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[Suketchi]

So my Lavellan's deeply seeded traumatic childhood thingy was that in the act of discovering her magic she almost burned her sister to death.

 

Fear of death is what that and other stuff caused. Death of those close to her, death of culture because she's Dalish and even if they're wrong she doesn't think they should just stop, and death of materialistic goods because I like the idea of a tribal nomad caring a Hell of a lot about things that are hers and trying to keep them preserved. Death of herself? Not the topper, but she'd rather it not happen anytime soon.

 

Seeing everyone dying in the bad future did not sit well with her but that's mostly another story.

 

My Lavellan's greatest fear is to be forgotten.

I'm sure there's a deep seeded traumatic childhood reason in her backstory somewhere I never bothered to create.

 

Deep seeded traumatic childhood backstories are the best backstories! The more guilt-ridden, the better!

 

I'm thinking my Lavellan almost killed her younger brother while out hunting. The both of them were still hunter apprentices, practicing in the woods. Her younger brother, who was always better with a bow than her, was showing off. He teased her for her poor marksmenship, stating she might as well be a Shem if she could only weild daggers. Eileen (Yup, that's her name. Don't judge. lol) got upset and competitive. She swapped her daggers for her bow so as to outmatch him, despite having little to no skill with one. Soon, she saw a movement in the bushes behind her brother. Impulsively, Eileen let a poison-laced arrow fly. With a thud, it embedded itself in her brother's chest. So, her brother almost died and everyone thought she tried to kill him out of spite! To this day, she has never touched a bow. Yay trauma! Mwuahaha.

[TheJediSaint]

My Trevalyan's greatest fear?  Responsibility.

 

Boy did he get that in spades.

[CardinalSin90]

I guess my Lavellan's greatest fear is herself i.e falling to her darker side(extremely vengeful;ruling with an iron fist;domination lack of compassion)..this side showed up a bit during Solas's wisdom spirit quest..the anger that had flashed in that moment was overwhelming but she put it aside to set a better example.
She is trying her best to guide the Inquisition while fighting the darkness inside. She suffers occasionally from self doubt but wears a mask of confidence.
AND yeah had an angsty background of course. Too much pressure from clan members to live up to their expectations and then a traumatic encounter with humans

[Suketchi]

AND yeah had an angsty background of course. Too much pressure from clan members to live up to their expectations and then a traumatic encounter with humans

 

Traumatic encounter? Do tell. *grabs popcorn*

 

...well, unless it's one of those truamatic encounters that makes you cry a lot and feel a little sick in the stomach... *slowly puts away popcorn*

[Sable Rhapsody]

Basically, Solas takes the view people are people (including fade people lol) and doesn't identify himself by his ears being pointed. I think he actually says that sentence too at some point, come to think of it.

 

Trevelyan (or any other inquisitor) correctly picking up on that vibe he's giving off and saying so isn't some haughty crime, imo. Its observant.

 

The dialogue about the pointed ears is as follows (romance version):

 

Lavellan (flirt option): You're an admirable man.  Not many people know who they are the way you do

Solas: Thank you.  Both for saying that...and for seeing that.  Few in this world can see me, instead of just seeing a pair of pointed ears.

 

IMO the muddled dialogue about Briala is just an extension of Solas's conflicted feelings about modern elves.  He wants to help them, and I get the feeling that he feels at least partially responsible for the fall of Arlathan, and by extension, the elves' current predicament.  But they're so far removed from the elves he remembers that he has trouble identifying with them, and resents other people identifying HIM with them just because they share pointed ears.  He knows he's different, but he can't explain the difference to anyone else without setting off a bunch of red flags.

 

He does take the view that "people are people" to some extent, but he's also pretty judgmental of especially humans and qunari, and bags on Sera for being no more an elf than he is a horse.  Sera, who embodies the "people are people" view to a fault 

 

tl;dr: One egghead god with a bajillion different messy and conflicted opinions on the elves, and on races in general.

 

AND yeah had an angsty background of course.

