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Best couch reference I've ever seen.

Also... totally up for drawing?

i'm attempting to draw at the moment...not turning out too well. 

 

Share your secrets with me...



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I'm pretty sure I draw a reference of the sofa in Solas' room..

Here it is:

Based on this.

Rabbit, how does your google thinger work. I'm sitting here all alone and it's telling me it's off air. I want to do friendship draw times but I'm lost.



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Best couch reference I've ever seen.

Also... totally up for drawing?

Ok, but I'll be doing my homework if that's ok. give me 10 minutes. It'll be the link on my signature.



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I think the whole point of the scene where Morrigan chooses her son over greater power is to show that she isn't likely to become a villain. 

 

I'm guessing our archvillain will be whatever force is in command of the blight, either directly or indirectly. 


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Rabbit, how does your google thinger work. I'm sitting here all alone and it's telling me it's off air. I want to do friendship draw times but I'm lost.

I deleted the stream so yoursecrets are safe after 24 hours. :3


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I'm with @Addai.  I have mixed feelings about her being a villain mostly because I love her character.  I think if she was she would be in the same way Solas may be...not really a villain but someone so hell bent on achieving their goals they are willing to go through an enormous amount to get there. So if you peal away the horror they may cause, you can see WHY it may be a good thing.    Frankly though, beyond Morrigan preserving ancient power, she doesn't really seem to have any other goals(aside from taking care of Kieren depending on world states).  She's not really interested in using the power nor looking for acclaim.   

 

But now she has Mythal's divinity ... whatever that may be.  Although I do wonder how much of Mythal's personality or will is actually left.  Or how it will affect her.  She's not quite as cunning or behind the scenes as Flemeth was but then Flemeth had a lot of time to set things up.

 

Btw, I love Morrigan, she was totally like a sister to my warden.  And she's a great character.  I don't particularly *want* her to be a villain or antagonist.  I just think she has the potential to be a great one.



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I'm with @Addai.  I have mixed feelings about her being a villain mostly because I love her character.  I think if she was she would be in the same way Solas may be...not really a villain but someone so hell bent on achieving their goals they are willing to go through an enormous amount to get there. So if you peal away the horror they may cause, you can see WHY it may be a good thing.    Frankly though, beyond Morrigan preserving ancient power, she doesn't really seem to have any other goals(aside from taking care of Kieren depending on world states).  She's not really interested in using the power nor looking for acclaim.   

This, so much. Morrigan has a genuine sense of sadness and wonder when she talks to you about preserving what was lost at the Temple. When she says the world is in danger of growing mundane and losing all its magic, from elves to dragons, it's easy to trust in that. I love that she's so fascinated by lost knowledge--it's actually pretty cute to see her excited about what she gains from the Well should you allow her to drink.

Ugh, but all this just makes me think of those either or choices we get in these games so often, like The Mother or Architect, for instance. If we had to choose between Morrigan and Solas in a similar way.  :pinched: Though in this case, it'd be a much, much more difficult choice as both are wonderful characters.


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I think the whole point of the scene where Morrigan chooses her son over greater power is to show that she isn't likely to become a villain. 

 

I'm guessing our archvillain will be whatever force is in command of the blight, either directly or indirectly. 

 

That's only if she has a son.  Which she doesn't always.  At the end of it though, yes I want to face off with whoever created or commands the Blight.  I imagine in that scenario Solas and Morrigan would probably be our two most powerful allies.


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NEW VIDEO UP!!!


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Loved it!!


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To be honest, what I see MOST likely is Morrigan and Solas joining forces in some way. She wants to preserve ancient power and if she's been given Mythal's godhood... that's probably going to continue in a BIG way. He likely wants to bring that ancient power back. Also, in a BIG way.

 

Kinda seems like they'd be on the same side, at least for a good portion of their goals. They may have different methods or opinions, but I think they definitely could be convinced to work together if the right solution was found.

 

I agree.

 

Given Morrigan's unique position, knowledge, abilities, I see her playing a role in the future alongside Solas' plans.  I think the Well will play a part, and therefore whoever drank from it, and then there's the mark, which I believe to be essential in whatever is to pass.  It's a deliciously sexy puzzle that I can't wait to put together.

 

'Cuz that's how I party.   :wizard:



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To be honest, what I see MOST likely is Morrigan and Solas joining forces in some way. She wants to preserve ancient power and if she's been given Mythal's godhood... that's probably going to continue in a BIG way. He likely wants to bring that ancient power back. Also, in a BIG way.

 

Kinda seems like they'd be on the same side, at least for a good portion of their goals. They may have different methods or opinions, but I think they definitely could be convinced to work together if the right solution was found.

Mmm maybe another dark ritual, hmmm?

 

Hehehe.


