I've been lurking around for some time now and I have just finished my first playthrough DA:I and, OMG, I need want to join this thread so full of Solas, and speculation, and Solas, and Dragon Age fans, and Solas.
The first thing I must say is:
The second thing is: Woah, such an amazing game and such interesting characters. Solas in particular is so well written and the romance with him felt so sad but beautiful at the same time...
I still have a lot of questions about him, even knowing who he really is. I REALLY hope we get to see more of him in coming DLCs or games.
And I am sure it has been already discussed, but I cannot read all the 2644 pages : Do you think Solas is somehow like Flemeth? I mean, "just" an apostate elf with a powerful soul inside of him, or is he is just Fen'Harel, that meaning he is an eternal elf? I think there's evindence for both ideas such as he feeling genuinely surprised finding new elven ruins and learning new things or casting his own coat's tail on fire [party banter with Vivienne], things I feel unlikely in a really old elf, but at the same time he shows a knowledge and makes references to the past that makes him appear to be really old... I don't know what to thing, but it would be nice to read your opinions!
And sorry for my mistakes; English is not my mother tongue.
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So wonderful of you to join and share your thoughts
In regard to your query , I have to agree with jawsisinmywc, I believe he is just Fen'harel and not a vessel.
> If Falon'Din was a separated spirit from Dirthamen, what was the nature of him as "pure spirit"?
> The possibility of Solas still not having been united with his "fade-shadow" is... disturbing! I wonder if his "alter" self, from beyond the veil, is the one who has been working against him all this time! Although according to ordinary tranquility, would he be able to enter into a romantic relationship, feel anything at all, without it?
> Rift Magic. Why is this significant as being unique to Solas until recently? What ability does it give him regarding the connection between him and his maybe-not-there "fade-shadow"?
> IfFalon'Din = Dumat (and possibly Dirthamen, depending on whether Dirthamen is not physically sleeping somewhere... or died, and Solas is born with Falon'Din's fade-shadow attached?):
Old Gods =Elven Pantheon (My interpretation. FIGHT ME )
Dumat (Dragon of Silence) = Falon'Din (Dirthamen)
Toth (Dragon of Fire) = Sylaise
Lusacan (Dragon of Night) = Elgar'nan
Urthemiel (Dragon of Beauty) = Ghilan'nain
Zazikel (Dragon of Freedom/Chaos) = Andruil
Razikale (Dragon of Mystery) = ?
Andoral (Dragon of Slaves) = June
Mythal has a long history of influencing heroes (physically and through the fade aka "Lady of the Skies"). Can we assume that she is not one of the potential archdemons, due to her activity?
> Mythal's reference to the "fragment" of her inside the amulet at Sundermount (if the fade-shadow is itself a whole)
> Sera as Andruil. Is Sera, as speculated, simply one of a bloodline of Andruil - a possible "host"? Or is Andruil Sera's "fade-shadow"? Or was Andruil thrown into "the Abyss" as punishment, and calls to Sera from far away?
So many questions, and I'll probably think of more. I am so sorry! ;-;
For the record, I totally understand why people aren't on board with triple threat theory. When it first occurred to me, my brain basically "NOPE"ed as hard as it could and refused to cooperate for a while. Considering how hard it was to convince myself, I didn't hold out much hope of getting anyone else on board. ^w^ But the evidence seems fairly solid, and it explains so much...
*helpless shrug*
Anyway! All of these questions are really good ones, and overlap a lot with the things I'm still... really uncertain about. Unfortunately.
First, I'm totally on board with the Old God <->Pantheon list above, with a little asterisk at the end because I usually flip flop about where Elgar'nan and Falon'Din fit. Elgar'nan's true domain was always hard to pin down in my head, but I actually really really like the inversion theory in your other post. So, so much. The owl connection feels right too, since physical evidence dating from before he went nuts and decided to take over any and all Sun iconography seemed to be missing entirely otherwise- but owl statuary is everywhere.
