Yeah. The relationship doesn't "lock" in until AFTER he dumps you. So where you have the choice to say "as you are to me" or "im sorry you were right, this was impulsive". His heartbreak is TANGIBLE.
Ooooh I see. Imma do that on one save and let him shatter my heart to pieces on another.
Stupid egg man with his stupid pointy hat WHY IS HE SO CUTE WHYYY
This is (somewhat) my feelings on the 'is Solas really Fen'Harel or the host of Fen'Harel?' question. To me he loses something if the experiences he had as Fen'Harel aren't connected to the person he now is.
I agree. I wouldn't be mad or anything if it turned out to be a split soul type deal, but I think it is a lot more interesting if he's just Fen'Harel.
I feel like them not being connected would be an easy 'get out of jail free card' for Solas, where we could ignore any previous evils he might have done because he was either under the influence of wolf god spirit, or wasn't his doing entirely. It also makes a somewhat sticky situation if they were ever separated. I know people like the idea because it gives the potential to have a 'happy ending' with Solas, but... what if the person you fell in love with was Fen'Harel, not dreamer elf? Getting a body that looks like your lover is not much of a consolation prize.
I'm actually conflicted in regards to this. I'm split right in the middle. There's evidence to both sides but I feel like if we take into account that Solas did grow up in a small village and was being honest with us, then it's safe to assume two things:
- Fen'Harel used to be an Elvhen of more humble origins until he rose up and joined the rest of the Pantheon as a God,
- Solas is sharing the body with Fen'Harel's spirit (a la Wynne, Anders, etc),
- Solas simply lied about his humble beginnings and it's in fact Fen'Harel (he retained his body because of Uthenera).
I feel like the story would be more interesting if Solas is actually Fen'Harel and he retained his body after his long sleep but what would be the implications of Solas sharing a body with Fen'Harel? If Fen'Harel leaves Solas' body (we kick him out), how much of Solas personality is Fen'Harel's and how much is Solas'? I would want to think if Solas is sharing a body with an Elvhen God that he would still retain his personality but notice how much Anders changed because of Justice. It's difficult to tell.
I think a better question is does it truly matter anymore? Whether or not Solas' body is the Fen'harel or not, they are one right? So for all intents and purposes, Solas is Fen'harel, even if the body wasn't always.
But I do agree, it could go either way, even if I'm inclined to say it's the tok'ra gua'uld gig. I don't think Solas truly lies about anything though, just gives half truths. So him growing up in a small village is probably true.
If so, I could see some boy being chosen to be given to their god, which would be considered the highest of honors I'd imagine.
Question for the thread: In your Thedas who do you consider to be more heartbroken by the way things turned out, Solas or Lavellan?
Solas! Because he truly thinks it's over, whilst Lavellan is mostly just confused. It was obvious he wasn't breaking up with her because he wanted to, just because he felt he had to.
My Lavellan is just confused about her entire life at the moment. Everything at the Temple of Mythal, the Vallaslin reveal, Solas leaving... She's starting to realize that a lot of things she took for granted just weren't true. And as a Dalish Elf, and first to her clan, she feels it's her job to uncover the truth. So she's currently running around all the ancient ruins she can find, reading any ancient texts, studying myths etc. trying to figure out that truth. She's a problem fixer, and her current plan is to fix everything for her people and for herself, which includes finding Solas. No one has told her that fixing her entire races history might not be that easy yet...
As for his experiences as Fen'harel, he could have still had those experiences. We don't know when the Solas body was given if true. Could have been very very long ago.
Again, IF true.
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I would prefer immortality to not even be brought up ingame, honestly. People have differing opinions, and I think its fine if people want to headcanon whatever they'd like. But unless all elves became immortal [which admittedly would be an interesting plot twist!] I don't really want to have to have Lavellan become godlike. We've already got super powers.
Enjoyed the diversity of responses that were given regarding my question, thanks guys 
I'm going to be a prune and say that dress is not going to win you court approval points.
But it'll win Solas approval points for sure T_T
Stupid egg man with his stupid pointy hat WHY IS HE SO CUTE WHYYY
I will never be able to buy eggs again without thinking of Solas..
Question for the thread: In your Thedas who do you consider to be more heartbroken by the way things turned out, Solas or Lavellan?
