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Not sure if it's been posted yet or not... but my Origin just started running a new update on my game. So I think Patch 3 just launched?

Yeah it's live. No more dupe exploit anymore, ughh. @_@ I didn't see it in the patch notes.. but hitting Sell All doesn't get rid of your creature items in your valuables anymore. Edit: All New Faded for Her still doesn't show up in the completed quest log of any of my play throughs.. I was sort of hopeful them fixing the demon would fix that issue as well.


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I have to admit, the idea of Andruil going full golem is based on the faintest scraps of lore: just the Dalish description of "all forgetting her face" once she'd been to the Void a few too many times, in combination with the necessary lyrium armor / weapons crafting link to June, the Anvil of the Void, and the overall golem concept.

 

I could definitely be reading too much into it.  owo

 

You could argue there's potential counter-evidence in the ToM mosaics (depending on your interpretation of the timeline) given that she seems only partially lyrium armored in her depiction.  Personally though, I think there's plenty of room for Andruil's "initial stages" to be captured in mosaic on her way to becoming what she was during her eventual tangle with Mythal- it just shifts the mosaics' theoretical age back a bit.  

 

I like this version of Andruil "forgetting her face". For some time I was playing with her being referred to as "sister to the moon" - the moon a symbol of the veil. It could allude to how familiar with it she became, using the void as a hunting ground. Or, more worryingly, it could suggest Andruil originating of the realms beyond the veil, aka spirit. "Forgetting her face" would then follow as a good-natured spirit flipping over to it's darkside counter-state, or, if more humanised, going abomination. Sadface.

 

The red-lyrium-golem-pox is better. A chance to be cured.

 

Unless... is there evidence for her ever having been cured? Dun dun duuuuuun! 


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The way the red lyrium is growing everywhere (Emprise du Lion especially!) makes me feel like a catastrophy about to happen. What's the link between it and Corypheus anyway? We know he's cultivating it through people in the future we can be sent to, but to what end? Is he using the lyrium... or is the lyrium somehow using him? It all comes back to the Blight and its origin I think. In any case, I'm more afraid of the Red Lyrium than I ever was of Corypheus. It seems to be growing exponentially, and nowhere in DA:I do we come across any way of stopping it.

That conversation will take us sooo far into speculation and conjecture that I'm afraid to comment fully on what I think, lol. It would probably be easier to give a link to other discussions, but long story short, I do think that the red lyrium, the taint, all of it is connected to a god or gods, and is a physical manifestation of their will, whoever it or they are.

 

The taint is something alive, as is lyrium. Lyrium is basically magic in a physical sense, and we see it exists in the fade as well. It may be something left over from the separation of the fade and mortal world. Who knows, maybe that separation is what first created this blight, and the blight, the red lyrium, it's all a natural occurrence of the world trying to become what it once was. Since red lyrium is blighted and may even be the source of the taint.

 

Would especially make sense if the old gods are the anchors, since they seem to control the taint. They certainly seem to want to reclaim the heavens, and I doubt remaining as "anchors" for the world they're prison to helps with that goal.


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Edit: Wait, Zathrian was immortal, wasn't he? But that was a curse? It's so hard to keep track of all of this.

 

Didn't Zathrian kind of do the same thing with Witherfang as Corry did with the dragon. Not completely though since he could be killed, but the curse/ his essense in witherfang was what keept him linving for so long past his lifespan.  (?)

 

 

Solas just doesn't seen the kind of crazy/odd that Flemeth/Mythal is.  However, that could also be a result of being murdered or being forced to inhabit a human body. 

 

  Actually, I think that's just Flemeth how's crazy (funny) not Mythal. 

 

 

... THIS WEEK ON LIFETIME - "THE SLOW ARROW"

 

Mythal, hiding her slowly growing infection, continues her love affair but the other party remains a mystery. Are they a man or are they a woman? Or NEITHER?

June is busy crafting a red crystalline blade on his anvil. Could it be.. THE MURDER KNIFE? Will he be the one to pull the dagger or will he pass off the dirty work to another, more emotionally compromised "family" member?
Elgar'nan drowns his suspicions in elven gladiator fights and wine. But how long will this peace before the storm last?
Sylaise builds a pyre of wooden carvings depicting the accomplishments of the rest of the pantheon and watches it BURN TO THE GROUND. How much longer will she tolerate being second best?
Ghilal'nain visits Andruil in Elven God hospital and weeps over her twisted form, her tears spilling onto Andruil's hand.. which twitches at the contact. Will she reawaken!?

Meanwhile, in the same hospital several floors above, obtaining access under a false identity, Dirthamen visits the bloodied remains of his barely breathing twin soul brother Falon'Din. But what is the purpose of this visit? Are there other allegiances at work? Has he decided that death would be a kinder fate for his infected brother?
Fen'Harel visits the slaves quarters of Arlathan and their plight brings him to tears. But these tears are HOT. HOT WITH FURY at what the other Gods believe it is their right to inflict on those they consider beneath them.

