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Solas might

 

 

UGH! I WANT MORE!!

 

Actually, I'm not surprised.

 

 

Meh, as long as we can stop his plan but still be able to redeem him like we could F*cking Loghain (and possibly get him back together with our Lavellans), I'll be okay with it.

Yeah, I'm not surprised either. I don't see any reason to panic over this honestly as it's pretty much as I expected. If he hadn't had all the interaction to humanize him, he could've totally just come off as a huge villain by the end of the game. Some people who didn't interact much with him probably do see him that way. I also don't think PW was saying he's just going to be a terrible, horrible villainous murder fiend in the next game or anything either. That would destroy all the characterization that was put into him and would be extremely disappointing; it would result in him being just another evil villain archetype like Coryfish.



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Also, I'm going to be the odd person who voices a potentially unpopular opinion.

 

If you are an odd person out, then so am I! I agree with all of this.


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I won't lie, the Loghain example gets me through a lot of dark moments when it comes to Team Optimism. He and Solas resemble one another a lot in some ways, though I would argue Loghain (whom I adore) displayed more qualities of villainy in DA:O than Solas ever has. It would be strange to me if we didn't get some choice when Loghain can not only be redeemed, but thrive. Plus if that transcription proves anything, it's that Mr. Weekes sticks to his guns when it come to telling a good story. We can probably trust his direction~

 

I'm actually worried that Solas will be Loghain 2.0. Loghain is one of my all time favorite Dragon Age characters, but nothing annoys me more than a plot being repeated. I doubt they'll make him just like that.

Now the question is: if Solas is a not-quite-Loghain character, will he be more sympathetic or less so in the end? I love Solas, but if the guy massacres a crazy amount of people to achieve his ends, he's not going to have a popular redemption arc, if he has one at all.

 

I don't think they'll do that, though.


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She's lookin good, Zarro ;)

Oh I know, lol! She already bedded Bull...twice, shattered Blackwall and left him to be executed, killed Fiona when she appeared at Haven...she kicked Sera out after bedding her too, lol! I am just imagining this is the PT of where Halinia has become so detached and cold.



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I'm actually worried that Solas will be Loghain 2.0. Loghain is one of my all time favorite Dragon Age characters, but nothing annoys me more than a plot being repeated. I doubt they'll make him just like that.

Now the question is: if Solas is a not-quite-Loghain character, will he be more sympathetic or less so in the end? I love Solas, but if the guy massacres a crazy amount of people to achieve his ends, he's not going to have a popular redemption arc, if he has one at all.

 

I don't think they'll do that, though.

They said that they wanted him to come off as the villain in origins even if he could be sympathized with, while they didn't go that route with Solas.

 

So it's already different ;)


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Oh noes O.O

 

It... it doesn't mean he's the next big bad, right? 

 

I got the opposite impression, they humanized him to show that he's not an evil person.


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I have been silently lurking in this thread for the past week since finishing my first playthrough of the game. Finally made my way through many of the posts, and I'm really pleased to have found so many thoughtful ideas and theories about Solas (as well as some hilarious and strange distractions! Ha!). So, I hought I would finally poke my head in and say hi. I romanced Solas on my first inquisitor, and let's just say as my first Bioware romance option, um, whoa. Did I just get lucky and pick the best (or perhaps worst, depending on your perspective) one...? Or are they all this engrossing and heartwrenching!? Hahaha. Something tells me no. 

 

Hi! Welcome! :D

 

First BioWare game and romance? Lucky you! My first one was Aarin Gend from Neverwinter Nights back in 2004. The quality of BioWare romance options has gone up, believe you me.

 

I wouldn't say Solas' is the "best" ... but it is a dang good one. Different BioWare romances have different feels and gimmicks to appeal to different people. Some are more romantic, some are more sexual, some are more humorous, some are more somber and serious, some are more light-hearted, some are more tragic, some are more tied to the main plot, some involve optional side characters to distract you from the main plot (Sera), etc.