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But now she has Mythal's divinity ... whatever that may be.  Although I do wonder how much of Mythal's personality or will is actually left.  Or how it will affect her.  She's not quite as cunning or behind the scenes as Flemeth was but then Flemeth had a lot of time to set things up.

 

Btw, I love Morrigan, she was totally like a sister to my warden.  And she's a great character.  I don't particularly *want* her to be a villain or antagonist.  I just think she has the potential to be a great one.

Yeah...and that's where I'm confused as well.  Regarding the divinity --- has she gotten it yet or did Mythal just store it for her use?  I don't know...is the divinity, immortality?  If so then why would Flemeth need to raise all those daughters.  Maybe "divinity" means Mythal's will. Mythal's control of the well and control of that ancient knowledge...and abelas' ancient fitness routine.  (Mostly just talking to myself and musing).  All these questions and more next time on Dragon Age!

 

See and I don't think she'd make a great villain...just a really broken one.  Sort of like how Solas could/may/will be.  There would be lots of tears, pity, and just 'why are you making me do this bioware!!!???'  If she was to go all evil there would have be such a drastic personality shift that it wouldn't even be Morrigan anymore or at least not the one we know and love.  I think my judgement may be clouded though because I played on a Kieren playthrough and as Mims says, she is willing to give up anything to protect her son. She wants to give him a normal and loving life or in her eyes the opposite of what Flemeth gave her(ughh...knife to the heart).



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Mmm maybe another dark ritual, hmmm?

 

Hehehe.

 

Lol... 

Spoiler

 

...I couldn't help myself.  :lol:


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Lol... 

Spoiler

 

...I couldn't help myself.  :lol:

 

 

XDDDD I would. AROOOOOOoooooo!


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To be honest, what I see MOST likely is Morrigan and Solas joining forces in some way. She wants to preserve ancient power and if she's been given Mythal's godhood... that's probably going to continue in a BIG way. He likely wants to bring that ancient power back. Also, in a BIG way.

 

Kinda seems like they'd be on the same side, at least for a good portion of their goals. They may have different methods or opinions, but I think they definitely could be convinced to work together if the right solution was found.

This.  All this.  Buddy adventures with grumpy Morrigan and Solas.  For whatever reason when I thought of them going on adventures together "Too many cooks" popped in my head and I just have images mugging them for the camera 90 sit-com style. 


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This.  All this.  Buddy adventures with grumpy Morrigan and Solas.  For whatever reason when I thought of them going on adventures together "Too many cooks" popped in my head and I just have images mugging them for the camera 90 sit-com style. 

 

Oh man, I would love a DA version of too many cooks. When we get to DA5, someone please make this. 



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Yeah...and that's where I'm confused as well.  Regarding the divinity --- has she gotten it yet or did Mythal just store it for her use?  I don't know...is the divinity, immortality?  If so then why would Flemeth need to raise all those daughters.  Maybe "divinity" means Mythal's will. Mythal's control of the well and control of that ancient knowledge...and abelas' ancient fitness routine.  (Mostly just talking to myself and musing).  All these questions and more next time on Dragon Age!

 

See and I don't think she'd make a great villain...just a really broken one.  Sort of like how Solas could/may/will be.  There would be lots of tears, pity, and just 'why are you making me do this bioware!!!???'  If she was to go all evil there would have be such a drastic personality shift that it wouldn't even be Morrigan anymore or at least not the one we know and love.  I think my judgement may be clouded though because I played on a Kieren playthrough and as Mims says, she is willing to give up anything to protect her son. She wants to give him a normal and loving life or in her eyes the opposite of what Flemeth gave her(ughh...knife to the heart).

 

Isn't that what the writers like to do though?  lol

 

I think a Morrigan without Kieran has more potential to become an antagonist (I hesitate to use the word villain really) than a Morrigan with Kieran.  And she doesn't need to go all evil to be an antagonist.  Despite the fact that I do not like the man, Logain wasn't an evil man and he was definitely opposed to the warden in DAO.  But for now we just don't know enough about Morrigan's plans with or without Mythal's divinity/influence to make any calls really.  Just like with Solas.


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Seeing all these posts about Morrigan and Solas together, I can't help but wondering though, if Morrigan has Kieran and has not drank from the Well, why would she want to mix up in all these at all? Mythal has already "combined" herself with Solas, so Flameth is essentially dead. This may as well cut the last tide between Morrigan and the Elven Gods business, unless, of course, if she wants to get involved. But since she has Kieran and she wants to be the loving mother who can provide a normal life for her son, I don't think she will put her love for ancient knowledge/power before her role as a mother.

