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Not sure if these were posted before, but I just saw these Woodland Realm inspired attire designs on Tumblr and I'm so in love with them! Definitely would've loved to see Lavellan wear these to Halamshiral. TT__TT

 

Source: http://thranduilfanf...-earthy-warrior

 

Some of my favorite dresses:

 

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I want this bag!

 

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Lovely headdress:

 

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And the boots! <3

 

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I want that bag too. And the boots but with a proper solid heel since I'd not feel stable walking on the one they have. I have a rule for shoes. If I can't do cartwheels in them then don't wear them.


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Yeah, I imagined her heart broke in a thousand pieces in that moment. There's adrenalin rushing through her veins and for once, that's *it*. There is no other pressing matter of grave concern that's hurrying her along. There is no army to be defeated, no enemy to be slain, no mystery to unravel and no side to win over. For once she is free. For a split second, she can forget every pain and heartache that it took to get here. And then she sees him, the one who makes her heart jump a little each time she sees him and he...doesn't even care. Doesn't even really look at her, but just stares at the broken pieces of an orb that just moments before could have been used to kill her.

 

And it's like she lost that final battle. And she doesn't even know why.

 

That's the point my Aithne puts a lot of the clues together and realises it was his orb to begin with.



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So. I had this theory. And it's probably not the strongest theory...

 

So when Cory attacks Haven and has his douchey monologue with you about his plan and tries to take the anchor from you, only to find out it is permanently attached to you...what if it was Solas who attached it to you.

 

"I do not know how you survived, but what marks you as 'touched', what you flail at rifts, I crafted to assault the very heavens."

 

Since Cory claims that he "made" the anchor, wouldn't he have known it was permanent? Could Solas have been the one to have somehow made it attached to you? Since he claims to have stood by your bedside while you slept teehee and "stablized" the anchor so it wouldn't kill you. Considering the power came from his (or Mythal's, whatever floats your boat) orb, odds are he would know how to manipulate it. 

 

So if Solas was the one to attach it to you, was it solely to keep it from Corypheus? Or perhaps he was thinking long run in how he would be able to use you for his own plan, if retrieving the orb itself failed.

 

I don't know where I'm going with this, but someone care to discuss this? Tear my theory apart maybe? Since I'm not too knowledgable about a lot of lore at this point.


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Well, my Lavellan is a bit of a dumdum when it comes to such things. :blush: :lol: She never saw that coming.



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I just finished the destruction of Haven in my 2nd PT and you know the part where the inquisitor is walking through the blizzard? You can hear a wolf howling in the distance. I remember in my first pt I kept expecting to get jumped by wolves, which never happened. But now I was thinking, what if that was Fen'harel guiding the player to safety? The howling totally gets louder the closer the inquisitor gets to the camp.

 

 

This is interesting, because when Quizzy arrives, some people seem really relieved, like Cullen, as if they weren't expecting her but Solas doesn't seem even remotely surprised to see her.

 

Yes, this. My first play through those wolves terrified me. Second time through, knowing, I picked up on all of this as well.



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I stepped outside. Did you guys know there's a world outside? With other threads and posts and... people? It was a horrible experience, I shall not do that again.

 

 

So. I had this theory. And it's probably not the strongest theory...

 

So when Cory attacks Haven and has his douchey monologue with you about his plan and tries to take the anchor from you, only to find out it is permanently attached to you...what if it was Solas who attached it to you.

 

I don't know if I get it right. My Lavellan has the anchor already before even meeting Solas, get's it from touching the orb in Haven.

So I assume you mean something else but I don't quite follow.



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No, I am definitely talking about the conversation with him in Skyhold before we head out to meet Corypheus for the final time.   That is why it came as such a surprise to me because I was pretty certain it came out totally different with my romanced Lavellan.   I'll have to go back and check it out again.   

 

I have to admit that my admiration for Solas has taken something of a nosedive as a result of this latest play through because I have started to feel that he treated her really badly.    However, you can see why he wouldn't hint that he was leaving to a romanced Lavellan because right there and then she would demand answers, whereas my male Lavellan is content to say, whatever, so long as Solas sticks around until after they defeat the bad guy, which Solas assures him he will.