 

I like Solas' because it focuses more on pure emotional intensity and ties so well into the main story. I feel like it enriches the story experience, it doesn't just add an enjoyable romantic side quest. To me, while I looove BioWare romances, the "romantic side quests" really feel like side quests. You can choose not to romance anyone and it doesn't really change your perception of the character or the central story. Since Solas is such an integral character from beginning to end, and his goals and motivations are directly tied to the main plot, and he himself is so passionate under the surface but keeps himself at a respectable difference, being in love with him just enriches everything you go through in the game and really makes you feel so much closer to his character.

 

I don't know, that's just me.

 

I think the third act of Inquisition started pushing toward an important future choice for Solas. His tragic flaw is that he takes 100% personal responsibility to fix his own mistakes, and remains too guarded to let anyone in enough to fully trust with the truth of his situation. He holds his cards very, very close. He doesn't know how to let himself trust other people enough to help him make important decisions, no doubt because he has seen so many people (/"gods") make terrible, power-hungry choices that have had awful and far-reaching consequences. More than anyone in the Inquisition, Solas knows that big decisions are not to be made lightly.

 

Solas is also profoundly uncomfortable with being emotionally vulnerable. He is (and I don't mean this as a slight--in fact I think I also am thisremedially introverted. His inability to open up is what holds him back, what trips him up. Lavellan starts to crack the shell, but Solas clams up and is too shy to let her all the way in. Asking someone else for help, to Solas, is an act of dumping his problems, his baggage, on someone else. Since he cares deeply for Lavellan, he doesn't want to burden her with his problems, or as he puts it, 'distract you from your duties'. Solving his problems by himself is his incredibly ineffective way of demonstrating that he cares. His actions are one part pride, one part selflessness. Solas values the individual, and a person's ability to be independent, because this is what he values in himself.

 

I would like to see Solas grow one step further... His curse for Vivienne, "may you learn", is advice he himself should heed. While we can only speculate exactly what Solas wanted the orb for, what the Elven artifacts were for, and what the Mythal absorption was for, we can infer Solas has something big planned involving the Fade. Because Lavellan still bears the mark, the two of them are still bound. As long as Lavellan possesses the mark she potentially has a unique ability connecting her to the Fade in a way that could either greatly aid or greatly hinder Solas' future plans. I think they will for sure meet again.

If Solas is forced to choose between what he deems to be the greater good (whatever his mysterious plan is), and saving one person, like Lavellan, I think the more interesting choice from a pure character development standpoint would be for Solas to choose Lavellan. If there is one person he couldn't bear to lose, it's her. We've seen Fen'Harel fall from grace before, and he has clearly suffered the consequences of the choice to 'go it alone' before. Solas has paid for his mistakes already. To see him really grow as a character, we need to see him driven to a point where he chooses what he wants, not what he believes he has to do. For Solas, the ends always justify the means. He's willing to make sacrifices. If we believe that the romance was absolutely genuine on his part, then the only sacrifice he might not be willing to make would involve Lavellan. The very reason he pulls away from her is because he loves her so much it scares him.

 

The Inquisitor made him doubt himself, and I'd like to see him eventually forced to act on that doubt, to learn what it is to not have to win.

For all his wisdom, Solas' blindspot is himself. He understands so little of what his own personal needs are, because he chooses to ignore them in favor of immersing himself in solving the problems of the world. He is intelligent enough and thoughtful enough to find enough external fascinations that he can distract himself from facing his own squishy emotions. Solas being forced to choose between saving Lavellan and accomplishing his ultimate goal is what I'd most like to see in DLC/future games. Even, and perhaps especially, if choosing Lavellan spells out dire consequences for him, I want to see these two get a chance to change together, if only for a moment. I don't foresee a happy ending, but I think Solas embracing the squishy side and putting the woman he loves ahead of any other agenda is about as positive a move as we can hope for, and that may be asking for a lot because that is the very thing that would be hardest for Solas to do...

 

Beautifully said. I only really have one thing to add:

 

Not for nothing his favorite spirits are Wisdom and Purpose, which can easily be corrupted into Pride and Desire...


