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[Lorien19]

- Solas heroic sacrifices himself for some cause.

And this is exactly what I mean by "bittersweet" and I think it's far more suitable for him,than having the protagonist killing him.If they decided to kill him off.

[Moondreamer01]

I think I could see my Lavellan killing him if all other option were exhausted, including talking to him and even going with his plan for a while to try to soften his stance. If nothing else, worked, she would kill him, would feel like it's no one else's responsibility to end his life. but it would destroy her. I doubt she'd survive it. If that'S the ending, I see it as the two of them dying from their confrontation.

[BoscoBread]

Another thing occurs to me, as someone with a degree in psychology. Another thing that the devs may have to think about is how many of us may need counseling (okay, actually saying that sounds kind of ridiculous because it is "just a game" but this is a real world legal issue and some people--including myself--get really emotionally invested in good story telling). How much of that do you think is going to matter when it comes down to the romance between Solas and Lavellan. I almost feel like they would have to include a "way out" (or rather a way back in) to the Solas romance for the people who might need IRL counseling. For legal reasons. Which still kind of sounds silly, but also it's a real thing.

Edited for fixing autocorrect. Stupid autocorrect... Although, calling the devs "the devistating" may not be such a misnomer.

I don't think so. It's no different than any of the other ridiculously sad endings that exist in media.  And that would NOT be the most tragic one I've ever seen/thought of - did anyone read the Babes in Toyland arc of Fables? Christ, talk about tragic.  killing your own LI is - unfortunately - an incredibly common trope. 

 

I think the fan pushback though would be so ridiuclously bad if they forced us to kill him, though, that I don't think they'll do it.  He's a very sympathetic character - even if you didn't romance him.  He's set up so you want him to be better and do better.  So then to come in and be like 'hey guys, we know you like solas and he's a decent guy but you have to kill him, thx' .  i would be like 'wtf, why? no???'  though if they did and set it up in a certain way, it would be incredibly sad but also kind of work.  i am NOT advocating this nor do i want this.  i'm just tossing thoughts around.

[Sah291]

My Lavellan absolutely would kill Solas if he posed a threat. She'd still love him, but she's not going to let love get in the way of her protecting others.

So will mine, I think.

My Hawke spared Anders, but I role played Hawke as kind of chaotic neutral. Quizzy will forgive him for the past, but won't hesitate to stop him from doing something terrible, if what he is planning is evil. I guess that depends what he is planning to do. It's possible she might not consider what he is planning to be truly evil. So can't say.

[Abyss108]

I had to walk into this topic whilst the depressing "kill Solas" conversation is happening...

 

I've got a bit of a dilemma if it comes to killing Solas to save the world... I think the character I role-played as could kill him, but I don't think that I could!

[flabbadence]

Off topic, but sadly, Gaider's shutting down his Tumblr blog: http://dgaider.tumbl...log-coming-down

 

It's worth a visit before he does.

[Elven_Glory]

My Lavellan could kill him if it came down to it, but only as a last resort.

And she is definitely not the type to wallow when he leaves. She's the Inquisitor, and there is a crisis every five minutes. She doesn't have time to cry and listen to Cydi Lauper:D

Don't get me wrong. Katori wasn't wallowing or listening to Cyndi Lauper, but she was throwing herself into her work--ie: killing things-- and not giving a **** if she surived it. Those were dismal times, but they didn't last for very long. Only long enough to kill a few dragons and all of the bears and wolves in the Hinterlands.

[mythlover20]

Well...the Norse gods of the Marvel mythos aren't pretending to be the least bit accurate to actual Norse mythology. They're a re-interpretation of a text. Re-interpretations of texts are as old as stories themselves. And the thing is, this happens with every mythology, even Christian mythology. We argued about this exact thing a while back except with regards to depictions of Satan/Lucifer in Milton's Paradise Lost. Catholicism gets reinterpreted all the time in media, based on the needs of the writer. That doesn't take away from actual Catholic practices any more than a silly summer blockbuster takes away from the myths it's partially based on.