 

I gave my Lavellan a happy, stable childhood and backstory because Dragon Age games have a way of putting my PCs through the wringer in awful ways.  And now I'm really glad I did.  She's got a good, solid 23 years of normalcy (for a Dalish scout, anyway) before everything goes pear-shaped.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

Since I somewhat self inserted for my male Lavellan, my Lavellan's biggest fear is insects. Specifically big cockroaches that can fly. *shudders*

 

If I see one in real life, I get insanely angry, Hulk out and try to just kill it with anything I have. The anger masks the fear for me. Used to be scared shiteless of flying cockroaches in my younger days and would just run away if they were around. 

 

So naturally in the Fade, with all those creepy crawlies (they were not cockroaches, but giant spiders, still...), my Lavellan was quite angry and picked aggressive options. 

[CardinalSin90]

Traumatic encounter? Do tell. *grabs popcorn*

...well, unless it's one of those truamatic encounters that makes you cry a lot and feel a little sick in the stomach... *slowly puts away popcorn*

Its super sad..no popcorns. Trigger warning

She had younger sister who was training to be a hunter. They had a happy family life. One fateful day she and her sister are out picking berries for the clan..a group of humans arrive.A hunting party with a drunk noble. They start calling them racial slurs..laughing how they will get to taste an exotic piece of flesh today.
Lavellan protects her sister and tells her to run away but she wont. Next thing she knows is she has been knocked out. Violence..attempted rape ensues..her sister is mortally wounded. And the group runs away.

She wakes up to see her sister dying telling her in her last breaths that it wasnt your fault.She hates herself for not being there. She hates herself for being weak. She swore vengenance.

Her keeper meanwhile remained passive and calm. She wouldnt budge to hunt down those humans because they don't want to antagonize them and have their clan attacked. She says her sister was brave and fulfilled her duty of keeping the Clan's first safe.

But at what cost? Was this all worth it
For the greater good Lavellan has to keep quiet..alone with her grief. She is still on the prowl for those humans. She is unable to forgive nor forget. She tries hard not to paint all humans with the same brush..she hates her Keeper for her inaction. She hates her clan members since no one would step up to do something about the situation. She hated them all for their cowardice.
Now with the power of the mark in her hands its so easy to slip up and punish all the people who are the reason for her pain. She still misses her sister dearly. She curses herself..whats the use of magic when she couldn't protect her loved ones.

She is one broken woman.

I think I went too deep in this one.

[drake2511]

My Lavellan greatest fear would be "losing her smile". She uses sarcasm and humour to hide her insecurities, she jokes at the most inappropriate times. It got her into trouble more than once, it's the reason she got her scar, but it keeps her going.

Losing her smile would literally mean losing hope, for her. The only ones who have seen her panicked are probably Cass, Varric and Solas during the prologue. She was scared like hell and she couldn't even hide it.

I have this headcanon that when they see the graves with their worst fears carved in, she laughs and looks at solas: "Seriously? 'Losing her smile'? Well, that's a shitty fear compared to yours." Solas remains silent but gently squeezes her hand.

[RynJ]

The dialogue about the pointed ears is as follows (romance version):

 

Lavellan (flirt option): You're an admirable man.  Not many people know who they are the way you do

Solas: Thank you.  Both for saying that...and for seeing that.  Few in this world can see me, instead of just seeing a pair of pointed ears.

 

IMO the muddled dialogue about Briala is just an extension of Solas's conflicted feelings about modern elves.  He wants to help them, and I get the feeling that he feels at least partially responsible for the fall of Arlathan, and by extension, the elves' current predicament.  But they're so far removed from the elves he remembers that he has trouble identifying with them, and resents other people identifying HIM with them just because they share pointed ears.  He knows he's different, but he can't explain the difference to anyone else without setting off a bunch of red flags.

 

He does take the view that "people are people" to some extent, but he's also pretty judgmental of especially humans and qunari, and bags on Sera for being no more an elf than he is a horse.  Sera, who embodies the "people are people" view to a fault 

 

tl;dr: One egghead god with a bajillion different messy and conflicted opinions on the elves, and on races in general.

