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[BoscoBread]

Them not being gods does not quite disprove the idea that they needed to change bodies (in my eyes it's rather the opposite, if anything at all). And he cannot flee in the future because where to? What body could he use? The body of the dying guy next to him? He needs a willing host after all, not just anybody. There is nowhere to go. And also, what for? He's given up by that point, pragmatically thinking there's no hope left.

 

I really respect that there are different opinions here. I rather think that it is completely open. There's no "evidence" whatsoever. The few facts we know could support both theories. If one of both were clearly and obviously correct BioWare would not sternly avoid answering this question. I am sure they arranged the lore so that none of both ideas can be dismissed readily.

I apologize, I didn't mean to come off as if I was dismissing your comment or other people's opinions.  Personally, I've never found the god-soul hopping thing thing to be particularly appealing in terms of story-telling.  So I'm kind of 'meh' on the whole idea when it's brought up.  There's a lot more that is interesting about faith and belief - to me - if he is and always was Fen'Harel - meaning the body you see is the one he always had.  But I know that's not where everyone's interests lie and I agree it's fun hearing other people's ideas.   In conclusion, theorize away little Mordins! 

[ByTheCode]

Thanks for the answers. I really want to drink the Well because Elf Quizzie but I dunno.

[drake2511]

I have a question regarding What Pride Had Wrought when you're romancing Solas.

 

Spoiler

If you drink from the Well of Sorrows, how does that affect your relationship with Solas? Yes, I already know the very ending part, so I'm not taking that into account. Just the relationship aspect.

 

I think the only difference from romance to friendship is that if in a romance, he says he "begged" you not to drink, while with a friend he just says he "warned" you not to.
 

[Illyria]

Thanks for the answers. I really want to drink the Well because Elf Quizzie but I dunno.

 

It's a hard choice, but my Lavellan saw it as a chance to gain knowledge about elven history and culture.  She knew the risks (and thanks to the arcane knowledge perk was able to discuss them) but they were worth regaining something of what they had lost.  And she wasn't willing to trust this knowledge to a human.  As Lavellan can say 'this is my heritage.' But in the end it's up to you.  Just ask yourself: does it make sense for my character?

[Pinax]

On Solas duality: there are lots of convincing arguments for the theory that Solas is in fact a dreamer Solas + the spirit of Fen'Harel, although... I am personally not a big fan of this theory, it's just a personal taste of "what suits to my HC Solas".

 

I prefer to see him as a person who learned on his experiences/mistakes and not someone who gained some traits or feelings (compassion, being able to love the Inquisitor etc.) thanks to a merge with a mortal person. I actually think that he's a creature "we don't know", as more or less he says in the dialogue after the Well of Sorrows mission, if you drank from the Well. I understand it that the gods are already a mix of mage+spirit+something more (god soul?) and this alone makes a duality which makes rather hard to them interacting with mortals.

 

I've been thinking of what Solas said after the Fade-tongue scene: he's not ready yet to launch into relationship and says that "there may be trouble of it". I was wondering: what kind of trouble? Why is he always so: "we shouldn't"? The best answer I came up with is that he's afraid that, if he's being flesh+spirit creature (somehow like Cole, I believe, though Cole is not a mage and even despite his special skills which may be considered "magical" as "coming not from this world", he has limited "magical" abilities), any closer engagement could alter his spirit and change him into a demon. I think this is why he's so relieved that if you make Cole more human, he observes that this didn't change his true nature.

[Colonelkillabee]

I apologize, I didn't mean to come off as if I was dismissing your comment or other people's opinions.  Personally, I've never found the god-soul hopping thing thing to be particularly appealing in terms of story-telling.  So I'm kind of 'meh' on the whole idea when it's brought up.  There's a lot more that is interesting about faith and belief - to me - if he is and always was Fen'Harel - meaning the body you see is the one he always had.  But I know that's not where everyone's interests lie and I agree it's fun hearing other people's ideas.   In conclusion, theorize away little Mordins! 

I think most people find it meh because they don't want their Solasypoo to be something besides what he appears if I'm being honest Honestly, the body hopping thing with everything we know makes too much sense not to be true. For me.

