Should be able to just run away. Watch out for fireballs, lol. You can run from the others. Had to do that with the Frostback one a few times I tried her too early.
If you run from that dragon and go talk to that guy (his name eludes me at the moment) do you still finish the mission?
You don't have to kill a single dragon if you don't like.
Ignore the landmark and the Ocularum (or send a rogue with the invisibility ability).
Let the sleeping dragons sleep.
Live without one more agent for the inquisition.
Kill not a single dragon.
You can make any moral choice you want.
I forgot about that invisibility thing... D'oh!!
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Caught that, did you? Lol. It's kind of a shame Blackwall was meant to be the default romance for a female I quisitor. The one with Solas seems so much more natural. And if I'm going to be lied to and left regardless, I'd rather it be by Solas. Even if Blackwall does come back eventually...
I'm sure Solas will return eventually as well. And it will be magical. #teamoptimismftw
I don't normally, but given how colorful this thread is... 
On the "romance enhances the story" topic.I was originally going to romance Cullen. That lasted... well, five minutes into the game, up until I met Solas. The scene where you meet him for the first time - just the my Lav looked at him after he introduced himself screamed "there's some chemistry going on here!" to me.Then there's his talk about the orb. I think it feels much more powerful if you romance him; like he's trusting Lav with information he wouldn't give to anyone else, which feels like a confirmation of trust between them.Then, his narration as he leads you to Skyhold. I don't really see him and Lav as equals here; it's more like he becomes a mentor figure, and I love it, because it goes to show that he really is more than he pretends to be. I love the way he guides her, but doesn't want recognition - or anything else - in return and lets her look like a hero to others. I really wish there'd be an option to thank him for that. Then, when you reach Skyhold, Lav is like "Woah~", and he just stands here, looking pleased. Aww....so, this is the reason I could never romance anyone else. All these scenes just scream "chemistry!" and feel so much more powerful if you are romancing Solas
That's a really good point. I didn't notice it too much the first time I played and still thought I might romance Sera, but after playing that scene again knowing my Lavellan and Solas would later fall in love, it just seemed that much more pronounced.
You're right, he definitely comes across as a mentor here. Many people have noticed parallels with Merlin and Nimue, and it's deserved.
I guess when I say "equal," I mean they shared equal weight in leading the people to Skyhold, in building up a great military fortress that restored people's faith and devotion to the Inquisition, and ultimately building the Inquisition into a world power to stand against Corypheus. Again, Solas has the knowledge and understanding of how to get things done, and Lavellan follows his guidance in getting it done. If Solas had been the one to tell the people "I know a safe place we can go," it wouldn't have meant as much to them as if the Inquisitor did it, and they wouldn't have revered you as much as they did, and the Inquisition wouldn't have hit the ground running as it did the moment you entered Skyhold. Likewise, you wouldn't have known what to do or where to go to direct the people's faith as well had Solas not spoken up. You are the figurehead that people follow, but Solas is the power behind the throne that directs you where to lead the people.
And I don't know. From the moment the singing stops, I love how the scenes leading up to the discovery of Skyhold focuses on Solas and Lavellan. Everyone is still glowing with blind faith that the Herald will make things better, but you two are having the practical talk of "This is the way things really are and this is what we need to do to fix it." Then you two do the necessary work and planning to lead the people who have blind faith in the Herald and rebuild the Inquisition into a world power it needs to be to stop Corypheus.
It's just... I can't explain. It just feels so much more meaningful with a Lavellan romancing Solas.
I tried Knight-Enchanter yesterday for the first time. Oh. My. God. It's not just overpowered, it's insane! The only downside is that enemies tend to kick me down on the floor, so it's kill-kill-kill-roll-on-the-floor-kill-kill-kill. Knight-Enchanter kills everyone. Knight-Enchanter got a permanent barrier(sort of). Knight-Enchanter looks cool. Knight-Enchanter never runs out of mana. Knight-Enchanter protects Solas. It's not "hey, me and Solas - two Rift Mages together!", but it's still great.
You know, I wish that Presence from the Arcane Warrior quest in DAO could've seen one of his people doing that combat stance. I think it would have been proud.
Hah! I'm glad you said this.
I'm replaying my female Lavellan from the destruction of Haven onward, and decided to choose the Knight-Enchanter specialization. (Last time I couldn't choose between it and Rift mage, and so didn't choose any specialization at all.) Hopefully this time I can act as party tank/protector and not have to take Cassandra or Blackwall everywhere to fill up a companion spot I'd rather give to Cole.
Is it possible to disengage from that battle? I only killed it once and felt so guilty.
Disengage, no. You can run away, of course, but the quest will not be completed and the drgon basically remains. Better not bait her at all. You miss on that quest but so what? The agent is not really necessary to have.
The dragons in Emprise will prevent you from reaching the landmark and Ocularum - if they see you. If you go in stealth (alone, else your crew will give you away) it is all fine.
I just wanted to mention this itty bit of information.