 

 

 

I gave my Lavellan a happy, stable childhood and backstory because Dragon Age games have a way of putting my PCs through the wringer in awful ways.  And now I'm really glad I did.  She's got a good, solid 23 years of normalcy (for a Dalish scout, anyway) before everything goes pear-shaped.

 

Hmm, I actually wonder at the extent in which Sera embodies the "people are people" view. She's incredibly judgmental herself, thinking back on interactions with her. Also, considering Sera rejects her own "elfness", his statement isn't really that far off, either. But this thread isn't about Sera so I won't talk about it further.

 

My view of Solas is that he's very open-minded about the individual but tends to have his eyes glaze over when it comes to big groups in general. He decides his opinion, and those he respects become the exceptions to those opinions. It actually makes me wonder why open mindedness was said to be a defining trait for him, considering he doesn't have such an open mind in a lot of cases. Except when it comes to the Fade and spirits but, knowing who he is, that may be more straight up firsthand knowledge than him being open-minded to possibilities without certainty.

 

And yet for how judgmental he is of certain races, it actually doesn't take a lot of time for him to come to respect someone who isn't an elf. He likes Cassandra almost right away from what we can tell, for example. Blackwall and Varric grow on him quickly too. And the Inquisitor, of course. I also suspect that he liked Iron Bull all along (since Bull is super intelligent) but just plain refused to have any friendship with him while he was following the Qun, which Solas despises. He was super quick to warm up to Bull after the decision to save the Chargers because the Qun was no longer an issue! I just wonder how many "exceptions" the guy has to encounter before he decides that he was wrong about modern races. 

 

Though I think, to an extent, he just doesn't want to come to that conclusion. Which is worrisome for what it might imply.

[Sable Rhapsody]

My Lavellan greatest fear would be "losing her smile". She uses sarcasm and humour to hide her insecurities, she jokes at the most inappropriate times. It got her into trouble more than once, it's the reason she got her scar, but it keeps her going.

 

She, Sarcastic!Hawke, Dorian, Zev, and Varric can found the "Always Look on the Bright Side of Death" club 

 

 

I just wonder how many "exceptions" the guy has to encounter before he decides that he was wrong about modern races. 

 

Though I think, to an extent, he just doesn't want to come to that conclusion. Which is worrisome for what it might imply.

 

It reminds me of Cole's banter with him about Lavellan.  "It changes everything, but it can't."  I think Solas feels that accepting modern Thedas (and especially the modern elves), means giving up on the past, on what he thinks the People should be.  What Solas thinks is best for Thedas and what most normal sane people think is best for Thedas are really, REALLY not the same thing.

[Suketchi]

Its super sad..no popcorns. Trigger warning

She had younger sister who was training to be a hunter. They had a happy family life. One fateful day she and her sister are out picking berries for the clan..a group of humans arrive.A hunting party with a drunk noble. They start calling them racial slurs..laughing how they will get to taste an exotic piece of flesh today.
Lavellan protects her sister and tells her to run away but she wont. Next thing she knows is she has been knocked out. Violence..attempted rape ensues..her sister is mortally wounded. And the group runs away.

She wakes up to see her sister dying telling her in her last breaths that it wasnt your fault.She hates herself for not being there. She hates herself for being weak. She swore vengenance.

Her keeper meanwhile remained passive and calm. She wouldnt budge to hunt down those humans because they don't want to antagonize them and have their clan attacked. She says her sister was brave and fulfilled her duty of keeping the Clan's first safe.

But at what cost? Was this all worth it
For the greater good Lavellan has to keep quiet..alone with her grief. She is still on the prowl for those humans. She is unable to forgive nor forget. She tries hard not to paint all humans with the same brush..she hates her Keeper for her inaction. She hates her clan members since no one would step up to do something about the situation. She hated them all for their cowardice.
Now with the power of the mark in her hands its so easy to slip up and punish all the people who are the reason for her pain. She still misses her sister dearly. She curses herself..whats the use of magic when she couldn't protect her loved ones.

