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[Eivuwan]

It would be interesting if it was originally the case that everyone was blighted. That's why everything sung the same in the beginning. Perhaps the Archdemons and darkspawn were only trying to return things to the way they were. That's also why only blighted creatures can hear the Old Gods sing.

[CapricornSun]

Here's a song that's appropriate for Solavellan post-breakup. Most probably after the defeat of Cory and Solas leaves. 

 

EDIT: Ugh! This is definitely my Tala Lavellan's endgame song. TT___TT

 

 

Lyrics:

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"I'm Kissing You"
 

Pride can stand
A thousand Trials
The strong will never fall
But watching stars without You
My soul cried
Heaving hard is full of pain
Oh, oh, the aching

'Cos I'm kissing you, oh
I'm kissing you

Touch me deep
Pure and true
Gift to me forever

'Cos I'm kissing you, oh
I'm kissing you

Yeah hey
Yeah

Where are you now?
Where are you now?

'Cos I'm kissing you
I'm kissing you, ohh

[ZerebusPrime]

That's also why only blighted creatures can hear the Old Gods sing.

 

Western Approach. Shimmerstone Mine, near a quarry you can claim in the south.  It's vibrating when you claim it.  Warden documents indicate that there is actual, physical singing from an Old God deep under the pit, but all attempts to reach it have failed due to tunnel collapses.

 

No doubt this is why the Wardens are stationed in the Western Approach in numbers.

 

The only point I'm making is that as one gets close to it, the song becomes a real, physical tune that anyone can hear.  The psychic component may or may not be limited to the Blighted; I suspect the priests of ancient Tevinter could hear the songs just fine.

[Missy_MI]

I always play this song when I'm roaming around the map thinking my Lavellan is aimlessly searching for Solas, hoping she would eventually bump into him while she continues being the inquisitor.

 

Wow, that cover is not what I expected (I remember the fast version), but it's absolutely beautiful! I can't for the life of me find anywhere to buy it (you can just download it directly), so I bought the artist's EP on iTunes instead. Dark Star is pretty good too actually.

 

Also: the lyrics seem so much more sad in the slowed down version. You listen to this searching for Solas? Ouch! Though I can't say I blame you. I traveled back to the Exalted Plains and visited the little shrine to Fen'Harel just to see if anything would happen. Nothing did of course.

[mythlover20]

I agree! And after re-watching Flemeth's conversation with Hawke in DA2, I'm now terrified that I made the wrong choice by not making Hawke stay in the Fade. "It is only when you fall that you learn whether you can fly." Hm....

 

 

Couple of other interesting things:

Hawke: Why did you ask me to bring you here?

Flemeth: Because I had an appointment to keep. And because I did not want to be followed. You smuggled me here quite nicely.

 

It's been awhile since I played DA2, do we ever find out what Flemeth's appointment was?

 

And later she says: "I am but a fragment, cast adrift from the whole."

I assumed the piece of Mythal inside Flemeth was the only spark remaining of god's essence. Is it possible the rest of Mythal is somewhere else? Or is she referring to something different?

I always assumed that, since this is technically only a year after she meets the Wardens in DA:O, that her "appointment" was her confrontation with the Warden when Morrigan asks them to kill Flemeth for her grimiore. Grimoire. How the hell do you spell that?

Anyway: HI EVERYBODY! (Cue missing Doctor Nick gif).

How have you all been? I've actually been playing the game so I have too many pages to ever be able to read (300 since I was last here? I haven't even been gone a week! )

Vaguely-thread-topic-connected question: Do you think the comp BioWare is running at the moment (forget the name) is a one-off thing or if they will do another one. I'm trying to decide between writing my Wolf Hunt fic, or doing my Elvhenan Pantheon series of paintings instead. (Also, am I really the only one bothered by how limited the pantheon is?)

[Caddius]

Okay. Bearing in mind that I haven't read The Masked Empire (yet), and only know what I know from wikis...

Imshael reacts with fear to Felassan, doesn't he? And they seem familiar with each other. Doesn't make sense for some random hobo Dalish, but it would certainly make sense for an old priest of the Creators who were probably more than capable of throwing down with demons, Harry Dresden style. Or a newer born elf that grew up among Sentinels and has gone on scouting expeditions to see how the world is doing. I almost want to take this as evidence that the Veil was up for sometime in Ancient Arlathan, but that's definitely premature on my part.

(Note: Felassan/Dresden cross-over fan-fic needs to happen.)

Imshael is convinced to leave Mihris by Felassan, who tells him 'something bigger is coming to Thedas'. Imshael's essence then heads through an Eluvian. Is that supposed to have been Corypheus? I doubt it. A demon probably wouldn't be impressed with the evolution of the South's religion and society in general that Inquisition covers.

Something like Falon'din, or the Veil being messed with, though. That's bigger.

[madrar]

Cole also has a comment relating to dwarves. The 'You sell it," dialogue, specifically. He doesn't name the Titans, but it's fair to say it's probably what's calling out to the dwarves but can't be heard.

