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Yep. Of these 3, the first and the third are the ones I'd be most happy with. The second one, not really :/

I agree - 1 and 3 seem the most likely, but Solas has been asleep for a 1000 years, which makes me lean toward option #1. I love posturing and I LOVE the theory crafting in this thread too. I just hope we get some real answers from Bioware soon.

 

edit: I think he slept for a 1000 years. I'm not sure about that number...



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But you wouldn't have fallen for an interesting person. You'd have fallen for two people. If one of them splits off again, then what? He's not the same person anymore.

 

Yes. But I also did not fall for somebody who simply says "Sorry for distracting you, see ya", who then promises me to explain himself after the fight with Corypheus "if we both survive", and who further breaks this promise by just leaving without a word.

In short: you never see all of a person and whatever you fall for might not be the (whole) truth.

Sure, it is a bad situation, because you love something that does not exist as such. But this story is also pretty common in the real world. Even if you knew your lover at one time, people change and might not stay the same person for all their life. Painful but not unrealistic.

Is it less interesting because of that? For me personally it would be a rather interesting twist to see what the "rest of Solas" is like without Fen'Harel. (Though I do not see a Solas-without-Fen'Harel. Since I assume a merge there can be no simple separation. Should the latter ever leave it will likely be because Solas is bound to die. Or he will die in the process.)


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Yeah Flemeth is kind of confusing when talking about Mythal. Sometimes Flemeth separates herself from her but then will switch as if she's Mythal. I don't know it's weird. Maybe you're right in that blending a human and immortal being is different to that of a spirit. Either way I think the implications would be fascinating. 

 

I don't think Lavellan need anymore BS though with what she already has to deal with. Not that your ex-lover being an Elvhen God, aka "The Boogeyman" would make thing easier for her lol

I suppose it would be hard for her to wrap her mind around it, but she's supposedly a smart gal right? :lol: I hope you lot are, lol. I'm sure she can understand that the man she knows is one man, whether they started that way or not. It'd only be problematic if he chose to blend with someone...

 

Which we know luckily is not what happened at the end of the game. He just got power, if those game notes are still accurate. Otherwise, you're all in for one incredibly awkward conversation later.


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French Solas : D

Heeeey this is HOT! Also is that the voice of fancy-mustache Stroud I hear? Either way I like it. I adore Solas' English voice though. First thing I liked about him but this French sounds sexy.

 

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I suppose it would be hard for her to wrap her mind around it, but she's supposedly a smart gal right? :lol: I hope you lot are, lol. I'm sure she can understand that the man she knows is one man, whether they started that way or not. It'd only be problematic if he chose to blend with someone...

 

Which we know luckily is not what happened at the end of the game. He just got power, if those game notes are still accurate. Otherwise, you're all in for one incredibly awkward conversation later.

You talking Lavellan being smart right?  I have severe questions on just how smart Lavellan actually is. Asks question about culture that (As a first) should know and grew up knowing. Not knowing any elvish to save her life.   Seriously "Who is Mythal?" 

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You talking Lavellan being smart right?  I have severe questions on just how smart Lavellan actually is. Asks question about culture that (As a first) should know and grew up knowing. Not knowing any elvish to save her life.   Seriously "Who is Mythal?" 

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Conversation option:  Who is Mythal?

Lavellan:  So tell me about this Mythal.

 

Everyone else:  Uh, aren't you Dalish?

 

Lavellan:  Maaaaybe *looks around and runs away*


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You talking Lavellan being smart right?  I have severe questions on just how smart Lavellan actually is. Asks question about culture that (As a first) should know and grew up knowing. Not knowing any elvish to save her life.   Seriously "Who is Mythal?"

Haha! I ran through Mythal's Temple last night on one of my Lavellans and I was so annoyed by her lack of knowledge even with the Elf and History Perks.


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Yes. But I also did not fall for somebody who simply says "Sorry for distracting you, see ya", who then promises me to explain himself after the fight with Corypheus "if we both survive", and who further breaks this promise by just leaving without a word.

In short: you never see all of a person and whatever you fall for might not be the (whole) truth.

Sure, it is a bad situation, because you love something that does not exist as such. But this story is also pretty common in the real world. Even if you knew your lover at one time, people change and might not stay the same person for all their life. Painful but not unrealistic.

Is it less interesting because of that? For me personally it would be a rather interesting twist to see what the "rest of Solas" is like without Fen'Harel. (Though I do not see a Solas-without-Fen'Harel. Since I assume a merge there can be no simple separation. Should the latter ever leave it will likely be because Solas is bound to die. Or he will die in the process.)

 

Nope. He says everything will become clear after the battle. That doesn't mean he will tell us. He's sneaky that way. And cruel.



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You talking Lavellan being smart right?  I have severe questions on just how smart Lavellan actually is. Asks question about culture that (As a first) should know and grew up knowing. Not knowing any elvish to save her life.   Seriously "Who is Mythal?" 

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LOL, then there may be a problem...

 

Sounds like the devs struggling to make a game for loyal fans and new players.



