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[mythlover20]

It would be neat if you did have the option to change, kind of like how you can change in Mass Effect, though I don't mind the pjs/businesssuit/whatever.

One thing that would have been neat is if, like in ME, you could have had a picture...or um, a painting of your romance choice beside your bed. 8D

Yay! Thanks!

Welp, Im off to bed! Goodnight, wolf pack!

Lol, a painting of Solas in the room? Who would paint it? Solas? Hmm... I wonder how he would depict himself? Preferably not at all, probably, but we all know how Lavellan can be. ^^

Maybe it's something else the modders can work on. That would be cool. ^^

Good night!

[Elven_Glory]

*snip*

Out of likes :/ I'm glad you're sharing this! So cute!

D'aww thank you. It started out with the "indominable focus" bit, which was intended to help me remind myself to pay attention, but then it backfired because Solas inevitably followed, and I just can't pay attention to anything else when he's around. I hear he has that effect on people. Darn that snarky faced elf. I'll post more as they occur if you like.

[Caddius]

My take on this was as a reference to the Stone.  It's still "calling out to the blood that walks"- (dwarves as red/white blood cells) -they just can't hear it anymore.  Or at least, they can't tap in the way they used to.  The dwarves literally sell their connection to it by mining lyrium: what modern dwarves call "Stone sense" is the faintest echo of what it would be (what their electromagnetic charge would be) if they were passing through tunnels lined with veins of raw lyrium, as would once have been the case.  They've lost most of their charge- their connection- and thus their original purpose.  

 

Whether you're on board with that interpretation or not, figuring out how that happened seems like a pretty critical question.  Like you mentioned before, the change doesn't feel gradual.  It's like overnight the dwarves lose their entire known history and Pantheon, the "First Thaig" is formed, and their society is suddenly fundamentally changed, with aims that don't seem to entirely line up with what they were crafted to be.  

 

My personal hunch is that it's directly related to June's role in the red lyrium Cold War and the crafting of Elgar'nan's idol in the primeval thaig, but I need a much more solid grasp on the timeline before I can start spinning theory.  

I think our take on this is the same, it's just that I'm guessing that 'the Stone' is a phantom belief of what used to be, namely the Titans. A hive-mind god, as others have theorized more eloquently.

EDIT:

As for the books.

As said, Asunder and The Masked Empire tie in very well to Inquisition, and from everything I've heard, are very well-written.

The Calling is excellent, giving you an early view of the Architect, as well as adventures with young Duncan and Maric together, which is all kinds of wonderful. (The other Wardens, for the most part, are lovely as well.)

The Stolen Throne suffers from 'some' of the video game novel problems, as well as normal novel problems. Too many adverbs thrown willy-nilly, the pacing is a bit off, which is to be expected, considering it covers most of Maric and Loghain's time together in the Rebellion. It's well worth it for the characterization, however. Most people I know that despised Loghain beforehand ended up liking him even in Origins, which has confused them to no end.

Last Flight is bleak, and the characters aren't exactly lovable like in most of the books. They're...pitiable, I guess is the word. They're too burned out for witty banter most of the time, and the whole Fourth Blight is just awful. But it's well-written, and it puts the Wardens in a new perspective. Plus, griffons. Griffons in action.   

[laurelinvanyar]

Just finished my 3rd solasmance playthrough, and every time I go through the breakup, I get a little less optimistic about their chances of even a slightly happy ending. I guess I'm on Team-Hopes-For-The-Best-But-Expects-The-Worst.

[Kittn]

I always play this song when I'm roaming around the map thinking my Lavellan is aimlessly searching for Solas, hoping she would eventually bump into him while she continues being the inquisitor.

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Sharing Lavellan endgame songs? I'm game. This one is Tiger Festival's without a doubt.




The Hissing Wastes has always been my favorite map. I really dig the RDR feels I get from it. And as far as we know, Solas was heading west, so that's where she'll go. This is the perfect soundtrack to accompany Tiger Festival as she spurs her horse through the endless desert, determined to find her heart.

With the second verse in particular, I can imagine it applying to how Tiger tries to keep up with inquisition duties and paperwork after Cory's defeat. But she's been sleeping poorly without Solas's body beside her. Everything feels empty and wrong. Nothing will make sense again until she sets out on his trail. One can deny their heart only so long.

I don't know if there's coffee in Thedas though...