Tinfoil hat bonus: this is ridiculous enough that I'm embarrassed to even mention it as a possibility, but if Elgar'nan really was the literal first offspring of the Earth and Sun, and thus Ancient God Dragon / Seraphym in nature, the moon gives us both a direct connection to his domain and explanation of its existence as the shell of his egg, its surface covered in ash from the Sun's attempt to destroy him before Mythal's intervention. *buries her head in her hands* That is completely janky though, and my whole brain is screaming that Elgar'nan has to be elvhen or he'd suffer from the same problems Mythal has in being unable to pilot Ghil's everyday god vehicles or battle dragons. Like hers, his spirit would also be trapped helplessly in the physical world on death, which can't possibly be right- there would have been repercussions by now. Unless he didn't die during the fall of Arlathan which is... actually likely, I suppose. And he doesn't necessarily need to pilot an OGS dragon when he could simply take his natural form....
no no. noooo. God, the whole thing is terrible. Flagging this as severely deprecated theory. Not overtly disproven, but incredibly suspect.
Still, if he was, that would allow Thedas to be created after the Sun was imprisoned in the void, which makes so much more sense than the inverse. But then why would he need to mess with the Sun's blood, when his own would have been pretty much the same thing?
*smacks a hand to her forehead*
Jesus. Ignore all that. Getting back to the Tevinter Pantheon: from a "Bad News for the World" perspective, I'm pretty sure Falon'Din is represented as a distinct Old God, but have my doubts he was piloting a dragon suit when the rest got yanked out of the sky and sealed. I'm not even sure he could, in theory. The concept breaks my mind a bit. If Falon'Din's the one who redirects the OGSes, he can't put himself in, because then how would he... get out...? Which might mean there's one fewer potential Archdemon out there than we think there is...
That's getting into seriously unbaked-thought territory, though. Let me back up onto more solid ground to firm up the things that seem to make sense.
First, I'm not sure the Lady of the Skies in the Avvar saga is Mythal. The backtheory behind that is a bit long though, so stuffing it under a spoiler tag.
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The idea seems like kind of a weird fit to begin with. The Lady would be Mythal's only known incarnation that wasn't physically human, as well as the only one that didn't form the central part of a Triad, both of which feel out of place.
More importantly, there's a decent amount of evidence linking the Lady of the Skies to Ghilan'nain by way of other Avvar myths: in particular, the origin of Lake Calenhad and the restoration of Korth's heart. (Korth being full-on red lyrium golem Andruil during this era. "All forgot her face" as well as her gender apparently. Or alternatively, she may have chosen to be restored to a male body when her OGS was removed from her original red lyrium tainted body / golem suit. That part's unclear.) The myth of Lake Calenhad, describes Korth doing battle with the serpent Nathremar (and losing) at the base of the mountain Belenas- a mirror of the elven tale where Mythal takes serpent form to ambush red lyrium Andruil at the base of a mountain. The Frostback mountains codex also seems to be a hint that Ghil may have found a way to break the hold of the Sun's malevolent Will on Andruil's mind, allowing her to use the power of red lyrium while retaining her "self". The same myth also hints at June's possible identity as Hakkon Wintersbreath within the Avvar pantheon, though that's more debatable. I suspect Dirthamen and Falon'Din may also have held lower positions in the pantheon as Sigfrost and Imhar respectively.
Anyway, Ghil's specific title as the "Lady of the Skies" seems to be a reference to her ascension to the Pantheon: the creatures of the air that she didn't strike down and gifted to Andruil. I seem to remember the Avvar associating her with the hawk in particular, though legend represents her as the Mother of all birds. (Random bonus trivia: Lake Calenhad - created by the tears of the Lady according to the Avvar - does indeed look a bit like a bunny, as Cullen points out- the hare being the second favored creature of Andruil and an additional metaphorical tie between the Lady and Ghilan'nain.)
Also, of all members of the Pantheon, Ghil would be the one I would peg to be doing the kind of careful breeding of tribes with an eye toward the future that the Saga describes. I wouldn't put that kind of long-range planning past Mythal either, of course, but genetic manipulation is pretty much Ghilan'nain's Thing. As for why, Ghil and Andruil want to stick it to Elgar'nan just as badly as Mythal (eventually) does. Those two are the perennial thorns in his side; the Chaos to his Order that he can't do anything about, because he needs Ghil's cooperation to maintain the Pantheon's facade of godliness and ensure social obedience from everyone else.