I'd say Solas. My Lavellan is strong. She faces her sadness, accepts it, and moves forward, living in the present rather than in the past. She has a meaningful life and she thinks that he has his reasons to break their relationship, even if he won't explain himself, so she respects his choice. And she won't make herself mad by wondering WHY day and night. She won't suffer too much and it's also because he didn't revealed her how difficult is his path. It's him who is really alone, and we know his greatest fear... I think he is the one to worry about, poor lonely wolf :/ But he's not without resource and wisdom, fortunately.
I would prefer immortality to not even be brought up ingame, honestly. People have differing opinions, and I think its fine if people want to headcanon whatever they'd like. But unless all elves became immortal [which admittedly would be an interesting plot twist!] I don't really want to have to have Lavellan become godlike. We've already got super powers.
That's actually exactly what I think would happen if they follow the immortality plot line. That ALL elves will regain their immortality (and maybe their magic too) if Solas rips something open or does something crazy to restore the past. It won't just be the Inquisitor.
Oh gosh Sera. I'm just picturing Sera if this happens. She would freak.
That to me sounds more like a spirit- mortal merge, which I do think is a possibility for how the elven gods came to be.Maybe they always had to? "Bodies are such limiting things". Maybe a god is just an essence, not bound to a physical body at all? Would at least resemble the common notion of godhood in our world.
Agreed, just discussing theories.I apologize, I didn't mean to come off as if I was dismissing your comment or other people's opinions. Personally, I've never found the god-soul hopping thing thing to be particularly appealing in terms of story-telling. So I'm kind of 'meh' on the whole idea when it's brought up. There's a lot more that is interesting about faith and belief - to me - if he is and always was Fen'Harel - meaning the body you see is the one he always had. But I know that's not where everyone's interests lie and I agree it's fun hearing other people's ideas. In conclusion, theorize away little Mordins!
That's rather dismissive. Obviously he's more than he appears to be.I think most people find it meh because they don't want their Solasypoo to be something besides what he appears if I'm being honest
Honestly, the body hopping thing with everything we know makes too much sense not to be true. For me.
That's just my opinion though. Nothing yet is proven.
She also says that Mythal is part of her like the heart is part of your chest. The matter is not as cut and dried as you're making it out to be. But if all we're talking about is a formless spirit joining to a mortal, I do think that's possibly how the elven gods came to be, or part of their formation anyway. I was rejecting the idea of Fen'Harel as a distinct entity, taking over a mortal named Solas.Boredom, lol, or after very long times maybe even they can't preserve a body forever. Maybe not all of them actually have body hopped, but the body they were given still isn't their own. If they once existed as something similar in nature to a spirit, it would make sense. For all we know, Mythal's wisp form was actually her natural state. "Murdered" could have been her being forcefully separated from her body that she melded with, same as how I think the old gods were separated from the taint.
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"Bodies are such limiting things." -Flemythal
You don't say something like that if your body switching gig isn't normal, but because of your state of weakness. It would suggest that she isn't tied to any sort of physical body.
Why do some people hope for the inquisitor to be immortal?
Having the option of immortally could be great to a Lavellan IF she rekindles with an elven god, but what of the other inquisitors? Everyone around them will die, Their own love interest as well. They may keep their adoration of the people or potentially live long enough to see your symbol twisted into villainy. Out of the 31(ish) romance combinations, 30 inquisitors will find sorrow, the 31th will have that and a gamble of rekindling.
I don't. It would have to be that way for all Inquisitors. BW is slowly but surely forcing canon - big decisions are being reduced to minor things because of how many world states would have to exist for any big options. This is fine for me because it keeps the story tighter. I like having choices but I recognize that it's difficult to do on a practical level. So something like "becoming immortal" for one character that chose to romance another character...not seeing that happening.
My personal thoughts- it'd be more interesting if Solas gave it up(if he can). His immortality and power have brought him nothing but pain. Mythal didn't die but she is a shadow of what she once was. She is hell bent on justice for ONE thing. Her murder. She's also clearly unhinged. Not a life I would want to live. Abelas and friends are practically ghosts. Relics rotting in a rotting temple. The time for the immortals died a long time ago. You may have others clinging to the past but based on what we've seen, I wouldn't call it a good existence. So, in the wise words of Felix "There are worse things than dying."
Though I do recognize why the idea is romantic to a lot of people.
That's actually exactly what I think would happen if they follow the immortality plot line. That ALL elves will regain their immortality (and maybe their magic too) if Solas rips something open or does something crazy to restore the past. It won't just be the Inquisitor.
Oh gosh Sera. I'm just picturing Sera if this happens. She would freak.
