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[NightSymphony]

There is a mod for DA:O where you can kiss Cullen and have a small romance with him in the beginning of the game.  Has anyone here used it?  I'm curious if I should bother getting it.

[Siha]

 That's why I love that Solas dumps Lavellan if she kills Wisdom.

 

He didn't dump me and I tried really hard beyond simply killing his friend and being all cold about it.

 

 

There is a mod for DA:O where you can kiss Cullen and have a small romance with him in the beginning of the game.  Has anyone here used it?  I'm curious if I should bother getting it.

 

Nooooo, that would totally destroy the sweet awkwardness (and violate everything he is).

[BlueElf2]

Psh, being Canadian is awesome. You had to be a badass to even survive in Canada way back when.

 

Plus, Bioware is Canadian.

So Canada is like the Australia of North America? =P I'm just a boring American. I have always wanted to go to Ireland...and Scotland....and Japan...lots of places really. Maybe the Solas thread can plan a group trip. LOL.

[Avejajed]

Personally..I like when characters have a romantic preference. It makes them more real.  Solas only likes female elves..  Dorian only likes men. It's like the real world. When a character is romancable to everyone, it makes the romance less special.. to me anyway.

 

I like this a lot.

[Satsumi]

There is a mod for DA:O where you can kiss Cullen and have a small romance with him in the beginning of the game.  Has anyone here used it?  I'm curious if I should bother getting it.

I did.  It's very cute.  Short, but cute.  You get a necklace too

[nikki-tikki]

So Canada is like the Australia of North America? =P I'm just a boring American. I have always wanted to go to Ireland...and Scotland....and Japan...lots of places really. Maybe the Solas thread can plan a group trip. LOL.

No Australia is the Canada of...that area. Or was it New Zealand...I don't remember. 

[Janic99]

This looks like an illustration from one of those cautionary fairy tales you'd tell children.

Heyoo when is the next drawing chat x3 I would've liked to join!!

[Dayze]

I have to wonder how many times Solas has done this.

 

There is corypheus currently; possibly the TV-Miniseries with Tallis, the qunari mage and the mask of the dread wolf creating rips in the skies.

 

Maybe w/Andraste, could even explain why their gods didn't answer, Solas locked them out just like he did the elven gods if he was shartan.

 

That "shadow woman w/the army of demons" back in the day that is never really fully fleshed out, seems similiar to what Corypheus did.

 

Him sealing off the elven gods.

 

At the very least; the mask shows he had more than one item capable of doing what the orb does, so obviously he's put "a lot" of time and thought into it.

 

That and well; blood magic.

[The Oracle]

There is a mod for DA:O where you can kiss Cullen and have a small romance with him in the beginning of the game.  Has anyone here used it?  I'm curious if I should bother getting it.

 

It's on youtube. I spotted it and watched the video. It's very small and just a reuse of his dialogue, but still, it's good if you want to headcanon that there was more between Cullen/Warden than just a crush.

[Illyria]

There is a mod for DA:O where you can kiss Cullen and have a small romance with him in the beginning of the game.  Has anyone here used it?  I'm curious if I should bother getting it.

 

It's sweet (I used it for my Amell who never made it past Ostagar).  You get a fairly decent amulet out of it and the kiss is... wow.

[Siha]

It has nothing to do with him hating mages - it has everything to do with his experience with Surana/ Amell in the circle who he clearly loved from afar. When he said that he was essentially in love with someone for quite some time and had only just recently begun to get over it (I'm talking 10+ years of devotion to someone who never even kissed him), I think that's relevant. It's clear he has a type/ ideal and that's just what people have.

But that's not how the game is and arguing the point is moot. He is interested in other people and that's fine. I just happen to really enjoy boundaries in gameplay and getting to experience the consequences of my actions. Being prevented from a questline, a romance, a character due to my personal choice is something I see as rewarding not punishing. That's just me and it doesn't have to be that way for anyone else!

 

He said "in love with someone for quite some time and just recently over it"? I played that romance I-don't-know-how-often and he always only said "It's been a very long time that I wanted anyone in my life. I did not think to find it here." and admitted to once having had an innocent "infatuation" for the hero. It never felt to me like he had given her all her heart and never gotten over her till the inquisitor.

 

You really think it would make sense that he could not fall in love with a warrior or rogue?

[Janic99]

Lavellan when Solas leaves

[Kappa Neko]

I support race/gender-gated romances. I'm on the fence about Solas. It makes sense, but there is no compelling reason why other races wouldn't work, help him overcome his prejudice since his disappointment is not limited to the Dalish, but all of current Thedas.

However, from a writer's perspective it probably allows for more interesting very specific content. We'd never have gotten the wonderful heart-breaking vallaslin scene with a different race. The Solas romance gives us a unique perspective on Solas. His romance adds a level to the tragedy of the Dalish inquisitor that none of the others have. Just as a female inquisitor will never know the heartbreak of romancing Cassandra and then making her divine.