Lyrics:

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And now I know the only compass that I need
Is the one that leads back to you
And I know the only compass that I need
Is the one that leads back to you

And the burning blisters on my feet will call
To hold me as im close to fall
Away from the home of your arms I stray
Off the radar and into harms way

Now I know the only compass that I need
Is the one that leads back to you

Yea coffee wakes the hand again
Coaxing letters from the pen
But words just sit like empty scribbles
Such empty caffeinated riddles

Now I know the only compass that I need
Is the one that leads back to you

Now I know the only compass that I need
Is the one that leads back to you

[LliiraAnna]

 

http://miscteatime.t...excuse-for-this

 

[Sable Rhapsody]

I had spirit!Cole, and I thought of this as the endgame song for him trying to help Lavellan after Solas leaves.  He sticks around because for the first time, the Inquisitor who shouldered so many burdens needs him 

 

 

Lyrics:

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Laying alone with the history that made you
Cold and uncertain inside
Well careful now, deep breath
The water's still rising
But your silver linings inside

When you
You feel like you're breaking down
And ya, your body's just giving in
And ya, you can't go on broken like this
Any longer

(chorus)Close your eyes
Don't you cry
Let the sorrow within you subside
Don't despair
Have no fear
Give your way to me when you hear
This lullaby [Lullaby]

You say all seems so wrong with the life that you're living
You're searching for some reason why
You're so scared to trust
You're feeling unworthy
Aching for comfort tonight

When your heart's too sore to beat
And ya, you fear it might never heal
And ya, you feel not even beggers want you
I do

(chorus)

Don't you cry
Let the darkness within you feel alive
Don't despair
Have no fear
You'll find comfort in me like a child
This lullaby [Lullaby]

This lullaby [Lullaby]

Don't you cry

This lullaby [Lullaby]

[Wedger]

does anyone know WHEN Hawke and co find Cornflakes?  in the official DA timeline? I think it's sometime in the third act... but I'm not sure

 

 and My sister has told me of an interesting theory that hinges on this question. 

She thinks that at some point Fen'Harel manged to pocess either Larius or Janika [ depending on choices] and somehow manged to find Bianca and help her with the red lyrim. and give Cornflakes the Foci.. but due to the taint, and his weakend state [ haveing just awoken] had to leave the body and ether form the identity or pocess the body of Solas...

 

while I like this theroy, It all depends on the WHEN legacy acctully happend...so .. hence my question

http://www.dragonage..._US/timeline?i=

 

Fifth Blight begins in 829 and Hawk attempts to destroy Cory in 830 (same year Quanri shipwreck in Kirkwell, the fifth Blight ends, and the Deep Roads expedition happens/lyrium idol recovered)  I think 830 is Dragon Age:30

 

Larius/Janeka is possessed by Cory....

 

An interesting speculation revolves around the "Warm Orb" in the Legacy DLC.  It is in a chest labeled "The Great Ones Key."  It is theorized that this may be Solas' Orb, which is used to start a fight with one of the best Boss Battles in the DA games, Malvernis.  The thought is that this woke up Solas.   I don't buy this theory myself.  just find it ... interesting.

[Little Mama]

 

Fenedhis lasa is a curse but the first phrase "Ar dirthan'as ir elgara, ma'sula e'var vhenan" is unknown.

I'm not really sure about the first part "Ar dirthan'as ir elgara", it's something about knowledge and spirits but I haven't seen the 'as suffix before. My best guess is that it's something along the lines of "I have gained much knowledge [of our language] from spirits."

"ma'sula e'var vhenan" probably either means something like "listen with your elven blood" or "I speak through/from the heart of our people."

 

 

Thank you.  Wish someone would translate that other part too.   

 

Btw, does anyone has any theories why Solas is so much disapproving joining the Wardens into the Inquisition? I have a feeling he deeply hates them all and he's like: "go, just go (leave and never come back!)". I couldn't think of any good enough reasons. Thoughts?

 

He calls them a relic, but somehow I think it has something to do with the blight. That they want to end them. They are playing with things they in fact don't really know anything about. Just because the Chantry  says that the blights will end when all old Gods are slain, doesn't mean that they are right. They're likely out sailing/speaking noncense as usuall.

Solas probably knowns what will really happen if they succeed. _{Probably something terrible..}

 

They also seem very easy to corrupt. If it takes just fear to turn them from heroes to monsters, then they are a big danger to have around. I mean they are built up by great warriors/an army.    

 

Ord maybe it is that they are killing of the Old Gods. If they somehow are connected with Solas (friends,family etc) then I'd also be rather pissed at people for killing them if I were in his shoes. 

