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In the context of the in-game dialogue, if we are going for Korean analogues, "seonsaengnim" would be more appropriate. "Seonsaengnim" is the honorific for "teacher" or a person who ranks above you in knowledge or professional standing. 

 

So like Sensei in Japanese or Magister in Latin (and Trevinter!)


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That's how I saw it, I mean, it all makes sense to those of us that either befriended or romanced him.  Those who didn't care to try are calling him the elven satan...

 

Edit: I mean, after the stinger how would people have felt about him? If we hadn't had that? It's not something I've thought about, but a lot of people freaked out and now only see him as evil incarnate..

 

Edit again: ToP Solas.

 

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My first playthrough I went Travelyan and started off romancing Blackwall. That was pretty dull so when I finished his revelations quest, I dumped him and Cullen comforted me through the rest of that game. He was sweet, but a bit boring. My Trav got along super well with Solas (I played a mage) and I thought he was a great character, then I saw the stinger and I was stunned. How had I missed that? Were there clues? Was I too busy smooching DA Ken on the ramparts to see what was right in front of me? I HAD to know more about Solas. So I rolled up a mage Lavellan for the sole purpose of getting to know him better and I fell hard. Even knowing what was coming didn't dampen the depth of my heartache. Best Bioware romance ever. My favorite Bioware companion of all time. I could never hate Solas. Angry, hurt, disappointed? You bet!

 

Now I'm on my 3rd playthough because....feels. *crawls into the pillow fort*


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That's the impression I got as well. He told Lavellan that all would become clear if they both survived the final fight with Coryphfish, then Lavellan broke the orb closing the breach. I felt so bad about that, because that means it's really my fault he left when he did.

 

 

The Inquisitor doesn't break the orb. It falls to the ground and looks to be destroyed by falling rocks and rubble. Why it was dropped is a good question, but I'd guess it's really heavy or hot or something rather than a "meh, done with this" sort of tossing aside.

 

That's an excellent question. I thought it was the latter, honestly, because it's strongly implied that he's going to do some morally questionable things for what he thinks is the greater good. (I mean, he drains Mythal's essence in the stinger because he feels so desperate.) But now that you mentioned the former? Yeah, it could also be the Fen'Harel stigma.

 

I'd really like to see whatever Solas has to do not be wrong or evil, even if it might mean a lot of wading into gray and questionable areas. Kind of like the choice between Harrowmont or Bhelen -- one guy seems nice and honorable but choosing him isn't doing the dwarves a favor, while picking the "clearly bad" choice actually gives all dwarves a chance at a better life and not have them fall to riots and strife. Having Solas go all villain or evil on us could be an interesting and compelling story, but since everyone is expecting that it would be wonderful to see the writing point at everyone's expectations and laugh. :P


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With all this talk of personality contributing to attractiveness, I'd like to leave a few examples here.  ;)

http://dragonage.wik...i/The_Architect

http://dragonage.wik.../wiki/Corypheus

http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Dumat(I like the strong, silent type.  ^_^ )

Are we going to talk about how amazing the Architect is?  I love him.  He's so wonderful.  *twirls in place and swoons* 



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My first playthrough I went Travelyan and started off romancing Blackwall. That was pretty dull so when I finished his revelations quest, I dumped him and Cullen comforted me through the rest of that game. He was sweet, but a bit boring. My Trav got along super well with Solas (I played a mage) and I thought he was a great character, then I saw the stinger and I was stunned. How had I missed that? Were there clues? Was I too busy smooching DA Ken on the ramparts to see what was right in front of me? I HAD to know more about Solas. So I rolled up a mage Lavellan for the sole purpose of getting to know him better and I fell hard. Even knowing what was coming didn't dampen the depth of my heartache. Best Bioware romance ever. My favorite Bioware companion of all time. I could never hate Solas. Angry, hurt, disappointed? You bet!

 

Now I'm on my 3rd playthough because....feels. *crawls into the pillow fort*

 

Yup, well I romanced Solas first since that was my plan all along, now I can't do anyone else, like others have said..it felt like I hit the jackpot with a Mage Lavellan romancing him, fantastic experience, he's my favourite romance/character of the series now too.  I'm not even disappointed that I can't bring myself to romance anybody else :D


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So like Sensei in Japanese or Magister in Latin (and Trevinter!)

I'm so sorry, but I have to do this joke because you guys are talking about honorifics.

 

"Please, Duncan-Sensei, don't send me into the Deep Roads! :crying: "


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Erm, so, guys, since the breakup happens when you talk to Solas after the Temple... what happens if you don't talk to him? x) Does it force the cutscene on you or...? Vain hope.



