Also he kind of corrects the Herald's pronunciation.
I have a headcanon of him teaching her elven phrases, correcting the pronunciation of the words she does know. He wants so badly to teach her more, to pass their lost tongue on to her. But he knows that if he does, he's only giving her tools that she could use to discover the truth. So he always holds back a little, keeping her from true mastery of the elven language, imagining what it might sound like in her voice.
I have a headcanon of him teaching her elven phrases, correcting the pronunciation of the words she does know. He wants so badly to teach her more, to pass their lost tongue on to her. But he knows that if he does, he's only giving her tools that she could use to discover the truth. So he always holds back a little, keeping her from true mastery of the elven language, imagining what it might sound like in her voice.
Headcanon accepted! Especially since he butchers his translations of ancient elven too, like at the Solasan temple.
Agreement. Cousland and the female City Elf origin had THE MOST motivation for me personally. I think that may have been the issue in DA:I with a protagonist who begins the game with a memory lapse whose life before this is limited to war table missions you don't even get to until 3 hours later. You're suddenly thrust into the action of the plot that honestly isn't about you. Yeah sure, the sky is falling, but that's isn't a personal motivation. That's a Cassandra will kill me if I don't and I want to live situation. "I want to live" alone isn't good enough.
Cousland is a solid "I want to live so I can achieve retribution for my family and destroy the man who betrayed us and took our lands."
Tabris is a solid "I need to get the hell out of here so my entire alienage isn't purged, but I'll be damned if I let this man live after raping my beloved cousin and almost me next. His family WILL pay for destroying my family and I'll see it through. On the outside, as a warden where I am more than my ears."
I think what made Corypheus a sub-standard villain were a couple things:
1) He was too soundly beaten too frequently. The loss of Haven wasn't enough. Hell, it would've meant more to me had I proved EACH TIME unable to save the Townspeople no matter how hard I tried. We were just that outnumbered by Coryflora.
2) He needed a WAY better plan of defeating Celine, or it shouldn't have been part of his plans at all. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the Halamshiral sequence, but I feel like that conflict existed without Coryflora's influence entirely. Hell, if that whole sequence happened and THEN there was an ambush in the palace by Corypheus' forces and the palace is destroyed, but your choice for the crown survives? That'd be awwweeeesome.
Because you see he has power. He can thwart your efforts as you thwart his. And while you've succeeded in creating an alliance, your ally is weaker than before because the villain reacted to your pro-activity.
3) His lack of screentime and the lack of plot reveal. In fact, there's a stunning LACK of plot reveal. I could summarize the big **** we learn from DA:I right here: Flemeth is Mythal. Morrigan's mom is an elven god and she meant to pass on power, not force her into possession. Mythal was betrayed. The Elves destroyed themselves from the inside and vallaslin are slave markings. They didn't have roads because Eluvians. Elves are pretty much responsible for Red Crossing which started the Exalted March on the Dales because of a paranoid sister. The Elven Pantheon was batsh*t and backstabs galore. Fen'Harel is awake. The Magisters were for real but the Golden City was Black before they got there. The Wardens are dummer than we thought. Oh and.. tranquility was originally to bind seekers to spirits of faith. Whoops. Also, Titans are a thing.
See all that lore reveal? See how Corypheus only reveals one of them? He literally offers nothing other than to act as the antagonist on your quest to acquire the orb McGuffin that gets destroyed anyway. Maybe if you HAD gotten the orb and more stuff got revealed it would've felt like a more worthwhile fight... But you don't. Your primary quest/ objective amounts in absolutely nothing.
Also, reiterating that I DO love this game. I really do. Cornyflora was just about as intimidating as a bejeweled traffic cone.
Or the highest, most nasal, "I will not suffer a rival, even an unwitting one! SNEEEE"
Seriously, his fake archdemon dragon was more terrifying than he was. And that thing didn't even HAVE lines.
Lavellan: Wait a minute, Dorian. What are you talking about? What happens to us in the future? Do we become assholes or something?Dorian: No, no, no, no, no, Inquisitor, both you and Solas turn out fine. It's your kids, something has got to be done about your kids! Is there anyone at all opposed to this DLC? Also if anyone wants to draw Dorian in Doc's Back To The Future Part II getup that would be magnificent. Lizasaurus, I know how fast you can make good work happen.
I was always a little sad that no one used thar creepy basement library for anything. Then again... might be a good place to headcanon some Solavellan sexcapades... no? Just me, then?It's actually one of my headcanons for my Lavellan that Skyhold has an Arcane club consisting of the Inquisitor, Solas, Dagna, Dorian, Cole, (anybody else welcome, but mostly people are too terrified or awed to attend) who meet up every week in that creepy basement library just to geek out over magic.