 

_{BTW: I've read through some of the post from yesterday but far from all so forgive me if I repaet something someone else has said}

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In regards for the pjs, I neither like no dislike the original ones, I just think they are too 'in-between'. They are neither something 'formal', nor something 'armor' like.

You're the leader of a huge mission (to save the world), and you have to work with dignitaries and people from all sociaties. . You are the face that people judge the 'order' from. As Viv puts it 'you need to be reprecentable'. 

On the other hand you can be attacked at any given moment, so you need to be ready.

 

Point line; you can't run around all day in a pj.

And, too boot, they don't even look that comfortable and has to much bling/buttons. Especially for an elf. 

 

 

An interesting speculation revolves around the "Warm Orb" in the Legacy DLC.  It is in a chest labeled "The Great Ones Key."  It is theorized that this may be Solas' Orb, which is used to start a fight with one of the best Boss Battles in the DA games, Malvernis.  The thought is that this woke up Solas.   I don't buy this theory myself.  just find it ... interesting.

 

 

I find very interesting. Didn't know that. 

[Caddius]

The timeline in the 'Explore the Map!' part of the site is weird. 

Basically, using the in-game dating system:

Legacy DLC can be played 9:31-9:37 Dragon.

The codex entry about Fen'harel awakening is found in the Black Emporium in the beginning of Act III. Since the last time the player visited was in 9:34, we can say that Solas woke up 9:34-9:37 Dragon. Assuming the Emergent Compendium doesn't have a backlog of a few years.

The main site timeline, while it places Legacy's events in 9:30, has the actual wording of 'History is unclear as to when exactly these events occurred.'

I would have preferred Legacy to be locked in to Act II or III, to be honest. Hawke and company taking down Corypheus before the Deep Roads is a rather laughable idea. (Though honestly they probably still would have pulled it off. Crazy bastards.)

The Warm Orb involved with Malvernis's quest is very interesting. It'd have been cool to find out that for once when we released 'an ancient horror', it was this nice elf man who becomes a party member and was just a bit grumpy at being awoken.

But Malvernis was apparently a pestilent demon-like creature that wreaked great havoc on the dwarves before they managed to seal it on the surface where it couldn't pollute the Stone, which sounds a lot more literal than the usual 'disgracing his ancestors' put-down. I'd say red lyrium, but the fact a Paragon set up the system, and the founding of Paragons is recorded in the Memories makes me doubt it.

[CapricornSun]

Another Final Fantasy song to share. This time, more related to Solas. I imagine Lavellan has so many questions going through her mind about him - why he acts and thinks the way he does and such.

 

 

Ayaka - Why (English) Lyrics

 

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Your inner eye has clouded over so much that it's impossible for you to see.
Does any emotion still reside within the depths of your heart?

Having the entire world at your fingertips,
Is that what you consider happiness?

Why? Why do look up into the lonely heavens?
Why? Can't you laugh a little?*
I understand this character of yours -
This disposition that is incapable of putting anything into words.

What was it that came to be in your sequestered past?
These eyes of yours, they refuse to meet the world.**

All alone with only the lonely night to cradle you,
Is this the warmth that you have come to know?

Why? Why are you so concerned with the way you look?
Why? Can you not open up your heart a little?
You've been taxed by this heavy burden for so long,
It's time that you learn to accept yourself.
Have more faith in yourself...

It is those who are free that are stumbling...
It is those who are free that are insecure...

Why? Why do you look up at the lonely sky?
Why? Can you not laugh, even slightly?
I can appreciate
This reticent character of yours.
You only have to try to believe...

Why... ?

[LliiraAnna]

He calls them a relic, but somehow I think it has something to do with the blight. That they want to end them. They are playing with things they in fact don't really know anything about. Just because the Chantry  says that the blights will end when all old Gods are slain, doesn't mean that they are right. They're likely out sailing/speaking noncense as usuall.

Solas probably knowns what will really happen if they succeed. _{Probably something terrible..}

 

They also seem very easy to corrupt. If it takes just fear to turn them from heroes to monsters, then they are a big danger to have around. I mean they are built up by great warriors/an army.    

 

Ord maybe it is that they are killing of the Old Gods. If they somehow are connected with Solas (friends,family etc) then I'd also be rather pissed at people for killing them if I were in his shoes. 

 

_{BTW: I've read through some of the post from yesterday but far from all so forgive me if I repaet something someone else has said}

My best guess is that without Old Gods to keep them busy in the Deep Roads, Darkspawn will start an endless Blight - since they won't have any reason to stay underground anymore (whether they'll go crazy without their Song is debatable). It possibly has something to do with the Old Gods themselves as well (as you said).

