In real life, pulling a punch would get me wrecked. I'm only about 5'1".
In games, I suppose I just don't tend to make characters who would use their fists. My Lavellan has a pretty bad temper, but if you got her mad to the point that she'd throw a punch, burninating is much more satisfying. Once she commits to violence, she goes all in.
I think too much about it. It bothers me that the other characters rarely fight back. I might be more open to it if you could just brawl with people.
She did. It was just a circle with all our theories on it. Frankly it could have just been a giant singular color pie chart that said "THEORIES". I loved it Ave, your charts are great, I was more amused at the visual reminder of how ridiculous our talks get on here.
There is a cycle to our discussions though. We go from Solas Character Talk, to talk about what he's up to, to talk of Flemeth and the nature of the gods, then the blight/Grey Wardens, then solas again.
I made a chart for the cycles too. 
I've been looking at Frederic's war table mission on investigating dragons, and now I'm thinking it's not a coincidence that Emprise du Lion was Imshael's chosen ground for growing red lyrium. Aside from Suledin Keep being a sweet fortress, Emprise's also the only area where there's a dragon breeding ground. According to the war table mission, dragons are resistant to the Blight, and yet, they still avoid red lyrium. Why?
Theory: It's the combination of blight + lyrium that can corrupt a high dragon, possibly even turning it into an arch demon.
Edit: Maybe the primeval thaig in DA2 was where one of the arch demons resided. And if Imshael's following the orders of whoever's using the Blight, then it makes sense he'll want to corrupt some high dragons
The fluff is death to feels!
Oh, I thought that was just for the sad. Though I guess there's sweet death too
Theory: It's the combination of blight + lyrium that can corrupt a high dragon, possibly even turning it into an arch demon.
Hmmm. But Old Gods aren't High Dragons. They just look like them.
Though, that might be how Cory created his false Archdemon.
Are Old Gods resistant to the taint in the same way as dragons are?
In real life, pulling a punch would get me wrecked. I'm only about 5'1".
In games, I suppose I just don't tend to make characters who would use their fists. My Lavellan has a pretty bad temper, but if you got her mad to the point that she'd throw a punch, burninating is much more satisfying. Once she commits to violence, she goes all in.
I think too much about it. It bothers me that the other characters rarely fight back. I might be more open to it if you could just brawl with people.
Laughing because I'm just thinking about brawling with Solas. Would have gone full ******* route for that.
In real life, pulling a punch would get me wrecked. I'm only about 5'1".
In games, I suppose I just don't tend to make characters who would use their fists. My Lavellan has a pretty bad temper, but if you got her mad to the point that she'd throw a punch, burninating is much more satisfying. Once she commits to violence, she goes all in.
I think too much about it. It bothers me that the other characters rarely fight back. I might be more open to it if you could just brawl with people.
Go for the balls, then they're on your height level 
I'm six foot four, that's my weakness even more than most guys. Luckily, guys don't think about punching guys in the balls though, so it hasn't happened too much.
But when it does.. **** me.
You could also tackle their knees.
As it relates to the game though, I honestly rarely punch people too, because it feels like a temper tantrum. You didn't win the interaction, you just made yourself look like an idiot. I've never punched anyone in anger over what they said to me, I don't instigate fights. Childish.
Laughing because I'm just thinking about brawling with Solas. Would have gone full ******* route for that.
I'm still not convinced the archdemons are actually the Tevinter Old Gods. More than dragons, yes. Gods? Eh.Hmmm. But Old Gods aren't High Dragons. They just look like them.
Though, that might be how Cory created his false Archdemon.
Are Old Gods resistant to the taint in the same way as dragons are?
Speaking of Fenris and his lyrium tattoos-
Can someone remind me: Do all of the slaves in Tevinter have them? Well, not all of the slaves, but some? And are they marked with special designs relating to who owns them or are they random?
Fenris says that soldiers like him are rare even in Tevinter. And the process to create lyrium fighters seems to be pretty unstable and dangerous.
It's likely, given what we know of Danarius, that he deliberately used vallaslin-like desgins on Fenris to mock the Dalish.
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Morning. Bah . I've been up hours now. I'm at lunch!
Perks of being a west coaster *flashes bad white girl west side signs*
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Hmmm. But Old Gods aren't High Dragons. They just look like them.
Though, that might be how Cory created his false Archdemon.
Are Old Gods resistant to the taint in the same way as dragons are?
I'm still not sure Old Gods actually are archdemons. It's not like anybody's stopped to ask. Once an archdemon comes up, all you can do's kill it.