Gender-gating Cass makes no difference to this tragic element, but the effect it has on the player is the same: replay value. I like it when I need to do multiple playthroughs to get additional, even significant, information. The vallaslin secret is not revealed anywhere else in the game, is it? I think that's cool. Flirting with Dorian as a woman was one of the most enjoyable things in the game for me. It was heartbreaking (or rather maddening) on a personal level, and I wish I could have romanced him, at the same time I'm glad I couldn't. So I'll have to do at least 3 PTs go experience my favorite characters in full.

[Sister Squish]

I would have quite liked to see Solas grapple with falling for someone who was not Elvhen. Especially as he is so closed minded about races (Sera and Varric conversations being a big clue to this). I guess it's based on having played a human friendship and Elf romance both. He had equal respect and admiration for the two characters. The only difference seemed to be that he was miffed at my Lavellan for her Dalishness and she had the option to hit on him. My human was never given an option to flirt or show interest or be rejected.

 

I guess it's just an extension of how I view the world myself. I have met partners who are not "my type" and who I initially had no interest in save friendship. But sometimes, as Tim Minchin said, you get that creepy-uppy type of love, where you can't help but fall for someone due to their very nature. I wonder how Solas would have coped with his convictions, if this had been the case for him. Decided to try and tackle it in a fanfic I'm writing. I'm too tired of all the beautiful, perfect, goddess Inquisitors. I wanna explore the slow burn, friendship-to-love of a really ordinary person trying to be extraordinary for everyone else. It floats my boat.

 

....   this so much. 

 

As @Kissiebear has mentioned, it gets a weird amount of hate so I try not to mention it. But +1 for TrevelyanxSolas. 

  It is a disconnect in logic for me that Solas is primarily concerned with spirits, and intellect, and the nature of things... and yet only be attracted to a certain bag of flesh. 

  It is not that I dislike gating in general, I sort of debate back and forth with myself about that subject. But for the character of Solas in particular, it makes little sense. 

  All of my real Life relationships, humorously, follow the same pattern as @the Oracle describes. Friends for years, sharing experiences, building that trust and slow-burn... and then one day, out of the blue, you realise that you wouldn't mind if life carried on that way. That the two of you wouldn't make too bad a couple. And then either of you mentions it, and the other agrees. Which is how I headcannon a relationship with Solas would go, since he is initially so distracted by everything...  spending time with the Inquisitor begins to change his outlook. 

  But, I console myself with devs having limited resources, so that story will remain in my head. 

[tsunamitigerdragon]

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[Siha]

Did you have Surana/ Amell loaded in your World State?

 

Yes. My canon Warden.

[BoscoBread]

I would get really annoyed if every character was bisexual as a "default" and so am glad that some characters are still just plain straight. Bisexual default would be a disservice to both bisexuals and straight people. Everyone wants representation, not a "well, good enough for the masses."

 

 

Budget, resources, blah blah blah... but in-game we can consider it that Solas has a preference. If he likes how elves look, either because that's what he is and is attracted to or because the elven form is most familiar to him considering he's just sort of an elven god, then good for him. I do agree that it was a bit odd not to have the opportunity to flirt with him as another race and to have him shut down a non-elf. I really would have liked to see that, and have that be an explanation on its own for his preferences. I do wonder why the option wasn't there -- VO work already done maybe?

Yeah...I'm mostly just trying to apply logic to emotional things which is just how I work.  Also it's a game so at the end of the day I can actually ask well "Why did you do it this way?"  Hard for me to divorce myself from that mindset.  He has prefences. Which is fine. It's as simple as that for me.  I don't question why Cullen only romances women and elves/humans. Don't give a crap. I don't - in the end - give a crap why Solas only romances female elves. It is what it is.  I expect the flirts were never put in because of the ol' chestnut of budget/time.  It truly sounds like it was the absolute last thing to go in there. 

 

My major dislike with this question actually is that it opens up this massive can of worms that there is a right way to play any romance and there's a wrong way. Or the right way to view it.  Like I appreciate the loreheads and the meaning they get from it and how it's woven into their view of the elves.  You learn how truly powerful they once were as a race and how far they fell.  I am geniunely excited to see more because I want to learn more about all the races in Thedas.    The vallaslin scene is beautiful. The truth he offers her is important. It's freedom.   That's what I love about it. The meaning behind the truth. Why he did it. That's why I cried the first time I watched it.  Not because it was vallaslin.  Not because she was an elf.  Because he treasured her freedom from ignorance. He wanted to give her a choice.   I would have probably had the same reaction if it was a Qunari/Qunari and there was some truth learned about the Qun as long as it was as well put together as that one was.

[NightSymphony]

Lavellan when Solas leaves

Yes!  Also her song  "White Flag"

[Uirebhiril]

I support race/gender-gated romances. I'm on the fence about Solas. It makes sense, but there is no compelling reason why other races wouldn't work, help him overcome his prejudice since his disappointment is not limited to the Dalish, but all of current Thedas.