*sighs* Yeah, everyone says that, but these are still my ancestral gods we're talking about, and it still pisses me off.

Short list of why:
 

1. Loki isn't evil.
2. Loki isn't Thor's brother.
3. Loki is actually Thor's uncle, Odin's blood brother.
4. Loke always knew he was a Jotun.
5. Sigurd has been wiped from existence.
6. Freya has been wiped from existence, and her role given to Sif.
7. The Cloudspinner - ie Frigga - has always been the only god to outsmart the god of wit - ie Odin. She's got nothing to do and is basically a prop, and a trigger for Thor and Loki's man pain in the second movie.
8. Sleipnir exists: where the hell are Hel and Fenrir?
9. Boob armour. They're supposed to be a warrior culture - they're going to learn pretty quickly that one good whack across a chest wearing boob armour is going to fracture the sternum and the warrior is going to end up with shards of bone piercing their heart and lungs. Not a pleasant way to die. It's existence undermines them, and especially Sif.
10. Those bloody horns. The only thing they're good for is giving your enemy something to hold on to while they slit your throat. Loki is intelligent. The fact that he's wearing them at all contradicts it.
11. Almost everyone also does what you just did: dismiss us by saying that they're not trying to be anything like the myths. Well they bloody well should! This isn't a dead and buried culture that hasn't been around for thousands of years: it is a living breathing religion still practiced by thousands of people who still believe in the Gods and still practice the old ways. So this now can tie directly back into dragon age: why aren't we being offered the same respect that practitioners of the major religions are offered simply by existing within a major religion.

Also, while a lot of movies are made made based on Christian mythos, almost all of them at least try to treat the subject matter with some respect. They may fail, but they try. Marvel doesn't even do us that courtesy, and Stan Lee himself has admitted on a number of occasions he doesn't know what he's talking about half the time. The only two I can think of that didn't even really try were The DaVinci Code and Noah. That's two out of... how many thousands? They should have treated their basic subject matter with more respect than they did. Sadly, ours almost never are. There has only recently been a change in this, for which I humbly thank the gods for, because it was sorely needed.

*sighs* And now I just know I am going to be banned, which is sad because I was just starting to feel safe here, but this has to be said, so, just in case... goodnight and goodbye, I guess. It truly was lovely to meet all of you, regardless of where we stood on this particular issue. Dareth shiral, and may you get all your fanfic and dlc desires.

 

[Mims]

Off topic, but sadly, Gaider's shutting down his Tumblr blog: http://dgaider.tumbl...log-coming-down

 

It's worth a visit before he does.

 

:[ Well, it was fun while it lasted. I can't say I'm surprised though. Tumblr is one of the nastier communities I've seen. 

[Siha]

I don't know, but he can pee so maybe he has a penis.

Is *that* confirmed? I can and I don't have one.

[Janic99]

Since this thread moves so fast I wanted to repost my SOLAS TRAILER/SHORT TRIBUTE VIDEO!

I sent this to Fan contest to bioware just for fun:



I think you will enjoy watching it. I had a lot of fun making it x3 

 

[Little Mama]

I'm not sure if My Lavellan could kill him. Probably, if she knew that it was the only way to save the rest of the world. But her heart would die in the process, she'd never forgive herself or be the same ever again. She'd slowly die from within. 

She's strong, and not a self-pity type, but there are limits to how much one can take.  

 

But let's hope it won't go that far. I want a happy ending for once. 

[Prince of Keys]

*sighs* And now I just know I am going to be banned, which is sad because I was just starting to feel safe here, but this has to be said, so, just in case... goodnight and goodbye, I guess. It truly was lovely to meet all of you, regardless of where we stood on this particular issue. Dareth shiral, and may you get all your fanfic and dlc desires.

 

 

Why would you get banned? You're more than welcome to share your thoughts; I don't think any of us would demand you leave because of something like this. It's not like you were harassing people or insulting them or anything...