SPOILER
People have been discussing who Solas's "people" are.
After the Orlesian Ball if you have made curtain decisions regarding Briala, you can have a possible conversation with Solas, where Levellan apoligizes for Briala's fate, the conversation then goes on to Solas explaining how he doesn't feel he has anything in common with the elves, and that they aren't "his people"
if you ask him who his people are, he sways the conversation and sais it isn't important.
therefore my theory is when he is refering to saving "his people" to simply put it I think he is refering to the elven "gods"
I said something similar downthread. I don't think Solas is or sees himself ultimately as an elf, in the same way as we [hopefully?] do not see ourselves or are the characters we play in this game called DA:I. Solas is a god or a spirit, that is what defines his ego and his notion of self... Every now and then he slips... Like when he describes vividly how the market in Val Royeaux once was, centuries ago... I think it was Blackwell who helped him out there "And you saw this in the Fade?" "Yes... In the Fade."
If you run from that dragon and go talk to that guy (his name eludes me at the moment) do you still finish the mission?
I guess no. But I have not tried. Want me to try?
But I'm curious: do other people think that line lends weight to the 'Fen'Harel killed Felassan' theory? Or not?
It is an interesting line! I would say that, much like everything else with Solas/Felassan, it could be read to support both theories.
On the 'Solas killed Felassan side': the line gives a direct link to Fen'Harel of the present. It shows that Felassan is aware that Fen'Harel is different in some capacity to the ways the stories depict him. If he were working directly for Fen'Harel, he would be in the position to know how Fen'Harel would react. Much more clear cut than the alternative, which is that Felassan is working for an unknown master but somehow also has intimate knowledge of how Fen'Harel would react.
There is a counter, however. Let us say we're rolling with the assumption that Felassan does have direct knowledge of how Fen'Harel would react in a given situation. Felassan suggests that he would not do as Briala did. That has a bit more of an ominous connotation taken just as it is. But at the end of the book, he still draws a comparison between Fen'Harel and Briala. Which turns the line a bit more of a positive. I doubt he would make the comparison if he thought that Fen'Harel's reaction would have been monstrous.
That doesn't mean he didn't kill him, but it does mean that Felassan continues to have a favorable read of Fen'Harel, which seems an odd thing to have if you are seconds from getting killed by him.
For me, the main thing that still keeps me from siding with the 'Solas killed Felassan' theory is the fact that there's no establishment of Solas requiring a passcode, or that his movements were restricted in any capacity. As far as we know, he just woke up.
But we do know the elven gods are likely trapped behind a mirror, and thus, would have ample need for eluvian passcodes. And it also explains why the elven god would be completely reliant on mortal servants. They can't physically go out and walk the world.
I guess no. But I have not tried. Want me to try?
If you want to. It would be nice to know. 
I still have a long way to go before I get there.
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Very pretty design.
Thanks.
He has a banter line disapproving of people using the chaos of war to further their own agenda, interestingly enough, so I think Briala was probably wrong. Although he is clever at taking a chaotic situation, and taking advantage of an opportunity out of necessity.. For example, encouraging the Quizzy to take the lead of the Inquisition. He does this, but notice he also disapproves of a Quizzy he doesn't like if they are arrogant about it (thinking of their followers as sheep). Maybe the difference is some people actually will cause conflict deliberately for power, so perhaps he doesn't like that aspect.
I don't know if he killed Felassan or not, but I think either he did, or an adversary of his did.
Yeah, I got this recently, can't remember the area but he says something like "It never ceases to amaze me how people use the chaos of war to satisfy their own greed [or was it ambition?]"
There is something going on in this "Abyss" and it somehow involves Mythal, Hawke, and Andruil!
Spoiler
What is the connection aah my brain is melting
If you want to. It would be nice to know.
I'm not sure, the frostback one's the only one I ever ran from. The dialogue he gives when you kill it to me makes it sound like you can leave. "Unfortunately, we had to kill it." You're there just to observe after all. Worth a try.
Personally, I'm just fine with killing the **** out of all of them, lol.
There is something going on in this "Abyss" and it somehow involves Mythal, Hawke, and Andruil!
Spoiler
What is the connection aah my brain is melting
If all this is linked, then that's very calculating by BW... almost a bit ... creepy... (but exciting)
I'm travelling with Solas and Vivienne in my party... didn't do it often previously. How good it is to finally hear Vivienne being mocked by a witty apostate... unlike every other companion, he knows what to say to embarass her and make her face her mistakes. I love him more and more^^
I love Solas vs Dorian
Round one: Dorian: "What message are you trying to send with those clothes? To me it says... 'I'm an apostate hobo.'"
Dorian 1.
Round two: Solas: "What's that? I COULDN'T HEAR YOU OVER YOUR OUTFIT!"
Solas... Win.