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Aren't they? I definitely have an elf fetish.
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http://ralione.tumbl...666357175/dorks
**I swear somewhere in the games said that elves were popular. . . Or maybe that was a fanfiction somewhere. . . I read too much.


Cute artwork. xD

I think Zevran did say in DAO that humans generally find elves beautiful. I think they also mentioned it in The Stolen Throne as well, if I'm not mistaken. So I could see elves being popular somewhat.
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Conversation option:  Who is Mythal?

Lavellan:  So tell me about this Mythal.

 

Everyone else:  Uh, aren't you Dalish?

 

Lavellan:  Maaaaybe *looks around and runs away*

I kept pressing those option in the hope that she'd speak up and explain that she already knew that.  Or ask a real question.
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http://dreaddwolf.tu...-about-fenharel

 


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LOL, then there may be a problem...

 

Sounds like the devs struggling to make a game for loyal fans and new players.

The whole area of storyline, dialogue, and development around the Well of Sorrows is messed up, Someone was drunk that day when they approved it.


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Excellent. maybe elves can win the seduction game.


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Excellent. maybe elves can win the seduction game.

Just say something in elven and wiggle those ears and I'm sold.


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I wish there was an option when Mythal reveals herself, to drop to your knees and start praying, meanwhile Flemeth just cackles at you.


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I suppose it would be hard for her to wrap her mind around it, but she's supposedly a smart gal right? :lol: I hope you lot are, lol. I'm sure she can understand that the man she knows is one man, whether they started that way or not. It'd only be problematic if he chose to blend with someone...

 

Which we know luckily is not what happened at the end of the game. He just got power, if those game notes are still accurate. Otherwise, you're all in for one incredibly awkward conversation later.

Yep I could totally imagine that conversation:

 

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Just say something in elven and wiggle those ears and I'm sold.

Not possible. The technology tree demands a Civil Service requirement and that takes 10 turns. That's about 10 years per turn.


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A small off-topic question (since I'm in the middle of doing it now); did anyone ever allow the War table missions to run their duration?

I'll admit I always cheese it by changing the date/time on my PS4, partially because I hate leaving an area unfinished but mostly because I can't stand the real-time duration on missions. This isn't a mobile game, Bioware! Cut that crap out! But seriously I love you, Bioware. *smooch smooch*


You...you can do that...

I ran every single war table mission in real time. (Does this mean I win...)
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Not possible. The technology tree demands a Civil Service requirement and that takes 10 turns. That's about 10 years per turn.

Ten years per turn? Say what? Lol I'll just run down to the pearl then, lol. No one's worth that long a wait!


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Ten years per turn? Say what? Lol I'll just run down to the pearl then, lol. No one's worth that long a wait!

Oh lol wait, it's a strategy game joke :lol: I failed. I haven't played those in a while.


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I don't know about the romance part. Yes, maybe it seems cooler to say "A god loves me" than "Some elf loves me". I am not a Solasmancer, so this is an emotion that eludes me. But if I were I would not care what he is. Because I would not have known who he is (Lavellan: not at all, player: until the ending scene), so I would not have fallen for a god but simply for an interesting person.

 

It has nothing to do with him being a god or not. Personally, I see him as 'some elf' regardless of the outcome. I don't personally think that any of the elven gods were legitimately deities. I could be wrong, of course. I'm always willing to change my mind when additional lore finds its way to us. I'm just attempting to explain my mindset here. 

 

There's two reasons why I tend to side against the idea that Solas is Solas+Fen'Harel. 

 

The first reason is what I stated earlier. I think Solas's story is much more interesting when all of the mistakes he has made belong solely to him. There's no shared burden. He's a singular flawed character rather than two that became one. There's no easy out. There's no way to brush a sin underneath a rug. Every life taken, every error in judgement- it is all on him alone. He is dreaded. For all we know, maybe he's beyond redemption.

 

The second reason I'm not a fan of the idea is because it somewhat muddles the situation going on with Mythal and Flemeth. Mythal clawed through the ages to get to Flemeth. If this was something that all of the elven gods did, and was common knowledge- why use such strong wording? Why is Solas seemingly surprised to see her still alive? Why not emerge sooner? 

 

It seems more likely he's just Fen'Harel, and Mythal is the unique case. 

 

[As for the other part, about them not separating- I do agree. I was simply using that example because it is a common idea people have as a way to get a happy ending.]


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Ten years per turn? Say what? Lol I'll just run down to the pearl then, lol. No one's worth that long a wait!

Should have asked your mother to stay faithful to your marginally infertile father than ran off to have cake and tea with her lover so you could be born in a better age. 



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Should have asked your mother to stay faithful to your marginally infertile father than ran off to have cake and tea with her lover so you could be born in a better age. 

I was adopted. I don't know my mother.



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I wish there was an option when Mythal reveals herself, to drop to your knees and start praying, meanwhile Flemeth just cackles at you.

Haha! Instead we have "Pleased to meet you" wtf.. like she is just a normal person :D



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I was adopted. I don't know my mother.

 It's a good thing you a herald of andraste because you wouldn't inherit sh*t as an outside child of the Trevelyan house.