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Are we going to talk about how amazing the Architect is?  I love him.  He's so wonderful.  *twirls in place and swoons* 

 

.....

 

Solas Disapproves Greatly

 

"Ir Abelas, Asha. SMH."


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Erm, so, guys, since the breakup happens when you talk to Solas after the Temple... what happens if you don't talk to him? x) Does it force the cutscene on you or...? Vain hope.

 

At the end it will just be like you were friends :(.



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At the end it will just be like you were friends :(.

 

Aw that's naff. Dx

 

Well, I'm not going to get it over with any time soon. See you later guys! I'll be back in a blubbering mess when I'm done. :)



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I suppose some like the idea of their really young Lavellan being in a "daddy" situation with Solas, and they are welcome to their headcanon and fantasy. Not passing judgement. Just noting that the terms seem to be used as if they mean something other than what they do, and it is a bit jarring for someone who might be a language/lore nerd and find it out of place. :P

Also my Lavellan is close in apparent age to Solas and would give him such a look if he persisted in calling her a child and likely accuse him of having some questionable ideas. And then kick him in the shin.

You know, this is actually something I have worried about in going into my chronicling of Lysaris Lavellan's playthrough because she IS so much younger than him (I have her canoned at around 23) and she DOES have some Daddy issues. But Solas has nothing to do with that. Their relationship is one based out of mutual respect and understanding of one another not... well, I hope it comes across, anyway. She's not a broken person, so it should. I hope...

Gonna be honest, I really hope that locking the romance in after Solas breaks up with you means that something more will come. I hope it isn't some weird programming thing that forces a romance to be locked in at some point because it has to be saved in the Keep or whatever. I really really hope that the romance has some significant treatment and/or consequences (hopefully positive).
Another thought, you guys know how Weekes had said on the phone at PAX that he wrote the Solas romance because he wanted to take every chance possible to humanize him so that he wouldn't seem too much like a villain? Do yall think he meant because of the reveal at the end that Solas is Fen'Harel and Fen'Harel has a **** load of stigma behind him or do yall think it is because of what is to come? I kinda want to tweet him about this, but I think that is something that he probably wouldn't answer due to spoilers.



I was thinking... more or less... if Weekes had not 'humanized' him, we would get to the end and go. "WTF? So we were just a pawn in his elven chess game this whole time? What a douche." But we don't do that because we come to the understanding that Solas really loves, cares about, and cherishes pawns, and only utilizes them because he has the understanding that their percieved 'weakness' gives them greater value.

My first playthrough I went Travelyan and started off romancing Blackwall. That was pretty dull so when I finished his revelations quest, I dumped him and Cullen comforted me through the rest of that game. He was sweet, but a bit boring. My Trav got along super well with Solas (I played a mage) and I thought he was a great character, then I saw the stinger and I was stunned. How had I missed that? Were there clues? Was I too busy smooching DA Ken on the ramparts to see what was right in front of me? I HAD to know more about Solas. So I rolled up a mage Lavellan for the sole purpose of getting to know him better and I fell hard. Even knowing what was coming didn't dampen the depth of my heartache. Best Bioware romance ever. My favorite Bioware companion of all time. I could never hate Solas. Angry, hurt, disappointed? You bet!

Now I'm on my 3rd playthough because....feels. *crawls into the pillow fort*

You and me, both. Minus the bit about Blackwall. I ****** hate Blackwall. Or... rather, he's not my cup of tea.
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You know, this is actually something I have worried about in going into my chronicling of Lysaris Lavellan's playthrough because she IS so much younger than him (I have her canoned at around 23) and she DOES have some Daddy issues. But Solas has nothing to do with that. Their relationship is one based out of mutual respect and understanding of one another not... well, I hope it comes across, anyway. She's not a broken person, so it should. I hope...

 

I'm in the same boat as you.  Clariel's 23, and on top of the age difference, she's pretty inexperienced.  Though I at least gave her a happy, stable family life and awesome parents because I am sick of my poor PCs getting saddled with problems before the REAL problems of the game begin  :P  

 

And I'm one of those obnoxious writers who's incapable of writing generic, default Lavellan.  What can I say, I like mine!  :rolleyes:


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Aw that's naff. Dx

 

Well, I'm not going to get it over with any time soon. See you later guys! I'll be back in a blubbering mess when I'm done. :)

 

*is poised with blanket fort*


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If you all live in Crestwood, then I live in the Hissing Wastes...
 
*weeps*

Aw, but Death Valley with dwarven ruins is really awesome! Though SO points out (rudely) that it's got too much red rock to be Death Valley. He grew up there, so he's picky. :)



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How does the sun not set you on fire? I've always wondered that.  :huh:

 

I suppose it's blocked by the same magical force that keeps you from falling into the sky.
 



