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Not to mention your romance has a lot more to talk about due to his god status and lore, and being involved with the main plot.

 

Cass has that last one, but she's no god. At most there's wondering about what she said about spirits of faith, and what or who the "divine" was in the fade.

 

So you've got sads, but at least there's that.

Agreed about the fact the lore aspect brings a lot there. I loved the Cullen romance and it was so fluffy (and I heard Cassandra's romance is quite nice too. I might need to do a male IQ for her. I love her), but there were none of the future game-lore aspects to it. I think that went into Bioware's thinking when they added Solas' romance in that last year too. I don't feel like we didn't get enough, but I definitely need resolution now.



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Agreed about the fact the lore aspect brings a lot there. I loved the Cullen romance and it was so fluffy (and I heard Cassandra's romance is quite nice too. I might need to do a male IQ for her. I love her), but there were none of the future game-lore aspects to it. I think that went into Bioware's thinking when they added Solas' romance in that last year too. I don't feel like we didn't get enough, but I definitely need resolution now.

Cass' romance was good enough that I now favor her over Morrigan... which says a lot since I was and still am a big Morrigan fangirl. But Cass is just so... imperfectly perfect. I don't know, but she presses all my buttons. Badass, not afraid to be a ****** when she needs to, but has a surprisingly soft side under all of that.

 

Biggest thing is wondering what to do with her and the seekers and the divine issue. I'd rather not give her to those chucklefuck orlesians. They don't deserve her. But at the same time, I don't want her resenting me for not supporting what she herself wants to do. So I'm more inclined to make her divine.

 

Her romance card stays the same if you don't break up with her and she's made divine, so like you all for Solas, I still have hope for the future despite the initial split up.


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Oh my. I think that's the first "pajama" mod I've really loved. Is there a link for it somewhere?

She says it's almost done and she'll post it on nexus! I'm following her on tumblr, I'll post it here if I see when it's finished. ;)

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When people say that Solas's romance seems short I keep wondering why I don't feel the same.
I think I have finally clocked on to why that is.
Dragon Age 2. That's why.
 
I may be misremembering because it's been a while, but in DA2 there was sod all wasn't there? I only did the romances Anders, Fenris and Isabela. I seem to remember there was nothing but a few hilariously dodgy flirts in Act 1. Then in Act 2 you got your make out scene and rubbish fade-to-black fully clothed 'it is heavily implied we are ploughing each other now' scene. Then, I don't seem to remember much in Act3 other than a few chats here and there, oh and Anders moving in with you. I think only Fenris provided some love with that pre-final battle snog. 
 
So, yeah. In comparison to other companions in DAI then I can appreciate Solas not seeming like loads of content. But as he was my first DAI romance, it seemed like loads in comparison to what I'd had before.
Heh.
Actually, even after the Dorian romance I still don't feel totally short changed about it either.
Maybe I'd feel differently with the other romances if I COULD STOP ROMANCING EITHER SOLAS OR DORIAN ALL THE TIME.
*weeps*
 
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I felt like all the convos with Solas were wonderful, and it didn't really feel short. However since I went through all the conversations as soon as I could, ther was a huge gap with no romance content between his quest and his final cutscene. While I love hearing him say ma vhenan, I would like to have more to talk about (listen to him talk) in the middle of the game :) But I never thought it was short, just left me wanting more. Lol
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Cass' romance was good enough that I now favor her over Morrigan... which says a lot since I was and still am a big Morrigan fangirl. But Cass is just so... imperfectly perfect. I don't know, but she presses all my buttons. Badass, not afraid to be a ****** when she needs to, but has a surprisingly soft side under all of that.

 

Biggest thing is wondering what to do with her and the seekers and the divine issue. I'd rather not give her to those chucklefuck orlesians. They don't deserve her. But at the same time, I don't want her resenting me for not supporting what she herself wants to do. So I'm more inclined to make her divine.

 

Her romance card stays the same if you don't break up with her and she's made divine, so like you all for Solas, I still have hope for the future despite the initial split up.

Can the Divine have a lover or is that really frowned upon? :P I somehow don't see Cass keeping a lover on the side if it's wrong. Her sense of morality and honor is too strong.



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There's always a bright side.
 

 
Oooo, I wonder if the devs will take Solas's approval of the Inky into consideration when they meet.
 
I'll probably have to shelve some of my more ambitious ideas for the moment too.


