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[vierrae]

And now I just have to post this. It's amazing, look at these thighs!

http://widdershins-w...-Past-506303583

[Elven_Glory]

And now, as promised, my doodles that I drew while taking notes today at school. I don't really consider myself an artist, but I think they're kind of cute.

[WildSky214]

Btw, does anyone has any theories why Solas is so much disapproving joining the Wardens into the Inquisition? I have a feeling he deeply hates them all and he's like: "go, just go (leave and never come back!)". I couldn't think of any good enough reasons. Thoughts?

Well, if you like the theory that the elven pantheon is connected to the old gods/archdemons, this conversation comes to mind:

Solas: The Wardens see themselves as the world's defense against the Blight, do they not?
Blackwall: Yes... why do you sound so skeptical? Doesn't everyone know this?
Solas: When an Archdemon rises, they slay it. What will they do when all the Archdemons are slain? Without Archdemons, there can be no Blights, is that the reasoning?
Blackwall: Right. Where are you going with this?
Solas: Nowhere. I hope they are correct.

I'm with Blackwall. Where's he going with this? It sounds like he knows something.

As for actual reasons for hating the Wardens, there is the possibility that they are possessed. Also, and much less likely, he might be worried that some of the Wardens might be aware of his involvement and rat him out. And for the record, I think there's a 0.1% chance of the being true, its just a thought.

[Rabbitonfire]

Suddenly I want to make a drawing chatroom but it's a weekday.

[Kryllian]

Huh, it seems my Lavellan is the only one, who thought, that Morrigan drinking is not an option. From her perspective it was a rare opportunity to actually do something as a Keeper regarding her people's history. She wouldn't miss this one, Dalish are so touchy about collecting elven long lost knowlege.

I seriously considered going that route, and my Lavellan almost did, but the nature of the sacrifice needed was too vague, and she could never willingly put any of her people (especially Solas cough cough) at risk for the sake of knowledge, especially since Morrigan was willing, and probably better equipped as far as he magic she had studied. My Lavellan would have just died if someone had been hurt because she was selfish.

[Caddius]

*piece randomly clicks into place*

 

Not to drag this up again, but I would bet good money that the disappearance of the Barindur coincides almost exactly with Solas's first failed rebellion... making that particular story completely heartbreaking.  He would have had no choice but to watch helplessly from the Fade as his guided people were massacred.  

 

Do we have any idea where that falls on the timeline?  

5900: The Neromenian tribes split and form four ancient kingdoms: Tevinter, Neromenian, Barindur, and Qarinus.

5990: The entire kingdom of Barindur vanishes. The humans of the day claim the city lost the favor of Dumat. Solas claims it was preserved underneath the volcanic ash.

My bad if this has been answered.

[vierrae]

I seriously considered going that route, and my Lavellan almost did, but the nature of the sacrifice needed was too vague, and she could never willingly put any of her people (especially Solas cough cough) at risk for the sake of knowledge, especially since Morrigan was willing, and probably better equipped as far as he magic she had studied. My Lavellan would have just died if someone had been hurt because she was selfish.

DA series are about sacrifice, all in all, so I don't find this concept too unsettling. Also look at Merril. She was willing to take huge risk dealing with demon just to restore one eluvian. Sure, we can hear some pride speaking, but it was not entirely selfish decision.

[RynJ]

I imagine my Lavellan was also very aware of her position in the world now when it came to the choice drinking or not drinking from the Well. The Inquisition turned into a very powerful and very influential force with her at the head. Mix that with the fact that she's starting to doubt everything she knew about the elven gods, and she really isn't keen on the idea of being a "slave" to one of them and having them possibly control her thoughts and actions. That could wind up not so good, because then Inquisition forces would be at someone else's beck and call whenever they so pleased. There were just too many dangerous variables and too much unknown, even if the knowledge was very tempting.

[Kryllian]

DA series are about sacrifice, all in all, so I don't find this concept too unsettling. Also look at Merril. She was willing to take huge risk dealing with demon just to restore one eluvian. Sure, we can hear some pride speaking, but it was not entirely selfish decision.

I agree it wouldn't be totally selfish, the knowledge gained has huge potential for her people, which is why my Lavellan almost did drink. And she knows the sacrifice they are all willing to take to defeat Corypheus. But she also isn't interested in the power that is supposedly gained from the well, other than how it would help against their enemies. And she is still a bit naive through the whole thing and is pretty trusting of Morrigan, even though others do not. I'm not saying it's the right decision, but she wasn't willing to take the risk if Morrigan was willing to take it. If Morrigan hadn't been there, there'd be no hesitation.

[KaiserShep]

Suddenly I want to make a drawing chatroom but it's a weekday.

Hey I'd be willing to take part in that.

[Caddius]

Theory time!

Dwarves And The Forgotten Ones!

 

*I promise lots of questions remain unanswered, no scientific knowledge was applied to this theory, and there are bound to be multiple inconsistencies.

 

Spoiler

The Dwarven Deities & The Forgotten Ones

 

To begin, I want to reference the following codex entry.