 

That's just my opinion though. Nothing yet is proven.

[ByTheCode]

It's a hard choice, but my Lavellan saw it as a chance to gain knowledge about elven history and culture.  She knew the risks (and thanks to the arcane knowledge perk was able to discuss them) but they were worth regaining something of what they had lost.  And she wasn't willing to trust this knowledge to a human.  As Lavellan can say 'this is my heritage.' But in the end it's up to you.  Just ask yourself: does it make sense for my character?

That makes a lot of sense. My Lavellan is way into elven history and culture, and I have the arcane knowledge perk too. I guess imma drink it then.

[BoscoBread]

I am pretty certain that the mutterings you hear from the Venatori (yeah, and that that name too...) are Latin.

I really love hearing them mutter in Latin around the world. It's so amusing.  I really really hope we get to go to Tevinter.  I hope it's just as debauched and wonderful and horrifying as I imagine ancient Rome to be.  What I would give to have a companion/villain/advisor as wonderful as Livia.

[Illyria]

I prefer to see him as a person who learned on his experiences/mistakes and not someone who gained some traits or feelings (compassion, being able to love the Inquisitor etc.) thanks to a merge with a mortal person.

 

This is (somewhat) my feelings on the 'is Solas really Fen'Harel or the host of Fen'Harel?' question.  To me he loses something if the experiences he had as Fen'Harel aren't connected to the person he now is.

[drake2511]

Hi I have a dumb question:

 

Where the hell is my override folder on DA O? I downloaded a few mods but I'm not finding the folder so I thought maybe I'm just going crazy. I swear I've done mods before it's just been awhile.

 

Did I have to download something first before I download the mods? It's for hairstyles and eye colors.

 

It should be in your documents/Bioware/Dragon Age/packages/core/override

EDIT: I reccomand this, it's useful and you can get all the aesthetic mods you want to work fine together: http://www.nexusmods...nage/mods/971/?

Modifié par drake2511, 31 janvier 2015 - 07:08 .

[Solas]

Question for the thread: In your Thedas who do you consider to be more heartbroken by the way things turned out, Solas or Lavellan?

[Illyria]

Hi I have a dumb question:

 

Where the hell is my override folder on DA O? I downloaded a few mods but I'm not finding the folder so I thought maybe I'm just going crazy. I swear I've done mods before it's just been awhile.

 

Did I have to download something first before I download the mods? It's for hairstyles and eye colors.

 

If you don't have one then just make one.

[BubbleDncr]

I guess I'm behind the times on this, but I just saw:

 

User

this is prob a popular question, but are we close to a way to edit appearance in game? #DragonAgeInquisition

 

Mark Darrah ‏@BioMarkDarrah

yes

 

Hooray!!! My Lavellan will now be able to update her makeup to look good without her tattoos!

[Maria13]

I really love hearing them mutter in Latin around the world. It's so amusing. I really really hope we get to go to Tevinter. I hope it's just as debauched and wonderful and horrifying as I imagine ancient Rome to be. What I wouldgive to have a companion/villain/advisor as wonderful as Livia.
 
Did you read the DA comics? There's some glimpses of Trevinter in Until we Sleep... and, yeah, it is like ancient Rome.

[Siha]

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Of course it could be that Solas is simply Fen'Harel under another name but somehow it doesn't feel right to me.

 

Thank you for this! I really appreciate your contribution. I never got that particular conversation, but I also feel like there is something of a "normal elf's life" in Solas' stories.

 

 

<snip>

 

Maybe you should post this to the new lore forum? That's quite the collection and a good basis to build on.
 

 

So, Im at the salon getting my hair dyed Lavallan white. I figured if anyone could appreciate that, itd be you guys! Haha

 

My Lavellan is not white haired but I pretty much like that. Care to share the end result, too?

[Pinax]

Question for the thread: In your Thedas who do you consider to be more heartbroken by the way things turned out, Solas or Lavellan?

Lavellan! 2649 pages of Solas thread don't some out of nowhere

[BubbleDncr]

Question for the thread: In your Thedas who do you consider to be more heartbroken by the way things turned out, Solas or Lavellan?