Hey, if they can do it for Morrigan's relationship with the Warden (I hear she's much warmer and kinder if the Warden befriended and/or romanced her), they can do it for Solas and the Inquisitor. In true BioWare fashion, I'm sure he's going to go through with his plan and possibly have run-ins with the PC no matter what. But if romanced, I'd like to think he would be more at peace, open to reason, and possibly easier to redeem? (Please!)
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Can teh Divine have a lover or is that really frowned upon? :P I somehow don't see Cass keeping a lover on the side if it's wrong. Her sense of morality and honor is too strong.

That's what a lot of the others are saying too, but who knows. It seems like a break up sort of, but then, wouldn't they change the romance card back?

 

The Lels changed the law later. Who knows, Cass might do it for love :wub:  She does tend to go against the expected when it comes to matters of the chantry sometimes. A lot of her Divine reforms are vague and say nothing, so who knows. The writers just said "Wait and see" for if the relationship is over, so there's still something more in the future, whatever it is.

 

Who knows, maybe she just won't stay the Divine, then she comes back to you. I'm fine with waiting. Lol I don't need her chained to my side 24/7 like some of my fellow Cass fans.



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Cass' romance was good enough that I now favor her over Morrigan... which says a lot since I was and still am a big Morrigan fangirl. But Cass is just so... imperfectly perfect. I don't know, but she presses all my buttons. Badass, not afraid to be a ****** when she needs to, but has a surprisingly soft side under all of that.

 

Biggest thing is wondering what to do with her and the seekers and the divine issue. I'd rather not give her to those chucklefuck orlesians. They don't deserve her. But at the same time, I don't want her resenting me for not supporting what she herself wants to do. So I'm more inclined to make her divine.

 

Her romance card stays the same if you don't break up with her and she's made divine, so like you all for Solas, I still have hope for the future despite the initial split up.

I couldn't make her Divine.  It's not that I think she'll make a bad Divine, but I think a softened Leiliana is the better candidate.  Sorry Cass.  Both want to be Divine so at the end of the day I made the decision that I thought would be right for Thedas.  So right now, my Lavellan and Cass are tearing.****.up.  In reality, it's mostly just me picking the snarky conversation option and Cassandra rolling her eyes. 

 

I have hope for the Solas-mance.  He's obviously still alive and coming back. 



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That's what a lot of the others are saying too, but who knows. It seems like a break up sort of, but then, wouldn't they change the romance card back?

 

The Lels changed the law later. Who knows, Cass might do it for love :wub:  She does tend to go against the expected when it comes to matters of the chantry sometimes. A lot of her Divine reforms are vague and say nothing, so who knows. The writers just said "Wait and see" for if the relationship is over, so there's still something more in the future, whatever it is.

 

Who knows, maybe she just won't stay the Divine, then she comes back to you. I'm fine with waiting. Lol I don't need her chained to my side 24/7 like some of my fellow Cass fans.

 

That's a very sensible attitude.

 

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I don't think (atleast I hope) any romance is over (unless you/the IQ broke up)

The devs probably have plans for the future... 



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So I've been re-reading The Masked Empire and an exchange between Bria and Felassan towards the end of the book really made me have thoughts (and they're lovely thoughts - like little butterflies). 

 

When Bria claims the eluvians for elves of Oralais she uses the story of Fen'Harel and the Tree as her inspiration as she plans to use the chaos caused by two sides fighting to work for the freedom of her people.  She tells Felassan 'I think Fen'Harel would've approved'.  Felassan's reply?  He laughs and tells 'He might have, although I very much doubt it.'

 

When I first read TME I assumed that there was a lot we didn't know of the elven gods and Felassan, being an ancient elf, knew a lot more than Bria did.  So I assumed that Bria had a very safe view of Fen'Harel and the real Fen'Harel had delighted in war.  It was a fair assumption.  The ending of the book implies Felassan was working for, and killed by, Fen'Harel.

 

Obviously, that changed with DAI.

 

So I've been thinking about what Felassan meant with that line.  Solas doesn't approve of the chaos caused by war.  He's the party member to talk about the refugees in Hinterlands and say the Inquisition should help them.  I think that the line is referring to that aspect of Solas' character.  He cares about the little people (he and Sera really should get along better than they actually do...) and drawing out a war to gain freedom goes against everything Solas now stands for.

 

But I'm curious: do other people think that line lends weight to the 'Fen'Harel killed Felassan' theory?  Or not?

 

EDIT: Should clarify.  I'm very, very against the 'Solas killed Felassan' theory.  Given his disinterest in the eluvian network in DAI it doesn't fit with the 'murder a follower because they failed you' thing.


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Aww, this video's great. Never saw this spliced version before. :) And yes, 1000 Words does fit the Solavellan relationship really well.

