Unrelated question; when you're first talking to Solas as an elf and you both get a bit defensive about Elven culture, you have the option to say something along the lines of "if my people have wronged you I would correct that" or something to that effect, but you say something in Elven first. Do we know what it translates to?
I've looked at the Wiki and it doesn't seem to mention that phrase at all.
Ir abelas, hahren .... I'm sorry, elder. Or something to that effect.
Although elder might not be the best translation for hahren.
Ah, I see what you mean. Well, I don't do lineart, for one. And you've seen my sketches, they are very messy, lol. The thing is I think it helps me to keep the movement natural. And I just paint over it on a new layer. Basically, the underpainting is underneath the sketch layer, and the rest of the refining work is on top.
Here, I'll better exemplify with this process for a commission piece I've done.
Sketch layer (as I said, messy rough sketch, lol), getting down composition and basic form
Underpainting layer (this goes beneath the sketch layer) is for figuring out some color palette. I also choose darker colors at this stage and gradually light up the piece. (having trouble finding the colors for Lavellan and Solas, lol)
Refining layer(s) Just as the name implies, adding details and color gradually, painting over the sketch and underpainting layers. Trying to keep in mind a light source and thinking about things in 3D.
The last stage is more refining and details. I zoom in more at this stage (in the first stages try to work zoomed out, so you get a better understanding of shapes and lighting).This stage is also reserved for lighting and final effects and touches, bringing out contrast and colors, etc.
Omg that is so amazing o.o
Unrelated question; when you're first talking to Solas as an elf and you both get a bit defensive about Elven culture, you have the option to say something along the lines of "if my people have wronged you I would correct that" or something to that effect, but you say something in Elven first. Do we know what it translates to?
I've looked at the Wiki and it doesn't seem to mention that phrase at all.
"Ir abelas, Hahren"
"I am sorry, my elder"
I'm sure there's a lore expert who has a better translation here, though.
ninja'd of course 
*heavy breathing*
*heavy breathing*
Next time, take the elevator and not the stairs.
Next time, take the elevator and not the stairs.
If I saw all this art while waiting for a commission, I'd still be breathing heavily, lol 
Amazing and excited.
Side note, as a nerd of all things lovecraftian or lovecraft related (this isn't his work, but considered in the same universe) This is awesome:
http://forum.bioware...he-yellow-sign/
I hope you'll join Rabbit's Google Hangouts chat tomorrow.
More arts is good. More silly arts is even better. Not sure if you've seen Coryflora and Artecta, but those came out of the art chat last weekend.
Oh man, I would so love to! 
But I can't promise anything at the moment, I'll be out tomorrow for a friends birthday and I don't know when I'll be home, lol.
And where, what? I haven't seen them! Links, please? :>
Oh my god. I love you.
Thank you! That's a huge compliment. A disproportionate number of my favorite illustrators had their hay-day in the 1960s, so I really, really appreciate the comparison.
Art style stuff in the spoiler. I can't blatantly assume you guys want my art-life story. That belongs in a fanart thread. Besides, we have an egg head to talk about!
Spoiler
SO BACK ON TOPIC... Solas. I actually really do want the buddy cop Abelas + Solas/ or Lavellan DLC through the deep roads.
On that note, did you guys notice how there were absolutely no shrieks in this game? That's what elves become as Darkspawn and it was just weird that all we saw were genlocks and hurlocks. They were certainly more prevalent in DA:O (which makes sense, there being a blight and all), but their complete absence felt rather odd.
No ogres either. I thought for sure that ancient Tevinter prison, when we heard the loud noises and my char said, What's that?! ... I was so sure that would be an ogre. And so disappointed when it turned out to be a giant.
SO BACK ON TOPIC... Solas. I actually really do want the buddy cop Abelas + Solas/ or Lavellan DLC through the deep roads.
On that note, did you guys notice how there were absolutely no shrieks in this game? That's what elves become as Darkspawn and it was just weird that all we saw were genlocks and hurlocks. They were certainly more prevalent in DA:O (which makes sense, there being a blight and all), but their complete absence felt rather odd.
We didn't get ogres either. I take it as the devs saying "**** you, you already got rhinos and big bears and these red templar dudes n ****!" They weren't the focus, so there wasn't really much reason to make them so varied when we had sooo many new enemies n' junk.
And yes I agree you are very skilled.... even if you did use said skills against me That style was perfect for making creepy Coryflora pics. What other stuff do you make when not picking on defenseless bearded gods?
I don't think there were any shrieks in DA2 either. And if there were Ogres in DA:I, I don't remember them. Maybe the Ogres and Shrieks dislike the sunlight even more than the rest.
Thank you! That's a huge compliment. A disproportionate number of my favorite illustrators had their hay-day in the 1960s, so I really, really appreciate the comparison.
Art style stuff in the spoiler. I can't blatantly assume you guys want my art-life story. That belongs in a fanart thread. Besides, we have an egg head to talk about!
Spoiler
SO BACK ON TOPIC... Solas. I actually really do want the buddy cop Abelas + Solas/ or Lavellan DLC through the deep roads.
On that note, did you guys notice how there were absolutely no shrieks in this game? That's what elves become as Darkspawn and it was just weird that all we saw were genlocks and hurlocks. They were certainly more prevalent in DA:O (which makes sense, there being a blight and all), but their complete absence felt rather odd.