 

On the other hand, for a Lavellan who drank from the Well, she has given a piece of herself/her soul to Mythal, and Mythal has combined with Solas, wouldn't that means she has bound herself eternally to Solas already? If Solas really wants a powerful ally to execute his grand plan, who could have been a better choice than the inquisitor? Any knowledge Lavellan lacks (compare to Morrigan) is more than made up for with the knowledge of the Well. Even if she does not understand all of it, Solas could always to explain/teach her Elvish etc. Plus, where would Morrigan get the influence Lavellan has to carry out plans in the mortal world?

 

There is one more problem. Seeing how Mythal instantly knows that somebody is drinking from it, and seeing how she told the inquisitor or Morrigan (depends on who drank from the Well) "you should know who I really am because you drank from the well", I would inferred that the connection between the Well and Mythal goes both way. If that is the case, would it made searching for Solas extremely easy? Maybe Lavellen could just trying to "feel" him..........  



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Seeing all these posts about Morrigan and Solas together, I can't help but wondering though, if Morrigan has Kieran and has not drank from the Well, why would she want to mix up in all these at all? Mythal has already "combined" herself with Solas, so Flameth is essentially dead. This may as well cut the last tide between Morrigan and the Elven Gods business, unless, of course, if she wants to get involved. But since she has Kieran and she wants to be the loving mother who can provide a normal life for her son, I don't think she will put her love for ancient knowledge/power before her role as a mother.

 

On the other hand, for a Lavellan who drank from the Well, she has given a piece of herself/her soul to Mythal, and Mythal has combined with Solas, wouldn't that means she has bound herself eternally to Solas already? If Solas really wants a powerful ally to execute his grand plan, who could have been a better choice than the inquisitor? Any knowledge Lavellan lacks (compare to Morrigan) is more than made up for with the knowledge of the Well. Even if she does not understand all of it, Solas could always to explain/teach her Elvish etc. Plus, where would Morrigan get the influence Lavellan has to carry out plans in the mortal world?

 

There is one more problem. Seeing how Mythal instantly knows that somebody is drinking from it, and seeing how she told the inquisitor or Morrigan (depends on who drank from the Well) "you should know who I really am because you drank from the well", I would inferred that the connection between the Well and Mythal goes both way. If that is the case, would it made searching for Solas extremely easy? Maybe Lavellen could just trying to "feel" him..........  

 

If you take the dev notes at face value, Flemeth gave her power to Solas but her "divinity" to Morrigan.  Whatever that means.  We're not sure.  And those are just the dev notes explaining the final scene of the game which could change in the future.  So, whether Morrigan wants to or not she may not have a choice but to get involved.

 

Also, the connection may not go both ways.  Flemeth was able to control the person who drank from the Well but that person didn't know why until Flemeth pointed out, hey you drank from the Well take a guess and btw ask the voices if it's true.  Also the voices were the priests of Mythal who may not have much connection to Fen'Harel.

 

We're also not sure what happens with this control thing.  If you're bound to the will of Mythal and Mythal essentially no longer exists (which we're not sure of) then whoever drank from the Well may not be under anyone's control anymore.



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We're also not sure what happens with this control thing.  If you're bound to the will of Mythal and Mythal essentially no longer exists (which we're not sure of) then whoever drank from the Well may not be under anyone's control anymore.

 

> a thousand years worth of priest spirits being bound only to the inquisitor now? That's kind of awesome~ lol

 

 

If you take the dev notes at face value, Flemeth gave her power to Solas but her "divinity" to Morrigan.  

 

I think Flameth was not too bad a mother after all, Morrigan is so cynical towards her.........now I feel bad about trying to kill Flameth for Morrigan in DAO........


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What is one super disgustingly sweet  Solas x Lavellan scenario / fanart you guys would like to see?

I want a cheesy Hollywood-style sweep-em-off-their-feet reunion kiss in front of the entire party.

 

Possibly with Sera gagging loudly in the background and Varric shushing her.

 

Though actually, I've been trying to imagine how a reunion might go for a while now. I really hope you get the chance to mostly piece together Solas's identity on your own (more elven ruins exploration!), but also for him to choose to tell you of his own accord. But I really have no idea what's going to happen.

 

Also, who else is looking forward to the World of Thedas Volume 2? It comes out in May, I think, and apparently it's even bigger than the first one!


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> a thousand years worth of priest spirits being bound only to the inquisitor now? That's kind of awesome~ lol

 

 

 

I think Flameth was not too bad a mother after all, Morrigan is so cynical towards her.........now I feel bad about trying to kill Flameth for Morrigan in DAO........

That's the tragedy of those two.  I don't think Flemeth was a bad mother either, but Morrigan resents her enormously. Resents her for keeping her out of society and I think fears that Flemeth never truly loved her...just raised and groomed Morrigan to be another vessel.  Morrigan is someone that wants to love and be loved but puts up so many barriers struggles to understand why someone may care for her(as a friend and as a lover). (I'm repeating a previous post but it's like 200 pages back)