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I have been silently lurking in this thread for the past week since finishing my first playthrough of the game. Finally made my way through many of the posts, and I'm really pleased to have found so many thoughtful ideas and theories about Solas (as well as some hilarious and strange distractions! Ha!). So, I hought I would finally poke my head in and say hi. I romanced Solas on my first inquisitor, and let's just say as my first Bioware romance option, um, whoa. Did I just get lucky and pick the best (or perhaps worst, depending on your perspective) one...? Or are they all this engrossing and heartwrenching!? Hahaha. Something tells me no. 

 

I went into this game having not played any of the previous Dragon Age games, and ended up playing quite slowly, reading all codex entries, and looking stuff up on the wikis as I went, because there is a LOT of lore, far more than I could have expected, and a lot that you could easily miss if you just graze the surface of it while playing through. So, I tried to be thorough and pick up as much info as possible.

 

Based on what I've learned, and understanding that there are likely still several gaps in my knowledge of the history and religions of Thedas, here's what I think and where I hope the writers will go with Solas and Lavellan.

 

This is not so much theory-driven speculation as character-driven speculation. Here goes.

 

I think the third act of Inquisition started pushing toward an important future choice for Solas. His tragic flaw is that he takes 100% personal responsibility to fix his own mistakes, and remains too guarded to let anyone in enough to fully trust with the truth of his situation. He holds his cards very, very close. He doesn't know how to let himself trust other people enough to help him make important decisions, no doubt because he has seen so many people (/"gods") make terrible, power-hungry choices that have had awful and far-reaching consequences. More than anyone in the Inquisition, Solas knows that big decisions are not to be made lightly.

 

Solas is also profoundly uncomfortable with being emotionally vulnerable. He is (and I don't mean this as a slight--in fact I think I also am this) remedially introverted. His inability to open up is what holds him back, what trips him up. Lavellan starts to crack the shell, but Solas clams up and is too shy to let her all the way in. Asking someone else for help, to Solas, is an act of dumping his problems, his baggage, on someone else. Since he cares deeply for Lavellan, he doesn't want to burden her with his problems, or as he puts it, 'distract you from your duties'. Solving his problems by himself is his incredibly ineffective way of demonstrating that he cares. His actions are one part pride, one part selflessness. Solas values the individual, and a person's ability to be independent, because this is what he values in himself.

 

I would like to see Solas grow one step further... His curse for Vivienne, "may you learn", is advice he himself should heed. While we can only speculate exactly what Solas wanted the orb for, what the Elven artifacts were for, and what the Mythal absorption was for, we can infer Solas has something big planned involving the Fade. Because Lavellan still bears the mark, the two of them are still bound. As long as Lavellan possesses the mark she potentially has a unique ability connecting her to the Fade in a way that could either greatly aid or greatly hinder Solas' future plans. I think they will for sure meet again.

If Solas is forced to choose between what he deems to be the greater good (whatever his mysterious plan is), and saving one person, like Lavellan, I think the more interesting choice from a pure character development standpoint would be for Solas to choose Lavellan. If there is one person he couldn't bear to lose, it's her. We've seen Fen'Harel fall from grace before, and he has clearly suffered the consequences of the choice to 'go it alone' before. Solas has paid for his mistakes already. To see him really grow as a character, we need to see him driven to a point where he chooses what he wants, not what he believes he has to do. For Solas, the ends always justify the means. He's willing to make sacrifices. If we believe that the romance was absolutely genuine on his part, then the only sacrifice he might not be willing to make would involve Lavellan. The very reason he pulls away from her is because he loves her so much it scares him.

 

The Inquisitor made him doubt himself, and I'd like to see him eventually forced to act on that doubt, to learn what it is to not have to win.

For all his wisdom, Solas' blindspot is himself. He understands so little of what his own personal needs are, because he chooses to ignore them in favor of immersing himself in solving the problems of the world. He is intelligent enough and thoughtful enough to find enough external fascinations that he can distract himself from facing his own squishy emotions. Solas being forced to choose between saving Lavellan and accomplishing his ultimate goal is what I'd most like to see in DLC/future games. Even, and perhaps especially, if choosing Lavellan spells out dire consequences for him, I want to see these two get a chance to change together, if only for a moment. I don't foresee a happy ending, but I think Solas embracing the squishy side and putting the woman he loves ahead of any other agenda is about as positive a move as we can hope for, and that may be asking for a lot because that is the very thing that would be hardest for Solas to do... 