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I suppose it's blocked by the same magical force that keeps you from falling into the sky.
 

Excessive consumption of doughnuts?  :huh:


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I hope that is true. x) I never realized how few conversations you actually get with him. A lot of the time for me it's:

"Hello."

"I'll talk to you later."

"Dareth shiral."

 

I suppose it feels fuller if you just concentrate on story, but there's so much damn delicious side content that it feels like there's not a lot. It'd be nicer if he says something during gameplay to make up for it and remind me that, yes, I am doinking him.

 

Do we know if any other romances say something if the Inquisitor goes down? If so, then the chances he does too will be likely, but I can't say I've heard anything. He almost always curses (I don't even want to begin spelling that) in elven when I die.

 

Incidently, I love it if Solas dies in combat and Cole's there. The way he goes, "Solas, no!" and sounds really emotional about it makes me happysad. x)

Haha XD My Lavellan is weird, she is constantly shouting "Solas needs help!!", then I look at Solas and he's completely fine, with almost full health and his pretty barrier on, and I'm like "SHUT UP, he doesn't! >.>".

I wonder what has she been smoking? It's like as soon as someone even touches him she goes like "NNnnnnnNnOOoo Leeave him be!"


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I'm in the same boat as you.  Clariel's 23, and on top of the age difference, she's pretty inexperienced.  Though I at least gave her a happy, stable family life and awesome parents because I am sick of my poor PCs getting saddled with problems before the REAL problems of the game begin  :P

 

And I'm one of those obnoxious writers who's incapable of writing generic, default Lavellan.  What can I say, I like mine!  :rolleyes:

Firstly, I like your fics.  You're a good writer.  Clariel/Solas' relationship is adorable and believable.  It's YOUR Lavellan. She has a personality and that's great. 

 

I don't have issues with people naming their Lavellan's.  I like a Lavellan's with personality and some sort of sense of self and a Solas isn't a raging psycho, so OOC that it's not even him.     


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Excessive consumption of doughnuts?  :huh:

 

The anchor, silly.



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Here's an interesting thought. You know how Cole will start talking about a memory or a thought from one of your companions? We obviously can't have such an exchange with the PC since everyone's story and background will be different. So... if Cole were to bring up a thought or memory from your character, what would the banter look like?



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So like Sensei in Japanese or Magister in Latin (and Trevinter!)

I don't know enough Japanese to know for certain.

 

"Magister" might work: "magister" would be like Dr. (of both the Ph.D. and M.D. variety). Medieval magisters were the big scholars.

 

I told my students to call me "magister." I really can't make "magister" happen. It's not going to happen. But I will live the dream.


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Excessive consumption of doughnuts?  :huh:

Dunno about gravity lol and I know it's a joke, but jokes aside, if dwarves are resistant to magic, I assume the sun's rays are like magic, so it'd be cool if in game they were actually almost immune to sun damage, lol.



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The anchor, silly.

Oh, right. *slap forehead*

Geez, the ancient elves sure did like their multiple utility foci, didn't they?  ^_^


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I'm in the same boat as you.  Clariel's 23, and on top of the age difference, she's pretty inexperienced.  Though I at least gave her a happy, stable family life and awesome parents because I am sick of my poor PCs getting saddled with problems before the REAL problems of the game begin  :P  
 
And I'm one of those obnoxious writers who's incapable of writing generic, default Lavellan.  What can I say, I like mine!  :rolleyes:


Lysaris did get a MOSTLY happy childhood. Her mother died in childbirth with her brother and her father was really distant, but her relationship with her brother was rock solid and she had the whole rest of the clan to take care of her. She was definitely NOT an unhappy child, she just had some issues with her own father in particular. They didn't carry across into her other relationships the way some Daddy issues tend to. What I really needed was a reason why she would choose to weild a sword that is bigger than she is. So I chose MO: impress father. It didn't, and that goes without saying, but it did bring her and her brother closer in kind of a round about way. I don't think I'm capable of writing 'generic' Lavellan either, so you're in good company.

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Haha XD My Lavellan is weird, she is constantly shouting "Solas needs help!!", then I look at Solas and he's completely fine, with almost full health and his pretty barrier on, and I'm like "SHUT UP, he doesn't! >.>".
I wonder what has she been smoking? It's like as soon as someone even touches him she goes like "NNnnnnnNnOOoo Leeave him be!"


My Lavellan does the same thing, and I'm like "Are you serious? He's fine. Full bar of health, and nowhere near an enemy. He's better off than you are. Shouldn't you be worried for yourself?"
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