The nature of Falon'Din's OGS as distinct from Dirthamen's. From the few scraps we can gather in game, OGSes seem to have two main components: a skill and a general temperament. My best guess is that Falon'Din's particular OGS skill is the ability to redirect souls via the fade. This ability is tied, as always, to his related Duty: Falon'Din forms a critical part of the reincarnation cycle that underlies mortal life in Thedas, though this skill was twisted to Pantheon use in terms of enabling OGS-driven 'vehicles' and other purposes. As for the temperament component, hot-headed and impulsive seems a likely fit, given the yin/yang relationship between the two and what we know about Solas-Dirthamen's taciturn, think-instead-of-act nature. It does make me worry about how connected they are these days, though. Falon'Din is clearly still on board with the basic idea of reining in Order- he restored Solas's OGS to a body, after all, as he seems to have restored Andruil, June, and Ghil- and as far as we know, he hasn't restored Sylaise. ...though that makes me wonder exactly what's going on with her OGS in the fade right now....
....gah, no. That's getting into more theory quicksand. Back to the actual questions.
The Falon'Din/Dirthamen Soul Disconnect and Romance/Personality This is an absolute mess in my head. On the one hand, tranquility seems pretty straightforward. You lose your connection to the fade, you lose your magic, you lose your emotions. But on the other hand, Dwarves. Totally cut off from the fade, and yet not emotionless drones. Varric is a steaming pile of personality and tragic love. Where does that come from, if not from the fade? I'm half convinced understanding what happened back when the "First Thaig" was established and they lost all memory of what they'd been before is the key here, but... *baffled shrug*
Anyway. I'm mostly convinced that Dirthamen wasn't severed from Falon'Din in the same direct tranquil-brand way that Andruil or June were. His ToM mosaic is missing the telltale circular forehead pattern, at least. Still, there's an unsettling weirdness to the relationship that reminds me of a person with a severed corpus callosum. Without that connective pathway, one brain basically becomes two: only one of which can speak for the whole (because of Broca's and Wiernecke's and how dramatically sided language functionality is in general) but the other is entirely aware and has its own will. The two halves are still largely in sync and connected, sharing information at a deeper subconscious level, but things can go... wrong. Sometimes the person's right hand literally doesn't know what the left is doing. A patient might grab a pink shirt out of the closet fully intending to wear it, and then his other hand will snatch it and toss it on the ground. Or one hand will be trying to button up a shirt while the other follows, undoing all the buttons.
This is mildly irritating, if you're a human being trying to get dressed. If you're a very powerful ancient mage tasked with maintaining Balance in the world, things going wrong could be very bad. Particularly if that remaining subconscious connection is essentially poisoning your other half with regret.
Mythal as a potential Archdemon: Mythal is a unique case in terms of the Pantheon, and understanding what makes her different does a lot to explain why being Dumat (or any of the Archdemons) doesn't seem possible. Conceptually, OGS-piloting a dragon uses the fade like an eluvian crossroads: it requires an OGS to be drawn from the original body and redirected into the dragon "vehicle". The key here is that Mythal doesn't have a connection to the fade of Thedas. She is, conceptually, a very small fragment of the soul of Earth, one of the two powerful pre-veil entities that created the world. Consequently, she's not connected to the fade like the other members of the Pantheon are. In much the same way that the Fade can be conceived of as the soul or fade-shadow of Thedas, Mythal carries around a fragment of her own Fade, the independent source of her power. The fact that she is fundamentally distinct from Thedas and its Fade means her OGS cannot be redirected via Falon'Din's fade-crossroads: not to an OGS vehicle and not to another body when she dies. This is why her soul haunts the physical world each time she's sacrificed, and why she's forced to wait for a willing host to take her in.
A second important thing to note here is that all of Mythal's magic draws from this internal, finite source- the last of which is granted to Solas at the end of DAI. Her OGS however, as we conceive of it, goes elsewhere. To Morrigan.
If our basic understanding here isn't flawed, this distinction is important. Solas is not Mythalolas now. He is still just Solas, gifted with what remained of Mythal's fade power. This means what we conceive of as OGSes and fade shadows are not the same thing, if you see what I'm getting at. Mythal gave her fade-shadow to Solas, and her OGS to Morrigan.
This is where terminology makes things more confusing than they should be Conceptually we're primed to conceive of beings as having two parts: a physical body and a soul- and this is basically true of all the mortal races of Thedas. We call OGSes "Old God Souls", but by all appearances an OGS may be, in fact, far more representative of the physical side of existence. It is the concentrated Will of an entity: its identity, its Self, its memories. Unlike spirits, the core nature of an OGS seems to be persistent and unchanging. And tellingly, each one also seems intimately tied to a Duty or Purpose.