She is one broken woman.

I think I went too deep in this one.

 

F**k. Sibling trauma. Sibling traumas kill me. I keep seeing my little sister's face there...and...and... *sobs in pillow indefinitely* IT HURTS

 

 

As the oldest of four, I think this is the absolute worst thing a Lavellan could experience. I need to hug her. 

[HurricaneGinger]

Well, if everyone's going to share their sad Lavellan backstories...XD

 

I tried so hard to give Terrwyn a happy story, but my brain kept going "lol nope." Evil brain.

 

Okay I just tried to write it all out just now and I can't. That will have to be a tumblr post. XD Saved by bedtime. XD

[CardinalSin90]

F**k. Sibling trauma. Sibling traumas kill me. I keep seeing my little sister's face there...and...and... *sobs in pillow indefinitely* IT HURTS

 

 

As the oldest of four, I think this is the absolute worst thing a Lavellan could experience. I need to hug her. 

 

I have a younger sister too who I absolutely love and adore. Her birthday is coming up next week and I havent decided on a present yet. 

 

That aside its even more crucial Solas stops whatever he is doing and comes back to Lavellan 

 

My Dalish Scout on the other hand has a happy childhood with her looking up to her elder brother who is the Keeper's first. Her only wish was that she could also wield magic like him. He would often entertain her with stories of spirits and demons :3 She is definitely more stronger than Mage Lavellan

[Suketchi]

The dialogue about the pointed ears is as follows (romance version):

 

Lavellan (flirt option): You're an admirable man.  Not many people know who they are the way you do

Solas: Thank you.  Both for saying that...and for seeing that.  Few in this world can see me, instead of just seeing a pair of pointed ears.

 

IMO the muddled dialogue about Briala is just an extension of Solas's conflicted feelings about modern elves.  He wants to help them, and I get the feeling that he feels at least partially responsible for the fall of Arlathan, and by extension, the elves' current predicament.  But they're so far removed from the elves he remembers that he has trouble identifying with them, and resents other people identifying HIM with them just because they share pointed ears.  He knows he's different, but he can't explain the difference to anyone else without setting off a bunch of red flags.

 

He does take the view that "people are people" to some extent, but he's also pretty judgmental of especially humans and qunari, and bags on Sera for being no more an elf than he is a horse.  Sera, who embodies the "people are people" view to a fault 

 

tl;dr: One egghead god with a bajillion different messy and conflicted opinions on the elves, and on races in general.

 

I have an opinion on this topic which I would like to be let known. However, I am FAR too sleepy to write out a legible conjecture. Therefore, I shall prepare my two-cents for fifty or so pages into the future. Be afraid.

[Siha]

Hmm... You should probably stay away from the Inquisition's surgeon then. Science is great and all but you can't solve everything with bloodletting. 

Of course you can. Let enough blood and all that person's problems are solved.

[RynJ]

Haha if we're talking depressing backgrounds, I played with the idea of giving Cari a sad background too. But really, my Cousland and Hawke already took the "good grief our lives suck" prizes. Their lives really did suck. A lot. I figured at least one of my canon heroes should have a somewhat stable background. It fits that it's my Inquisitor, considering she loses her love and has a heck of an enormous weight on her shoulders in DAI. Moreso than Hawke or the Warden. She has no particularly traumatic experiences in her childhood, apart from typical prejudice in some encounters with humans but nothing scarring.

 

The saddest it gets, I guess, is that I headcanon that she has no siblings, her father died before she could remember him and her mother died of an illness when she was around 6. So technically she's an "orphan" but the rest of her clan is like her family anyways and she was so young when those things happened that the resulting pain is really dull unless she thinks too hard about it. I wanted her to not have actual immediate family connections within her clan but didn't want the angst of losing a parent/sibling any time close to the beginning of DAI. And I made sure her clan survived! As tempting as it would be to kill them off if we ever get a DLC with the companions commenting on it, finally, I want her family to still be alive and kicking. Poor girl has enough on her plate (thanks in part to a certain elf).