 

Watching the video made me think, what if Solas and Lavellan's romance ended like Shuyin and Lenne's? Ugh! Now that would be tragic.  :crying: 

 

Ugh, indeed!  I guess you get that whenever a Game Over happens... but yeah, JRPG angst is OP.  Although,

Spoiler
  X-2 has mixed reviews, but I liked some of the things they did with the story, like having the former damsel (who gets pretty powerful in the prior game) going out to rescue her guy.  Having a "post-triumph" story as an epilogue to get a happier ending is a nice way to balance the big stories and the more personal ones.

 

Agreed about the fact the lore aspect brings a lot there. I loved the Cullen romance and it was so fluffy (and I heard Cassandra's romance is quite nice too. I might need to do a male IQ for her. I love her), but there were none of the future game-lore aspects to it. I think that went into Bioware's thinking when they added Solas' romance in that last year too. I don't feel like we didn't get enough, but I definitely need resolution now.

It's funny - Cullen's romance addition feels like a bonus for the loyal fans since DAO; I recall seeing his DA2 forum thread count higher than either of the actual male love interests' at some point.  But Solas' - even though it was added later "to make it sadder" - feels like a more  "canon" romance that gives the player more access to the lore.  (Funny that the default world state has a Dalish Warden - elven heroes are favored?)

 

Cass' romance was good enough that I now favor her over Morrigan... which says a lot since I was and still am a big Morrigan fangirl. But Cass is just so... imperfectly perfect. I don't know, but she presses all my buttons. Badass, not afraid to be a ****** when she needs to, but has a surprisingly soft side under all of that.

Your love of Cass is an inspiration, and that's exactly why I like her too.  I could see the romance with her being another "canon" possibility because of the political angle (I'm working on making her the Divine this time around).  (not implying other romances aren't important, just that these two are really embedded in the story and world).

 

I'm new to these threads (was avoiding spoilers for my first playthrough), so maybe it's been talked about already...  Both Solas and Cass emphasize one theme I've seen for a lot of the characters - no one is who they seem to be:

 

Solas:

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Cass: Closet romantic

Iron Bull: not just a meathead

Cole: not-spirit, not-human

Dorian: Tevinter patriot, but not eeeevil

Blackwall: 'nuff said

 

Question: not that I'd want to ever break up with anyone, but I haven't seen any breakup options with Solas.  Is it a glitch, or does he just own me?


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That's what a lot of the others are saying too, but who knows. It seems like a break up sort of, but then, wouldn't they change the romance card back?

 

The Lels changed the law later. Who knows, Cass might do it for love :wub:  She does tend to go against the expected when it comes to matters of the chantry sometimes. A lot of her Divine reforms are vague and say nothing, so who knows. The writers just said "Wait and see" for if the relationship is over, so there's still something more in the future, whatever it is.

 

Who knows, maybe she just won't stay the Divine, then she comes back to you. I'm fine with waiting. Lol I don't need her chained to my side 24/7 like some of my fellow Cass fans.

She's way too independant to be chained to any man anyway!

 

*clears throat* Well, now that we've derailed the thread enough, have a Solas!

 

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I don't think he approve of war, but sees the necessity to it. 

To change something to the better you sometimes have to do bad things. And people will suffer.

Iconic, but that's a fact. 



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But I'm curious: do other people think that line lends weight to the 'Fen'Harel killed Felassan' theory?  Or not?

I don't think that was Fen'Harel. So the final line of Felassan where he's like 'I know you won't like but she reminds me a bit of -' and then snuffs it.  I think he was going to say Briala reminded him a bit of Fen'Harel because of her altruistic desire to help her people. Whoever killed Felassan - I'm sure we'll find out - but it was someone else. Another god.  Someone that hasn't even been introduced yet. We shall see!



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I couldn't make her Divine.  It's not that I think she'll make a bad Divine, but I think a softened Leiliana is the better candidate.  Sorry Cass.  Both want to be Divine so at the end of the day I made the decision that I thought would be right for Thedas.  So right now, my Lavellan and Cass are tearing.****.up.  In reality, it's mostly just me picking the snarky conversation option and Cassandra rolling her eyes. 

 

I have hope for the Solas-mance.  He's obviously still alive and coming back. 

 

I couldn't ever make Lels divine because I think she's an airhead since Origins, and that her reforms are too (here's that word again) Idealistic. Chick is bound to be assassinated or something, and my beliefs align more with viviene's when it comes to mages.



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Biggest thing is wondering what to do with her and the seekers and the divine issue. I'd rather not give her to those chucklefuck orlesians. They don't deserve her. But at the same time, I don't want her resenting me for not supporting what she herself wants to do. So I'm more inclined to make her divine.

