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#60801
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*sighs* And now I just know I am going to be banned, which is sad because I was just starting to feel safe here, but this has to be said, so, just in case... goodnight and goodbye, I guess. It truly was lovely to meet all of you, regardless of where we stood on this particular issue. Dareth shiral, and may you get all your fanfic and dlc desires.

Oh no, please not. Nothing like that. Stop wasting words on something like that and rather explain more about you and what you believe in. You have peaked my interest and I would like to understand better. So stop thinking anyone would have you banned (BioWare would be hard pressed to justify that anyway) and get back to the discussion when you're back online.

Don't get me wrong, I mean no offense, but the people here have been very civilized and nobody came even close to insult you. That shows something, no?
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I am running with a pretty thorough game plan/headcanon so I was always going to disband the order and sod what my team think. I was just surprised she disapproved when she seemed so against the order.

Although everyone but Sera and Solas disapproved. 

So elves agreeing with my elf. How elfy. Sera would disapprove to realise that :D

I had a good long lulz when she asked me why I was so Elfy. LOOOL I didn't know acknowledging things you saw with your own eyes was elfy, lol. Jesus, Sera is an enigma to me. I get that some people cling on to what they believe is real... but she came to the inquisition to see for herself if all the crazy was real, right? So....

 

What the hell's the problem, lol. Be careful what you wished for, beb!


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Ahhh lol, I should not have brought up sexism, sigh...

 

First because I really don't care about people's feelings enough to limit what words I can and can't use in an informal place. If anyone's that sensitive, then I don't really want to get to know them anyway.

 

And no, my language doesn't imply that I'm sexist, and like I said before, if someone actually thinks I'm being sexist, they're going to have to point it out.

 

No, you shouldn't have brought it up. Not when in the same breath you say that you call women 'bitches' in anger. Using gendered language as insults in an argument, in real life or online, is sexist, whether you like it or not.  Why throw names, of any kind, around in the first place? 


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In the midst of all of these sad feels I found this truly adorable thing on tumblr.

 

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http://solas-apologi...erator-lavellan


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Oh no, please not. Nothing like that. Stop wasting words on something like that and rather explain more about you and what you believe in. You have peaked my interest and I would like to understand better. So stop thinking anyone would have you banned (BioWare would be hard pressed to justify that anyway) and get back to the discussion when you're back online.

Don't get me wrong, I mean no offense, but the people here have been very civilized and nobody came even close to insult you. That shows something, no?

If I haven't been banned yet, there's no way in hell she's getting banned for what she's said thus far, lol. I don't agree with all of it, but I didn't see anything banworthy.


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Must be that time of the cycle.

 

Thread's been awful weird the last few days. I wish I could pinpoint exactly why.


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If I haven't been banned yet, there's no way in hell she's getting banned for what she's said thus far, lol. I don't agree with all of it, but I didn't see anything banworthy.

You're our canary, Killabee. If you haven't been banned yet then nobody will be.  :lol:


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I think the problem with DAI is that it was written for a human originally. If the game had been planned from the start to have multiple races then maybe the dialouge choices would be different.

I really wish that post-Haven (right before the Dawn Will Come scene) there was an option to say that you're looking to the elven gods/the Stone/trying to find something in the Qun rather than just Andrastian or atheist. I actually found it pretty hard to roleplay as a religous Dalish (although I did love the converstation you can have with Sera after the Temple of Mythal that lets you say that you believe in the Creators over the the Maker).


I tried putting my foot down as a rogue lavellan that in no way do I believe in the Maker.
There were several times when you had to make a decision on what to say in public.
Like when people assumed that Andraste pulled you out of the Fade. Josie emphasizes to continue with that statement to placate the masses.
I decided to try the bitter route and tell the truth..that no it wasnt Andraste.
I ended up being identified as an atheist lol.
Now I play all my characters non religious / agnostic.

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No, you shouldn't have brought it up. Not when in the same breath you say that you call women 'bitches' in anger. Using gendered language as insults in an argument, in real life or online, is sexist, whether you like it or not.  Why throw names, of any kind, around in the first place? 

I call men bitches in anger too, or not in anger really. And I disagree. I don't hate women or think they're lesser than me. Even women call men bitches. LOL my mom calls her brother a ******...

 

It doesn't reflect how they feel about someone at all.



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I had a good long lulz when she asked me why I was so Elfy. LOOOL I didn't know acknowledging things you saw with your own eyes was elfy, lol. Jesus, Sera is an enigma to me. I get that some people cling on to what they believe is real... but she came to the inquisition to see for herself if all the crazy was real, right? So....

What the hell's the problem, lol. Be careful what you wished for, beb!

You really want an explanation of Sera? Because I could give one. :-P


About the sexist thingy, people, can't we skip that? It's a losing game, really. If something is sexist or not is really just a point of view. There's people who feel insulted if a warrior princess in a game wears some piece of nothing because they think it is sexist. I don't care. It makes no sense, but it sure is neat to look at. It is just a matter of your type of personality. You can take offense or not. Another one can mean offense or not. I am a sarcastic person, which a lot of people take offense in, but I do not care. I would not (even could not) simply change me because somebody else thinks I am doing wrong.
What is the point in arguing about it back and forth?
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I call men bitches in anger too, or not in anger really. And I disagree. I don't hate women or think they're lesser than me. Even women call men bitches. LOL my mom calls her brother a ******...
 