While Solas' motivations still aren't completely understood, I still felt like I got what made him tick. Could be wrong in my speculations, and I guess only time will tell, but I certainly have fun puzzling about Solas. Kudos to Patrick Weekes :) What a complex and compelling character.

 

Also those thighs. Mmm.

The very reason he pulls away from her is because he loves her so much it scares him.

 

:wub:  :wub:  :wub: 


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I've been thinking lately about the codex that's Samson's journal about a conversation he has with Corypheus.  I really can't help but notice parallels...  Because Samson gets to see a different side of Corypheus.  Corypheus' sadness, and even his promise to tell Samson the truth afterwards sounded *really* familiar. 

 

I still just continue to hope that Lavellan will know the truth, and will have some choices other than killing him.  (I'm going to be really optimistic that they won't just leave what's going on with him until DA4.) 


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Oh I know, lol! She already bedded Bull...twice, shattered Blackwall and left him to be executed, killed Fiona when she appeared at Haven...she kicked Sera out after bedding her too, lol! I am just imagining this is the PT of where Halinia has become so detached and cold.

LOL giving her to Solas after Bull was already hilarious. But then you threw in SERA?

 

I can only imagine what she'd say to him about her jokingly when no one else is around at the luchtable. Poor Solas, LOL.


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Regarding the chess game: We also learn a lot more about Solas' way of planning things. While he does plan carefully, he literally goes "all in" with no second option to turn the battle around should someone look through his scheme. If the Bull had figured out the purpose of the pawn, then Solas would have been crushed entirely. There was NO second option for Solas. His plan either works completely OR he loses everything. That's pretty much how it worked out in the past when he locked the gods away.
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I've been thinking lately about the codex that's Samson's journal about a conversation he has with Corypheus.  I really can't help but notice parallels...  Because Samson gets to see a different side of Corypheus.  Corypheus' sadness, and even his promise to tell Samson the truth afterwards sounded *really* familiar. 

 

I still just continue to hope that Lavellan will know the truth, and will have some choices other than killing him.  (I'm going to be really optimistic that they won't just leave what's going on with him until DA4.) 

Oh god... do you know what you've done?


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I could kiss you?  Seriously - as much as love love the Solavellan fluffy fluff fiction, it's gotten to the point where I'm like 'HOW ARE EITHER OF THESE PEOPLE HAPPY?' because both are portrayed as CONSUMED by each other.  I'm currently in a Abelas/Lavellan hell-spiral but the few that are out there show two functioning adults working towards a personal goal but walking the same path together. It's realistic and romantic.

 

 Noone would like Solas if he just threw everything out the window for Lavellan...you may say you would but you wouldn't.  It would be so pathetic.  He's got such a strong sense of self and that's what makes him attractive as a character. Same thing can be said for Cassandra. People love her because she knows who she is and what she wants out of her life. She is confident in her faith. Confident in her beliefs. So is Solas.  


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None of that is any different that what PW told the nerdappropriate people.  We all knew by the end that whatever he was going to do was going to be bad.  We all know that at some point in the near future that Inky and Friends are going to find out and **** will get real.  He TELLS you this.  Not that he doesn't have good intentions...that's what the romance and those banters are for...to show that he has somewhat of a good heart.  Anything that happens coming up with him is going to be difficult because - I repeat - you want to like him.  You want him to be a good person. You want him to be happy.  Even as a friend.  

 

I hope we don't have to kill him, I hope he doesn't kill himself in an effort to stop us from having to kill him, I hope we don't have to tear down Thedas to be with him.  UGH.  I AM COMPROMISED BY THIS VIDEO GAME ROMANCE.  

Same.

 

I would like to point out that I have a propensity to sympathize heavily with the 'villains', because being misunderstood is frustrating. I am still not over the gross mistreatment of James Norrington in Pirates of the Caribbean. 