This, I think, might be the key to understanding what OGSes actually are, and why they exist. It's possible they're the embodiment of powers granted by Mythal early in Thedas' primordial history, which the granted entity was expected to use in the performance of a specific eternal Duty in service of the People and the Stone. ...maybe?
AAAH. No. Let me back right up out of that train of thought, because it's heading straight to uncooked crazytown, which is nowhere near your other questions.
Sera and Andruil. Sera seems to be carrying Andruil's OGS, just as Flemeth carries Mythal and Sandal June. She is Andruil reborn, from a certain perspective- the critical distinction being that Andruil's OGS was wiped clean of her original memories.
When an entity dies in DA, its fade-shadow seems to be severed from the physical body, becoming what we know as a fade spirit. Without a direct source to reflect, this spirit quickly loses its sense of who it was. There are exceptions to this, of course: in much the same way that elves seem to direct Will to their spirits to enter uthenera, it seems possible for dying entities (through sheer willpower) to grant their soul a degree of persistent Will which allows that sense of self to persist longer than it normally would. Conceptually, this is what a "ghost" is. By clinging to Will and a sense of purpose (to right a wrong, to watch over a loved one, to exact vengeance, etc) a fade-shadow sustains a degree of identity and personal memory. This requires focused intent, however- and in the case of the Old Gods as Archdemons, being blight-maddened at the point of death isn't entirely conducive to the idea. Also, given the effect of red lyrium and blight in general, it's not certain how much 'self' the Archdemon might still possess at the time of their death, independent of what might be additionally lost crossing the veil.
Kieran ought be able to answer that particular question, but frustratingly enough the Inquisitor can't ask and Ghil seems to be playing coy. It's impossible to tell from the outside whether her OGS is fully awake and aware, having retained her sense of self and memory Mythal-style when she was removed from the blighted Archdemon body, or whether Kieran's insights into the Inquisitor's genetics are like Sera's marksmanship and Sandal's craft- granting the skill but having lost the sense of self.
Of course, the pointed question here is that if we assume triple threat theory to be true, what does that mean in terms of what happened to Dirthamen-Dumat when his OGS was pulled through the veil?
The assumption I'm working from at the moment is that Dirthamen-Solas was wiped. I think Falon'Din was able to direct his OGS back into a body and infuse him with a fairly strong degree of the shared Self that it retained, but it couldn't restore his original memories. Solas would have known who and what he was and had a sense of his Duty, but as far as personal history was concerned, he probably had to do exactly what he claims he did: learn it all from scratch by exploring the Fade.
So that's one possible explanation for why he completely drops out of sight after Andraste's death. He's in the fade full-time, trying to relearn everything.
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I'm guessing their meeting would be somewhere along these lines? XD
HAH HEADCANON ACCEPTED. XD
Okay, so I can't contribute to lore much - although I love reading it. My "expertise" is analyzing characters and the story. I have a theory as to what future DLC may hold. I get a bit rambly and too detailed at times, so please bear with me.
I am wary of Flemeth. I don't think she's the typical villain type like Corypheus, who is cliched as all get-out. When y'all pointed that out, it raised a red flag.
The first clue is the name of the age and the games: dragon. Flemeth can transform into a dragon, perhaps she is a dragon, she is Mythal. Perhaps BioWare is telling us right up front that this age was not just named because dragons began appearing again...but because Flemeth may change the world.
She has appeared in all three games, leaving us with more questions and just a few clues that would help us connect with what occurred in DAI. She is clever, powerful, and dangerous, a frightening combination. A typically villainous combination, but we know BioWare doesn't like to make a bad guy look like a bad guy. If they do...they're just distracting us.
And so comes in Corypheus.
I love Cory, I think he's awesome, but he's a terribly shallow character. BioWare could have easily fleshed him out, made us sympathize with him - and while we kind of do in a sense, we don't care about him like we do Flemeth, Solas, Morrigan, or Loghain.
So what is BioWare distracting us from? Not Solas or Morrigan: they were shoved in front of us with a big sign reading "PAY ATTENTION TO THEM." Nearly everything these two intend has been revealed upfront. BioWare is showing us their hand, and hiding the ace in their sleeve; and we know it's there...we just don't know when they are going to play it; but we have an idea: when there are higher stakes.
Flemeth is that ace, and the winning card just happens to be Mythal, the murdered goddess intent on justice and vengeance on those who killed her. But they're gone...right?
