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CapricornSun

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I actually like elves being very thin and long-limbed, with angular features. Makes them, you know... like elves, not humans.

That said, I didn't like the DA2 design at all; I thought they were too freakishly exaggerated caricatures of waifish elves. I thought they looked freakish, buggish, and too alien. I feel DAI has found a nice middle ground between "lithe, pointy-eared people" in DAO (which I actually liked from the beginning, btw) and the obscenely exaggerated goat people of DA2.

That said, have you ever noticed that since DA2, the standard body shapes and features BioWare bestows on elves don't apply to elven companions? Fans of DA2 designs often pointed to Fenris and Merrill looking good, but that's because they looked the most human. Fenris actually had muscle, and Merrill had more streamlined features. For DAI, elves have tiny torsos and matchstick limbs (which I actually like), while Solas and Sera are much taller and have much more meat and muscle on their bones. I guess it makes sense story-wise, since Solas is one of the ancient elves from before millennia of slavery and diaspora (notice he looks more like Abelas and the ancient elves than any modern elves), and Sera is basically a human who just happened to have been born with pointy ears. She rejects everything elven with her mind and soul, and so from a design perspective her human-like body reflects it.

Still, it's funny how BioWare does that. They act so proud of their stylized elf designs, yet they don't use it on their elven companions. (The elven characters that most PCs will see and interact with through most of the game, btw.)


I get what they were trying to do with the elf design in DA2, that is, trying to make them not look like humans with pointy ears. Like you and other people have said, Fenris and Merrill look great (and I personally think Orsino looks pretty good too). But the other elves look just look... weird. :wacko:

I do like how they look in DA:I. It's a pity we never get to see a lot of them up close since talking to NPCs no longer goes to a "cut-scene" like in DA:O and DA2 and instead, re-adjusts the camera angle to zoom in only a little bit to the person you're talking to. I wanted to see the Dalish NPCs with their vallaslin up close. :(

Oh! And the one thing I'll never get over is how skinny my Lavellan's arms are. I don't mind her being lithe, but dang those arms look so odd during that balcony scene with Solas and when she lifted that giant sword when they declared her to be the Inquisitor. I thought she was going to fall over during the latter. D:
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#61352
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Lavellans look surprisingly good in those outfits.


I was gonna download the mod to make the ball outfit a more flattering white because white is more her colour but...modding DAI seems too much like a beta test to me right now so I'll make do.

Looks better on her than it did my Adaar anyway. I'm still not even sure how they got one her size. :S

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I've been always reluctant to share my paintings as well,mainly because some people insisted that they're awful and discouraged me from sharing them. :P
At this point,I just paint for the sake of painting and rarely publish anything anymore. :D

 

Thanks. I just tend to be very critical towards my drawings. Which is not a bad thing, I suppose, since otherwise I'd never improve  ^_^

 

I am always very nervous about showing off something I've done. Even for the scant few I've posted here, I tend to spend more time looking at the post message and wondering if I should or not. Unfortunately I don't think it is something you can ever escape if that is apart of your personality. Never feel like you don't have something worthy to show other people! I love looking at artwork. There is always something of merit to find. 



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... my profile's ...

O_O

You put serious effort in that, didn't you?



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Speaking of pictures...

I tried to do a sketch of my Lav yesterday, and thought that I'd share... Just a simple pencil drawing, and nowhere as good as most of the other stuff people post here, but...
It's a mental exercise. Need to... press... the "Post"... button...

Spoiler


*hides* :ph34r:


Better than I could draw. I have a very simplistic rather cartoonish style. You'll see. The doodles I posted the other day are about as well done as I usually draw, so not great, but I take pride in the fact that people can usually tell what the picture is supposed to be of.

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About lyrium: I've always assumed it was like mercury, with both a solid and liquid state.  In Asunder, there's also a description of raw lyrium, and it's a liquid.
 

 

Makes sense, if we're conceiving of it as the literal "blood of the Stone".  Liquid in its natural raw form, making what we refer to as blue lyrium a bit like a scab.  

 

*shudders*   The more I think I understand about dwarves and the Stone, the more unsettling they get. 


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I completely sympathize with artists who are shy about publishing their work online.  I'm so shy about negative feedback on my initial attempts at fan fiction, I don't even have the nerve to enable comments on AO3!



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Hey, pleeeease don't worry so much and just post it! Whatever you created, you put a lot of time and work and love into it so how could it possibly be bad? It's "worthy" in any case. Besides, I feel in this thread are fine people and no stupid trolls.

I like to look at whatever you make and enjoy seeing how much you like what you do. And I bet the others feel the same. Don't be so scared.


