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But Ulfric does exactly what the Dominion wants by fighting a civil war, all he does is waste human manpower and makes it even more difficult for the empire to recover.

 

The Dominion likes the civil war because it depletes both sides but in the 30 years since the The White-Gold Concordat was signed the only thing the Empire has rebuilt is Cyrodiil. Skyrim is better off not being a province of the Empire and it owes the Mede dynasty no loyalty, independence increases their odds against the Dominion because resources are not being funnelled into defending Cyrodiil. The "Empire" loses another territory but it's been hemorrhaging them since the Oblivion crisis, all empires eventually fall.   


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Wait, what are we talking about.  :huh:



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I ended up...never doing the civil war stuff. Both sides sucked and I had dragons to fight.

 

Yeeahhh, the last I saw of what I assumed to be the main plot, I was told to go talk to some very loud guys with beards.  My elf was like, "k", and ran off to do everything except that, pff.  There was also a glimpse of that Stormcloak/Imperial stuff, then he turned around and had nothing to do with it.  Too busy playing Harry Potter and running around randomly in the wilderness.



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Those loyalists weren't even given a choice initially. Their Jarls were given gold and told to shut their mouths when the WGC came, and the rebels simply refused when Ulfric gave them another option.

The empire isn't "abandoning them". That would assume that the Empire is fighting for them, rather than the other way around.

I still disagree but we're pretty off topic. I could go on forever about this (I'm from Northern Ireland)

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Wait, what are we talking about.  :huh:

 

Skyrim it seems. I never played it so I'm lost too. xD


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Yeah. My Lavellan was also very aware that she could be in Solas' situation if it wasn't for the Anchor since they're both elven mages so she really felt that since she has power in the Inquisition (even if at the start she's just a high ranking agent) she should use it to protect someone she cares about (although it was a 'I care about you platontically' during Haven. She didn't start getting feelings for him romantically until In Hushed Whispers)


Yeah, mine isn't a mage, she's a warrior. But she would protect someone of her own kind to the ends of the earth, especially if she cared about them, even platonically. Her feelings for Solas grow gradually over the time they spent in Haven to the point where when they get to Skyhold and the Fade scene, she actually is a little surprised to find herself kissing him, but then she feels like it should have been obvious (hind sight is 20/20) she just didn't notice her feelings because of all the other **** that was going on.
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I still disagree but we're pretty off topic. I could go on forever about this (I'm from Northern Ireland)

As could I (American ;) ) And I'm "The Stormcloak Guy" pretty much everywhere I go, especially on Bethesda's forums, so I could and will likely go on forever if you let me :P That's why made my tumblr blog in the first place, since not enough people see or know all there is to know about the lore and the big picture. A lot of people stop at racism, as if having them is somehow unique to anyone in real life or TES. And it's a mistake. I blame Oblivion for making them seem like boyscouts. You had to really pay attention and look past the colorful shiny fantasy paint to notice just how crummy the Empire is:

 

 

Like I said, people are free to pm me for anything more on it, lore or otherwise.



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Yeeahhh, the last I saw of what I assumed to be the main plot, I was told to go talk to some very loud guys with beards.  My elf was like, "k", and ran off to do everything except that, pff.  There was also a glimpse of that Stormcloak/Imperial stuff, then he turned around and had nothing to do with it.  Too busy playing Harry Potter and running around randomly in the wilderness.

Ha! The Harry Potter missions were the best. I've always loved using magic in ES games. Way better than the mage stuff in Oblivion. Though Oblivion had the better Dark Brotherhood questline. I'm split on whether the Thieves' Guild stuff was better in Oblivion or not, but I'm leaning towards yes. Skyrim didn't have nearly enough heist missions.

 

The elf faces were a bit to craggy for me. And I usually play as a Breton anyways.

 

And...we're pretty off-topic now.  :lol:  Quick! Someone talk about Solas.


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Ok, I think I just found something really cool....oh god, that voice!

 

http://www.amazon.co...s/dp/B004TYR1IM

 

Edit: Ok, I bought it and it's like having Solas read Lovecraft to you. So hard to focus on the words when you just want to drown in the sound of his voice.

 

I AM IN AWE THAT THIS IS A THING

Lovecraft-Dragon Age crossover links confirmed 

(which is totally what I would be reading right now if I didn't need to study uggggh) 


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Skyrim it seems. I never played it so I'm lost too. xD

 

Oh. I played it but I literally didn't do any of the main quest so idk. lol.

 

Who is from Ireland?

 

Ireland is my favorite place on all the entire earth, second only to Disneyland.


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Oh. I played it but I literally didn't do any of the main quest so idk. lol.

 

Who is from Ireland?

 

Ireland is my favorite place on all the entire earth, second only to Disneyland.

I wish I was Irish. Does that count? :(. Being Canadian is so boring...I want some badass heritage. 


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I wish I was Irish. Does that count? :(. Being Canadian is so boring...I want some badass heritage. 

Psh, being Canadian is awesome. You had to be a badass to even survive in Canada way back when.

 

Plus, Bioware is Canadian. ;)


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I ended up...never doing the civil war stuff. Both sides sucked and I had dragons to fight.

 

I usually end up not doing the main quest.  I have a Thieves Guild to restore!