No. They're stuck somewhere.
Who stuck them in eternal time-out? Solas.
Solas, I'm sure, is the only person who can find the Creators and free them. Hence the importance of the focci, and Solas taking Flemeth's power. Flemeth allowed Solas to take her power, but I doubt it was all of it...just enough for Solas to do what he must...or what she wants him to do.
Solas, I think, is too distracted by his own guilt, sorrow, and pride to realize he very well may be being used by Flemeth. Or, he does realize it but he doesn't give a **** because he is so convinced that what he did was wrong, and he will do anything to undo it despite the consequences of another god's wrath...a wrath that may destroy everything. He is so ****** lonely, he is willing to risk being killed just to end it.
But Flemeth wants to kill the ones who murdered her/Mythal. How exactly will she go about that?
Not quietly. From the stories, she went all out on enacting justice. Have ulterior motives? Dead. Imagined slight? Dead. No real mercy, no slap on the hand. Poof. Dead. And it may not stop just there.
Flemeth has been in the background for too long for me to feel safe anymore. She is pulling the strings, saving the chess pieces that keep the world going for her benefit so she can have her vengeance.
"Why did Mythal come to you?"
"For a reckoning that will shake the very heavens."
"She was betrayed as I was betrayed. As the world was betrayed! Mythal crawled and clawed through the ages to me,and I will see her avenged!"
The world was betrayed? By who?
The elven gods?
The Maker?
Tevinter?
By Solas for locking away the only ones who could save Arlathan?
I believe Solas' story isn't just about redemption. It's about saving him.
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I am behind this 100%. I also have a feeling she is pulling invisible strings and planning her every move, and that Solas, regardless of the fact that he knows this or not, will do what he feels he must.
Yes, I wanted Fiona to be prettier and stronger and above all to have an awesome cunning plan to get to Alexius, slow poison or something, and then have a shot at Cory... Even if she died in the intent.
Bah, Fiona would know a cunning plan, even if it painted itself blue and danced naked on top of a harpsichord, singing "Cunning plans are here again". She ran for help to Tevinter magister. Seriously, what on earth could possibly go wrong?
I've despised the woman since The Calling for no apparent reason. But now, oh, now I have plenty
Bah, Fiona would know a cunning plan, even if it painted itself blue and danced naked on top of a harpsichord, singing "Cunning plans are here again". She ran for help to Tevinter magister. Seriously, what on earth could possibly go wrong?
I've despised the woman since The Stolen Throne for no apparent reason. But now, oh, now I have plenty
But Fiona wasn't even in The Stolen Throne... The elven lady there was Katriel.
Din - dead, deceased.
Elvhen - elves.
Emma - I am.
Him - become.
So it's literally "Dead elves, I [have] become." However, taken into context what they're saying - Solas marvels what "his people" built (as in, those from his time), Sera shows flagrant disregard and says "who wants to think about stepping on dead elves?" In frustration, he probably meant words to the effect of "My people really are dead!" Or "Have my people really become so dead?!"
Just my guess.
I studied Japanese, so I have some familiarity with languages that are nothing like English and with trying to translate what they basically mean (and the invented Elven language reminds me a lot of Japanese!). What I think Solas is saying, assuming he is asking a sort of rhetorical question, is something along the lines of (according to your word-for-word translation):
"Have I become one of these dead elven?"
It's like he's saying, "Oh, is that what I am? Dead? Are you stepping on me, then?" It's sarcastic, but he says it in a language he knows Sera won't understand because he's basically admitting to who he really is!
Anyway, this is just my opinion and could be wildly off-base, lol! But, this seems like something Solas could say to her and word-for-word translations just don't work with this invented Elven language anymore than they do with Japanese (and many other very far away from English languages).
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I studied Japanese, so I have some familiarity with languages that are nothing like English and with trying to translate what they basically mean (and the invented Elven language reminds me a lot of Japanese!). What I think Solas is saying, assuming he is asking a sort of rhetorical question, is something along the lines of (according to your word-for-word translation):
"Have I become one of these dead elven?"
It's like he's saying, "Oh, is that what I am? Dead? Are you stepping on me, then?" It's sarcastic, but he says it in a language he knows Sera won't understand because he's basically admitting to who he really is!
Anyway, this is just my opinion and could be wildly off-base, lol! But, this seems like something Solas could say to her and word-for-word translations just don't work with this invented Elven language anymore than they do with Japanese (and many other very far away from English languages).