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Ooh! Are we close to the theory part of the cycle? Because I had a thought in the art chat today. 

What if the Void was a dwarf thing? The dwarf version of the Fade where their consciousness went to dream, but didn't have typical Fade spirits. Andruil probably could have found some crazy **** to hunt down when an ancient dwarf dreamt. Dwarves are also master craftsman, so they could have helped create her crazy armor too...

 

My second thought was: what if the Forgotten Ones were dreamer-abomination? I was doing Feynriel's quest in DA2 today, and Marethari said that most dreamers don't survive attempted takeover by demons, but the ones that do are powerful abominations. The primary elven pantheon were dreamers, along with lots of the nobility. Suppose the forgotten ones used to be powerful priests of the gods, or particularly powerful mages that became dreamer-abominations? That would command enough respect to be given a god-like title, and have them be in conflict with the pantheon. The only thing more powerful than themselves are the actual gods, who may or may not be "something more" than super powerful mages or spirits.

 

For the first point, that would make Forgotten Ones dwarves too. Or at least, their masters. Which would make sense if we're going with the Forgotten Ones = Old Gods theory. Maybe it was the dwarves themselves who built the Forgotten Ones' prison once they were sundered from their control. It would even match with Thedas's Tolkienesque vibe with the feud between dwarves and elves. That would at least not make everything about elves, which I like, though that would also mean the Forgotten Ones weren't elves, so I don't know whether I would prefer this to be true or not.

 

As to the Forgotten Ones = Dreamer abominations & High Priests, this can be supported by the writings in Mythal's temple about someone taking a god's form without permission. Though if this were the case, I have to wonder about the High Priest in Dirthamen's temple. How come he isn't one of the Forgotten Ones, if we go by this theory? And how does the Void come into this, because even demons, who're needed for there to be abominations, come from the Fade?


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I stepped outside. Did you guys know there's a world outside? With other threads and posts and... people? It was a horrible experience, I shall not do that again.

 

 

 

I don't know if I get it right. My Lavellan has the anchor already before even meeting Solas, get's it from touching the orb in Haven.

So I assume you mean something else but I don't quite follow.

 

So you already have the anchor, and Solas pretends like he doesn't know what it is. But clearly he does since he somehow knows how to "stabilize" it to keep it from killing you. So my question is did Solas' studying/stabilizing process make it permanent, since Cory somehow seemed baffled that it was attached to you like it was, even after claiming that he made the anchor himself. 


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No, I am definitely talking about the conversation with him in Skyhold before we head out to meet Corypheus for the final time.   That is why it came as such a surprise to me because I was pretty certain it came out totally different with my romanced Lavellan.   I'll have to go back and check it out again.   

 

I have to admit that my admiration for Solas has taken something of a nosedive as a result of this latest play through because I have started to feel that he treated her really badly.    However, you can see why he wouldn't hint that he was leaving to a romanced Lavellan because right there and then she would demand answers, whereas my male Lavellan is content to say, whatever, so long as Solas sticks around until after they defeat the bad guy, which Solas assures him he will.

 

So this here:

 

 

This person didn't take him though to the well... sinful. Anyway, I watched the romance, but I missed this. I assumed it was the same for everyone.



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I stepped outside. Did you guys know there's a world outside? With other threads and posts and... people? It was a horrible experience, I shall not do that again.

 

Me trying to be parts of other threads/posts:

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Yeah, out there be monsters.


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Aha, no problem :lol: Cass was busy trying to be your bff. I actually really like the fem quizzy and Cass relationship. The... what's the opposite of bro?

 

Chickmance?

 

I love the Cass/Quizzie femance™. Cass is another amazing character. I still wanted to bite her head off when she distracted me from the last conversation with Solas. 



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So you already have the anchor, and Solas pretends like he doesn't know what it is. But clearly he does since he somehow knows how to "stabilize" it to keep it from killing you. So my question is did Solas' studying/stabilizing process make it permanent, since Cory somehow seemed baffled that it was attached to you like it was, even after claiming that he made the anchor himself. 

 

Possible but I assume not. I guess that if he could take it from Lavellan he would. Corypheus tried to and Solas wanted the same thing as Corypheus, basically. I am sure if he could have taken it we would have. But he could not so he had to stick around.