[Little Mama]

@Faerunner

 

Beautiful and well fitting lyrics, I agree. To bad on the quality of the video 

 

 

My best guess is that without Old Gods to keep them busy in the Deep Roads, Darkspawn will start an endless Blight - since they won't have any reason to stay underground anymore (whether they'll go crazy without their Song is debatable). It possibly has something to do with the Old Gods themselves as well (as you said).

 

 

This makes me wonder about the architect, what he really is. He claims he was born unique among his kind, but is he in truth realy like Corry, a magister of old that has became blighted?  

[LliiraAnna]

As for the endgame songs... I've already posted this one before, but I can't think of a more fitting one right now.

 

 

Lyrics:

 

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In this world you tried

Not leaving me alone behind.

There's no other way.

I prayed to the gods let him stay.

The memories ease the pain inside,

Now I know why.

 

[Chorus:]

All of my memories keep you near.

In silent moments imagine you here.

All of my memories keep you near.

Your silent whispers, silent tears.

 

Made me promise I'd try

To find my way back in this life.

I hope there is a way

To give me a sign you're ok.

Reminds me again it's worth it all

So I can go on.

 

[Chorus:]

All of my memories keep you near.

In silent moments imagine you here.

All of my memories keep you near.

Your silent whispers, silent tears.

 

Together in all these memories

I see your smile.

All the memories I hold dear.

Darling, you know I will love you

Until the end of time.

 

[Chorus:]

All of my memories keep you near.

In silent moments imagine you here.

All of my memories keep you near.

Your silent whispers, silent tears.

 

All of my memories....

[Wedger]

 I'd say red lyrium, but the fact a Paragon set up the system, and the founding of Paragons is recorded in the Memories makes me doubt it.

 i don't buy the Warm Orb/Solas Orb theory either.  It doesn't add up.

 

Well, unless one believes Solas has woken more than a few times to cause rebellion and change.  Which makes my head hurt to think on, so I won't.  

 

I didn't think the theory was that Malvernis was Solas, just that freeing/beating him woke Solas.

[Elven_Glory]

My phone is about to die, but...Since we are sharing songs, this is my wolf hunt DLC song. Solas singing to/about Lavellan.


Especially
"Oh yeah we meet again
It's like we never left.
Time inbetween was just a dream.
Did we leave this place?"

Edit to say I'm totally planning on making a fan tribute video to this song.

[Little Mama]

@LliiraAnna

Within Temptation is one of my favorites. I also feel it fits.   

 

And since we are sharing music for Solas/Lavellan again.

 

First time I heard this one _{(many, many, many yeras ago)} was in a video about wolfs for animal planet. Always have associated it with that ever since. Find it most fitting for our _(mine) dear Solas...

 

[Sable Rhapsody]

This makes me wonder about the architect, what he really is. He claims he was born unique among his kind, but is he in truth realy like Corry, a magister of old that has became blighted?  

 

It's possible that he simply doesn't remember.  Corypheus was pretty muddled when he first woke up, and I always got the (vague) impression that he was the one who spearheaded the attempt on the Golden City, which would make him the magisters' leader and most powerful member.  Maybe he was the only one who held onto his old identity; if there are others out there, they would be more like the Architect--self-aware and independent of the Archdemons, but without their memories?

[ByTheCode]

Solas's excitement about the Fade in Here Lies The Abyss is adorable. Ugh. Stop.

[Meer]

There's a Yoko Kanno composition that always struck me as very Solas x Lavellan as well: The Garden of Everything.



It's a mixture of Japanese and English, but it all suits them beautifully. For instance, here's what the Japanese bits translate to:

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"My song will now ride the wind 
Back to you, so far, far away 
One day, the sky will connect as one 
And I'll be able to cross it, back to you."

[LliiraAnna]

It's possible that he simply doesn't remember.  Corypheus was pretty muddled when he first woke up, and I always got the (vague) impression that he was the one who spearheaded the attempt on the Golden City, which would make him the magisters' leader and most powerful member.  Maybe he was the only one who held onto his old identity; if there are others out there, they would be more like the Architect--self-aware and independent of the Archdemons, but without their memories?

Here's an interesting codex entry:

 

"The journal, penned by an unknown writer, appears to be quite old, with many of its pages damaged by water and dust. The entries that can be read all appear to be about twenty years old:

 

We finally found Amuk alive in that passage. Still can't believe it. The only reason I didn't stop digging is because he had the key to the cache - but, after two weeks, I was expecting to find it on his corpse. What story does he come up with? That he was found by a darkspawn, polite as you please, who fed him and gave him water and evidently chatted with him about surfacers. I don't know what Amuk is thinking, coming up with a story like that, but he swore by the Stone it was all the truth. Crazy as it sounds, I know Amuk, and he's got the imagination of a dull hammer. Why would he make something like that up?