[CapricornSun]

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My Dalish Scout on the other hand has a happy childhood with her looking up to her elder brother who is the Keeper's first. Her only wish was that she could also wield magic like him. He would often entertain her with stories of spirits and demons :3 She is definitely more stronger than Mage Lavellan

 

Sounds almost like my Lavellan. She had a happy childhood as well with a twin brother who is also the Keeper's first, except she is more fascinated with magic than actually wishing she had magic (she doesn't trust herself to wield that kind of power).  Her brother would reiterate to her stories that Keeper Deshana told him. Also, I imagine my Lavellan had an admirer back in the clan, a Dalish warrior who wished for her hand in marriage. But she wasn't really interested in settling down just yet and so when Keeper Deshana planned on sending someone to spy on the conclave, she volunteered. She just wanted something exciting to do in her life before marriage happened. You could imagine how that turned out. 

 

I have to say, when it comes to my Mahariel, Hawke, and Lavellan, I think my Lavellan generally has the happiest childhood.

[CapricornSun]

*ahem* So Jakface tweeted a Solas collage. That carton of eggs... 

 

Source: https://twitter.com/...715815742238721

[Janic99]

This exact thing happened to me. Literally. Exact.

me too XD

[KarateKats]

I need more Solas fanfiction. Maybe some Abelas too... Someone feed my addiction and hook me up please!

[Janic99]

There's at least 3 more of us make-up loving ladies here. We were chatting about make-up during Rabbit's art stream last night.

Ah damn it! I missed the make up talk hahah

[Addai]

IMO the muddled dialogue about Briala is just an extension of Solas's conflicted feelings about modern elves.  He wants to help them, and I get the feeling that he feels at least partially responsible for the fall of Arlathan, and by extension, the elves' current predicament.  But they're so far removed from the elves he remembers that he has trouble identifying with them, and resents other people identifying HIM with them just because they share pointed ears.  He knows he's different, but he can't explain the difference to anyone else without setting off a bunch of red flags.
 
He does take the view that "people are people" to some extent, but he's also pretty judgmental of especially humans and qunari, and bags on Sera for being no more an elf than he is a horse.  Sera, who embodies the "people are people" view to a fault 
 
tl;dr: One egghead god with a bajillion different messy and conflicted opinions on the elves, and on races in general.

Yeah, I get all that, and have made the same argument to others, but I have to admit the whole exchange still puzzles and bothers me.

[Sandalath]

While I don't think Solas is the Black City, you DID remind me of a screen shot I took at that Emerald Knights temple...

 

That Black City Mural/ Carpet has a larger golden circle encircling another, as does this one. I think someone stated that Thedas also had two moons?

This mural might be of Thedas. My only question is whether THE FADE or THEDAS is at the center. The Black City Mural/ Carpet seems to hint that.. the Fade is at the center. And that physical Thedas encloses it. And there's either moon on each side.

So, if the Fade is at the center and Thedas encompasses it...where is the Void? The whole wall? (all around?) or could the center be the void/abyss? After all, darkspawn come from the deep, they might even be called the pillars of the earth, old gods are trapped in there, that's where tevinters sent Arlathan.

 

(Or is the Void the center of the Fade, where the Black City is?)

(Or have I had too much coffee...?)

 

 

Also on the matter of the six eyes around the Black city in Solas' fresco, since he's painting the story as it's happening, it could be the six of them in the fade (they were six, right? 4 companions, Hawke and company) looking at the Black city.

 

Edit: according to this here link: http://knight-enchan...orts-dragon-age

the eyes are Nightmare's eyes.

[jawsisinmywc]

I need more Solas fanfiction. Maybe some Abelas too... Someone feed my addiction and hook me up please!

Where is Birdy? She always finds Solavellan fanfic gems.