WHO WILL WIELD THE MURDER KNIFE? WHAT TRAGEDY WILL BEFALL THEM NEXT? ONE THING IS FOR CERTAIN.. IT'LL ALL BEGINS IN.. "THE FAMILY."
REMEMBER - THIS TUESDAY at 9PM. THE SLOW ARROW. You'll never see the tears coming before they hit you.

 

 

This made me laught out load, almost falling of my chair.  :lol:

 

 

The way the red lyrium is growing everywhere (Emprise du Lion especially!) makes me feel like a catastrophy about to happen. What's the link between it and Corypheus anyway? We know he's cultivating it through people in the future we can be sent to, but to what end? Is he using the lyrium... or is the lyrium somehow using him? It all comes back to the Blight and its origin I think. In any case, I'm more afraid of the Red Lyrium than I ever was of Corypheus. It seems to be growing exponentially, and nowhere in DA:I do we come across any way of stopping it.

 

 

During Varric's quest we get to know that Lyrium actually is alive, since it can become blighted. And in earlier games its referred to as waters of the fade, and tears of the maker but the codex says its a metal. 

The way Solas talked about it seems to be somethinghe'd well familiar with, however. So maybe its more connected to the old Gods. 

 

A question just beacuse it popped into my head; Does Solas voice his opinion on the Maker? If so I can't remember it. I know however that he dennounces the old elven Gods. He belives that they excisted but not that they were Gods. Maybe there's something to that? Maybe they just were really inflencal people during the old times. Take for instance ME3, you find out that the asari godess was nothing but a protheon (don't remember the correct spelling), helping the people to evolve faster... Just a thought.  



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Hi all, I have a question to all theory lovers. At the endgame, when Solas

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he says to Inquisitor: "it was not supposed to end this way". During the 2nd-3rd playthrough, I started to wonder:
 
1) How do you think the fight with Cory was supposed to end from Solas' perspective (besides getting the Orb back, ofc)?
 
2) Why does he break up with Lavellan straight after the
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mission and not just before the final confrontation with Cory?
 
3) What could he be expecting to happen after the final battle with Corypheus, that it was so important for him to leave Lavellan before?
 
Any thoughts, ideas...?
 
Sorry if this was discussed already, though I didn't saw posts on this before.


Don't have any ideas regarding the latter questions, but I have a theory about the first one in that Solas expected that Cory would die in the explosion, and thus the orb would be activated and Solas wouldn't have to go through the effort of getti g it back. This isn't the first time we've seen Fen'Harel take the longer path in order to avoid full force confrontation. The story about thr slow arrow is a similar example.

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Right... though be careful about connecting her difficulty to the Pantheon at large.  If you subscribe to Dalish Earth/Sun creation theory, "Mythal" is a fundamentally different entity from the others- her original physical form long dead and outside the realm of Thedas as we know it.  What remains in our universe is the now tattered remnants of her spirit / soul, which is unable to pass through the veil as lesser spirits can.  Since she can't pass into the Fade "crossroads", she can't be directed to other physical body on death, and thus has no choice other than to haunt the physical world waiting for a sentient being with an open conduit willing to grant her access. 

 

Right now, I think Mythal is the same sort of being as whatever the rest of the pantheon are.  But I'm keeping my opinion open on whatever that is.



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What's important to keep in mind here is that it's made undeniably clear that Solas does love Lavellan, and that he was this close to dropping all of his plans to be with her. That, to me, says that he isn't beyond saving, and it makes me hopeful.

I honestly think that Weekes was trying to comfort us with that little bit of information. He must have known how devastating it would be for people who chose to romance Solas.


I'm out of likes!! :(

But I agree 100% with this. My fangirl heart still holds onto hope.
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Got a screenshot of that. It's rather sweet. <3

 

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Do the other LIs do a similar gesture? I know they all do the raised eyebrow thing going out into the balcony. The hand on back, not so sure.

Yeah, they do. At least I know Cullen does. I think Cassandra too? Not sure about the others.

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OT incoming!

(Disgusted noises)

Those awful uniforms. I'm at an Orlesian masquerade...for the QUEEN.

Where is my pretty dress!

/end rant
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OT incoming!

(Disgusted noises)

Those awful uniforms. I'm at an Orlesian masquerade...for the QUEEN.

Where is my pretty dress!

/end rant

Speaking of disgusted noises, Cassandra makes that outfit look lovely :P :wub:



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Speaking of disgusted noises, Cassandra makes that outfit look lovely :P :wub:

 

As does Jossie. but I'd still rather have seened them both in a fancy dress.  



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OT incoming!

(Disgusted noises)

Those awful uniforms. I'm at an Orlesian masquerade...for the QUEEN.

Where is my pretty dress!

