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[Siha]

Actually, I forgot That orb theory supports my claim better than what I was saying, lol. There was a point, but I lost it.

Yeah, I'm used to that by now.

 

 

So, what did this video say? It's now been changed to "private", so I assume some stuff got spilled that shouldn't have been. 

Basically nothing (if you ask me). Pretty much about "Cool you like the game, I'm really happy, we love you all, please stick around and keep buying the games, I still need a new car. Expect a few more surprises to come." (And before somebody cries out in pain: No, he did not mention the car.)

[drake2511]

That's enough to hope for a reunion perhaps?

It is enough to me. but I don't know, I'm desperate for more Solas, so...

[annsa]

I was wondering about the last balcony scene, do we get the same scene as people who did not romance anybody?

 

And about the video, someone here said that he said there would be future surprises or something =)

[zambixi]

It is enough to me. but I don't know, I'm desperate for more Solas, so...

 

He'll be back. The end of Witch Hunt DLC was MUCH more final than the end of DAI and Morrigan ended up coming back. If Solas weren't a popular character I'd be worried that they'd drop his story but as it stands... I mean they ended up referencing his romance at PAX right? This thread is huge. There's tons of fanart/fanfiction devoted to Solas. I wouldn't worry.

[Illyria]

I went for "kiss for luck", but this didn't stop me from exploring all the options on youtube (I want to know all about Solas, lol).

 

I think that's the side benefits one, isn't it?  The middle option?  I can't actually remember the paraphrased line, just the exchange it lead into.

[nikki-tikki]

It is enough to me. but I don't know, I'm desperate for more Solas, so...

The struggle is real. Its bordering on unhealthy, being glued to these forums for some small hint. I always wondered what would happen if some employee just went on YouTube or Reddit and just spoiled the whole story (assuming the story isnt being made up as they go along). I'm not sure if I would be glad or upset...the suspense is killing me

[Pinax]

I think that's the side benefits one, isn't it?  The middle option?  I can't actually remember the paraphrased line, just the exchange it lead into.

Nope, the 1st one from the top Side benefits is the middle option.

[Shari'El]

Not really. Just read how the fall of Arlathan is described: "You ask what happened to Arlathan? Sadly, we do not know. Even those of us who keep the ancient lore have no record of what truly happened. What we have are accounts of the days before the fall, and a fable of the whims of the gods."

 

"As to why the gods didn't answer, our people left only a legend. They say that Fen'Harel, the Dread Wolf and Lord of Tricksters, approached the ancient gods of good and evil and proposed a truce. The gods of good would remove themselves to heaven, and the lords of evil would exile themselves to the abyss, neither group ever again to enter the other's lands. But the gods did not know that Fen'Harel had planned to betray them, and by the time they realized the Dread Wolf's treachery, they were sealed in their respective realms, never again to interact with the mortal world. It is a fable, to be sure, but those elves who travel the Beyond claim that Fen'Harel still roams the world of dreams, keeping watch over the gods lest they escape from their prisons."

 

"Whatever the case, Arlathan had fallen to the very humans our people had once considered mere pests. It is said that the Tevinter magisters used their great destructive power to force the very ground to swallow Arlathan whole, destroying eons of collected knowledge, culture, and art. The whole of elven lore left only to memory."

 

The entire entry is pretty clear that not only do the Dalish have limited knowledge, but that it's possible this "legend" could be entirely wrong. I'm honestly surprised that some people feel like the Dalish can't admit when they're wrong when they willingly admit they could be wrong about why Arlathan fell, or what happened to it after it fell. Keeper Gisharel makes it clear that it's only what's been told, not what absolutely happened beyond a shadow of a doubt.

 

I know they have limited knowledge, but as much as I love the Dalish there are plenty of them who are very close minded.

And some are not, like the Lavellan clan, it really depends on who you ask. 

They have a general opinion of the Dread Wolf and it's a really negative one, it can easily create tunnel vision that blocks them from seeing what's in front of them. They act upon these legends, they wear vallaslins, they curse by the Dread Wolf's name, that's enough to show their beliefs. Maybe the keepers are moderate and have a flexible mind, but the simpler elves? Nah. That's how it is in real life as well. The wise tend to see things in less black and white, and are open to new ideas, the extremes are more common amongst the less knowledgeable. 

[nikki-tikki]

He'll be back. The end of Witch Hunt DLC was MUCH more final than the end of DAI and Morrigan ended up coming back. If Solas weren't a popular character I'd be worried that they'd drop his story but as it stands... I mean they ended up referencing his romance at PAX right? This thread is huge. There's tons of fanart/fanfiction devoted to Solas. I wouldn't worry.

For me its not really a question IF he will be back...its more along the lines of HOW he'll come back. And mostly if my lavellan can convince him to come back to her.

[Ajna]

He'll be back. The end of Witch Hunt DLC was MUCH more final than the end of DAI and Morrigan ended up coming back. If Solas weren't a popular character I'd be worried that they'd drop his story but as it stands... I mean they ended up referencing his romance at PAX right? This thread is huge. There's tons of fanart/fanfiction devoted to Solas. I wouldn't worry.

