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[Siha]

Solas is one, as is Sera. They look healthy. Fiona too. They were fine more or less before as well. And the concept art made them look healthy too.

 

It's just now that the devs decided to go all out with the anorexia. Elves are elegant yes, but not pathetic.

 

I dislike the bodies, not only elven but also human (female), have disliked them ever since ME. The arms have always looked like broken cigarettes, and in Inquisition in particular they also look like they were attached to the body by a 3-year-old child. I don't know why they must look so wooden and wrong when other games show what's possible. BioWare seems to like it though.

However, still I understand and appreciate the idea that body shapes differ between races and that elves are very thin. Fenris was like that already. (I don't play males so I don't know about the male elf model here.)

 

Sera is not a good example, btw, she is "human-trained" and this is expressed through her body as well. Fiona wears that robe that does not show much and does not exist in game, so it is probably a standard body. And that Solas looks different has been pointed out already as indicating his special origin.

 

 

Ah, I don't know much about fungi but I can look into it further when I get home. You're talking about something like having the fungus being a vector for disease transmission right? I know vectors, but I don't know fungi. I'll see what I can do when I get out of school! From what I know off the top of my head it sounds like it could work though.

 

Why do people always assume I knew what I am talking about? It's like that at work already. Really, I don't. Basically I'm just talking... Alright, so my thoughts are: I know little of fungi but the blight does have some parasitic aspect to it. Now, a "regular" parasite would not wish to kill its host so quickly, so that does not make sense. Usually they have a more symbiotic relationship and the host just loses in the longer run. A fungus, however, that might spread because of its host's death, that would serve as an explanation. Still, a fungus alone does not explain enough. It can infest the brain and maybe cause enough damage to important parts to cause delusions and aggression, but I do not think it is as strong as your theory to explain the other changes like the black veins and crippledness. If it were only a fungus with the intention to kill quickly in order to spread, then why do some organisms carry it for so long, suffering multiple mutations?

I still think you are right on the hybrid approach, no single pathogene (known to us) can sufficiently explain the Blight.

But you know a lot more about all this than me and maybe I am totally wrong. I've become quite capable of living with failure.

[Colonelkillabee]

The TL;DR version is that the old gods are one with the taint, and it's their god mojo. The Black City kept it contained in the fade away from their physical bodies trapped in Thedas, and they whispered to the Tevinter to reclaim it. They want to be tainted to be awakened, and killing them without Morrigan's ritual may possibly just make them free to return to the fade. Or they may act as pillars that keep the world from the fade, and killing them all may be one step to merging the fade with thedas... Either way, killing them doesn't seem to be enough and may make things worse.

 

In theory.

Actually, merging the worlds by their physical selves dying may be a part of that. If the world was split to contain them and the other gods, they're probably all weakened by the world being the way it is just as how immortality left everyone.

[Gwyvian]

The TL;DR version is that the old gods are one with the taint, and it's their god mojo. The Black City kept it contained in the fade away from their physical bodies trapped in Thedas, and they whispered to the Tevinter to reclaim it. They want to be tainted to be awakened, and killing them without Morrigan's ritual may possibly just make them free to return to the fade. Or they may act as pillars that keep the world from the fade, and killing them all may be one step to merging the fade with thedas... Either way, killing them doesn't seem to be enough and may make things worse.

 

In theory.

 

Good, good. I can work with that. Thanks for the update.

 

Now! If I can find a moment before the computer, I will continue my own crafting.

[Siha]

Hmm.. only if your in a big company. The time period in thedas probably doesn't require much paper work nor a maternal package. it's likely you just leave and reapply for the job.

 

Because serious is boring and requires thinking. Jokes can be replied lightly andwith or without smart jokes. 

Yeah, sure. Leave and reapply. Want to see the Inquisitor replacement who is willing to step down again and let the old one take over again. Usually when you're out of the job you're out of the job. Or... well, maybe in Thedas there will be blood.

 

I don't mind the smart joke replies. I mind those that make me feel like I was a bit oafish. Which I might be but that is not the point.

[Colonelkillabee]

As for elven bodies, my examples weren't saying that Solas and Fiona, Sera, etc were the rule. I'm not sure what Sera being human trained would have to do with her body looking the way it is though if that were my point.

 

I simply mean that obviously elves don't have to look like that. You can be skinny and linky and look different from humans without looking like I can break you with a push.

[Pinax]

Ah, I don't know much about fungi but I can look into it further when I get home. You're talking about something like having the fungus being a vector for disease transmission right? I know vectors, but I don't know fungi. I'll see what I can do when I get out of class! From what I know off the top of my head it sounds like it could work though.

