I really love how they're holding hands in the last scene. Those big YAOI hands holding Lav's little teeny tiny delicate ones 
If Dragon Age could be a musical, he would sing a cheesy Stephen Sondheim song about "the truth" to her at this moment haha XD I really want this.
I've got nothing on theorizing besides that the tevinter believed lake calenhad was blessed by a god, and that it would grant wisdom if you drank from them, which sounds like the well of sorrows to me. More borrowed legends from elves perhaps.
The Tevinters believed that the waters of Lake Calenhad were blessed by Razikale, god of mysteries, and that those who drank from them were granted special insights. This was why they built the great tower on an island in the middle of the lake, hoping the powers of the lake would aid their magical research.
http://dragonage.wik...:_Lake_Calenhad
Something about water people attach to wisdom, I guess because unlike land, water is free flowing and easily manipulated like the fade.
Hmm. Andruil's hare symbol and the fact that Cullen insists Lake Calenhand "looks like a bunny" isn't useful in the least. Discarding for now.
There may be something here, but I don't have all the pieces. In theory, the Saga of Tyrrda Brightaxe seems to link Andruil/Ghil to the Avvaar, which makes the battle they remember between Korth and the serpent Nathramar suspicious in light of Andruil's ToM codex. (The one describing Mythal taking serpent form and waiting to ambush red lyrium Andruil at the "base of a mountain".) Same story? Likely. Completely bizarre that they remember Ghil as the Lady and Andruil as Korth, though. I suppose, given the timeline, she would have been in her full red lyrium June-Approved ™ golem outfit at the time. Tough to make out gender in something like that, and knowing June, probably would have looked super dwarven from the outside.
Still makes the Saga kind of crazy. I don't have the lore background to even guess what the writers might be trying to hint at here.
Hmm. The fact that Lake Calenhand "looks like a bunny" and Andruil's hare symbol seems coincidental at best- discarding for now. =w=
There may be something here, but I don't have all the pieces. In theory, the Saga of Tyrrda Brightaxe seems to link Andruil/Ghil to the Avvaar, which makes the battle they remember as being between Korth and the serpent Nathramar suspicious in light of Andruil's ToM codex. (The one describing Mythal taking serpent form and waiting to ambush red lyrium Andruil at the "base of a mountain".) Same place? Seems likely. Completely bizarre that they remember Ghil as the Lady and Andruil as Koth, though. I suppose, given the timeline, she would have been in her full red lyrium June-Approved ™ golem outfit at the time.
Still makes the Saga kind of crazy. I don't have the lore background to even guess what the writers might be trying to hint at here.
Me neither, lol but I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks "something" is there.
Hmm. The fact that Lake Calenhand "looks like a bunny" and Andruil's hare symbol seems coincidental at best- discarding for now. =w=
There may be something here, but I don't have all the pieces. In theory, the Saga of Tyrrda Brightaxe seems to link Andruil/Ghil to the Avvaar, which makes the battle they remember as being between Korth and the serpent Nathramar suspicious in light of Andruil's ToM codex. (The one describing Mythal taking serpent form and waiting to ambush red lyrium Andruil at the "base of a mountain".) Same place? Seems likely. Completely bizarre that they remember Ghil as the Lady and Andruil as Koth, though. I suppose, given the timeline, she would have been in her full red lyrium June-Approved ™ golem outfit at the time. Tough to make out gender in something like that, and knowing June, probably would have looked super dwarven from the outside.
Still makes the Saga kind of crazy. I don't have the lore background to even guess what the writers might be trying to hint at here.
After reading the story of Korth and his heart, I couldn't help but compare it to Flemeth and her soul, or Cory and his dragon. Just random feelings here. I think I need sleep.
After reading the story of Korth and his heart, I couldn't help but compare it to Flemeth and her soul, or Cory and his dragon. Just random feelings here. I think I need sleep.
The story of Korth and his heart? I don't think I've seen this- my grasp on lore is super patchy. Is this a DAI codex entry, or pulled from elsewhere?
The story of Korth and his heart? I don't think I've seen this- my grasp on lore is super patchy. Is this a DAI codex entry, or pulled from elsewhere?