Yeah, I am totally fine with that outcome. Because then it wouldn't be just limited to a romantic angle- there would be some serious consequences and changes to the world because of it. Imagine city elves suddenly having immortality! That would make for a lot of drama.
But it'll win Solas approval points for sure T_T
Honestly, it's not as bad as wearing underwear to the orlesian ball. Like this:
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That's rather dismissive. Obviously he's more than he appears to be.
She also says that Mythal is part of her like the heart is part of your chest. The matter is not as cut and dried as you're making it out to be. But if all we're talking about is a formless spirit joining to a mortal, I do think that's possibly how the elven gods came to be, or part of their formation anyway. I was rejecting the idea of Fen'Harel as a distinct entity, taking over a mortal named Solas.
For me it's far more complicated than some kind of romantic sentimentality. Philosophically I really dislike spirit-body dualism, so that's part of my dislike of the idea. I would prefer to think of him as an integrated being. And again, I'm not yet convinced that Mythal's experience with Flemeth is the normal course of affairs because of her murder. That event is talked about as so traumatic, so outrageous, that it makes no sense to me that it's simply the normal matter of course for the elven gods.
I meant that the body is something that could be ditched. I doubt people like that idea when they fell in love with the bald lug.
As for the rest, I never meant that he or mythal were separate from the gods. Like I said earlier, for all intents and purposes, he IS Fen'harel. So we agree on the integrated bit. Once they were seperate, but now they are one.
And if it is an integrated thing where the souls are now one, Mythal being murdered and separated would indeed be very traumatic. She's losing a literal part of her.
Dismissive or not, that's what I think is a big motivater to favoring the other possibility over this.
I think a better question is does it truly matter anymore? Whether or not Solas' body is the Fen'harel or not, they are one right? So for all intents and purposes, Solas is Fen'harel, even if the body wasn't always.
But I do agree, it could go either way, even if I'm inclined to say it's the tok'ra gua'uld gig. I don't think Solas truly lies about anything though, just gives half truths. So him growing up in a small village is probably true.
If so, I could see some boy being chosen to be given to their god, which would be considered the highest of honors I'd imagine.
Well let me ask you this. What is your opinion on Anders? I personally think Anders changed for the worse, however you could also assume that maybe Anders was heading that way anyway and eventually he would've become this broken un-happy person we meet in Kirkwall, without Justice's influence. Even if possessed Solas is one and the same with Fen'Harel now, at some point in the past they were two different entities with their own personalities' and thoughts. To me that's very important.
Anders corrupted Justice to Vengeance, so couldn't something like that have happened to Solas? What if Fen'Harel chose Solas because he wanted to restore's the Elvhen culture to what it was and Fen'Harel used that as an opportunity to change things? However, Solas carries so much sadness and regret I wonder just what he has had to do to in the past.
I would prefer Solas to be Fen'Harel but it's fascinating to think of the other options if he wasn't.
I don't. It would have to be that way for all Inquisitors. BW is slowly but surely forcing canon - big decisions are being reduced to minor things because of how many world states would have to exist for any big options. This is fine for me because it keeps the story tighter. I like having choices but I recognize that it's difficult to do on a practical level. So something like "becoming immortal" for one character that chose to romance another character...not seeing that happening.
My personal thoughts- it'd be more interesting if Solas gave it up(if he can). His immortality and power have brought him nothing but pain. Mythal didn't die but she is a shadow of what she once was. She is hell bent on justice for ONE thing. Her murder. She's also clearly unhinged. Not a life I would want to live. Abelas and friends are practically ghosts. Relics rotting in a rotting temple. The time for the immortals died a long time ago. You may have others clinging to the past but based on what we've seen, I wouldn't call it a good existence. So, in the wise words of Felix "There are worse things than dying."
Though I do recognize why the idea is romantic to a lot of people.
Yes this, this exactly. This is a better written version of what I was trying to say last page. I keep seeing theories on Lavellan having some unique possibilities and plots (becoming an elven god/legend, becoming immortal, etc) that I just really don't think is going to happen. Not unless it happens to all Inquisitors or if it happens in the very last game of the series. I highly doubt BioWare will create so many variables going forward, based on the trajectory of the games so far. It's just too difficult to pull off and, if they were going to do it, all that would happen is that the Inquisitor would barely ever be mentioned again or just get one or two lines about them because it's too much work to include all the different possibilities in any meaningful way.
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