 

The reference of "zombie ants" has been used to illustrate the comparison already, I'm also thinking of examples like this one (look at point 7 about snails parasite and later on more on "zombie ants": http://io9.com/12-re...hosts-461313366

[Siha]

I simply mean that obviously elves don't have to look like that. You can be skinny and linky and look different from humans without looking like I can break you with a push.

You think Sera looks different from humans?

 

I agree with you. Playing a warrior Solas praises my muscles, which was the best joke in the whole game. A warrior should have muscles, whatever race. It's bad that an elf does not have them. My point is just that thin -- even much too thin -- is okay when assuming that different races just look different. Especially since it is not simply a thinner human body but the whole bone structure differs. BioWare overdoes it, yes, but I do appreciate their basic intention.

 

But, yes, I do not know why I'm arguing here because I do not actually care much.

[bunniebean]

I dislike the bodies, not only elven but also human (female), have disliked them ever since ME. The arms have always looked like broken cigarettes, and in Inquisition in particular they also look like they were attached to the body by a 3-year-old child. I don't know why they must look so wooden and wrong when other games show what's possible. BioWare seems to like it though.

However, still I understand and appreciate the idea that body shapes differ between races and that elves are very thin. Fenris was like that already. (I don't play males so I don't know about the male elf model here.)

 

Sera is not a good example, btw, she is "human-trained" and this is expressed through her body as well. Fiona wears that robe that does not show much and does not exist in game, so it is probably a standard body. And that Solas looks different has been pointed out already as indicating his special origin.

 

 

 

Why do people always assume I knew what I am talking about? It's like that at work already. Really, I don't. Basically I'm just talking... Alright, so my thoughts are: I know little of fungi but the blight does have some parasitic aspect to it. Now, a "regular" parasite would not wish to kill its host so quickly, so that does not make sense. Usually they have a more symbiotic relationship and the host just loses in the longer run. A fungus, however, that might spread because of its host's death, that would serve as an explanation. Still, a fungus alone does not explain enough. It can infest the brain and maybe cause enough damage to important parts to cause delusions and aggression, but I do not think it is as strong as your theory to explain the other changes like the black veins and crippledness. If it were only a fungus with the intention to kill quickly in order to spread, then why do some organisms carry it for so long, suffering multiple mutations?

I still think you are right on the hybrid approach, no single pathogene (known to us) can sufficiently explain the Blight.

But you know a lot more about all this than me and maybe I am totally wrong. I've become quite capable of living with failure.

There is a fungus in the rainforest (not sure which) that attacks the host insects brain, changing the way it thinks. This fungi makes the host bug do things outside its natural functions like perching on a leaf exposed to be eaten. It controls the hosts mind and is in no way symbiotic. It will actully grow out of the insects body! 

Ophiocordyceps unilateralis

Modifié par bunniebean, 23 janvier 2015 - 07:09 .

[Kryllian]

Solas can romance any female elf, right? Not just mages?

[Mims]

Solas can romance any female elf, right? Not just mages?

 

Correct!

[Colonelkillabee]

You think Sera looks different from humans?

 

I agree with you. Playing a warrior Solas praises my muscles, which was the best joke in the whole game. A warrior should have muscles, whatever race. It's bad that an elf does not have them. My point is just that thin -- even much too thin -- is okay when assuming that different races just look different. Especially since it is not simply a thinner human body but the whole bone structure differs. BioWare overdoes it, yes, but I do appreciate their basic intention.

 

But, yes, I do not know why I'm arguing here because I do not actually care much.

Lol I didn't know you were arguing We're just discussing.

 

As for Sera, I honestly didn't compare her, but it doesn't matter since I personally don't mind some elves looking a bit human, whereas others like yourself like the distinction.

 

That's the same for me in the elderscrolls, but they manage to make body sizes varied (along with facial features) without overdoing the skinny thing. It's especially off putting for males. I personally don't think variation is that important, if it means the pc has to look like the emo chick from the Incredibles.

[CapricornSun]

Solas can romance any female elf, right? Not just mages?

 

Yes, any female elf. Doesn't matter which class you pick.

[Colonelkillabee]

 

There is a fungus in the rainforest (not sure which) that attacks the host insects brain, changing the way it thinks. This fungi makes the host bug do things outside its natural functions like perching on a leaf exposed to be eaten. It controls the hosts mind and is in no way symbiotic. It will actully grow out of the insects body! 

Ophiocordyceps unilateralis

 

The last of us.

 

For funzies, here's a fun video:

 

[Siha]

 

There is a fungus in the rainforest (not sure which) that attacks the host insects brain, changing the way it thinks. This fungi makes the host bug do things outside its natural functions like perching on a leaf exposed to be eaten. It controls the hosts mind and is in no way symbiotic. It will actully grow out of the insects body! 

Ophiocordyceps unilateralis

That's extremely interesting and I love how the name says it all.