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Thanks. I just tend to be very critical towards my drawings. Which is not a bad thing, I suppose, since otherwise I'd never improve  ^_^

 

I understand. I get critical towards my drawings too. I'm okay with receiving constructive criticism, because good lord, I need them so I could improve. It's the possibility of receiving really mean feedback that scares me. That's why I get nervous whenever I post them on places like DeviantArt and Tumblr.  :unsure:



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Okay. From now on just: what Rabbitonfire says. Whatever she says. All of it.

Well if you say so. I'm very flattered. *pats head*

 

Here's a cookie:

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O_O
You put serious effort in that, didn't you?


XD nah it all just built up over time. Pics and gifs that Obvious_Shining makes, I put on there.

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I completely sympathize with artists who are shy about publishing their work online.  I'm so shy about negative feedback on my initial attempts at fan fiction, I don't even have the nerve to enable comments on AO3!

But critiquing is what makes you grow. :o



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I like how every artist comes in here and is all like, "I just thought I'd show a sketch *disclaimer* it's not that great. It's not, really."

 

*shows off some awesome awesomeness*

 

Kurt-Crying-kurt-hummel-gleek-10950246-3

 

I just want to take my finger and go "SHOOSH! Just let it happen, babe. Show me everything you've got." but that might come off creepy.

 

Seriously, though. If any of you out there want to show me some fanart porn (all good fanart is porn, tbh), be my guest. Gimme a PM, if you're shy about it.


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Ugh...you're right.  I will enable comments tonight & see what people say.  I *do* want to improve.



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But critiquing is what makes you grow. :o


True,although some people seem to confuse critiquing with criticising,and while the first can be constructive the second can be truly destructive.
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I like how every artist comes in here and is all like, "I just thought I'd show a sketch *disclaimer* it's not that great. It's not, really."

 

*shows off some awesome awesomeness*

Spoiler

 

I just want to take my finger and go "SHOOSH! Just let it happen, babe. Show me everything you've got." but that might come off creepy.

 

Seriously, though. If any of you out there want to show me some fanart porn (all good fanart is porn, tbh), be my guest. Gimme a PM, if you're shy about it.

I'm a huge procrastinator so I got alot of wips so nothing to show off.



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Well if you say so. I'm very flattered. *pats head*

 

Here's a cookie:

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*wipes tear from eye*  This should be on the front page.


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#61368
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I don't mind elves tall and lean- I don't even mind elves a bit on the skinny side. But their heads never fit the rest of their bodies. It's just weird. Solas looks okay.


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Well if you say so. I'm very flattered. *pats head*

 

Here's a cookie:

Spoiler

Don't get me wrong but that disgus... I mean... You know I'm with Cullen, this... just doesn't feel right... It's not your fault, it's mine... I don't like cookies, thank you very much.



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double post



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I think it's a shame that Solas wasn't there during the Wicked Grace scene. I wonder..did they invite him to play and he declined or did they not even bother?  He looks like he's having so much fun in this picture.

 

http://mariagrantz.d...ullen-509009844

 

Probably because as Blackwell says, he hasn't lost a game since the grey warden taught him how to play... They all probably forgot to invite him...


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But critiquing is what makes you grow. :o

 

Many people are too sensitive for critiques, and most people don't know how to give positively-worded critiques.

 

It's usually like..."No offense, but the side of her face looks a little squashy." instead of "Next time, play around with the proportions of her face, you may find that "insert technique" works well in portraitures."


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Many people are too sensitive for critiques, and most people don't know how to give positively-worded critiques.

 

It's usually like..."No offense, but the side of her face looks a little squashy." instead of "Next time, play around with the proportions of her face, you may find that "insert technique" works well in portraitures."

That's too diplomatic, I'm not a word dancer. I rather just take the drawing and draw on it to point things out. Disrespectful, but direct. Yelling techniques at them is a gamble. 



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Many people are too sensitive for critiques, and most people don't know how to give positively-worded critiques.

 

It's usually like..."No offense, but the side of her face looks a little squashy." instead of "Next time, play around with the proportions of her face, you may find that "insert technique" works well in portraitures."

You assume polite people. Many people just go like "Boah, that's crap!" simply to annoy. There's many like that online and that is hard to take for some people.



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To me the big problem with DA2 elves was the same one DA2 had in general: rushed development. 

 

Plot relevant elves looked good, I liked the big eyes and yes even the nose Avatar inspired as it was because it helped them look less human with pointed ears and more like a unique race all into themselves. IMO it was the overall body proportions that needed re-thinking rather than the idea be scraped altogether. 


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