 

Her romance card stays the same if you don't break up with her and she's made divine, so like you all for Solas, I still have hope for the future despite the initial split up.

I love Cass and that is why my inital impulse was not to make her Divine. Because I do not think she wants it. She wants to see change and is willing to fulfil her duty of bringing it about if need be. But she is a soldier at heart and not made for all that political intrigue and hogwash. I feel affirmed by her own reactions. When you ask her if this is what she wants she does not actually answer as she usually would, instead she comes up with some pseudo-answer along the lines of "Does not matter what I want". Also, when you tell her that there are other ways to change things she approves.

What she wants to do is rebuild the Seekers, and I think that is what she should do.

If she went to be Divine it would mean a lot of hardship. Also because she would face the cold truth that some things cannot be changed and that some attempts are in vain because you do not always hold all the strings in your own hands (just see the mess in Kirkwall). I fear this might even shake her faith.

(Also, the epilogue with her as my Divine was not so satisfying that I want to put that burden on her... "not worth the sacrifice")

 

Alight, I don't make Lelianna Divine anymore. For a very simple reason, which is this one line she says. "People are sheep, they need to follow" (or similar). That is awful, that is my absolute no-go. She assumes that people are uneducated (or rather even dumb) and instead of educating them she just wants to dictate what should be done. I do not support a dictator Divine. Our world has seen enough people who believed to know what's right and that people just have to be led into that one correct direction. We know what comes from this sort of arrogance. Unfortunately, I just found out this side of her when I did not support her in my second playthrough (but the first should be my canon because in real life I also cannot just go back and change my decisions).

 

I am not so sure about Vivienne. 50:50. She wants to restore what was (and since Solas wants the same, probably this is the thread-appropriate choice), with slight improvements (okay, maybe not so thread-appropriate). I really don't know where this will lead us. She is, after all, the first mage to take that title and this alone is worth a lot, I guess. Could improve things for all mages in a more subtle, more elegant fashion. And because I am not sure there is so much potential in her, so that's why I suppose she would be my choice.

(Actually, I only supported Lelianna in my first playthrough because I had allowed someone else to decide this one bit. I had considered Vivinne right away, because I did not want to burn Cass and I did not fully trust Lelianna.)

 

In the end, it all will come down to the same mess anyhow.

 

Yay. My longest off-topic post ever.

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I don't think that was Fen'Harel. So the final line of Felassan where he's like 'I know you won't like but she reminds me a bit of -' and then snuffs it.  I think he was going to say Briala reminded him a bit of Fen'Harel because of her altruistic desire to help her people. Whoever killed Felassan - I'm sure we'll find out - but it was someone else. Another god.  Someone that hasn't even been introduced yet. We shall see!

 

Maybe that other one, what's his name... Falon'Din... (?) 


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I don't think that was Fen'Harel. So the final line of Felassan where he's like 'I know you won't like but she reminds me a bit of -' and then snuffs it.  I think he was going to say Briala reminded him a bit of Fen'Harel because of her altruistic desire to help her people. Whoever killed Felassan - I'm sure we'll find out - but it was someone else. Another god.  Someone that hasn't even been introduced yet. We shall see!

 

When I first read it assumed Flemeth or Fen'Harel.  I did always think that he was about to say how much Bria reminded him of Fen'Harel.



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Is Viviene a good Divine?  I haven't made her Divine yet..I might in my Qunari play through..just to see.



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She's way too independant to be chained to any man anyway!

 

*clears throat* Well, now that we've derailed the thread enough, have a Solas!

 

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Is Viviene a good Divine?  I haven't made her Divine yet..I might in my Qunari play through..just to see.

Depends who you ask. Personally, if you're friends with Vivienne and she has support from the inquisition, I consider her my ideal divine, only because I don't know specifically what Cass does. I suspect that Cass would be better, but I dont truly know. Cass feels like the safe option of the three.

 

If you believe mages should have more freedoms but not be without the circles, then Vivienne's a good divine.

 

If you like Fiona though.. like I do so I'm conflicted... then probably not. LOL


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Is Viviene a good Divine?  I haven't made her Divine yet..I might in my Qunari play through..just to see.

 

Not for me but it all depends on how you feel about mage freedom. 



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I don't even know how to make her Divine..it never came up in my other playthroughs . Probably because I rarely talk to her. :P



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When I first read it assumed Flemeth or Fen'Harel.  I did always think that he was about to say how much Bria reminded him of Fen'Harel.

 

What if it was... Corypheus? Using the elven orb to compel Felassan?

 

...Nah. Still going with either another Elven God or a Forgetten One


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