Its a codex entry. He got rid of his heart I think so he couldn't die, but by doing so, he grew cruel and killed a bunch of people.
Then some underdog found the heart against the odds and I think they destroyed it....
Let me just see if I can find the codex entry, lol. That's the barebones summary though.
I really love how they're holding hands in the last scene. Those big YAOI hands holding Lav's little teeny tiny delicate ones
If Dragon Age could be a musical, he would sing a cheesy Stephen Sondheim song about "the truth" to her at this moment haha XD I really want this.
I am sorry but I have to admit that I was staring more at his ass than his hand XDDDDDDDDDDD
Its a codex entry. He got rid of his heart I think so he couldn't die, but by doing so, he grew cruel and killed a bunch of people.
Then some underdog found the heart against the odds and I think they destroyed it....
Let me just see if I can find the codex entry, lol. That's the barebones summary though.
Interesting. And completely bizarre. Not a bad overall fit for red lyrium Andruil thematically, but still a bit.... crazy.
So Hakkon Wintersbreath = June, the Lady = Ghil, and Korth = Andruil...
gah. I need more lore to connect anything useful.
Wowow, have you guys seen this gorgeous fanart yet:
http://captaincrapst...this-sketchbook
wat? I don't see big yaoi hands. I see normal hands for that height. But do you know that if your hand is bigger than your face, it means your IQ is predicted to be less than the average person? Try it.
'When the world was young, Korth the Mountain-Father kept his throne at the peak of Belenas, the mountain that lies at the center of the world, from which he could see all the corners of earth and sky." Can't help but be reminded of the theories about Arlathan having been buried in the center of the Earth, and the Black City being its reflection in the center of the Fade. Also, all that evidence we have that ties elven gods to the Frostbacks. Skyfall and Mythal's Temple of Sacred Ashes.
"He sent avalanches and earthquakes to torment the tribes of men." Elgar'nan's Song talks about fighting back against the earthquakes.
"Gods and men rose up against him, calling him a tyrant, but with no heart, Korth could not be slain." Reminds me of the Sun, or our theories about Solas.
Hmm.
Time to investigate the Avvar. 
My guess is that when humanity showed up, the Creators saw them the same way the Dalish legends paint the early Elvhen. Somewhat barbaric, clueless. (Okay, so the Neromenians had the logistical and nautical knowledge to sail from Par Vollen to Seheron to Nocen Bay, all while moving a truly enormous amount of people. So they were already pretty talented. Then again, so were the pre-Creator elves, as well.) So the Creators (some of them) took them under their wing, nurturing and demanding their worship in similar ways, just under different names.
The Avvar have a trickster, don't they?
I think Kinloch Hold was built by the Avvar. Which makes all the magical weirdness going on there quit interesting. And it's probably why the Vints drove them out in the first place. Magical weirdness is kind of their thing.
The Circle Tower was indeed originally built by the Avvar with help from the dwarves, as evidenced by it's official name "Kinloch Hold" being Avvar in origin, who refer to their settlements as Holds (like Wyvern Hold and Redhold).
I also read somewhere, that it's partial dwarven construction also meant the place was built to be resistant to magical attacks, allowing them to hold out against the Tevinters for a while until the fortress ultimately fell. But I can't find any source for it, so take that last part with a grain of salt?
I remember the guard at Ostagar talking about how it was dwarven make from the Tevinter era, and I think that's when the Kinloch Hold codex entry popped up? Well, if not, I think I remember that they were built around the same time as they were twin towers or something? Or was there a third somewhere?
I think that the similar construction styles might have been due to the dwarves having helped to build Ostagar and Kinloch, as well as possibly aiding the Tevinters in attempting to rebuild Kinloch in their own style, before the Vints decided to abandon the fortress?
And the third fortress was Aeonar, the twin of Ostagar, that lies at the other end of the Imperial Highway.
http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Hafter
http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Dane
What is it with Ferelden and their greatest heroes sailing off into the Amaranthine Ocean? 
