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you shouldn't be surprised by now that some people are sensitive. Things used to be more relaxed about smut until the sex doll argument. Then everyone went nuts.

 

Edit: Now we have a solas thread chart to reference the cycles.

You're right, I shouldn't, lol. This side of BSN is much different than everywhere else. Not necessarily a bad thing, mind you.

 

Obviously, as I'm posting here for a character I'm not shagging.


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I think we find this thread works best when we all try to get along and not push anyones buttons on purpose anyway.

Maybe it might be overkill to some, and infact I sort of miss it getting real wild in here but it seems to work for the general population of the thread.

We like how it is in this thread, as it is usually without the excessive drama of the other threads.
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#59729
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Hey madrar, I've been rereading your "Triad" theory. It is so well crafted, good job! I was preoccupied with trying to pin down the characters of the Elvhen Pantheon for such a long time, I wasn't interested in moving on to whatever existed before. But I realise now that your triad fits neatly with everything we've discovered/tin-foil hatted so far. The Songs and the nature of magic in particular. I AM ON BOARD! <3 until DLC evidences otherwise 

 

So I can answer my own questions in my last post with the triad! Wham, bam, thank you ma'am. 

 

 

WELCOME TO NUTJOBVILLE!   @w@   Pay no attention to the unnecessarily complicated version, though.  I wrote all that up before realizing the writers had been hitting us over the head with the key the whole time.  The "fade" of the game world and our reality share basic laws that are bent, but never broken.  Realizing that would have made explaining the rest so much simpler.

 

Triad Magic is Nuclear Fission.  

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Ta da!  The Wife and Husband are the bonded nucleus.  The Lover is the free neutron.  Like all fission, the split releases a truly absurd amount of power, which produces drastic change.  Potentially catastrophic results and toxic aftermath are the obvious thematic bonus.

 

Creation Magic is Biological Fusion.

 

All life on Thedas, and even the planet itself, comes from Fusion.  The merging of Sun and Earth.  Physical and Fade.  And if you want to get disturbingly literal with the imagery of the Sun "dragon" and the Earth....

 

 

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...there you go.  @w@

 

Generic Magic is Combustion.

 

The most obvious in-game demonstration of this theory in practice is Mythal, but there's reason to believe it might be the underlying nature of all "everyday" magic with respect to the Stone (Thedas).  Like Creation magic, it's the intersection of Physical and Fade- but like Triad magic, the fade component is consumed by its use.  It is Earth and Sun as Coal and Fire.

 

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The combination burns, producing power at a cost: a measure of Earth is irrecoverably lost.  Again, I'm still uncertain whether this holds true with generic magic's Fade component, which from a certain perspective would be the Stone's literal "soul".  Need more data.  The inferred environmental / conservationist subtext wouldn't be too out of place- this is Bioware, not Rockstar North.  Also the steady leeching of a finite magic reserve leading toward conditions of modern Earth supports the "worthy struggle" theme.  Mage-style magic is still too easy as a means of Change, just as Eden was too easy. Difficulty is what makes change meaningful, worthwhile, lasting, etc, etc.    

 

This, though, is why Mythal's orb looks like it was crafted from Anthracite Coal, as does the shell of her physical body after transferring the last of her power to Solas.  (The bright blue flame graphic is a telling hint.)  Her immortal OGS remains to be transferred to Morrigan, but the reserve of ancient Fade she carried into this world (the remains of her soul, her power) is completely spent. Once Solas uses that flame, there is no more.

 

Choice Magic is Sustainable Energy.

 

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Like the others, the intersection of Earth and Sun (Option and Will) grants the wielder a degree of power over the world around her.  It might not be as easy or flashy as "combustion" magic above, but (critically) it's universal and infinite, granting every sentient being the ability to change the world... both in game and out.  (Assuming a critical degree of social balance is maintained to make Choice both possible and meaningful.  Cue Solas.)

 

And of course, all of this ties into the Song at every level.  @w@  Quantum harmonic oscillators at the atomic, DNA at the biological, player Choices as individual notes in the Song of Creation that defines their Thedas in the grand overview...