I have a similar headcanon, where he abesntmindedly slips into ancient elven without even thinking but then when she doesn't respond because she doesn't understand, he undergoes the process of teaching her... and then there is a lot of adorable flirting in elven going on under everyone's noses and they don't even know it, but really everyone kind of knows because... body language.I have a headcanon of him teaching her elven phrases, correcting the pronunciation of the words she does know. He wants so badly to teach her more, to pass their lost tongue on to her. But he knows that if he does, he's only giving her tools that she could use to discover the truth. So he always holds back a little, keeping her from true mastery of the elven language, imagining what it might sound like in her voice.
I have a similar headcanon, where he abesntmindedly slips into ancient elven without even thinking but then when she doesn't respond because she doesn't understand, he undergoes the process of teaching her... and then there is a lot of adorable flirting in elven going on under everyone's noses and they don't even know it, but really everyone kind of knows because... body language.
At least for Solas and my Lavellan, their relationship is Skyhold's worst kept secret. I mean, she basically followed him around like a puppy at Haven, and he went with her everywhere. They're pretty circumspect about it, but the body language is painfully obvious. As is the change in Solas's voice whenever he talks to her.
I have a headcanon of him teaching her elven phrases, correcting the pronunciation of the words she does know. He wants so badly to teach her more, to pass their lost tongue on to her. But he knows that if he does, he's only giving her tools that she could use to discover the truth. So he always holds back a little, keeping her from true mastery of the elven language, imagining what it might sound like in her voice.
That's...actually kind of hot!
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I was always a little sad that no one used thar creepy basement library for anything. Then again... might be a good place to headcanon some Solavellan sexcapades... no? Just me, then?
I have a similar headcanon, where he abesntmindedly slips into ancient elven without even thinking but then when she doesn't respond because she doesn't understand, he undergoes the process of teaching her... and then there is a lot of adorable flirting in elven going on under everyone's noses and they don't even know it, but really everyone kind of knows because... body language.
There's this prompt on the kinkmeme I'm certainly not checking out every day to see if it's already been filled: http://dragonage-kin...14209#t48514209
And this flirting and
At least for Solas and my Lavellan, their relationship is Skyhold's worst kept secret. I mean, she basically followed him around like a puppy at Haven, and he went with her everywhere. They're pretty circumspect about it, but the body language is painfully obvious. As is the change in Solas's voice whenever he talks to her.
THE ADORBS
Wait, wait. Where is this basement library and more importantly, how have I not found it in 150 hours of playtime?
Wait, wait. Where is this basement library and more importantly, how have I not found it in 150 hours of playtime?
Go through the door that leads to Josie's office, but instead go through the door directly to your left. Keep going through to the first door ahead, and there's the private library. It needs some serious dusting.
So, I was reading through the codex's tonight and came across one a Malvernis. It definitely sounds like a supposed forgotten one or something along those lines. And was about the three signs?! Also it could explain the purpose of the dwarven ruins on the surface...
EDIT: Or perhaps he is the 3rd member of the the forbidden ones!
http://dragonage.wik.../wiki/Malvernis
Wait, wait. Where is this basement library and more importantly, how have I not found it in 150 hours of playtime?
Door to Josephine's office, take a left immediately after. Stairs head down to the basement library. The other entrance is through the kitchen.
Go through the door that leads to Josie's office, but instead go through the door directly to your left. Keep going through to the first door ahead, and there's the private library. It needs some serious dusting.
There's this prompt on the kinkmeme I'm certainly not checking out every day to see if it's already been filled: http://dragonage-kin...14209#t48514209
I might have to take a crack at this once I've made a bit more progress in the current fic.
You know, random thought: I wonder how Solas and Dagna would get along? I don't know why, but I think it would be adorable. Or maybe she'd figure him out and he'd avoid her. XD
lol And now I'm picturing Dagna wanting to take samples... XD And Fen'Harel backing away slowly.
Okay, still trying to catch up.
All that talk about the broodmothers has left me scarred for the remaining years of my life. Also lost all my appetite for the next 394904953 years.
You know, random thought: I wonder how Solas and Dagna would get along? I don't know why, but I think it would be adorable. Or maybe she'd figure him out and he'd avoid her. XD
I'm guessing their meeting would be somewhere along these lines? XD
Ever since I've finished the game and seen the end of Corypheus, I've been half afraid that the Inquisitor, in a moment of snarky Take That! dailogue, actually gave Corypheus exactly what he wanted. He's in the Fade now, physically. Albeit, it is likely in very small pieces, but still.