 

The Primeval Thaig

 

Your Majesty,

It's difficult getting a straight answer out of the scavenger. These sods get themselves so blighted they can't think straight, much less keep spit in their mouths. He says, however, that he's gone down into parts of the Deep Roads that are so old that our people forgot them long before the Blight even happened.

He spoke of great statues and temples--temples! He spoke of things that could have only been made of magic and of impossible ruins untouched by darkspawn. He described creatures the likes of which we've never seen.

None of it's possible, of course. I've conferred with the Shaper and he says the Memories date back to the founding of the first thaig--what could have come before that? Yes, we're unable to explore these depths the scavenger spoke of because of the darkspawn, but surely the Memories would speak of such places if they existed.

Yet in this scavenger's belongings, amidst all the filth, there was a single idol. It was clearly of dwarven make, but not resembling any Paragon on record. The idol was dressed in a manner I've never seen. The Shaper of Memories also could not identify it or the substance from which it was made. The thought that the Memories might be wrong... unsettling.

• Excerpt from a report sealed in the Orzammar royal archives by order of King Annalar Geldinblade in 8:48 Blessed.

Link: http://dragonage.wik..._Primeval_Thaig

Now we know basically less than nothing about the Forgotten ones, said to be a subset or cell of Gods that were opposite to the Elvish pantheon. They are widely considered elvish gods, but I think they aren't Elvish at all. (Though, I have another theory connecting the dwarves with the elves but I'll save that for another day)

Above is the codex for the Primeval Thaig we find with Hawke. It speaks of magic and temples and idols, making me think that before all we know about Dwarvish history, there was something else- a whole society that vanished, and that this society that lived in these primeval thaigs had both magic- and worshiped deities.

So, when we think of disappeared dwarven dieties...look at the wording in the codex entry.

• He says, however, that he's gone down into parts of the Deep Roads that are so old that our people forgot them long before the Blight even happened.

• I've conferred with the Shaper and he says the Memories date back to the founding of the first thaig--what could have come before that?

• The thought that the Memories might be wrong... unsettling.

So we have a dwarven (we assume, anyway) thaig so old that the shaperate or wall of memories doesn't even remember- parts of the deep road so old that they are forgotten.

 

The forgotten ones.

 

Where did Fen'harel supposedly lock away the Forgotten ones? The void.

Connecting the void to the dwarves is easy if we look at the first Blight and Caradin.

• The Anvil of the Void was a device used by the dwarves to create golems during the First Blight.

This is where it gets fuzzy, because...no information on the dwarves before the first known memories. It also gets fuzzy because technically you may even want to say possibly the Forgotten Gods and the Old Gods are one in the same- and that these locked in the void gods are what actually got corrupted by the blight.

But there's not enough info there or the info isn't adding up to make any connections like that. Like I said, fuzzy and inconsistant.

I like all of this.

One factoid that may be useful: Beneath the Deep Roads proper, there's older, more primitive Deep Roads. The group in The Calling stumbles across them. Which points toward the dwarves having come from...where? Caves, I guess?

Another is that golems are present in the Primeval Thaig, while 'invented' by Caridin in the middle of the First Blight. He says the ancestors spoke to him in his journal. Perhaps the Forgotten Ones whispered to him of old technology and wonders? 

[Rabbitonfire]

Hey I'd be willing to take part in that.

 Are you sure? I'll drawing nsfw stuff.

[drake2511]

My canon Lavellan is a mage, but her talent showed up really late. She's got the heart of a hunter and a rogue, she's smart, she never wanted to become keeper. She's lazy though, and thinks she is not suited for that role... Other members of her clan thought the same, but the keeper was sure she could do it.
I think I messed up her clan's war table operation, so maybe the keeper was wrong poor girl.

Anyway, that's why she didn't drink from the well. Smartness + laziness.

[Fialka]

I drank from the Well both playthroughs...

 

(spoilered in case people don't give an F about my headcanon )

 

Spoiler

The first one was as Lavellan, because, as she said, it was her heritage. It was actually an interesting turning point in her character. I wasn't all that interested in elves, particularly the Dalish (blasphemy, I know ) and only rolled one to romance Solas. So I played my Lavellan as this outcast with little interest in elven history, because she believed that the Dalish needed to stop pining over the past and comforting themselves with fairy tales about absent gods, and look to the future instead. It was through the events of the game (all those crazy Elven ruins) and her relationship with Solas that she began to really appreciate her people and what they once were (and could be). The temple of Mythal, and the ancient elves who guarded it, where just another part of that. She liked Morrigan and respected her, but wasn't about to let some arrogant human woman take something she felt rightly belonged to the elves (she did offer it to Solas first).

 

I played my human circle mage as... well, let's just say her and Finn from Witch Hunt would have been besties. She wanted to know about ALL THE THINGS. Didn't matter if the magic was dangerous or forbidden or elven or what have you, she wanted to know and understand (even if she knew better than to practice). Solas was literally the mentor of her dreams, and in my headcanon she pestered him whenever he'd let her. She definitely understood that drinking from the Well could have consequences, but she didn't trust Morrigan with it. I like Morrigan, but her behavior in the Temple made her look exactly like the power-hungry vulture Solas accused her of being, and that's how Trevelyan saw her as well. And she doesn't trust her motives one bit.  Again, had Solas wanted it, she would have given that power to him, but as it stood, she figured she could put the Well's power to the best use.