 

My take on this was as a reference to the Stone.  It's still "calling out to the blood that walks"- (dwarves as red/white blood cells) -they just can't hear it anymore.  Or at least, they can't tap in the way they used to.  The dwarves literally sell their connection to it by mining lyrium: what modern dwarves call "Stone sense" is the faintest echo of what it would be (what their electromagnetic charge would be) if they were passing through tunnels lined with veins of raw lyrium, as would once have been the case.  They've lost most of their charge- their connection- and thus their original purpose.  

 

Whether you're on board with that interpretation or not, figuring out how that happened seems like a pretty critical question.  Like you mentioned before, the change doesn't feel gradual.  It's like overnight the dwarves lose their entire known history and Pantheon, the "First Thaig" is formed, and their society is suddenly fundamentally changed, with aims that don't seem to entirely line up with what they were crafted to be.  

 

My personal hunch is that it's directly related to June's role in the red lyrium Cold War and the crafting of Elgar'nan's idol in the primeval thaig, but I need a much more solid grasp on the timeline before I can start spinning theory.  

[Colonelkillabee]

You know, that conversation between hawke and flemeth just makes it even more painfully clear that Hawke was supposed to be the Inquisitor.

[Colonelkillabee]

Also, watching her again in DA 2, knowing what she is, it just makes her feel even more badass. Before, I thought her outfit was sooo overdone, but now? LOL I'd expect nothing less. It's awesome.

[mythlover20]

Also, watching her again in DA 2, knowing what she is, it just makes her feel even more badass. Before, I thought her outfit was sooo overdone, but now? LOL I'd expect nothing less. It's awesome.

If I was still dancing competitively I'd make a latin costume out of that armour. It is bloody awesome.

I also would have made one based on Thane, which would have looked even better considering the "scales" that would have made up the neck-piece that would have trailed down the spine like dragon spines.

Damn now I wish I was still dancing competitively again just so I could make these dresses. :/

[mythlover20]

Okay, I need to know: Do I have to read the books? I haven't done that yet (mostly because of my prejudice against books written by game writers. All the ones I have read have been... substandard. As in a lot of fanfiction is written better. My theory for that was because they spent so long writing for games they forgot how to write for novels and weren't given enough time to refamiliarise themselves with the tenets of fiction-writing and editing).

Am I missing out on a lot of lore if I don't read them? Are they good?

And who are these "Titans" I keep seeing pop up? I've only played the games so I have no idea who they are.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Okay, I need to know: Do I have to read the books? I haven't done that yet (mostly because of my prejudice against books written by game writers. All the ones I have read have been... substandard. As in a lot of fanfiction is written better. My theory for that was because they spent so long writing for games they forgot how to write for novels and weren't given enough time to refamiliarise themselves with the tenets of fiction-writing and editing).

Am I missing out on a lot of lore if I don't read them? Are they good?

 

I liked both Asunder and Masked Empire; I liked Asunder's cast of characters much better, but the plotting and pacing were a bit more haphazard than Masked Empire.  IMO if you only read one, make it Masked Empire.  Everything that happens in Orlais and especially at Halamshiral makes so much more sense and has much better context if you actually know who Celene, Briala, and Gaspard are and what they're about before you march into the ball.

 

I didn't read any of the earlier DA books, but IMO the ones that precede Inquisition provide necessary context.  Which I both like and don't like.  On one hand, it's nice to have the books tie in so closely to the characters and events in the game.  On the other hand, I don't like the idea that people *have* to read the books in order to get the most out of the game.

[ShallowlLife9871]

does anyone know WHEN Hawke and co find Cornflakes?  in the official DA timeline? I think it's sometime in the third act... but I'm not sure

 

 and My sister has told me of an interesting theory that hinges on this question. 

She thinks that at some point Fen'Harel manged to pocess either Larius or Janika [ depending on choices] and somehow manged to find Bianca and help her with the red lyrim. and give Cornflakes the Foci.. but due to the taint, and his weakend state [ haveing just awoken] had to leave the body and ether form the identity or pocess the body of Solas...

 

while I like this theroy, It all depends on the WHEN legacy acctully happend...so .. hence my question

[Valeria Lavellan]

Wow, that cover is not what I expected (I remember the fast version), but it's absolutely beautiful! I can't for the life of me find anywhere to buy it (you can just download it directly), so I bought the artist's EP on iTunes instead. Dark Star is pretty good too actually.

 

Also: the lyrics seem so much more sad in the slowed down version. You listen to this searching for Solas? Ouch! Though I can't say I blame you. I traveled back to the Exalted Plains and visited the little shrine to Fen'Harel just to see if anything would happen. Nothing did of course.

My lavellan went from curious 

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To distracted while talking to Cassandra after her vallaslin was removed

 

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[dragondreamer]

does anyone know WHEN Hawke and co find Cornflakes?  in the official DA timeline? I think it's sometime in the third act... but I'm not sure

 

 and My sister has told me of an interesting theory that hinges on this question. 