Or just wandering off in general?
http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Avvar
It's fascinating that Korth the Mountain Father is attributed as the father of the dwarves. Most other non-dwarf religions forget about the dwarves, or just shrug when asked how they fit into things.
They also have tattoos like vallaslin and vitaar and the brands, which reminds me of Liz's theory about them all descending from the slave-brands of Arlathan.
Also, there's four major Avvar gods.
Korth the Mountain Father
The Lady of the Skies
Haakon Wintersbreath
Imhar the Clever
There's three Forgotten Ones plus Fen'harel.
Just saying. 
So, question - am I missing something, or is there basically no Solas scenes between the balcony scene and the breakup? Seems a bit quiet.
There are only three scenes. One for the fade, one the balcony, and one for the break up.
What is it with Ferelden and their greatest heroes sailing off into the Amaranthine Ocean?
It's part of being in the Fereldan Hero Club, what do you expect from a group who's unofficial motto is;
"I must go now, my planet needs me..."
I've been trying to get my sister to romance Solas for her third playthrough. She is also partly the reason why I got interested in Solas in the first place. She got the game before me so she was ahead of me by a few days and told me that Solas is a very interesting character. She played a Lavellan as well but when I asked why she didn't romance him she said it's because he was bald.
That was when she was still early in the game though. She now finds him rather handsome and of course she knows about the sadness of his romance scenes via YouTube (she even cried at the final romance scene).
I just want her to properly experience the Solas romance since watching YouTube videos of it is not entirely the same thing. Plus, I want her to wallow in misery with me.
She must! She simply must! It truly is different experiencing the romance first hand. She's going to love the little bits in between the romance scenes, the party banter, and the spaces she can fill with her headcanon. Let us know when (not if, when, it's not up for debate ) she starts playing and what she thinks about it!
I have a younger sister myself, and she's well on her way to becoming a Dragon Age fan. She's been playing on her Human Noble Warden for a while, but she recently told me that she made a Dalish Warden because she was "so inspired by Solas and Lavellan". I don't know about you guys, but that amuses me to no end. The romance ushered one Dalish Warden into creation. Solavellan game strong.
I'm not sure if this one has been posted before, but while I was walking in Exalted Plains I found this:
In the middle there is Fen'harel, The Dread Wolf book and on the side there's a skull with tentacles looking a lot like this:
This has probably been done before. Maybe I'm just looking iinto it waayy too much. 
There are only three scenes. One for the fade, one the balcony, and one for the break up.
Anyone want a silent drawing chatroom session?
Ah, that's a bummer. Feels pretty empty between the balcony and the rest of the game. Hopefully there's more in a future DLC or something.
yeah it does. Cullen and Solas were made as last additional romances yet Cullen has 8 scenes. One may argue that Cullen is an adviser so there are less times you could visit him or Anything Solas is too plot-driven. But you could make a romance without a plot scene so I'm a bit confused on why other than time constraints.
It's possible what we're supposed to take from the tale is that Ghil figured out a way to reach Andruil through the madness of red lyrium. Not a cure, exactly- but something that allowed her to function as Andruil rather than an extension of the Sun's will. Almost like what the Architect did with Grey Warden blood to "free" the darkspawn.
*ponders*
No idea what that correlation would be, though. I assume the ptarmigan is a symbolic stand-in for... something?
I have a younger sister myself, and she's well on her way to becoming a Dragon Age fan. She's been playing on her Human Noble Warden for a while, but she recently told me that she made a Dalish Warden because she was "so inspired by Solas and Lavellan". I don't know about you guys, but that amuses me to no end.
So it's kinda like Solas and Lavellan had a child >.>
I'm not sure if this one has been posted before, but while I was walking in Exalted Plains I found this:
Spoiler
In the middle there is Fen'harel, The Dread Wolf book and on the side there's a skull with tentacles looking a lot like this:
This has probably been done before. Maybe I'm just looking iinto it waayy too much.
I've never seen that! It's got to be intentional.
wat? I don't see big yaoi hands. I see normal hands for that height. But do you know that if your hand is bigger than your face, it means your IQ is predicted to be less than the average person? Try it.
I'm onto you 
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