/end rant

All of this. I wanted to be able to wear a pretty dress or some fancy elfy robes, or something besides that bulky uniform. I mean, as uniforms go, they're fine, but I would've liked the option to pick something else. They could've made a quest out of it. Shopping in Val Royeaux: picking out fabric, going to the tailor, gathering coin to pay for fancy, frilly dress. LOL. I've thought about this too much....


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This is without a doubt the most horrendous thing I've ever heard.    I don't know why it horrifies me more than any other type of murder.  Maybe because they are sleeping.  Maybe because the whole practice is somewhat holy/spiritual.

It would have been good incentive to treat your servants well.
 

And then my mind went here

"starve themselves for a decade, bury themselves alive with only a small breathing tube, and meditate until death"

Mmmkay! Not exactly my Lavellan long-term plan.
 

I am curious - not just a question to you as you probably don't know, but maybe somebody knows - what does Morrigan say about Kieran and the HoF if the hero romanced her and followed her in that DLC (which I did not play)?
If you did not follow her, I assume you get the same statements ("Without the hero, Kieran would not be" / "We parted on bad terms, which I regret") that you get if your hero did not romance her.

I've seen the video on YouTube. She says that he raised Kieran for a time but is off on a quest, that Kieran misses him, that he's a good father and good partner and that she never thought she'd find someone she could trust. Very sappy and sweet. She agrees to send him a letter and says "he'll think I miss him, and be insufferably pleased at that fact." It's quite cute. Gaider went full softie on the Morrigan and Alistair stuff.
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As does Jossie. but I'd still rather have seened them both in a fancy dress.  

Cass in a dress??

 

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1fzWiychUlh

 

:P That's like Solas with hair. Not their style.


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#59565
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All of this. I wanted to be able to wear a pretty dress or some fancy elfy robes, or something besides that bulky uniform. I mean, as uniforms go, they're fine, but I would've liked the option to pick something else. They could've made a quest out of it. Shopping in Val Royeaux: picking out fabric, going to the tailor, gathering coin to pay for fancy, frilly dress. LOL. I've thought about this too much....

Vivienne made me think that would happen but eh, you're military, there on a job. It makes sense, whether you're male or female, to show up at parties with formal attire. My only real complain besides them looking meh is that they look out of place for the setting.


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OT incoming!

(Disgusted noises)

Those awful uniforms. I'm at an Orlesian masquerade...for the QUEEN.

Where is my pretty dress!

/end rant

 

BioWare proclaims, "YOU MUST BE THE NUTCRACKER.  But on the bright side, look!  You have 13 styles of shaved/cropped hairstyles to choose from!"


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OT incoming!

(Disgusted noises)

Those awful uniforms. I'm at an Orlesian masquerade...for the QUEEN.

Where is my pretty dress!

/end rant

 

The uniform has grown on me, I see it as the Inquisition presenting a united front to the Olasian court and it's a bit practical because assassins.

 

But the next ball, the one Josie plans to throw at Skyhold everyone will be wearing the fanciest of fancy and they're not going to copy fashion they're going to set it. 


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Think of the uniforms as a nice big middle finger to Orlesian sensibilities.

 


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All of this. I wanted to be able to wear a pretty dress or some fancy elfy robes, or something besides that bulky uniform. I mean, as uniforms go, they're fine, but I would've liked the option to pick something else. They could've made a quest out of it. Shopping in Val Royeaux: picking out fabric, going to the tailor, gathering coin to pay for fancy, frilly dress. LOL. I've thought about this too much....

O_O Thank the maker they did not. :D

At least not a mandatory one. I dislike shopping and house & garden stuff already in real life, I surely don't want my DA make me do it.

 

And no. Nononononono to anyone who wanted Cass of all people in a dress.

 

@ Addai

Thank you! Doesn't sound like Morigan, but it satisfied my curiosity.


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Vivienne made me think that would happen but eh, you're military, there on a job. It makes sense, whether you're male or female, to show up at parties with formal attire. My only real complain besides them looking meh is that they look out of place for the setting.

I'm with Cullen on that one: I want to wear real armor, as it's supposed to be. I'm there to make a stand and to impress.


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There are so many mesh artists who are incredibly good at hair that I wonder why Bioware consistently skimps on it in every game they make.

I thought the female options in DA2 were not so bad.


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DAI hair options makes me remember DAO/2's fondly. 

 

13 versions of shaved head? Only 4 for qunari? I get that hair rates only slightly higher than female rigs and animations but it was poorly done even by BW standards. 



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Yesterday or so some people were discussing how the symbol under the divine during her sacrifice is identical to the one on the floor during Solas' first quest. I thought it was an interesting coincidence so I went back to check it out and take some screenshots of both the symbol and the statues around the room since I'm bored. Maybe they'll be useful to you theorycrafters in this thread. http://imgur.com/a/0KcS9#0

 

Can we talk about these creepy statues?

 

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WHY TAKE THE CREEPY RAMS HEAD OFF AND POINT TO IT?


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I don't know how many of you hang out on twitter, but DA's latest tweet included this and it's so good everyone should hear it.

 


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