 

Edit for TOP (I love that this was the first result in my Google Image search! ):

Source: Dragon Age QA dude Allan Schumacher (he's got skillz)

[KaiserShep]

 Are you sure? I'll drawing nsfw stuff.

That's never held me back before.

[drake2511]

And now I just have to post this. It's amazing, look at these thighs!

Spoiler

http://widdershins-w...-Past-506303583

*Drools* I need to see Solas in that armor. And I hope Abelas is in the next game.

And now, as promised, my doodles that I drew while taking notes today at school. I don't really consider myself an artist, but I think they're kind of cute.

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Out of likes :/ I'm glad you're sharing this! So cute!

[NightSymphony]

It's Abelas time

 

 

http://widdershins-w...Again-508685917

 

 

http://widdershins-w...-Dawn-508684280

[BoscoBread]

Huh, it seems my Lavellan is the only one, who thought, that Morrigan drinking is not an option. From her perspective it was a rare opportunity to actually do something as a Keeper regarding her people's history. She wouldn't miss this one, Dalish are so touchy about collecting elven long lost knowlege.

 

Lavellan - Didn't

Trevelyan - Did

Personal Headcanon garbage below - I like hearing everybody's reasons.  So fun.

 

Spoiler

For my Lavellan it didn't make sense. Abelas seemed so sad being bound and she treasures her freedom.  They - the guardians -were dead there(not literally but might as well have been) and she was afraid of turning into that.  She didn't believe in the gods, but she believed that ancient magic could make her into a tool of Mythal or at least whatever was left of Mythal's Will.  She stood there for what seemed like hours but then said, 'no.  my life is my own. morrigan it's all yours'.  After however many years with the Inquisition, she didn't view herself as Dalish anymore - at least not just Dalish. She was her own person. She belonged to the people of Thedas and they to her.  So she didn't have much emotion about lost knowledge for her people -- to her it was lost the second the temple sealed and the guardians refused to share it.  After Keeper Deshanna was made a city council member in Wycome and after Mythal, she knew that her people needed to let go of the past and move forward. 

 

My canon Trevelyan did because power and she didn't want Morrigan to have it.  Her and Vivienne have many plans.

[BoscoBread]

It's Abelas time

Spoiler

 

http://widdershins-w...Again-508685917

 

I am like legit in love with this character. I seriously hope he returns.  I think because we know nothing about him and I can just make him however I want him to be.  Would probably break it off with Solas for this dude if given the option. (Sorry/Not Sorry).  Ugh..Babelas. 

[Sah291]

Well, if you like the theory that the elven pantheon is connected to the old gods/archdemons, this conversation comes to mind:I'm with Blackwall. Where's he going with this? It sounds like he knows something.As for actual reasons for hating the Wardens, there is the possibility that they are possessed. Also, and much less likely, he might be worried that some of the Wardens might be aware of his involvement and rat him out. And for the record, I think there's a 0.1% chance of the being true, its just a thought.

That correlation doesn't equal causation. Maybe the blight is causing the archdemons, and not the archdemons causing the blight. So why would killing them solve the problem. What will they do when there are no more left and the blight still spreads, but is now much harder to contain?

It's starting to feel like the Wardens are the Dragon Age Cerberus. They are willing to do whatever it takes no matter the cost, but don't always seem to think through the consequences. And if we know nothing else, Solas learned this lesson the hard way.

[NightSymphony]

I am like legit in love with this character. I seriously hope he returns.  I think because we know nothing about him and I can just make him however I want him to be.  Would probably break it off with Solas for this dude if given the option. (Sorry/Not Sorry).  Ugh..Babelas. 

As much as I love him too..I still love Solas more. Unless Solas is gone for good...  *sniffles*

[Rabbitonfire]

That's never held me back before.

Awesome, It's going to be a draw-anything chat. Give me a few minutes to set it up

 

edit: Let me finish dinner first.

[Sable Rhapsody]

She was her own person. She belonged to the people of Thedas and they to her.  So she didn't have much emotion about lost knowledge for her people -- to her it was lost the second the temple sealed and the guardians refused to share it.  After Keeper Deshanna was made a city council member in Wycome and after Mythal, she knew that her people needed to let go of the past and move forward. 

 

That's pretty much exactly why my Lavellan didn't drink either.  On a meta level, part of it was me wanting her to be a relatively normal person compared to my other PCs.  Aside from the Anchor (which she got through fate or sheer dumb luck depending on your perspective), she has no special powers.

[hybelmygg]

I got an ask on tumblr telling me I should post these gifs I made of Solas here, so uh, here you go, I guess? D;

 

[ByTheCode]

So I have a question about the romance. I just did the Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts quest, and at the end, it didn't give me the option to dance with Solas. He hasn't kissed my Quizzie yet either. What gives? Can I still romance him?