She thinks that at some point Fen'Harel manged to pocess either Larius or Janika [ depending on choices] and somehow manged to find Bianca and help her with the red lyrim. and give Cornflakes the Foci.. but due to the taint, and his weakend state [ haveing just awoken] had to leave the body and ether form the identity or pocess the body of Solas...

 

while I like this theroy, It all depends on the WHEN legacy acctully happend...so .. hence my question

 

I prefer to play Legacy in the Second Act, after Fenris walks out on Hawke after they sleep together.  The reason, is because they have some banter there where Hawke mentions they haven't spoken since then, and Fenris is clearly glad that Hawke still wants to have anything to do with him.  So I can't imagine it's been very long.

[SeaBassChen]

You guys! There's an Abelas thread in these forums, so go talk about him over there. Please, WE NEED MORE ACTIVITY! 

http://forum.bioware...hread-spoilers/

 

 

It's Abelas time

 

 

http://widdershins-w...Again-508685917

 

 

http://widdershins-w...-Dawn-508684280

[SolaceInSolas]

I asked this question on Tumblr, and I'll ask it one here too. I see people complaining about the PJs the Inquisitor wears at Skyhold. Am I the only one who doesn't mind them? I mean, when I'm hanging out at home, I basically live in a onesie. Who wouldn't wanna hop in some PJs after wearing armor and weapons all day?

[SolaceInSolas]

I like them on humans and elves, though especially elves. (My Lavellan has pale green eyes, so she's rocking the light green jammies.)

 

I only think they look out-of-place on dwarves and Qunari because... well, they're more stout and hardy races.

I see your point......but everybody should be able to be comfy after battle, no matter their bulkiness! Qunari and dwarves need coziness too.

 

Edit: Thanks!

[SolaceInSolas]

Actually, that's precisely my problem. They don't look comfy to me. (And I'm really finicky about physical comfort.)

 

These jammies look like they were designed for streamlined bodies in mind. Since dwarves and Qunari have more bulk and curves, it looks like the buttons are stretched so tight they're close to popping, and the curves of their body look like they're straining against the fabric in a bad way. I look at them and feel uncomfortable on their hehalf.

 

It could just be me though. 

 

By the way, I still love your gif. 

You may be right. Who knows? XD I just think it's a bit silly when I see butthurt kids on tumblr complaining that Bioware fixed glitches, but didn't fix the pajama problem, GTFO.

Thanks!! I'm so glad you liked it....I was just gonna ask the question, but then decided to take thirty minutes to make that silliness. XD

[mythlover20]

I liked both Asunder and Masked Empire; I liked Asunder's cast of characters much better, but the plotting and pacing were a bit more haphazard than Masked Empire.  IMO if you only read one, make it Masked Empire.  Everything that happens in Orlais and especially at Halamshiral makes so much more sense and has much better context if you actually know who Celene, Briala, and Gaspard are and what they're about before you march into the ball.

 

I didn't read any of the earlier DA books, but IMO the ones that precede Inquisition provide necessary context.  Which I both like and don't like.  On one hand, it's nice to have the books tie in so closely to the characters and events in the game.  On the other hand, I don't like the idea that people *have* to read the books in order to get the most out of the game.

Oh, yes, I really hate that too. Adding to the lore is one thing, but adding key concepts and details? No, that is just wrong.

Still wondering who the Titans are. Are they anything like the Greek Titans? If so, how do they fit into the DA 'verse?

 

I asked this question on Tumblr, and I'll ask it one here too. I see people complaining about the PJs the Inquisitor wears at Skyhold. Am I the only one who doesn't mind them? I mean, when I'm hanging out at home, I basically live in a onesie. Who wouldn't wanna hop in some PJs after wearing armor and weapons all day?

I do quite like them, but I also love the various texture meshes. I love the top especially. I would love to make a jacket out of it.

But the thing is: they don't look like pajamas to me. They look like... business wear. Like the Thedas equivalent of the pencil skirt, blouse, jacket, and heels. Sometimes, especially with my human Quiz, I just wanted to be able to put on a dress.

Not one of the Ferelden dresses, mind. Those look bloody awful.

PS LOVE your gif.

[ByTheCode]

I FINALLY KISSED SOLAS!

 

I realized why I had never done it. I never looked through the icons for the options so I never saw the heart option. Now I get to romance my bald baby. 

 

Though I did get the end of the romance spoiled because some people don't use spoiler tags here. -.-

[SolaceInSolas]

I do quite like them, but I also love the various texture meshes. I love the top especially. I would love to make a jacket out of it.

But the thing is: they don't look like pajamas to me. They look like... business wear. Like the Thedas equivalent of the pencil skirt, blouse, jacket, and heels. Sometimes, especially with my human Quiz, I just wanted to be able to put on a dress.

Not one of the Ferelden dresses, mind. Those look bloody awful.

PS LOVE your gif.

It would be neat if you did have the option to change, kind of like how you can change in Mass Effect, though I don't mind the pjs/businesssuit/whatever.

One thing that would have been neat is if, like in ME, you could have had a picture...or um, a painting of your romance choice beside your bed. 8D

Yay! Thanks!

Welp, Im off to bed! Goodnight, wolf pack!