What if the process didn't kill him?
Even better, what if you left a Warden in the Fade to fight the Nightmare? And the "will likely die" bit turns out to not have been likely enough. Cory now has a ready, physical host in the Fade.
Maybe this isn't the last we've seen of him.
No need to worry about that, we destroyed his "foci", the dragon, which got rid of that ability of his.
-Spoilery-
Does anyone know if there is a mod (in the making) allowing us to play with Solas after beating the game?
No need to worry about that, we destroyed his "foci", the dragon, which got rid of that ability of his.
Which reminds me. Archdemons normally jump bodies when they die and there's no wardens around. Otherwise, they're drawn to the warden that kills them and then people assume it is dead.
Corypheus had the same ability obviously, except he not only didn't "die", he treated wardens as common darkspawn. He's more powerful than an archdemon....
Why? Why do the same rules not apply to him, and doesn't this pretty much prove that rule of a soul cancels out a soul incorrect? Why would an actual god be cancelled out by a warden's weak ass soul, but not a magister's?
First of all, are we even assuming that what he has as a magister turned Darkspawn even is a soul? Though technically I think he'd be a ghoul, not a darkspawn.
edit: My first guess is, he received a bigger dose of the taint from the black city, and thus, he is more powerful than they, as he has more of their god mojo. So his soul is more... forceful.
Hi!
I've been lurking around for some time now and I have just finished my first playthrough DA:I and, OMG, I need want to join this thread so full of Solas, and speculation, and Solas, and Dragon Age fans, and Solas.
The first thing I must say is:
The second thing is: Woah, such an amazing game and such interesting characters. Solas in particular is so well written and the romance with him felt so sad but beautiful at the same time...
I still have a lot of questions about him, even knowing who he really is. I REALLY hope we get to see more of him in coming DLCs or games.
And I am sure it has been already discussed, but I cannot read all the 2644 pages 
: Do you think Solas is somehow like Flemeth? I mean, "just" an apostate elf with a powerful soul inside of him, or is he is just Fen'Harel, that meaning he is an eternal elf? I think there's evindence for both ideas such as he feeling genuinely surprised finding new elven ruins and learning new things or casting his own coat's tail on fire [party banter with Vivienne], things I feel unlikely in a really old elf, but at the same time he shows a knowledge and makes references to the past that makes him appear to be really old... I don't know what to thing, but it would be nice to read your opinions!
And sorry for my mistakes; English is not my mother tongue.
Ah, I see what you mean. Well, I don't do lineart, for one. And you've seen my sketches, they are very messy, lol. The thing is I think it helps me to keep the movement natural. And I just paint over it on a new layer. Basically, the underpainting is underneath the sketch layer, and the rest of the refining work is on top.
Here, I'll better exemplify with this process for a commission piece I've done.
Sketch layer (as I said, messy rough sketch, lol), getting down composition and basic form
Underpainting layer (this goes beneath the sketch layer) is for figuring out some color palette. I also choose darker colors at this stage and gradually light up the piece. (having trouble finding the colors for Lavellan and Solas, lol)
Refining layer(s) Just as the name implies, adding details and color gradually, painting over the sketch and underpainting layers. Trying to keep in mind a light source and thinking about things in 3D.
The last stage is more refining and details. I zoom in more at this stage (in the first stages try to work zoomed out, so you get a better understanding of shapes and lighting).This stage is also reserved for lighting and final effects and touches, bringing out contrast and colors, etc.
Awesome, art is awesome... I really love how you do hands Rel, hands are very tricky...
I want to go back in time and slap your adviser upside the head.
Latin is life.