Just my guess though.


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No, I am definitely talking about the conversation with him in Skyhold before we head out to meet Corypheus for the final time.   That is why it came as such a surprise to me because I was pretty certain it came out totally different with my romanced Lavellan.   I'll have to go back and check it out again.   

 

I have to admit that my admiration for Solas has taken something of a nosedive as a result of this latest play through because I have started to feel that he treated her really badly.    However, you can see why he wouldn't hint that he was leaving to a romanced Lavellan because right there and then she would demand answers, whereas my male Lavellan is content to say, whatever, so long as Solas sticks around until after they defeat the bad guy, which Solas assures him he will.

 

To be fair, I believe the conversation is the same. He's melancholic and maybe angry after the temple of mythal, it's just that a romanced-Lavellan can't ask if he's leaving. She just says he's being grim and fatalistic to get her into bed... lol. Or that they'll get to the end together.

So he says the same things to romanced and non-romanced inquisitors, he didn't treat Lavellan badly (not in that moment, at least). The only thing that changes is the way you answer, but that's not his "fault".



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No, I am definitely talking about the conversation with him in Skyhold before we head out to meet Corypheus for the final time.   That is why it came as such a surprise to me because I was pretty certain it came out totally different with my romanced Lavellan.   I'll have to go back and check it out again.   
 
I have to admit that my admiration for Solas has taken something of a nosedive as a result of this latest play through because I have started to feel that he treated her really badly.    However, you can see why he wouldn't hint that he was leaving to a romanced Lavellan because right there and then she would demand answers, whereas my male Lavellan is content to say, whatever, so long as Solas sticks around until after they defeat the bad guy, which Solas assures him he will.

He does treat her really badly. That breakup scene is extremely cruel, no matter which way you went on the vallaslin, which is why i like that PW had Cole comment on that as the thing that Lavellan gets hung up on. However even a romanced Lavellan can tell Solas that he sounds like he's leaving (edit: I misremembered and apparently this isn't one of the dialogue options) and him breaking it off is a pretty big indication he's not going to stick around, too. The reason I don't hate Solas for being deceptive and losing his courage in the end is that IMO he believes what he's doing is for the better.
 

So you already have the anchor, and Solas pretends like he doesn't know what it is. But clearly he does since he somehow knows how to "stabilize" it to keep it from killing you. So my question is did Solas' studying/stabilizing process make it permanent, since Cory somehow seemed baffled that it was attached to you like it was, even after claiming that he made the anchor himself.

Solas is obviously holding back what he knows about where the mark came from, but I don't think he truly knows what the mark is, either. Corypheus created that spell, and Solas is clearly dismayed that he was able to use the power of the orb that way. The thing I think about is Solas' description of elven magic- that spells could take years to complete, and that by the time they were complete, they'd mix with new magic in unexpected ways. He says this in a "it was grand" kind of way, but I think that's what happened with the orb, which is grand in a "destroy everything" kind of way.

I do think you could be right that the permanence of the mark might be a result of Solas trying to stabilize it in the Herald. I like that idea, since it must have been very tempting for Solas to try to do what Corypheus attempted- rip it out of the Herald even if it killed her in the process.


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So this here:

 

 

This person didn't take him though to the well... sinful. Anyway, I watched the romance, but I missed this. I assumed it was the same for everyone.

 

He doesn't say goodbye to a romanced Lavellan after the Temple because at that point, he isn't planning on leaving. As Weekes said in an interview, right up until Solas chickens out with the vallaslin, he's planning on telling her the truth and staying. Then after the breakup, he still doesn't say goodbye maybe because he still wants to tell her the truth after retrieving the orb, or he knows saying goodbye at that point would prompt Lavellan to bludgeon him with questions.

 

He still treats Lavellan awfully, but he doesn't lead her on.


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Oh my xD

Edit: double top Solas!

What Lavellan is really thinking:
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omg, this is so true. When did angry elf start turning me on? I never got like this watching The Hobbit and it's full of angry elves!!



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he didn't treat Lavellan badly. The only thing that changes is the way you answer, but that's not his "fault".

Oh come on!