Though there's Flemeth wanting the archdemon's soul, so I don't know.
The common mindset in Thedas seems to be that it's only when darkspawn reach them that Old Gods become corrupted. But that's not confirmed as true.
I'm still not convinced the archdemons are actually the Tevinter Old Gods. More than dragons, yes. Gods? Eh.
Well, it all depends on your definition of "god" again. I don't think of them as deities, per se. But they definitely weren't just dragons. So "Old Gods" seems as good a name as any.
Also, I've been reading Patrick Weekes' "The Palace Job" and it's actually really good! The book nurtures this wonderful sense of camaraderie between its main cast. It's making me kind of hope for a "power of friendship"-type ending for a Wolf Hunt DLC. I want the companions to have the chance to react to whatever Solas is up to. I mean, some of them (like Cole and Cass and Bull) seemed to be close to him. It'd be nice to see them welcoming him back (or not, depending on the situation).
And apparently, Gaider wrote an essay about the Chantry, the Old Gods, and the Elven Pantheon before DA:I's release:
The cult of the Old Gods (I don't call it "the Tevinter religion" mainly because that, to me, speaks of the Imperial Chantry -- which is based in today's Tevinter Imperium) didn't contradict the existence of the Maker. Quite the opposite. The people of ancient Tevinter were aware of the existence of the Golden City and ascribed to "the Maker" (though this Creator was not called this until the appearance of the Chantry) the creation of the world. The Old Gods were not creators, though they were supposedly also not created. The Old Gods were outside of the Creator's Plan and showed up to whisper to mankind and teach them magic. According to the Chantry, they turned mankind away from their regard for a remote Creator (who ruled remotely and never interacted with his own creations) and that this is what made the Creator abandon the Golden City... though there is argument that the cult believed the Creator had abandoned it long before and that they were adrift, rescued by the Old Gods. Modern sages say that this is attempt to explain the hardships that the early human civilizations faced, and not evidence of the Maker actually being absent.
So when Andraste showed up much, much later, she was advocating a return to the "rightful" worship of the Maker... it was not a belief that came out of nowhere.
As for the elves, their understanding of their own religion is incomplete. The whole truth was lost along with Arlathan and their immortality -- much of their lore was kept by a tradition of apprenticeship, handed down from the knowledgeable to the young, and this relied on the fact that the knowledgeable were eternal. Slaves also had less opportunity to spread their lore, so the sudden aging of the knowledgeable meant that much of this information was simply gone after several generations. This, of course, is their belief: the ancient Imperium maintained that the elves were never immortal to begin with, and that their lore was lost simply because the Imperium forbade its teaching.
Even so, the ancient elves did write things down, and so some scraps have been recovered. Thus the Dalish have slowly reassembled a religion from those pieces of lore, though how complete it is cannot be known. Even so, a few things are factual. For one, the original elven religion predates the cult of the Old Gods by a long time. Could the Old Gods have been based on the elven gods? Possibly, but there's nothing to suggest the elven gods were ever dragons, and certainly the contempt the Imperium held for elven culture makes it unlikely that they would think elven gods were worth worshipping. Consider also that it was the Old Gods that taught humanity its magic and encouraged them to destroy Arlathan -- why would elven gods do this? One could point to the Forgotten Ones (look at the codex entry on Fen'Harel for their mention) and suggest that they had reason for vengeance, though that would probably be against Fen'Harel and their good brethren and not against the elven people themselves, no? Still, all of that depends on how much of the knowledge given by Dalish tales is complete.
In terms of the elven religion's view of the Maker (or lack thereof), it might be interesting to point out that the elven creation myth doesn't stem from their gods. According to Dalish understanding, Elgar'nan and Mythal, the Father and the Mother, did not create the world. They were bornof the world. The world was always there, and while it doesn't indicate the presence of a single creator that made the world it also doesn't necessarily contradict it.
The modern Chantry, however, does say that all these other gods are false. It doesn't say they never existed (though the elven legends are dismissed as just that, for the most part, but that's a carry-over of Imperial belief), but merely suggests that the Maker was long ago forgotten and that He is the only god that is worthy of true worship. The fact that His creations turned away from Him is shameful, and it is only by proving our worth to Him once again that the world will become the paradise He intended.