Being someone who is dedicating her life to something like "medieval literature" (6 years of grad school fun/you must know at least three other language besides English/and do other stuff/also write articles and teach), I get twitchy when people say things like "Latin is useless." Which was said TO MY FACE recently when I was on a plane. Plane man did not know what I studied, and he couldn't escape, so I got to give him a good talking to about how and why he is wrong. (Also, the fact that people use "utility" to denigrate art and humanities fields makes me angry. And then I think about how state universities are gutting language programs and I die inside). DIE.Anyhoo, this seemed apropos:From Ovid's Metamorphoses--the premier epic on the confrontation of the mortal and the divine.Met 14.765-81Haec ubi nequiquam formae deus aptus aniliedidit, in iuvenem rediit et anilia demitinstrumenta sibi talisque apparuit illi,qualis ubi oppositas nitidissima solis imagoevicit nubes nullaque obstante reluxit,vimque parat: sed vi non est opus, inque figuracapta dei nymphe est et mutua vulnera sensit.("When the god in the form of age had thus pleaded his cause in vain, he returned to his youthful form, put off the old woman's trappings, and stood revealed to the maiden as when the sun's most beaming face has conquered the opposing clouds and shines out with nothing to dim his radiance. He was all ready to force her will, but no force was necessary; and the nymph, smitten by the beauty of the god, felt an answering passion.")Sidenote: What is translated as "passion," "vulnera" can also mean wound. Ovid uses "vulnera" to mean wound in a particularly painful episode dealing with Marsyas and Apollo. It is an interesting nuance that gets lost in translation.The translation is from the Loeb edition (you can also find it easily via the Perseus website)And now I need to go commune with Bacchus and some boxed wine.
Let me go one better:
Odi et amo. Quare id faciam, fortasse requiris?
nescio, sed fieri sentio et excrucior.
I loath, I love. How can you do such a thing you may ask?
I know not, but those are my feelings and I am in torment...
Catullus. Simple two lines. It slays.
[Yeah, and that's my own clumsy translation...]
Awesome, art is awesome... I really love how you do hands Rel, hands are very tricky...
Nggh, you are too sweet, thank you!!! 
I HATE HANDS WITH A FIERY PASSION, I'd be dead without references. So very tricky indeed.
Hi!
I've been lurking around for some time now and I have just finished my first playthrough DA:I and, OMG, I
needwant to join this thread so full of Solas, and speculation, and Solas, and Dragon Age fans, and Solas.
The first thing I must say is:
The second thing is: Woah, such an amazing game and such interesting characters. Solas in particular is so well written and the romance with him felt so sad but beautiful at the same time...
I still have a lot of questions about him, even knowing who he really is. I REALLY hope we get to see more of him in coming DLCs or games.
And I am sure it has been already discussed, but I cannot read all the 2644 pages
And sorry for my mistakes; English is not my mother tongue.
Buahaha! Another convert! Welcome to the blanket fort!
I think the consensus is that Solas is just Fen'Harel, who woke up from a 1000-year slumber and isn't Fen'Harel's soul in another elves body. That he is surprised that those elven ruins are there I think is more due to him being pleased that the temple of Mythal along with the ancient elves in it survived. In regards to the other temples scattered around: I think it is unlikely that every elven god had seen every temple that was erected to the other elven gods back in the day, so it would be expected that Solas is impressed when seeing some of the temples of i.e. Dirthamen or Sylaise.
I agree. I was really disappointed by him. I think it's mostly because it felt like he was so incompetent. Though technically the most powerful DA villain so far, I think, there was nothing intimidating about him. At least in my opinion. I never felt the sense of urgency to stop him that I probably should have. I guess being able to screw around in the Hinterlands for hours created that effect.
You know who would make an awesome villain (even if I don't want it to happen)? Solas.
Hahhaha, that gif.
1. I expected Fiona to be a....I don't know...grander character. I mean this is a pretty important person in these stories. I just felt she was totally meh. She wasn't written as someone who seemed capable of commanding or leading anything.
2. She seemed different than the books, which happens , but still.
3. Her outfit was stupid.
4. She is a terrible mother and a terrible leader to sell the mages into slavery. TEVINTER SLAVERY.
I just wanted to be like listen. I run the mages now, go away.
Yes, I wanted Fiona to be prettier and stronger and above all to have an awesome cunning plan to get to Alexius, slow poison or something, and then have a shot at Cory... Even if she died in the intent.
Buahaha! Another convert! Welcome to the blanket fort!
I think the consensus is that Solas is just Fen'Harel, who woke up from a 1000-year slumber and isn't Fen'Harel's soul in another elves body. That he is surprised that those elven ruins are there I think is more due to him being pleased that the temple of Mythal along with the ancient elves in it survived. In regards to the other temples scattered around: I think it is unlikely that every elven god had seen every temple that was erected to the other elven gods back in the day, so it would be expected that Solas is impressed when seeing some of the temples of i.e. Dirthamen or Sylaise.
(Hinterlands) [When first encountering the Black Wolves] The Breach may have driven them mad... or perhaps a demon took command of the pack.
(if in the party) Cole: Do you know a lot about wolves?
Solas: I know that they are intelligent, practical creatures that small-minded fools think of as terrible beasts.
[Enigmatic.]
Help! My new wallpaper is causing me to make high pitched noises and squeals whenever I see it. What's wrong with me?
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