Re: romance being locked after break up
I know there has been a discussion about it back in December I think but has it been confirmed that it was a bug or not? I know most of us would think that locking up the romance after the balcony scene would make more sense but I think there are still a bunch of people that thinks it was intended by BW. Didn't we have someone who asked PW on Twitter? I can't remember.
Any thoughts?
Re: romance being locked after break up
I know there has been a discussion about it back in December I think but has it been confirmed that it was a bug or not? I know most of us would think that locking up the romance after the balcony scene would make more sense but I think there are still a bunch of people that thinks it was intended by BW. Didn't we have someone who asked PW on Twitter? I can't remember.
Any thoughts?
They haven't confirmed it's a bug yet. The pessimists swear up and down it is though.
I think it's intentional, and I say this because it's only after the break up that you can ask him to "talk about us", like with others LI after you lock in. Of course you don't get the kissy kissy smooch, but... yeah.Re: romance being locked after break up
I know there has been a discussion about it back in December I think but has it been confirmed that it was a bug or not? I know most of us would think that locking up the romance after the balcony scene would make more sense but I think there are still a bunch of people that thinks it was intended by BW. Didn't we have someone who asked PW on Twitter? I can't remember.
Any thoughts?
I'm pretty sure almost all the romances have an end-game lockout button. I don't think its a bug really. By the time Solas breaks up with you, the game is basically over.
From a more practical perspective, if they do add additional content with DLC, it is much, much easier for them just to lock you into a romance rather than deal with the possibility that you dumped them in the interim.
I believe ME3 used a similar system with their romances and DLC.
[ Edit: Furthermore, the tapestry only allows for one romance flag to be set. So ultimately it doesn't matter. You are effectively locked into only one canon romance no matter if the game lets you break up or not. ]
They haven't confirmed it's a bug yet. The pessimists swear up and down it is though.
Ok thanks. I'm following lots of Twitter accounts but I could always have missed this important information (it is to me lol) somehow, thus the need to ask.
I also would like to proclaim that I am on Team Optimism! 
*waves flag*
Edit: typo
Re: romance being locked after break up
I know there has been a discussion about it back in December I think but has it been confirmed that it was a bug or not? I know most of us would think that locking up the romance after the balcony scene would make more sense but I think there are still a bunch of people that thinks it was intended by BW. Didn't we have someone who asked PW on Twitter? I can't remember.
Any thoughts?
I don't think that it's a bug. As to why this scene in particular... well, he was ready to "betray himself" and tell you the truth about everything, which is, like, 100 times more powerful and important than simply saying "I love you". It really goes to show how stong his feelings are. This scene is the culmination of their romance, so getting the achievement afterwards makes sense.
Edit: late reply is late 
If you want to. It would be nice to know.
No. I don't want to. I just would have done it for you.
I'm at it. I unfortunately don't have a pre-dragon save, so I must run through the Western Approach first. So... might take a few minutes.
If all this is linked, then that's very calculating by BW... almost a bit ... creepy... (but exciting)
If we were not already leaning towards Sera being Andruil incarnate, my first guess would be that Mythal has maneuvered Hawke into the Abyss in order to "pick up" OGS Andruil.
Which would be double as awesome when Hawke/Andruil kicks down the veil-wall, souvenir in hand, and yells "guess who's back?!"
Besides the idea of all these elves supposedly being gods and popping up out of the woodworks being kind of lame, I really hope one of the gods aren't actually that...
Sera...
I really just want to tell her to stop talking half the time. I find her background in Denerim to be a bit too specific though, compared to Solas who is vague as all hell.
I don't think that it's a bug. As for why this scene in particular... well, he was ready to "betray himself" and tell you the truth about everything, which is, like, 100 times more powerful and important than simply saying "I love you". It really goes to show how stong his feelings are. This scene is the culmination of their romance, so getting the achievement afterwards makes sense. Imo.
Edit: late reply is late
Very true. I should have linked PW's words with this. Thank you for doing it for me It totally makes sense now though it was kinda crual and hilarious at the same time.
I remember that day when PW's interview with NA came out. I was just too shy to reply to the thread by then but damn 
I was sharing the feels with you guys 
If we were not already leaning towards Sera being Andruil incarnate, my first guess would be that Mythal has maneuvered Hawke into the Abyss in order to "pick up" OGS Andruil.
Which would be double as awesome when Hawke/Andruil kicks down the veil-wall, souvenir in hand, and yells "guess who's back?!"
Oh god. If that happens with my crazy blood mage Hawke, Thedas is pretty well and truly screwed.
Besides the idea of all these elves supposedly being gods and popping up out of the woodworks being kind of lame, I really hope one of the gods aren't actually that...
Agreed. From a theorycrafting perspective, I can kind of see the Sera-as-Andruil thing. From a meta perspective, I really hope it isn't the case. I have a love-hate relationship with Sera, but one of the things I consistently like about her is how she keeps the Inquisitor grounded as long as she's around, even if they don't agree. I feel like having her be Andruil, even unknowingly, compromises a lot of the things I actually like about her character.
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