All of this is, of course, open to interpretation. That's part of the point of faith, if you ask me. Were some god to appear on earth and tell everyone How It Really Is that would destroy the very idea of faith -- though at that point one would have to ask: is such a being really a god? What is a god? What ideas are really worth worship? To me, that's the notion that's worth exploring. Beyond that, all conjecture is welcome.
http://forum.bioware...uestions/page-3
I'm still not sure Old Gods actually are archdemons. It's not like anybody's stopped to ask. Once an archdemon comes up, all you can do's kill it.
Though there's Flemeth wanting the archdemon's soul, so I don't know.
The common mindset in Thedas seems to be that it's only when darkspawn reach them that Old Gods become corrupted. But that's not confirmed as true.
Well the Archdemons can only be killed by a Grey Warden because of the whole soul collision thing. Else they'll just body hop into the nearest darkspawn. And body hopping is a power we've only seen in special beings like Cory and Flemeth. Plus, there was something very special about Urthemiel's soul, judging from Kieran.
Well the Archdemons can only be killed by a Grey Warden because of the whole soul collision thing. Else they'll just body hop into the nearest darkspawn. And body hopping is a power we've only seen in special beings like Cory and Flemeth. Plus, there was something very special about Urthemiel's soul, judging from Kieran.
Urthemiel... I wonder if Urthemiel's special from the previous Archdemons Thedas has seen. Unlike the others after all, Urthemiel was awakened by a conscious darkspawn emmisary.
And for an Old God, Urthemiel's pretty ok while sharing Kieran's body. The kid gets nightmares, but so did Andraste, and the OGS doesn't try to overtake or destroy his soul or anything
Urthemiel... I wonder if Urthemiel's special from the previous Archdemons Thedas has seen. Unlike the others after all, Urthemiel was awakened by a conscious darkspawn emmisary.
And for and Old God, Urthemiel's pretty ok while sharing Kieran's body. The kid gets nightmares, but the OGS doesn't try to overtake or destroy his soul or anything
I think the idea of the ritual is to receive the soul untainted, so minus any real will of its own. I think a lack of will is the only reason two souls could share a body in the first place. It's subdued, like it was when it was asleep, absent the taint.
And urthemiel was special alright... especially pathetic. 0/10 lamest old god ever.
And apparently, Gaider wrote an essay about the Chantry, the Old Gods, and the Elven Pantheon before DA:I's release:
http://forum.bioware...uestions/page-3
And apparently, Gaider wrote an essay about the Chantry, the Old Gods, and the Elven Pantheon before DA:I's release:
Ooooooh, this is wonderful. This bit in particular piqued my interest.
As for the elves, their understanding of their own religion is incomplete. The whole truth was lost along with Arlathan and their immortality -- much of their lore was kept by a tradition of apprenticeship, handed down from the knowledgeable to the young, and this relied on the fact that the knowledgeable were eternal. Slaves also had less opportunity to spread their lore, so the sudden aging of the knowledgeable meant that much of this information was simply gone after several generations. This, of course, is their belief: the ancient Imperium maintained that the elves were never immortal to begin with, and that their lore was lost simply because the Imperium forbade its teaching.
This implies that the knowledgeable were the only ones who were immortal, which fits in with what we know of Uthenera.
Uthenera (literally "long sleep" or "endless dream") is a slumber-like state which elders of the ancient elvesvoluntary entered when they became weary of life and memories. While their bodies would remain in the mortal realm, their spirits would cross the Veil and wander the shifting paths of the Beyond, accompanied by two children of Mythal - Falon'Din and his twin brother Dirthamen This state did not necessarily equal death, as some would return after centuries of sleep and share the secrets of dreams with the People. Yet many would never wake up: their bodies would deteriorate and they would in fact die.
I've been trying to reconcile an entire society of immortals with what we know of ancient Arlathan. The slaves couldn't have been immortal, could they? Perhaps only the upper classes, the ones who could afford to be cared for in Uthenera, had access to immortality. Perhaps that's also how Solas's immortality works. After all, he's been asleep for all this time. What if he could only endure so long because he was asleep?
I think the idea of the ritual is to receive the soul untainted, so minus any real will of its own. I think a lack of will is the only reason two souls could share a body in the first place. It's subdued, like it was when it was asleep, absent the taint.
And urthemiel was special alright... especially pathetic. 0/10 lamest old god ever.
What is it about pregnancy that somehow erases the taint? I never got the impression Urthemiel's will was subdued though, more like Keiran and him are joined the way Flemeth and Mythal's joined.
At least Urthemiel was hard to beat, unlike Cory 
So what made only half the population immortal? What about the immortal elves differentiated them from the slaves? Physically, I mean.
The vallaslin
The Vallaslin stopped someone from being immortal?The vallaslin
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