 

...now if I could just figure out how elvhen inheritance makes sense.  (ᕤ≧w≦)ᕤ


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I think we find this thread works best when we all try to get along and not push anyones buttons on purpose anyway.

Maybe it might be overkill to some, and infact I sort of miss it getting real wild in here but it seems to work for the general population of the thread.

We like how it is in this thread, as it is usually without the excessive drama of the other threads.

 

Lol that's a lot of tip toeing if nsfw'ing the words gay porn smut is necessary. But more power to you lot.



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Omg finally! I knew I had to wait to finish my last playthrough! ><

Do it! :D

I can't remember the last time I drew something before today, it was ages ago, and I didn't use to do it very often even then. It's true that now it's not a great time for me and I have to keep my mind busy all the time, but this thread and solas played their part in getting me back into drawing. :)

Started my cannon and all I can say is....when will the XBOX get the patches.  It hasn't patched for us yet. :/  Now I'm wondering if I shouldn't continue on this playthrough until that patch goes through so I don't miss this quest!



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You're right, I shouldn't, lol. This side of BSN is much different than everywhere else. Not necessarily a bad thing, mind you.

 

Obviously, as I'm posting here for a character I'm not shagging.

Honestly, The character discussion is one of the more tamed BSN forums. I do the same for Dorian. Never shagged him, but acknowledge his selectively bred perfection. Then got called a geneticist. Those plebeians. Anyway, too bad that thread is slow. Considered visiting Varric thread but they just seem so hung up about not having a dwarven romance. 



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Honestly, The character discussion is one of the more tamed BSN forums. I do the same for Dorian. Never shagged him, but acknowledge his selectively bred perfection. Then got called a geneticist. Those plebeians. Anyway, too bad that thread is slow. Considered visiting Varric thread but they just seem so hung up about not having a dwarven romance. 

LOL it doesn't surprise me. Fun fanbase though in general. Gotta take the good with the bad.

 

And I can't blame them, Varric's chesthair is godlike. And he deserves someone better than that bore bianca. Stick with the crossbow, dude.


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Started my cannon and all I can say is....when will the XBOX get the patches.  It hasn't patched for us yet. :/  Now I'm wondering if I shouldn't continue on this playthrough until that patch goes through so I don't miss this quest!

There's no cut scenes or anything like that so I wouldn't put off a play through to wait for it.  It really is a war table mission and closing a rift.  There's no dialogue for it.  No don't finish the game before doing it.  But you're fine to start your PT anyways.

 

It's an approval quest like getting the Grey Warden stuff for Blackwall, and books for Viv, etc.  I am glad it is working though for completionist sake.  



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Lol that's a lot of tip toeing if nsfw'ing the words gay porn smut is necessary. But more power to you lot.

I blame the Solas romance being ambiguous so you gain a wide range of people from asexual to horny as f*ck people. Because of that, you run into problems so it's a courtesy. 

 

On the bright side, I enjoy joking about using the thread cycle chart to argue that you aren't allowed to complain until someone talks about smut. THEN you are free to complain.


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I have come to the conclusion that I don't fit in with you guys on this Solas Obssession. Yeah, he is one of my favorite characters in the game especially after the ending. Though I don't see myself ever being interested in.....

 

- Weird Solas Porn

- ****** Erotic Solas Porn

- Signatures with him walking away focused on his butt

- etc... etc...

 

I've stepped into a pool of water that surprisingly went way over my head.


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NEW VIDEO! You guys must see this! I had fun making it!! 

DREAD WOLF/ FEN'HAREL SMALL TRIBUTE/FAN TRAILER:


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#59738
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hmm...

 

nsfw

Spoiler

 

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#59739
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Oh my. Any chance that this will also trigger when you just collect one more in case you already have, say, a LOT more than 10 activated? :/


I will have to test this.

On Tiger's Endgame save and pre temple of mythal save, every single artifact in existence has been activated. I was trying to get it to trigger before so I ended up following Dragon's guide. I loaded up my pre-What Pride has wrought save (all artifacts activated) just now. No war table mission. Tried going out and returning to skyhold. Still didn't activate. So either you need a save before 10 have been touched, or where you at least have one you can activate.