 

The idea of this is something that would have disturbed me had it been in game. If Solas is going to change his views on modern Thedas and the other races, it should be something he comes to on his own, based not just on a romantic interlude but the friendships and experiences that he had while with the Inquisition. If it were something so basic and cliche as "the lady human's sweet words of love turned me!" I would lose a lot of respect for the character and be really put off by the writing. Big changes like that can be influenced by those around you, but should not be tied to a love story. Solas was attracted to Lavellan and loved her for who she was, and certainly that did open his eyes a bit - but he also had Varric, and Cassandra, and Bull, and even Sera and Blackwall to learn and possibly grow from. No romance required. Nor should it be.

[Addai]

I would have quite liked to see Solas grapple with falling for someone who was not Elvhen. Especially as he is so closed minded about races (Sera and Varric conversations being a big clue to this). I guess it's based on having played a human friendship and Elf romance both. He had equal respect and admiration for the two characters. The only difference seemed to be that he was miffed at my Lavellan for her Dalishness and she had the option to hit on him. My human was never given an option to flirt or show interest or be rejected.
 
I guess it's just an extension of how I view the world myself. I have met partners who are not "my type" and who I initially had no interest in save friendship. But sometimes, as Tim Minchin said, you get that creepy-uppy type of love, where you can't help but fall for someone due to their very nature. I wonder how Solas would have coped with his convictions, if this had been the case for him. Decided to try and tackle it in a fanfic I'm writing. I'm too tired of all the beautiful, perfect, goddess Inquisitors. I wanna explore the slow burn, friendship-to-love of a really ordinary person trying to be extraordinary for everyone else. It floats my boat.

Even though I've done this kind of story line in previous games, I find it walks the line of triteness, especially when our PC's are already mary sues who overcome all obstacles and know no boundaries they can't cross. Having an elven god who says he barely has any experience of humans suddenly not just come to respect, but fall in love with, a human woman, that's not realistic to me. I really don't believe that "love conquers all." Infatuation can happen anywhere, but without some basic compatibility, it's not likely to last.

In short, as Killabee already knows, I like the gating. The characters feel much more fully realized in DAI than in DA2 where they were walking codexes and "playersexual" romance bots. I do feel like with Solas I hit the jackpot, though, and I don't expect future games to suit me that well.

[Avejajed]

[tsunamitigerdragon]

Yes. My canon Warden.

 

I'll rewatch the vids and if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. Totally willing to accept that. 

I'd be willing to accept a lot of things if people said that's just not what they were into. If Sera was only into Qunari women, I'd be so down with that. I just don't feel the need to personally affronted by what people are into. That's their thing.

If you need Cullen to be into all classes, WHICH HE IS, that's cool. It's canon. I accept that. What I suggested clearly isn't, nor am I claiming it to be. Like Qunari only Sera. I just find those possibilities interesting. You don't have to.

[tsunamitigerdragon]

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[Rabbitonfire]

Heyoo when is the next drawing chat x3 I would've liked to join!!

It's coming on Saturday, 7th of Feb 4pm. I'm finding a solution right now. There was an overcrowded last week and only 10 people are allowed to get in a hangout. Even then 10 people talking was chaotic so I'm experimenting to have better control of the chatroom, the trade-off is that it is invite-only so people can't come and go like the public hangout unless they sent me their gmail ahead of time. BUT for people not feeling the need to contribute in conversation or screensharing, they will be able to view the livestream with the ability to comment and applause(vote) for what screen they would like to view. As well as a Q & A for anyone on the livestream. 

 

I also found out that anyone could block which is bad for the blockee who can't listen to the conversation from the blocker so they would be missing half of the conversation. Using hangout air means I can act as an admin. While I would ideally like things to be carefree, I'm concerned about the potential problems to come.

 

I'm hoping to test this out around midnight when I finish up my work.

[BoscoBread]

Even though I've done this kind of story line in previous games, I find it walks the line of triteness, especially when our PC's are already mary sues who overcome all obstacles and know no boundaries they can't cross. Having an elven god who says he barely has any experience of humans suddenly not just come to respect, but fall in love with, a human woman, that's not realistic to me. I really don't believe that "love conquers all." Infatuation can happen anywhere, but without some basic compatibility, it's not likely to last.

In short, as Killabee already knows, I like the gating. The characters feel much more fully realized in DAI than in DA2 where they were walking codexes and "playersexual" romance bots. I do feel like with Solas I hit the jackpot, though, and I don't expect future games to suit me that well.

I didn't like the pansexual romances of DA2 much either.  With Zevran it made sense with me for whatever reason but he was a big ol' ****. Loved him for it.  I also think we are trying to pour meaning into the why and at the end of the day it's just...love.   it really doesn't need to be anything more than that. Yes...as a player you can pick it apart and see how important it is to the overall lore but for your PC and Solas, it's their relationship.  It doesn't matter what it means to history.  They just care what they mean to eachother.