[Adynata]

If Bioware makes us kill him then that would be the sh*ttiest thing they've ever done. I'd probably just put my controller down and walk away.

 

I mean, they've never made us kill an LI before. Even Anders could be spared. We didn't even have to kill the Architect! And he was the one who started the 5th blight!

 

Why spend a whole game making us sympathize with him, even giving him a romance path to show just how lonely and earnest he is, just to make us kill him off? Bioware are many things, but they're not sadists.

 

Which is why they might have him sacrifice himself and our "choice" is whether or not to take in his soul or something OGB-style. 

[MoonDrummer]

My elves would definitely sell the inquisition down the river to rebuild dat elven glory. I dont see me getting the option though.

[Moondreamer01]

:[ Well, it was fun while it lasted. I can't say I'm surprised though. Tumblr is one of the nastier communities I've seen. 

tumblr is only good if you don't actually listen to anyone and stay for the art reblogs and memes... *shrugs* I kinda understand his frustration with the way it's set up too. truth is he didn't use the right platform for a more professional blog.

[Ajna]

I'm in the putting my controller down and walking away camp...although for me it would be more like... launching my mouse at a wall and stomping off while screaming obscenities.

[Valeria Lavellan]

Dying together is the tragic romance trope that I don't think BioWare has done yet (except in KOTOR, and that had to be restored via mod, I think).  Oh god, if they do that with Solas and Lavellan...I will just be a fountain of tears.  And then I will write all the AU fic because there *has* to be some world in which they can be happy and together.

 

I would enjoy seeing my character stand up for something bigger that everyone things is evil and wrong. More like a revelation at how blind and foolish the dalish have been and she either chooses to follow him (Which I don't think he'll like that, considering he's all about freedom) or tries to change his way of doing things and stop ****** up every time he tries to help.

[NightSymphony]

While I did enjoy the Thor movies..I understand how you feel, Myth.  I am Pagan and I believe in many gods and goddess from many different religions. I also love myths and history. I am half German..so...  yeah. I don't see why you would get banned unless people are reporting you..so I wouldn't worry about it.  I hope it doesn't happen though.

I am enjoying your posts.

 

[Colonelkillabee]

Is *that* confirmed? I can and I don't have one.

 

Solas: "Oh ye of little faith."

 

*drops robe*

[LliiraAnna]

I don't think we'll be forced to kill Solas. As an option, sure, but forced? Ugh, no. I tend to spare everyone I can during my playthroughs, and I think that often, letting people live with full knowledge of what they've done can be a fate worse than death. I spared Loghain, I spared Anders, I didn't kill Avernus or the Architect. If I'll be forced to kill Solas, I won't be happy about it. I probably won't be able to finish the battle

 

Edit: and making him "sacrifice himself" after so many other characters could - depending on your choices - survive would be... not a nice thing to do.

[Mims]

My elves would definitely sell the inquisition down the river to rebuild dat elven glory. I dont see me getting the option though.

 

That would be kind of a great alternate ending. World comes full cycle.

 

I really do wish they'd have some...'alternate universe' style endings? I don't want to say non-canon, because they'd be canon. Just endings that we knew weren't going to expand into future games. 

[WildSky214]

Don't get me wrong. Katori wasn't wallowing or listening to Cyndi Lauper, but she was throwing herself into her work--ie: killing things-- and not giving a **** if she surived it. Those were dismal times, but they didn't last for very long. Only long enough to kill a few dragons and all of the bears and wolves in the Hinterlands.

I believe you, but it wouldn't be a big deal if she was. People deal with things in their own. I just can't see my character doing it because I can't form those kind of emotional attachments with people, myself.

[NightSymphony]

Also..I don't see how killing Solas could be optional. He's a god...you don't just kill a god without something big happening to the world. The next Dragon Age games would be difficult since they would have to pretty much make two games, one for people who killed him and one for people who didn't.