 

I've seen nothing from PAX, what's been said?

[drake2511]

He'll be back. The end of Witch Hunt DLC was MUCH more final than the end of DAI and Morrigan ended up coming back. If Solas weren't a popular character I'd be worried that they'd drop his story but as it stands... I mean they ended up referencing his romance at PAX right? This thread is huge. There's tons of fanart/fanfiction devoted to Solas. I wouldn't worry.

What did they say at PAX? I missed it!

[Illyria]

I've seen nothing from PAX, what's been said?

 

This isn't about PAX but...

 

I just noticed the creeper Solas in your icon.

[Ajna]

This isn't about PAX but...

 

I just noticed the creeper Solas in your icon.

 

Too funny to not use

[LobselVith8]

Are you just commenting on how that's bullshit that the Dalish can't figure it out or are you telling me that I'm wrong because the codex link is above and it is a scholar from Orlais? (i can't tell because internet fails at conveying tone).  If it's the former, 'eh'.  When it comes to history, I'm kind of the mind that this these things belong to the world. Look at it this way: Both sides of my family are super Italian.  When I go to a museum and see the Roman mosaics I can see where I come from - I see the same high brow, the eyes, the nose.   That doesn't mean I deserve that history any more than someone from Japan. They can be just as enriched by it. And vice-versa. Same thing goes for Orlesians studying the ancient elves. The ancient elves shaped Thedas for ALL people in it.   Now do I think that means that elves shouldn't participate in the discovery? No. Do I think think they should be second class citizens and barred access from the university(which I imagine they likely are)? No. But I do believe all people can be enriched by it and should have the right to study it.

 

EDIT: Realized I prolly sounded a little rude.  I'm just voicing my own take on it and why I don't get so upset.  I'm not that into the Dalish stuff as in role-playing a proud Dalish. I like the lore. I find it fascinating but I like how it all weaves together. 

 

I was commenting on my annoyance at how the Dalish are depicted at Inquisition; it wasn't intended as a slight at you. Given how we're surrounded by advisers, companions, and even minor characters who will extol the virtues and importance of the Andrastian faith and the Chantry, while constantly dealing with upfront negativity about the Dalish, where only the main character is permitted to say anything positive about the Dalish, and even then the lines often get interrupted to continue the anti-Dalish spiel (as with Minaeve and Vivienne). There's also a tonal shift in how the storyline treats the Andrastian faith in comparison to the Dalish faith, and overall I'm left quite dissatisfied with how it feels incredibly one-sided. I would have preferred much more balance.

[Mims]

At pax Laidlaw mentioned that Weekes said something like: "What if Solas was a romance option? And also I wrote it this weekend." 

 

If that's what people mean, at least. I didn't hear any other reports! Still, I think its safe to say Solas is popular. If you look at the fanfiction and art tags, him and Cullen pretty much dominate. 

[dragondreamer]

THIS. THIS 100x !

 

The Dalish make it clear they know they know little of their past, they don't know what really happened, they only have stories based on myths, legends, and guesses, and they fully admit they're just guessing based on what little information they have at the time. Their culture is dedicated to learning about the past so they don't have to guestimate in the future.

 

Yet, everyone acts like the Dalish claim they know the definitive truth, they refuse to admit they were wrong or alter their view when given contrary evidence. Everyone's quick to say, "HA! THE DALISH WERE WRONG!" Well, not really, because the Dalish never claimed to be right. They fully admit that they don't know much about their past, what little they know is based on stories, legends, and guestimates based on what little information they have, and they want to find out more. Of course you learn new details that supplement or contradict what you knew before when you're still in the process of learning and discovering. (At worst, the Dalish claim they know more about their past than city elves, but that's kind of true since the city elves' knowledge of their heritage is all but gone.)

 

"The Dalish remember fragments of fragments, but that is more than most." - Solas

 

Apparently even Solas agrees on that much.

 

But.  Something that should be remembered is that the reason the Dalish don't have as much knowledge as they could, the reason why a human like Finn might know more, is because of their history.  When the elves of Arlathan were enslaved, Tevinter scavenged everything out of it, and what they didn't absorb into their own culture, was hidden away from the sight of slaves.  What little those slaves still knew was used to build the Dales.  When the Dales was conquered, the Chantry ferreted away what knowledge of the elves they found in the Circles.  Which is why you have to go to the Circle in Witch Hunt to find someone who actually knew ancient elvish and knew anything about eluvians. (Why did Morrigan know ancient elvish?  Remember who her mother is.)  What the Dalish know really is only fragments of fragments.  And they can't help that.  Most of the codexes do underline that the Dalish know they know little, and that's why they keep trying to dig up what info they can.  It's unfortunate that humans know more of their past than they do, but it isn't surprising either.  I thought it was a neat reveal that all this revised info on the ancient elves came from scholarly work that we'd never had access to before ourselves.  We were not unlike the Dalish, since our only knowledge of their ancient history and stories up until now came from Dalish stories.