If I have to go back to before 10, I'm not even sure where that would be. As it is, just finding a save where not every single one has been grabbed is losing 30 hours of gameplay. I sure hope that works. Going back much further than that, I dunno if its worth it.

Eh. What am I saying? Of course it's worth it. Anything for more Solas. Silly me.

Sure wish we could name save games. Having a pile of double time stamped saves is going to drive me nuts. And the only alternative is to find the magic save where I can get this to trigger, and then delete all the rest. So much lost!

My kingdom for SetStage console command. :/ That'd fix everything right up.

Edit: Then again, if there really is not even so much as a short rotunda dialogue about it, I may just experience it on Serenity's PT and let Tiger live vicariously through her. The idea of going through everything as my Lavellan again makes me inexplicably sad. Weird, no?

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I have come to the conclusion that I don't fit in with you guys on this Solas Obssession. Yeah, he is one of my favorite characters in the game especially after the ending. Though I don't see myself ever being interested in.....

 

- Weird Solas Porn

- ****** Erotic Solas Porn

- Signatures with him walking away focused on his butt

- etc... etc...

 

I've stepped into a pool of water that surprisingly went way over my head.

 

That's fine. You don't have to be all sexual about him. Half the time it's only jokes anyways. 

 

And we don't usually get mad about that stuff, unless it gets into sex-doll creepy territory. 

 

Heck, you don't even have to romance him to love him and talk about him in this thread. He's a great character, and he as a character is far more interesting than just his (kind of lacking, even though I love it) romance!


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Does anyone have the answer to this question....

 

How old is Solas?



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Does anyone have the answer to this question....

 

How old is Solas?

 

Somewhere in the thousands.  :lol:

 

Physical age is early 40s, according to Patrick Weekes!



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I have come to the conclusion that I don't fit in with you guys on this Solas Obssession. Yeah, he is one of my favorite characters in the game especially after the ending. Though I don't see myself ever being interested in.....

 

- Weird Solas Porn

- ****** Erotic Solas Porn

- Signatures with him walking away focused on his butt

- etc... etc...

 

I've stepped into a pool of water that surprisingly went way over my head.

That's like every character support thread.  At least I put it under spoiler. I'm very civilized. 



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Does anyone have the answer to this question....

 

How old is Solas?

 

According to Weekes, he's in his "forties". How many numbers there are to the left of that 40... that's anyone's guess.


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#59745
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I have come to the conclusion that I don't fit in with you guys on this Solas Obssession. Yeah, he is one of my favorite characters in the game especially after the ending. Though I don't see myself ever being interested in.....

 

- Weird Solas Porn

- ****** Erotic Solas Porn

- Signatures with him walking away focused on his butt

- etc... etc...

 

I've stepped into a pool of water that surprisingly went way over my head.

LOL that's k, pull up to my table :lol: Lonely over here.

 

Not interested in weird solas porn and I'm straight as an arrow, couldn't bend me with a black hole. So I'm not interested in fantasizing about him either, but I'm still a fan. Still enjoy reading about him and marveling at his skill with the Dennis system.


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Does anyone have the answer to this question....

 

How old is Solas?

But I heard that he should be around 6000 yr old as Dread Wolf.. Sth like that ö.Ö 



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I blame the Solas romance being ambiguous so you gain a wide range of people from asexual to horny as f*ck people. Because of that, you run into problems so it's a courtesy. 
 
On the bright side, I enjoy joking about using the thread cycle chart to argue that you aren't allowed to complain until someone talks about smut. THEN you are free to complain.


Don't forget about the sapiosexual weirdos like myself. For me, intelligent conversation... sex... sort of the same thing. Hence the Solas romance so difficult for me to steer away from.
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LOL that's k, pull up to my table :lol: Lonely over here.

 

I'm straight as an arrow, couldn't bend me with a black hole, but I'm still a fan. Still enjoy reading about him and marveling at his skill with the Dennis system.