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Alright guys, I just read the PAX thing and frankly you guys all need to chill the F out. This isn't anything new. Remember when we were talking about how glad we were they went with Solas, vs. cliche trickster dude, for the character? I think that's all this is. Had they made Fen'Harel some cocky, manipulative, smarmy character who never gets close to anyone, only for him to turn out to be that scary Dread Wolf dude the Dalish are so freaked out by, AND he gave the orb to Cornflakes and indirectly caused the breach, AND was lying to you the whole time, AND he 'kills' Flemeth... He would just be villain to most people.

Even if he was generally a nice guy and misunderstood because, God of Rebellion! because the codex you may or may not have found says so. But they didn't make that character. Sure, he did all those things, but he's the same guy who takes Cole under his wing, and tries to reach out to Sera, and plays mental chess with Bull, and grows to deeply respect (and possibly fall in love with) the Inquisitor. He's done some unfortunate things, yes, things a villain might do, out of necessity or because he plain screwed up, but he's not a villain.

I really don't see this as confirmation that he's the future 'big bad.' Also, I love how Weekes went and wrote the romance just because he felt like it and then foisted it on the devs. Also, that he made the lack of resources work for, rather than against, the story. I know a lot of Solavellan fans like that the romance is all about the Elven Glory! but I rather like the idea that he could, in theory, fall for any individual, provided she was simply amazing enough to impress him, regardless of race.
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I won't lie, the Loghain example gets me through a lot of dark moments when it comes to Team Optimism. He and Solas resemble one another a lot in some ways, though I would argue Loghain (whom I adore) displayed more qualities of villainy in DA:O than Solas ever has. It would be strange to me if we didn't get some choice when Loghain can not only be redeemed, but thrive. Plus if that transcription proves anything, it's that Mr. Weekes sticks to his guns when it come to telling a good story. We can probably trust his direction~

Well, with Loghain, if I hadn't found out online that you could recruit him and how that played out or if the Stolen Throne hadn't been written (which I am halfway though at the moment and really liking), I would've just assumed Loghain was the typical evil villain guy who wants my character dead for nefarious reasons that likely involve him standing in a room plotting dark deeds while laughing maniacally. ^_^  The game itself up to the point where you can save him doesn't really give you any reason to do so other than the stories about how he was a hero at one time. Solas got a lot more characterization within this game than Loghain did in Origins (most of his deeper stuff in Origins you couldn't get until after recruiting him), so I hope Solas gets treated just as well as Loghain did in regards to gameplay choices for what ultimately happens to him. I actually like that it was PW who pushed for the romance because it was something he wanted to do.That fact makes me happy. That he felt it was important enough to add makes me feel that he is very invested in Solas as a character and wants people to get to know him and understand him as much as possible.



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Same.

 

I would like to point out that I have a propensity to sympathize heavily with the 'villains', because being misunderstood is frustrating. I am still not over the gross mistreatment of James Norrington in Pirates of the Caribbean. 

And Scar from the lionking. He was just being fabulous. Then that punk ass Simba had to ruin everything, lol.

 

LONG LIVE SCAR.


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Regarding the chess game: We also learn a lot more about Solas' way of planning things. While he does plan carefully, he literally goes "all in" with no second option to turn the battle around should someone look through his scheme. If the Bull had figured out the purpose of the pawn, then Solas would have been crushed entirely. There was NO second option for Solas. His plan either works completely OR he loses everything. That's pretty much how it worked out in the past when he locked the gods away.

That is how he kisses too  :wub:


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LOL giving her to Solas after Bull was already hilarious. But then you threw in SERA?

 

I can only imagine what she'd say to him about her jokingly when no one else is around at the luchtable. Poor Solas, LOL.

Yep, Sera was thrown in or more like they threw each other around before Halinia kicked her out; in her mind Sera's bark is far more potent than her bite.

 

That would be pretty entertaining to hear, lol! I actually kind of want to see some art of this kind of conversation.

 

This is really her "no survivor" PT. I remember there is this one aggressive option and the line was basically like this. "I know you were going to say something, but I really don't care." That's her personality now.



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Oh god... do you know what you've done?