 

Reminds me of a story my grandsire used to tell, about something his grandsire did. Said he once came upon a group of three darkspawn in the Deeper Roads, each twice the size of any Dwarf - bigger than Humans, even - and dressed up like kings. He watched from the shadows and said they talked, like people, about things he couldn't understand. A city gone black, and they blamed each other for things but could barely remember for what. My Mam was like that: never remembered the slight, just that she was angry. Story goes they attacked each other, and one ran off while the second choked the third to death and then ate him.

 

Don't know about Darkspawn having talking kings, never mind polite ones that give you food and tea, but maybe Amuk met one of them. There's strange things in the Deeper Roads, after all, things the Shapers can't even recall. As if smuggling wasn't dangerous enough."

[DrTeatime]

Endgame songs eh? I thought this fit my Lavellan quite nicely after the breakup, she isn't feeling like the nicest person

[Caddius]

 

Here's an interesting codex entry:

 

 

 

We finally found Amuk alive in that passage. Still can't believe it. The only reason I didn't stop digging is because he had the key to the cache - but, after two weeks, I was expecting to find it on his corpse. What story does he come up with? That he was found by a darkspawn, polite as you please, who fed him and gave him water and evidently chatted with him about surfacers. I don't know what Amuk is thinking, coming up with a story like that, but he swore by the Stone it was all the truth. Crazy as it sounds, I know Amuk, and he's got the imagination of a dull hammer. Why would he make something like that up?

 

Reminds me of a story my grandsire used to tell, about something his grandsire did. Said he once came upon a group of three darkspawn in the Deeper Roads, each twice the size of any Dwarf - bigger than Humans, even - and dressed up like kings. He watched from the shadows and said they talked, like people, about things he couldn't understand. A city gone black, and they blamed each other for things but could barely remember for what. My Mam was like that: never remembered the slight, just that she was angry. Story goes they attacked each other, and one ran off while the second choked the third to death and then ate him.

 

Don't know about Darkspawn having talking kings, never mind polite ones that give you food and tea, but maybe Amuk met one of them. There's strange things in the Deeper Roads, after all, things the Shapers can't even recall. As if smuggling wasn't dangerous enough.

 

 

 

Here's an interesting codex entry:

 

 

 

We finally found Amuk alive in that passage. Still can't believe it. The only reason I didn't stop digging is because he had the key to the cache - but, after two weeks, I was expecting to find it on his corpse. What story does he come up with? That he was found by a darkspawn, polite as you please, who fed him and gave him water and evidently chatted with him about surfacers. I don't know what Amuk is thinking, coming up with a story like that, but he swore by the Stone it was all the truth. Crazy as it sounds, I know Amuk, and he's got the imagination of a dull hammer. Why would he make something like that up?

 

Reminds me of a story my grandsire used to tell, about something his grandsire did. Said he once came upon a group of three darkspawn in the Deeper Roads, each twice the size of any Dwarf - bigger than Humans, even - and dressed up like kings. He watched from the shadows and said they talked, like people, about things he couldn't understand. A city gone black, and they blamed each other for things but could barely remember for what. My Mam was like that: never remembered the slight, just that she was angry. Story goes they attacked each other, and one ran off while the second choked the third to death and then ate him.

 

Don't know about Darkspawn having talking kings, never mind polite ones that give you food and tea, but maybe Amuk met one of them. There's strange things in the Deeper Roads, after all, things the Shapers can't even recall. As if smuggling wasn't dangerous enough.

 

From the sounds of the Grey Warden reports, Corypheus was confused but controlling sections of the dispersed horde in the decade following Dumat's death. They also mention encountering intelligent mage darkspawn like him in the plural.

Corypheus was just the one they managed to catch.

It's very curious that Corypheus only seems to get a grip on his **** after he's unsealed. He wasn't even aware that he was playing Derelict Reaper with the Wardens. He seems to have vague memories of 'a thousand years in the dark, confused, no more."

And these magisters seem to know what just happened, even if they're a little addled from that pervert the Maker flashing them. (That's been my headcanon since Origins, don't judge.) Some have speculated the Architect's memory loss is due to being that one that got eaten and it taking a toll on his psyche. But, assuming that one was permanently killed, we have five magisters left, counting the Architect.