Hahaha the Dennis system.  I think that was the last time you really said anything over here.



#59749
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WELCOME TO NUTJOBVILLE!   @w@   Pay no attention to the unnecessarily complicated version, though.  I wrote all that up before realizing the writers had been hitting us over the head with the key the whole time.  The "fade" of the game world and our reality share basic laws that are bent, but never broken.  Realizing that would have made explaining the rest so much simpler.

 

Triad Magic is Nuclear Fission.  

tumblr_nii2nvRHQw1u7y7edo1_400.gif

Ta da!  The Wife and Husband are the bonded nucleus.  The Lover is the free neutron.  Like all fission, the split releases a truly absurd amount of power.  Catastrophic results and toxic aftermath are the obvious thematic bonus.

 

Creation Magic is Biological Fusion.

 

All life on Thedas, and even the planet itself, comes from Fusion.  The merging of Sun and Earth.  Physical and Fade.  And if you want to get disturbingly literal with the imagery of the Sun "dragon" and the Earth....

 

 

tumblr_nii2g7NtNN1u7y7edo1_250.gif

 

...there you go.  @w@

 

There's actually a third type, a middle ground between the two that most obviously applies to Mythal in game, but might also point to the underlying nature of "everyday" magic with respect to the Stone (Thedas).  Like Creation magic, it's the intersection of Physical and Fade- but like Triad magic, the fade component is consumed by its use.  It is Earth and Sun as Coal and Fire.

 

tumblr_nii4k4ijbd1u7y7edo1_400.gif

 

The combination burns, producing power at a cost: a measure of Earth is irrecoverably lost every time.  Again, I'm still uncertain whether this holds true with generic magic's Fade component, which from a certain perspective would be the Stone's literal "soul".  Need more data.  The inferred environmental / conservationist subtext wouldn't be too out of place- this is Bioware, not Rockstar North.  Also the steady leeching of a finite magic reserve leading toward conditions of modern Earth supports the "worthy struggle" theme.  Mage-style magic is still too easy as a means of Change, just as Eden was too easy. Difficulty is what makes change meaningful, worthwhile, lasting, etc, etc.    

 

This, though, is why Mythal's orb looks like it was crafted from Anthracite Coal, just like the shell of her physical body after transferring the last of her power to Solas.  (The bright blue flame graphic is a telling hint.)  Her immortal OGS remains to be transferred to Morrigan, but the reserve of ancient Fade she carried into this world (the remains of her soul, her power) is completely spent. Once Solas uses that flame, there is no more.  

 

SCIENCE. YES. 

 

Ok I have a few things to add because this is one of the few times I can actually be relevant! Joy.

 

For your fire & coal theory:  the coal isn't actually irreversibly lost- as matter can neither be created nor destroyed.  It is a combustion reaction! Chemistry! Fun! Ok so: Any time you burn something, what you see is an exothermic combustion reaction - where the compound and air combine to form water & carbon dioxide as products.  These two products are always formed. The compound, coal in this scenario, has of a lot of carbon and hydrogen bonds, that is where the C's and H's come from in your products. Water and carbon dioxide are not inert compounds, they can react with a lot of things in the environment, so perhaps instead of the earth -in your scenario- being irreversibly lost, perhaps it is merely in a different form, waiting for an opportunity to react with something.  Like maybe create/form something entirely different? Different is not always bad!

 

BY THE WAY. Did you ever get my response to your PM? I tried to write things clearly but uh... sorry. I got excited. I hope I helped.


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#59750
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I have come to the conclusion that I don't fit in with you guys on this Solas Obssession. Yeah, he is one of my favorite characters in the game especially after the ending. Though I don't see myself ever being interested in.....

- Weird Solas Porn
- ****** Erotic Solas Porn
- Signatures with him walking away focused on his butt
- etc... etc...

I've stepped into a pool of water that surprisingly went way over my head.


Feel free to skip out on it, then.

I'm sure there are other threads on the BSN that don't contain smut, porn references, humorous gifs, or whatever else about this thread that isn't your taste.

Well, probably not, actually, but good luck.