 

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I could kiss you?  Seriously - as much as love love the Solavellan fluffy fluff fiction, it's gotten to the point where I'm like 'HOW ARE EITHER OF THESE PEOPLE HAPPY?' because both are portrayed as CONSUMED by each other.  I'm currently in a Abelas/Lavellan hell-spiral but the few that are out there show two functioning adults working towards a personal goal but walking the same path together. It's realistic and romantic.

 

 Noone would like Solas if he just threw everything out the window for Lavellan...you may say you would but you wouldn't.  It would be so pathetic.  He's got such a strong sense of self and that's what makes him attractive as a character. Same thing can be said for Cassandra. People love her because she knows who she is and what she wants out of her life. She is confident in her faith. Confident in her beliefs. So is Solas.  

I would love an ending where they could work together. I guess I'm spoiled by the ultimate power couple Shepkarian.


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I don't think Solas will be a Loghain repeat, just for the fact that the two are very different.

 

Loghain is the sort of guy that knows when he's done something awful...but he can live with it. He's got guilt, surely, but he also feels very strongly about the decisions he makes and that he's chosen rightly. Even if there was a heavy price to pay for it. When he finally does realizes something is wrong, he doesn't go back and attempt to replicate his mistake to reverse it. He looks for a new avenue. Even if that means sacrificing his pride to do it. 

 

Solas starts off his decision making much like Loghain. He sees problems, knows what needs to be done to fix them...but I don't think he can live with it. Guilt comes crashing in, and he tries to fix it. And he doesn't stop. He makes the initial mistake worse by retreading ground. He second guesses himself. Cole says that Solas chose right in locking away the elven gods; but Solas is still uncertain. Loghain would never be so uncertain. 

 

Essentially: despite being the immortal one, Solas reacts emotionally to problems. Loghain reacts logically. 

 

Of course, it is hard to do a proper comparison without knowing the full extent of what Solas did and what he intends to do to fix it. But that's the general impression I get.


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I really don't see this as confirmation that he's the future 'big bad.' Also, I love how Weekes went and wrote the romance just because he felt like it and then foisted it on the devs. Also, that he made the lack of resources work for, rather than against, the story. I know a lot of Solavellan fans like that the romance is all about the Elven Glory! but I rather like the idea that he could, in theory, fall for any individual, provided she was simply amazing enough to impress him, regardless of race.

In another world, he and my Trevelyan mage are dancing on a balcony in Orlais.  I ship them forever.  


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I'm actually worried that Solas will be Loghain 2.0. Loghain is one of my all time favorite Dragon Age characters, but nothing annoys me more than a plot being repeated. I doubt they'll make him just like that.

Now the question is: if Solas is a not-quite-Loghain character, will he be more sympathetic or less so in the end? I love Solas, but if the guy massacres a crazy amount of people to achieve his ends, he's not going to have a popular redemption arc, if he has one at all.

 

I don't think they'll do that, though.

Well, I wasn't feeling sympathetic at all toward Loghain when I did my first Origins playthrough, so I don't see how they can make Solas less sympathetic in that regard unless I can reach negative levels of unsympathetic. LOL. I like Loghain now, but before I knew more about him, all of his actions in the first part of the game made me just assume he was an evil guy.



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I'm actually worried that Solas will be Loghain 2.0. Loghain is one of my all time favorite Dragon Age characters, but nothing annoys me more than a plot being repeated. I doubt they'll make him just like that.

Now the question is: if Solas is a not-quite-Loghain character, will he be more sympathetic or less so in the end? I love Solas, but if the guy massacres a crazy amount of people to achieve his ends, he's not going to have a popular redemption arc, if he has one at all.

 

I don't think they'll do that, though.

Oh, certainly! My meaning was more that Loghain and Solas tend to work for the greater good, and this is their similarity. It's just their versions of what comprises the greater good may sometimes be morally questionable. Interestingly, at this point, I'm not sure Solas even needs a redemption arc; he's made some poor decisions, certainly, but his actions are difficult to construe as evil.... as things stand now. My hope stems more from the fact that Loghain's fate was given to the players to decide; it would be nice to get that for Solas, who may even be the player character's love.

Edit: I am very slow with responses, haha. Others have already put what I'd like to say much better than I could.