I often compare Elvhen to Japanese in particular (as I don't know enough about any other non-Germanic language). But if we take that as a basis we must also assume that many words are omitted, boiling down to a single word making up a whole context. In addition, BioWare's Elvhen seems more of a cipher so it could mean about anything from what you suggested to "I am a dead elf. And you will be (, too)" or even "They are dead, we are still here, but we will be dead in the future" to point out how there's little difference and Sera is too short-sighted.
We should petition BioWare to publish a Guide to Elvhen Language.
I was not into Dumat-is-Mythal theory, but then this loading screen shows up. The looming thing above magisters does resemble Mythal's statues. Or is it just Cornflakes?
Buahaha! Another convert! Welcome to the blanket fort!
I think the consensus is that Solas is just Fen'Harel, who woke up from a 1000-year slumber and isn't Fen'Harel's soul in another elves body. That he is surprised that those elven ruins are there I think is more due to him being pleased that the temple of Mythal along with the ancient elves in it survived. In regards to the other temples scattered around: I think it is unlikely that every elven god had seen every temple that was erected to the other elven gods back in the day, so it would be expected that Solas is impressed when seeing some of the temples of i.e. Dirthamen or Sylaise.
Hi and welcome!! *warm hugs
So wonderful of you to join and share your thoughts
In regard to your query , I have to agree with jawsisinmywc, I believe he is just Fen'harel and not a vessel.
Thank you so much for your responses and your welcome! I agree with you too, but I think there's a possibility of him being a vessel because Patrick Weekes didn't answer directly to that question Ahh, even if I think it's pretty sure he is just Fen'Harel, I like having room for imagination (and he set his own coat on fire xDD).
The fact that he is bald (as all the elder elves I remember so far) is also a good point for him being an ancient elf, even if it is not proof and it could just be a trend or something.
I was not into Dumat-is-Mythal theory, but then this loading screen shows up. The looming thing above magisters does resemble Mythal's statues. Or is it just Cornflakes?
I really hope that is Corypheus.. D: Too creepy to think about something else!
I was not into Dumat-is-Mythal theory, but then this loading screen shows up. The looming thing above magisters does resemble Mythal's statues. Or is it just Cornflakes?
I'm more bugged that there's just five/six of them.
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN BIOWARE?
*sigh* I'm overreading everything in this drought of information.
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I am so going to try those Thanks for the tip
Btw guys.. what is happening with the thread title? XD It keeps changing xD or am I having visions?
In fact, I'm almost sure I read a quote somewhere (but can't find it now) where an angry fan called Gaider out on putting Grey Warden women in the position to get turned into Broodmothers, and he calmly responded that Grey Warden women have limited reproductive abilities. I can't remember exactly what he said, but he basically implied that they're safe in that area thanks to the side effect of the Joining limiting their fertility.
Sorry if this was said already (still few pages of the thread to catch up, why it's moving so quickly? I have a feeling I do nothing else lately than trying to catch up the thread, lol. Anyway), but I think it's said somewhere in DA:O (I think in some conversation with romanced Alistair king) that grey warden women are sterile and this has something to do with the Joining.
So, I was reading through the codex's tonight and came across one a Malvernis. It definitely sounds like a supposed forgotten one or something along those lines. And was about the three signs?! Also it could explain the purpose of the dwarven ruins on the surface...
EDIT: Or perhaps he is the 3rd member of the the forbidden ones!
It really does sound like a forgotten one. The changing of his form into a high dragon... a spectral one though... the whispering from the orb into your mind, the sound of "drums", which sounds like his song....
: Do you think Solas is somehow like Flemeth? I mean, "just" an apostate elf with a powerful soul inside of him, or is he is just Fen'Harel, that meaning he is an eternal elf? I think there's evindence for both ideas such as he feeling genuinely surprised finding new elven ruins and learning new things or casting his own coat's tail on fire [party banter with Vivienne], things I feel unlikely in a really old elf, but at the same time he shows a knowledge and makes references to the past that makes him appear to be really old... I don't know what to thing, but it would be nice to read your opinions!
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But, this seems like something Solas could say to her and word-for-word translations just don't work with this invented Elven language anymore than they do with Japanese (and many other very far away from English languages).
Ahh, even if I think it's pretty sure he is just Fen'Harel, I like having room for imagination (and he set his own coat on fire xDD).