It doesn't reflect how they feel about someone at all.


I don't mean this as accusatory or anything, simply my point of view. Using insults that are specifically gendered based, such as bitches or ****** etc, in itself is sexist, even if it isn't meant that way by the insulted. Using such words continues the propogation of sexist thought and action in our society. I mean, I'm guilty of growing out the occasional joking insult at my close friends, but it's still a bad habit that should be discouraged. IMO, free to ignore me.

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HIM HIM ANSWER ME I WANT TO KNOW IF HE IS VEGAN

 

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HIM HIM ANSWER ME I WANT TO KNOW IF HE IS VEGAN

 

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Well, we do know he eats those fancy orlesian cakes. So I assume he does eat. 


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I call men bitches in anger too, or not in anger really. And I disagree. I don't hate women or think they're lesser than me. Even women call men bitches. LOL my mom calls her brother a ******...

 

It doesn't reflect how they feel about someone at all.

 

I was responding to the exact words you used. And I'm not saying that you hate women, or are in fact sexist, but am pointing out that calling women bitches when you are angry at them, like you said you do, is a sexist behaviour. If you really hold the idea of not being sexist close to your heart, maybe you should refrain from doing that. 


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HIM HIM ANSWER ME I WANT TO KNOW IF HE IS VEGAN

 

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Wouldn't he prefer meat?...Raw? *wiggle* 


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Must be that time of the cycle.
 
Thread's been awful weird the last few days. I wish I could pinpoint exactly why.

It's a mystery! But, something else, I get the feeling only like 10% of all posts tend to be about Solas, might that be?

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Off topic, but sadly, Gaider's shutting down his Tumblr blog: http://dgaider.tumbl...log-coming-down

 

It's worth a visit before he does.

 

Boo, I'll miss him.  Snark aside (and sometimes the Gaider snark is truly glorious) I really like reading about the development process and hearing his perspective on the story.  It's helped me enjoy video games even more now that I understand even a little bit of what goes into creating them.  Can't blame him, though.

 

 

I think the problem with DAI is that it was written for a human originally.  If the game had been planned from the start to have multiple races then maybe the dialouge choices would be different.

 

I really wish that post-Haven (right before the Dawn Will Come scene) there was an option to say that you're looking to the elven gods/the Stone/trying to find something in the Qun rather than just Andrastian or atheist.  I actually found it pretty hard to roleplay as a religous Dalish (although I did love the converstation you can have with Sera after the Temple of Mythal that lets you say that you believe in the Creators over the the Maker).

 

It does show in the dialogue options, especially in the Temple of Mythal.  And to a certain extent, in the racial backgrounds themselves.  Only the Dalish elf is likely to believe strongly in something other than Andrastianism; Cadash is a surfacer, and Adaar is Vashoth.  My Adaar was sort of vaguely Andrastian.


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I don't mean this as accusatory or anything, simply my point of view. Using insults that are specifically gendered based, such as bitches or ****** etc, in itself is sexist, even if it isn't meant that way by the insulted. Using such words continues the propogation of sexist thought and action in our society. I mean, I'm guilty of growing out the occasional joking insult at my close friends, but it's still a bad habit that should be discouraged. IMO, free to ignore me.

I don't mind your opinion, so I won't ignore you :) I doubt it'll matter to anyone here, but I and others use the word "Dick" too... I'm sure people saying just because I use male related terms as insults doesn't mean it's not sexist, but thought I'd put it out anyway.

 

But to bring this back to the original point, I don't agree that Cass is intolerant just because she said something in anger and frustration when 90 percent of the time she is very understanding and considerate of other's opinions. Same as how I don't think someone can claim I hate women or think they're lesser human beings because I use words like ****** in jest or anger.

 

Obviously, people don't agree, same as how they don't agree that Cass isn't intolerant. Perfectly fine. Moving on.



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Well, I suppose this is finally at the state where it isn't complete blackmail. Here's the linework for the Solas/Lavellan picture I am working on. 

 

Spoiler

 

Still have a fair bit left to do though, and probably one or two things to tweak a bit. 


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#60820
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If you really hold the idea of not being sexist close to your heart, maybe you should refrain from doing that. 

Not likely, sorry, ;)


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Well, I suppose this is finally at the state where it isn't complete blackmail. Here's the linework for the Solas/Lavellan picture I am working on. 

 

Spoiler

 

Still have a fair bit left to do though, and probably one or two things to tweak a bit. 

That's an adorable picture!


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HIM HIM ANSWER ME I WANT TO KNOW IF HE IS VEGAN

 

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He subsists on little frilly cakes and Fade dew. I thought that was obvious.  ;)


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Well, I suppose this is finally at the state where it isn't complete blackmail. Here's the linework for the Solas/Lavellan picture I am working on. 

 

*snip of win*

 

Wow, the detail in this!  So much background, and the little napping nug, and how freaking happy and content they both look...

 

Thanks.  I needed that.  Back on the Team Optimism dreadnaught now!  *waves tiny flag*


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I bet Solas smells like mint. 

 

 

[another screen shot for someone to save]


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It's a mystery! But, something else, I get the feeling only like 10% of all posts tend to be about Solas, might that be?

 

It is a mystery, especially because as of a few days ago we actually were almost always on topic.

 

I wonder why that dynamic changed.