[TanisLave]

Hey guys, Is there going to be anymore draw sessions? 

[Ajna]

At pax Laidlaw mentioned that Weekes said something like: "What if Solas was a romance option? And also I wrote it this weekend." 

 

If that's what people mean, at least. I didn't hear any other reports! Still, I think its safe to say Solas is popular. If you look at the fanfiction and art tags, him and Cullen pretty much dominate. 

 

Awww I didn't think it was possible for me to love Patrick any more than I do already... but it is, he really wanted to write that didn't he? He's my favourite person in the world, ever.

[Shari'El]

He'll be back. The end of Witch Hunt DLC was MUCH more final than the end of DAI and Morrigan ended up coming back. If Solas weren't a popular character I'd be worried that they'd drop his story but as it stands... I mean they ended up referencing his romance at PAX right? This thread is huge. There's tons of fanart/fanfiction devoted to Solas. I wouldn't worry.

 

The referenced his romance at PAX?

What? I want to know every meaningless detail!

[Elessara]

I was commenting on my annoyance at how the Dalish are depicted at Inquisition; it wasn't intended as a slight at you. Given how we're surrounded by advisers, companions, and even minor characters who will extol the virtues and importance of the Andrastian faith and the Chantry, while constantly dealing with upfront negativity about the Dalish, where only the main character is permitted to say anything positive about the Dalish, and even then the lines often get interrupted to continue the anti-Dalish spiel (as with Minaeve and Vivienne). There's also a tonal shift in how the storyline treats the Andrastian faith in comparison to the Dalish faith, and overall I'm left quite dissatisfied with how it feels incredibly one-sided. I would have preferred much more balance.

 

Re: Minaeve .. I find it interesting that if you use the conversation option that's given if you have the Arcane Lore perk she's comes off as much less hostile about the Dalish.

 

Also ... and I know it's just one line that occurs randomly but still ... after you recruit Loranil, at the wartable Cullen will say he's very eager and Leliana will say that the Dalish possess great knowledge and the Inquisition should be honored they have him.

 

And I do agree that you don't really get many chances to speak positively about being Dalish if you are one.  Most of your responses are defensive, like when Solas asks if your clan sent you to the Conclave and you're all like, "What do YOU know about the Dalish?" or when you ask him about elven culture - although Solas starts that one by being snarky.

[Mims]

Awww I didn't think it was possible for me to love Patrick any more than I do already... but it is, he really wanted to write that didn't he? He's my favourite person in the world, ever.

 

Yeah, I think it is very sweet that he likes adding romances. And that he actually believed in it so much that he did it before actually getting official approval, haha. 

[Siha]

Hey guys, Is there going to be anymore draw sessions? 

You should ask Rabbitonfire, I think she initiated it.

[Rabbitonfire]

Hey guys, Is there going to be anymore draw sessions? 

I plan to hold one every Saturday @ 4pm EST. But I do make small drawing sessions on the weekdays whenever I'm free. But today I have alot of homework so I can't  but someone else could set it up.

 

The Gchat will always be the same, the link is on my signature.

[Aetheria]

I was commenting on my annoyance at how the Dalish are depicted at Inquisition; it wasn't intended as a slight at you. Given how we're surrounded by advisers, companions, and even minor characters who will extol the virtues and importance of the Andrastian faith and the Chantry, while constantly dealing with upfront negativity about the Dalish, where only the main character is permitted to say anything positive about the Dalish, and even then the lines often get interrupted to continue the anti-Dalish spiel (as with Minaeve and Vivienne). There's also a tonal shift in how the storyline treats the Andrastian faith in comparison to the Dalish faith, and overall I'm left quite dissatisfied with how it feels incredibly one-sided. I would have preferred much more balance.

 

DAI doesn't cut the Dalish much slack, true, but one of the major plot threads of the game is all about dismantling the "glorious ancient elven empire callously destroyed by humans" legend/trope, so thematically I think it's not out of place. It may also be an attempt to show a different side of elven culture than the previous two games, which were pretty heavy on examples of humans being jerks to innocent elves. 

 

I remember that somewhere (tumblr?) Gaider mentioned that he felt they had made the mages too sympathetic in Origins and not done enough to show the other side of the story, so I kind of wonder if the writers wanted to push the balance back with the humans-vs-elves thing too.

 

And I do agree that you don't really get many chances to speak positively about being Dalish if you are one.  Most of your responses are defensive, like when Solas asks if your clan sent you to the Conclave and you're all like, "What do YOU know about the Dalish?" or when you ask him about elven culture - although Solas starts that one by being snarky.

 

You do get to snark back a little - I always snicker when the Inquisitor asks Solas if he's allergic to halla

[nikki-tikki]

I plan to hold one every Saturday @ 4pm EST. But I do make small drawing sessions on the weekdays whenever I'm free. But today I have alot of homework so I can't  but someone else could set it up.

 

The Gchat will always be the same, the link is on my signature.

what kind of drawing sessions >.>