -The- Iron Bull. Varric gets "Child of the Stone," and Master Tethras, while Vivienne is almost always Enchanter. I would say he tries to put distance between himself and others with such titles (particularly in Vivienne's case) but it may just be a quirk of manners or habit than anything else.

I thought Cole was the one who called Bull "The" Iron Bull? Which is adorable.   I think Solas just calls him Iron Bull. Especially after they become friends. And yeah, Viv is always "Enchanter", and her version for Solas is "Apostate". Their banter is hilarious. They're trying to out-polite each other while being as snarky as possible. It's amazing.