"I want to show you how I feel for you... You are so beautiful... Alright, that's it. See you around."

If that's not badly I don't know what. He should have cut all the clutter and just ended it right away.

There's about a hundred ways to end a relationship and this is probably the meanest way to do it.


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Oh come on!

"I want to show you how I feel for you... You are so beautiful... Alright, that's it. See you around."

If that's not badly I don't know what. He should have cut all the clutter and just ended it right away.

There's about a hundred ways to end a relationship and this is probably the meanest way to do it.

 

That's later. I meant in that moment, when they talk about the events at the temple. Edited the post for clarity.

I know that Solas can be an ass, even if I know he does it because he thinks it's the right thing to do.



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So. I had this theory. And it's probably not the strongest theory...

 

So when Cory attacks Haven and has his douchey monologue with you about his plan and tries to take the anchor from you, only to find out it is permanently attached to you...what if it was Solas who attached it to you.

 

"I do not know how you survived, but what marks you as 'touched', what you flail at rifts, I crafted to assault the very heavens."

 

Since Cory claims that he "made" the anchor, wouldn't he have known it was permanent? Could Solas have been the one to have somehow made it attached to you? Since he claims to have stood by your bedside while you slept teehee and "stablized" the anchor so it wouldn't kill you. Considering the power came from his (or Mythal's, whatever floats your boat) orb, odds are he would know how to manipulate it. 

 

So if Solas was the one to attach it to you, was it solely to keep it from Corypheus? Or perhaps he was thinking long run in how he would be able to use you for his own plan, if retrieving the orb itself failed.

 

I don't know where I'm going with this, but someone care to discuss this? Tear my theory apart maybe? Since I'm not too knowledgable about a lot of lore at this point.

 

I took this as Cory just appropriating the orb. He wants to be a god after all. Or maybe he's referring to the ritual the Inquisitor interrupts at the start.

 

But as to Solas binding it to you... Yes I can see this being the case. Maybe the only way to stabilize the Anchor is to bind it to you, and that's where the weird spirit conversation at the balcony comes in.

 

I can get behind this if this was done for the Inquisitor's safety, but if it's just Solas making you a backup plan or just to keep the power from Corypheus, it doesn't make sense. He would have retrieved the Anchor after the orb's destruction then, even if only from Inquisitors he didn't like.

 

Edit: Siha makes a good point though. If the Anchor wasn't permanent from the start, Solas would have just taken it and run.



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Oh come on!

"I want to show you how I feel for you... You are so beautiful... Alright, that's it. See you around."

If that's not badly I don't know what. He should have cut all the clutter and just ended it right away.

There's about a hundred ways to end a relationship and this is probably the meanest way to do it.

 

It could have been in that moment that he realized telling Lavellan the truth, he would have had to tell her the whole truth, including the part of him being Fen'Harel (and depending on how Dalish you are, probably not the thing you wanna hear) and the fact that he had given the orb to corypheus...which would also not likely fly with her. 

 

So he chickened out, cause it probably would have hurt less to not know. Ignorance is bliss.



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Oh come on!

"I want to show you how I feel for you... You are so beautiful... Alright, that's it. See you around."

If that's not badly I don't know what. He should have cut all the clutter and just ended it right away.

There's about a hundred ways to end a relationship and this is probably the meanest way to do it.

Someone post that tumblr meme where all the guys give their last comments, and Solas is like:

 

Lol, Bye! And by the way, Dalish suck.

 

ROFL


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So he chickened out, cause it probably would have hurt less to not know. Ignorance is bliss.

 

You may disregard the lyrics and only see the title (but it's too good a song to only state the title as an answer).

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Maybe he is simply a coward but in that case he's just not worth my previous appreciation of his character.


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Speaking of Lavellan finding out Solas's Fen'Harel identity prematurely, there's this really great fanfic called "Tranquility" by geekyjez exploring that at the moment.

 

Here's the link and summary:

 

http://archiveofouro...hapters/6882176

(Solas x Lavellan) AU Prompt fic. Solas and Isii are captured by Templars. Isii is forced to watch as they try to perform the Rite of Tranquility on him. But the Rite doesn’t go as planned when you perform it on a god…


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would anyone be kind enough to tell me how to post pictures???