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As could I (American ;) ) And I'm "The Stormcloak Guy" pretty much everywhere I go, especially on Bethesda's forums, so I could and will likely go on forever if you let me :P That's why made my tumblr blog in the first place, since not enough people see or know all there is to know about the lore and the big picture. A lot of people stop at racism, as if having them is somehow unique to anyone in real life or TES. And it's a mistake. I blame Oblivion for making them seem like boyscouts. You had to really pay attention and look past the colorful shiny fantasy paint to notice just how crummy the Empire is:



Like I said, people are free to pm me for anything more on it, lore or otherwise.

I'll admit that I don't know as much elder scroll lore as I should by now. I like how the civil war was portrayed, they could have went with the Braveheart route of having an evil foreign power oppressing the natives who all rise up in unity.

They went with the population roughly divided 50/50, which reminds me of my country so I chose to support the side that I support irl lol.

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Psh, being Canadian is awesome. You had to be a badass to even survive in Canada way back when.

 

Plus, Bioware is Canadian. ;)

That is true. Plus everyone loves Canada eh?


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Ha! The Harry Potter missions were the best. I've always loved using magic in ES games. Way better than the mage stuff in Oblivion. Though Oblivion had the better Dark Brotherhood questline. I'm split on whether the Thieves' Guild stuff was better in Oblivion or not, but I'm leaning towards yes. Skyrim didn't have nearly enough heist missions.

 

The elf faces were a bit to craggy for me. And I usually play as a Breton anyways.

 

And...we're pretty off-topic now.  :lol:  Quick! Someone talk about Solas.

 

You on PC?  Etheral Elven Overhaul is the best for the elves.  It keeps the sharp angles of the faces, but just makes them look a lot nicer. 

 

On topic: I really want to see more romance scenes with Solas.  I'm happy with no sex scene but I'd love a 'I want to spend time with you option.'  Reading together, taking a nap together to Fade-wander, taking walk together.  Sweet and mushy stuff to make the heartbreak worse at the end of the game.


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Oh. I played it but I literally didn't do any of the main quest so idk. lol.

 

Who is from Ireland?

 

Ireland is my favorite place on all the entire earth, second only to Disneyland.

-.- NORTHERN Ireland lol



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You guysssss my bestie got me an awesome necklace! I love it so! <333

 Now I can always have the egg close to my heart. <3

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er.. if you don't mind some seriously tin-foil theorizing, and start with the assumption that all spirits and demons are essentially souls (some of which manage to maintain a sense of self or memory after their physical death) it's possible that the Forbidden Ones are the souls of some of the more powerful rebel leaders killed in the failed Revolution. Since they actually died, they weren't put on trial and sentenced to void imprisonment like the Forgotten Ones, but Falon'Din considered them too much of a risk to reincarnate.

 

Solas: "Some of your forces, valuable until now, have no interests beyond creating disruption. Chaos for its own sake. They must be repositioned where they can do no harm, or removed if necessary. You replace them with organizers willing to build a new system and carry out the ugly work that must be done."

 

The bolded part is suggestive, at the very least.  They threat they pose as demons is less than they would if reborn, and thus they remain trapped: disembodied and angry spirits with full knowledge of blood magic and an interest in sowing chaos.  

 

This is all supposition, of course!   But it's a plausible explanation to consider.

 

sorry madrar I forgot to reply to this because of CK2 :lol: OTL

 

Anyway, if I'm getting this right, what you're saying is the first demons were punished dead-so-already-in-the-Fade elves, probably lieutenants of Fen'Harel/Falon'din's first rebellion?

 

...I don't know *holds head*. I'm still trying to wrap my head around your theory. My brain always goes "heck no" whenever I read it, though I'm trying to give it a chance and my rejection's no longer quite so violent lately. I'll get back to you after I've managed to wrap my mind around it some more.


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-.- NORTHERN Ireland lol

 

Well, I didn't go to Northern Ireland, but all the same I love Ireland.



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And...we're pretty off-topic now.  :lol:  Quick! Someone talk about Solas.

Okay, Solas' mama is so fat, the only thing thin about her is the veil, because she's probably flattening it ;)

 

That count? :P


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Like I said, people are free to pm me for anything more on it, lore or otherwise.

 

Should you guys go on about this in PMs please make sure to forward them to me, I am very interested in this debate. That issue was the only story worth mentioning in Skyrim and I had an awfully hard time picking sides.

(Though Keith Moon is involved, I might be biased.)


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Okay, Solas' mama is so fat, the only thing thin about her is the veil, because she's probably flattening it ;)

 

That count? :P

Psh, no. But admirable try, Killabee.


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Should you guys go on about this in PMs please make sure to forward them to me, I am very interested in this debate. That issue was the only story worth mentioning in Skyrim and I had an awfully hard time picking sides.

(Though Keith Moon is involved, I might be biased.)

Will do, I'll invite you to one.



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And on the subject of Gideon - I discovered him first through FFXII which I pretty much lived on when it came out. This is what made Fenris the canon Hawke romance for me. His character is still pretty annoying, but less so than the other romances and DAT VOICE.

 

He will always be Balthier to me though  :wub:

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Same for me... Gideon Emery RUINED DA2 for me! I only did the romance because of dat sexy Balthier voice, mmmmh. Big mistake. Couldn't compensate for the horror that was the Fenris romance *sigh*

Well, I guess it could have been worse. I could have bedded a possessed terrorist...