But it kills its host pretty quickly (according to Wikipedia), so it does not work quite like the Blight. And I am not sure how much we should speak about brain and a way of thinking when it comes to ants. However, it is a further piece of evidence that makes the fungus theory more compelling. (It should be added to the wiki.) Still, I can't help but think that it alone is not powerful enough to explain the Blight.

[bunniebean]

The last of us.

 

For funzies, here's a fun video:

 

I was on youtube watching this when i switched back to this page lol I find the name of the spore reeeeaaaallly interesting

[Rabbitonfire]

You know what was an awesome game to discuss  character's physique? Dragon's dogma. 

 

If small, you run faster, has high regeneration, higher dodging, physically weaker.

If big, carry more, stronger, less likely to be knocked down, burns energy more quickly

[bunniebean]

That's extremely interesting and I love how the name says it all.

But it kills its host pretty quickly (according to Wikipedia), so it does not work quite like the Blight. And I am not sure how much we should speak about brain and a way of thinking when it comes to ants. However, it is a further piece of evidence that makes the fungus theory more compelling. (It should be added to the wiki.) Still, I can't help but think that it alone is not powerful enough to explain the Blight.

The term brain was used for lack of a better term lol well this is a game vs reality so my guess is the blight was made with this fungi in mind  that sounded kinda rude, sorry that wasnt my intention

[Pinax]

If it were only a fungus with the intention to kill quickly in order to spread, then why do some organisms carry it for so long, suffering multiple mutations?

I still think you are right on the hybrid approach, no single pathogene (known to us) can sufficiently explain the Blight.

But you know a lot more about all this than me and maybe I am totally wrong. I've become quite capable of living with failure.

 

Many parasites do not drain their host straight ahead, as there are more interested to keep it living to feed/whatever and they just kill the host, when it's too week to fill it's purpose.

 

My whole idea was to find a comparison of a disease/carrier which has another living purpose than it's host body, and uses the host's body to achieve it, and I found out fungus (or maybe viruses too) may be a good parallel to explain the blight

[Siha]

As for Sera, I honestly didn't compare her, but it doesn't matter since I personally don't mind some elves looking a bit human, whereas others like yourself like the distinction.

I did not say I liked it. In fact, whenever a game allows customization I want to rebuild myself, only as an elf. I had a hard time trying, so I do not actually "like" the Elven design. I only "appreciate the idea". On a purely academic level.

[bunniebean]

Many parasites do not drain their host straight ahead, as there are more interested to keep it living to feed/whatever and they just kill the host, when it's too week to fill it's purpose.

 

My whole idea was to find a comparison of a disease/carrier which has another living purpose than it's host body, and uses the host's body to achieve it, and I found out fungus (or maybe viruses too) may be a good parallel to explain the blight

The fungus i mentioned adapted to control a host that doesnt have a true brain ie limited function. Now if that fungus mutated to take control of an animal with more basic functions, it could become more intelligent if you will.

[Colonelkillabee]

Just another fun video on the Cornflakes fungus since it's the best chance we've got for a zombie outbreak, lol:

 

 

Also, that book they mention is a good one, recommend reading it.

[Siha]

You know what was an awesome game to discuss  character's physique? Dragon's dogma. 

 

If small, you run faster, has high regeneration, higher dodging, physically weaker.

If big, carry more, stronger, less likely to be knocked down, burns energy more quickly

Whatever aspect (except for interpersonal relations) -- Dragon's Dogma is an awsome game to discuss. I have hardly ever felt as .. awsome .. in a game as when I clung to my first Chimera. What body you chose made a difference for gameplay. The spells of your mage pawns actually had to be chosen based on the individual foe, all the atmosphere! And it was the first game where I really had to run through areas to get past enemies in the first levels. A shame they did not level up with you and you ended up totally overpowered.

[Avejajed]

PLAYING CARDS ARE BACK IN STOCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK.

 

So I bought a bunch. #noregrets

[Rabbitonfire]

Whatever aspect (except for interpersonal relations) -- Dragon's Dogma is an awsome game to discuss. I have hardly ever felt as .. awsome .. in a game as when I clung to my first Chimera. What body you chose made a difference for gameplay. The spells of your mage pawns actually had to be chosen based on the individual foe, all the atmosphere! And it was the first game where I really had through areas to get past enemies in the first levels. A shame they did not level up with you and you ended up totally overpowered.

I remember the ogre...It gets super aggressive and stronger if near females. I had an all female party and was pulverized so I changed my party to have all the members males. Well sh*t, I was still female and a healer so it went after me. 

[LliiraAnna]

Speaking of pictures...

 

I tried to do a sketch of my Lav yesterday, and thought that I'd share... Just a simple pencil drawing, and nowhere as good as most of the other stuff people post here, but...

It's a mental exercise. Need to... press... the "Post"... button...

 

Spoiler

 

*hides*