Guest_Faerunner_*
We didn't get ogres either. I take it as the devs saying "**** you, you already got rhinos and big bears and these red templar dudes n ****!" They weren't the focus, so there wasn't really much reason to make them so varied when we had sooo many new enemies n' junk.
And yes I agree you are very skilled.... even if you did use said skills against me
Isn't it stated though that ogres only appear during a Blight?
Maybe it's similar for shrieks? Even in games where shrieks were present, they weren't that common.
Granted, the Father of All Darkspawn is running around, but he was probably too focused on rounding up mages and Templars and Grey Wardens than finding regular darkspawn minions. The ones we encounter seem like regular stragglers during non-Blights.
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Isn't it stated though that ogres only appear during a Blight?
Maybe it's similar for shrieks? Even in games where shrieks were present, they weren't that common.
Granted, the Father of All Darkspawn is running around, but he was probably too focused on rounding up mages and Templars and Grey Wardens than finding regular darkspawn minions. The ones we encounter seem like regular stragglers during non-Blights.
True I think it did say that. Why the hell would that be though. And if so, that'd be enough to prove Loghain wrong early on.
YEAH! That was such a huge bummer. Not that I mind fighting giants - I have more fun (better said... panic) fighting three of them at a time in the Emerald Graves with five brontos than I do bunny hopping dragons. But I NEED TO KNOW what happened to the Ogres. They can't have just up and vanished!
It makes me wonder if the proportion of Darkspawn races/ species corresponds to the race they fight the most. Which makes sense, elven populatin has been on the decline since the fall of Arlathan and Ogres were a result of a tiny Kossith colony in the Korcari Wilds that was promptly abandoned. But all the same, you've got Broodmothers pumping out darkspawn - they're not reliant upon race+taint=darkspawn to fill their ranks.
We shall not speak of the Emerald Graves! Where fighting one giant becomes two .. and a bronto ... and another bronto .. and another bronto ... and sweet Maker another giant ... and another bronto ... and oh ffs just kill me now! ....
True I think it did say that. Why the hell would that be though. And if so, that'd be enough to prove Loghain wrong early on.
I believe the codex for ogres in DAO does say they only show up during a Blight. But that is an in game codex and we know they can be not entirely accurate. So who knows.
Ah, I see what you mean. Well, I don't do lineart, for one. And you've seen my sketches, they are very messy, lol. The thing is I think it helps me to keep the movement natural. And I just paint over it on a new layer. Basically, the underpainting is underneath the sketch layer, and the rest of the refining work is on top.
Here, I'll better exemplify with this process for a commission piece I've done.
Sketch layer (as I said, messy rough sketch, lol), getting down composition and basic form
Underpainting layer (this goes beneath the sketch layer) is for figuring out some color palette. I also choose darker colors at this stage and gradually light up the piece. (having trouble finding the colors for Lavellan and Solas, lol)
Refining layer(s) Just as the name implies, adding details and color gradually, painting over the sketch and underpainting layers. Trying to keep in mind a light source and thinking about things in 3D.
The last stage is more refining and details. I zoom in more at this stage (in the first stages try to work zoomed out, so you get a better understanding of shapes and lighting).This stage is also reserved for lighting and final effects and touches, bringing out contrast and colors, etc.
Wow, thanks so much You're a treasure!
I think I see the mistakes I keep making, which probably increase the time it takes me to make something by 100% or so lol XD I have to readjust my layers order I will see where that gets me in the next days 
Thanks for showing me (or us, really xD) all these steps
Now to get back on topic.. here you guys.. have a smooching Solas.
He's like "come to papa"
Oh man, I would so love to!
And where, what? I haven't seen them! Links, please? :>
All of the crazy is in the Tumblr that Liz made. http://slayerofkillabee.tumblr.com/
<edit> Also, the art chat ending up going from 3pm CST to... 2-3 AM CST. There will probably still be people when you pop in.
Here are Coryflora and Artecta specifically:
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True I think it did say that. Why the hell would that be though. And if so, that'd be enough to prove Loghain wrong early on.
I don't know, but my best guess is there are more genlocks and hurlocks because the darkspawn come into contact mostly with dwarves and humans. Dwarves because they live underground and fight the darkspawn constantly. Humans probably because they're the most numerous of the surface races, and so have the sheer numbers for the darkspawn to corrupt.
The Qunari are not as numerous, and mostly live far north and weast. Since they're so few, so far out of the way, and so physically big, tall, and imposing, they're probably considered too much of a hassle to try to fight, capture, and turn for most mindless darkspawn raid parties. During a Blight, the darkspawn have the eerily competent Archdemon telling them what to do, so the Archdemon probably tells them "Go capture those giants and taint them so we'll have some muscle in our ranks. Yes, I know they're bigger than you and they pack a wallop. Listen to my strategy: this is how you take them down."
As for elves? I don't know. The Dalish are very adept survivors in the woods, and elves in human societies are mostly servants and laborers who remain in the city alienages, or hang back cleaning the trade caravans, polishing armor in army camps, and warming seats while their human masters do important things. Maybe their line of work doesn't leave them vulnerable to encountering darkspawn, which in turn don't seek them out until an intelligent mind tells them to hunt them down during a Blight.
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