 

I'd say Lavellan, because she doesn't know why. At least Solas knows everything. 

 

Tho I also think he'll be sadder for longer. If Solas NEVER comes back, my headcannon will probably end up with Lavellan having lots of casual sex with Iron Bull. Meanwhile Solas will just die alone. 

[Colonelkillabee]

I don't like the dualist explanation for Solas' being, but aside from that, it doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Mythal was murdered- Fen'Harel never was, as far as we know. Why would he even have to body hop?

Boredom, lol, or after very long times maybe even they can't preserve a body forever. Maybe not all of them actually have body hopped, but the body they were given still isn't their own. If they once existed as something similar in nature to a spirit, it would make sense. For all we know, Mythal's wisp form was actually her natural state. "Murdered" could have been her being forcefully separated from her body that she melded with, same as how I think the old gods were separated from the taint.

 

edit:

 

"Bodies are such limiting things." -Flemythal

 

You don't say something like that if your body switching gig isn't normal, but because of your state of weakness. It would suggest that she isn't tied to any sort of physical body.

Modifié par Colonelkillabee, 31 janvier 2015 - 07:13 .

[Adynata]

Question for the thread: In your Thedas who do you consider to be more heartbroken by the way things turned out, Solas or Lavellan?

 

Def my Lavellan, even the one who was more indifferent toward her relationship with him. Based on his behavior and comments, I just don't get the impression he's terribly broke up about it. He really seems to have more important concerns on his mind, and that is entirely understandable.

[Avejajed]

It should be in your documents/Bioware/Dragon Age/packages/core/override

EDIT: I reccomand this, it's useful and you can get all the aesthetic mods you want to work fine together: http://www.nexusmods...nage/mods/971/?

 

It's not in documents...well this is what I have for that..

 

I'm on Windows 8

 

Documents\BioWare\DragonAge\Settings\

Then it has addln and offers in two files under settings.

 

Now, if I go another route (I used Origin to download games)...

 

I can get here..

C:\Program Files (x86)\Origin Games\Dragon Age\packages\core

 

But no override folder.

 

 

help.

[BoscoBread]

Question for the thread: In your Thedas who do you consider to be more heartbroken by the way things turned out, Solas or Lavellan?

Solas.  He has nobody.   Lavellan was incredibly hurt and she still loves him but she has her friends.  She finds a purpose in the Inquisition -- she can do a lot of good in the world with her power and she hopes to use it wisely. Her clan still lives and helps run Wycome.  She feels like this is a good turning point for not just the Dalish but all elves. 

 

She told him how she felt.  It's his move. He knows where she lives.

[Maria13]

Question for the thread: In your Thedas who do you consider to be more heartbroken by the way things turned out, Solas or Lavellan?

 

Solas, he's the older, he fell hardest, he's nearer the end and his fear is precisely "dying alone" Lavellen still has a chance to remake her life...

[BubbleDncr]

Def my Lavellan, even the one who was more indifferent toward her relationship with him. Based on his behavior and comments, I just don't get the impression he's terribly broke up about it. He really seems to have more important concerns on his mind, and that is entirely understandable.

 

I think he's just hiding his sadness. I mean, his biggest fear is dying alone, and he probably feels like he just doomed himself to that. He may have more important concerns, but I still think he's very sad about the whole thing. 

[Pinax]

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Maybe you should post this to the new lore forum? That's quite the collection and a good basis to build on.
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Thank you, I'll think of that. Haven't been on the lore forum yet, desperately trying to have other life than reading/posting on DA, lol

[CapricornSun]

Question for the thread: In your Thedas who do you consider to be more heartbroken by the way things turned out, Solas or Lavellan?

Hmm, I'd say Lavellan. He pretty much broke up with her and literally left her with no explanation why he did it. No closure whatsoever.

EDIT: Though now that I think about it, Solas must also be equally heartbroken doing what he did. He had a chance at happiness with the woman he loves; but he's so bound by his guilt (thousands of years worth of guilt, I must add) and duty that he chose to break it off with her, and probably risk facing his greatest fear of dying alone while pursuing to right his wrongs.

*sigh* I'm so depressed now...